this game is a must have for any Jaguar owners in terms of quality and as a collector. However, given its high price.....only hardcore jaguar fan should get it...for the same price you can get a SNES with Mario Kart and a 2nd controller..such a shame though!
The bits dont make the graphics better if the 64bit processor is only a tiny blitter chip with a 64bit buzz. Most developers programed the games in 16bit the the main processors were 32bit and not very powerfull compared to the Sega saturn or the PS1.
The Jaguar to me was the greatest consule of its generation, i bought doom wolfenstein alien vs predator, all out by the time it hit britain.
all at a staggering standard above the then snes competion.
later on i got rayman and most people not just my self rate it above the ps1 version.
sadly people want to rip it apart usually 3do fan boys, (3do is an excellent system as well) using the panther designed games like cybermorph as an argument, the poorest display of the jaguars true ablity.
@cant1rac You could have bought a PC and played the same games but better. Wold 3d and DOOM, plus all the other shooters. Duke 3d, Half Life, Quake, etc. Not on Jaguar. Oh, and PC doom has something the jag version doesn't MUSIC!!!
@HaloSpartanG13 you are obviously a retard on here to slag off the jaguar.
im not slagging off the 3do which was a very capable consule, i own one, theres not much difference between the jag and 3do release dates, depends which region your in,
and the post to my profile sell your consule
extremely immature.
i had a pc for your imformation as well.
what are you on this for just to cause trouble, post your consules shit, grow up.
ohh and i own most consules ever released in uk, im not a fan boy
@HaloSpartanG13 every consule tried to get the best port off doom everybody failed except the jaguar and playstation, i have this year given up on pc gaming, because the drm and liscensing is horrific.
and the xbox 360 not that far behind, you want to spend £35-40 quid on a new game you cant trade in with little resale value and in a few years depending on the server or the drm restriction unusable, then you really are an idiot
@HaloSpartanG13 ohh so you know dont own a physical copy and cant sell or trade what you've invested your money in... very good, i have steam as well, and it self is a form of drm
@HaloSpartanG13 im a 36 year old man, you sound like the spoiled kid.
steam has took away your right to own a product, resell it or do what you like with it.
your licesing your software not buying it, with no real legal rights.
you all so seam like a puritanical idiot citing im a superiour pc gamer.
ive been a pc gamer since 93, an atari st and amiga user as well, my first consule on my 5 birthaday in 1979 was the atari vcs, and i have owned and played everything since, im no fanboy, but you?
@HaloSpartanG13 the only thing i said was 3do fanboys like to have a very illiterate and unfair dig at the jaguar often refering to less texturing etc, but thats a sympton of the cartridge format and the n64 suffered compared with the psx as well.
i hate fanboys where ever they are, i have a 3do i like the 3do.
the worst fanboys and i own their machines as well, is the amiga, apple/mac, 3do ohh and pc and linux user which i am as well.
i like the jaguar despite it never filled its true potential
@cant1rac What about the Jag CD? The games are either FMV crap or MORE snes graphics. Truth is, the N64 used carts, and looked better then the PSX if programmed right.
@cant1rac HAHA, Keep calling me a "Jag Hater" dyslexic. Truth is, the Jaguar is a pile of shit which was poorly designed. Star fox looks better than those 3d shooters on the jag, and plays better too. Most of the games look like SNES or Super FX chip/Sega 32x games. And all the good games......are ported to other consoles.
They also decided to make dumb decisions, just watch a review of it. It sucks, stop looking through those tinted goggles.
@HaloSpartanG13 well if your talking about cybermorph, its a much more complex 3d enviroment than starfox which i own as well, in fact i have most consules.
but yeah that and club drive kasumi ninja dont look great .
if you judge on alien vs predator, rayman which most think is just better than the ps version, world tour racing battlemorph and the unreleased but avilable phaze zero (which is as good as any saturn game ive played and up there with early playstation.
@HaloSpartanG13 your judging the jaguar on the shit software that came out on it.
i could look at busby 3d on the playstaion and from that say the machine was garbage rather than look at gran turismo 2 and get a proper perspective.
thats exactly what your doing, jaguar had flaws, ataris own software release were abismal, the inital software wasnt fantastic, sadly some off the best jaguar games came out or were avilable as a demo, when it was too late, there are great games on the system as well
Fantastic games that came out for the Jaguar depending on your taste.
Rayman, Wolfenstein 3d, Doom, Alien vs Predator, World tour racing, Primal rage, Raiden, Cannon fodder, Theme park, Sensible soccer, Syndicate, Skyhammer, Soccer kid, Battlesphere, (playable demo) Phaze zero, Ultra vortek, Zero 5, Battlemorph, Powerdrive (all great for the time)
and there is crap like any system. Clubdrive, AirCars, White men cant jump.
@HaloSpartanG13 i have 2 jag cd unit and both have had the same minor fault.
its the lid catch spring is to tight, eventualy this shears the little plastic catch and the lid wont close properly.
there is actual nothing wrong with the cd unit it self, usually just the catch on the lid.
id say your the one missing out on some good and jag exclusive games like skyhammer, alien vs predator, world tour racing and battlesphere your loss through what i'd describe as a poor attitude.
@HaloSpartanG13 i really think to say this consule is shit shows a lot of immaturity every consule has faults and problems.
even the worst probably the atari 5200, still has some great games, so im no atari fan boy
the atari 5200 was poorly designed, the 7800 sound chip was awful, the xegs far too late for the market.
what gets me is people shout about the 64bit claim with out understanding a thing about bits in a graphical context and judge the jaguar on the worst of the games for it
with an interview from one of atari jaguars designers, talking about the bits question, and saying it is a full 64bit system on a full 64 bit bus, the cpu is even doubled up to give effectively 64 bit. thoughs technical facts are undeniable.
where he says it failed is why the saturn failed.
was too complex a system, difficuilt to programme for,
atari had pissed of every developer with the 7800 then dropping it instantly for the xegs
Depending on the external/internal data bus, the registers and address buses, blitters, etc. a console marketer could bend the numbers their way. At least, that's how it feels. I do remember one interview where a developer stated the Jag was "64-bit where it counted", which is possibly the best way of putting it. I couldn't tell you either way, but ultimately it didn't mean much as the "bit wars" were always more about advertisement than anything technical.
@dunnono00 its the way the games industry has been since the turbo graphx with an 8bit cpu was succesfully accepted by the industry as 16bit because where it counted the graphic chip was 16bit and the bus it operated was 16bit.
so the atari jaguar being the only consule where its questioned? is a really unjustifiable and more to do with the intrests of its competators and thous in the industry atari pissed off with the incompetance of the design and marketing of the 5200, 7800 & xegs
@dunnono00 really its nothing to do with marketing or advertising because it is technical point about the make up of any consule.
if we were to take the cpu as the gidding factor the intellvision would be considered a 16bit consule, but its graphical capablity wouldnt be much more than 4 bits, no ones ever said an intellivision is a 16bit consule.
on the other hand a turbografx is considered 16bit, because it can produce 16bit graphics through its gpu and bus even though its only an 8bit cpu
The TG-16 to this day is called 8-bit by many, and Sega even scoffed at its claims of being 16-bit, so I don't know what this "industry wide acceptance" of its bittage comes from. It was accepted as a competitor, certainly, and as a commercially viable machine in its day.
And can you describe to me what "4-bit graphics" actually is? What 8-bit graphics is? What 16-bit graphics is?
@dunnono00 there is no doubt some did question the turbo graphx at the time but nothing ive read says anything other than 16bit for the turbo graphx, the atari has a focus on its bit rating out of any resonable scale with anyother system.
and are you being funny about whats the difference between bits, or do you want a lesson from binary digit and bit set all the way up to chanels and the function of bits in gpu's, cause i can look up links if you want suggest papers on the science
Perhaps its something to do with all the "Do the Math" ads, or it's just easy to bash certain consoles, or a combination... but setting that aside for the moment...
Are you telling me you need links and papers in computer science to answer my question? Humor me a moment. I was very curious when you said the Intellivision had "4-bit" graphical capability. What are the parameters here for such graphics? Is it the color palettes? The number of sprites onscreen?
@dunnono00 no i dont need links papers or anything to answer you, i meant the intelivisions graphical potential offered little more than an atari vcs despite having a far more powerful cpu, and that its not the cpu thats the defining factor, but everyone refers to as important in refrence to the jaguar...
you want a list of the graphical capablity of an intelivision the amount of colors displayed on screen characters pixel being less compared with a typical 8 bit system or you being pretentious
If it helps you answer my question... but I'll cut to the chase:
It's hard to define "x-bit" graphics in concrete terms, isn't it? The easiest thing is to make nebulous comparisons against other systems of the same era or a later one. The generation before the NES had 8-bit CPU's for the most part. Look at how wide that spectrum of graphical capability is. What is 8-bit graphics?
Which is why I say the bit-wars was less about technical specs, and more about hype and advertising.
@dunnono00 what do you want to know about 8-bit color graphics. the 3bits red 3bits green 2bits blue in 8-bit true color graphics or is it the 256 avialble colurs and 8 bits given to each color, you see an 8-bit graphical system has to be able to display a certain amount of colors on screen to be truely 8bit, and as in the intellivisons case.
it couldnt even though it had a 16 bit chip, its true graphical output wasn't even 8 bit.
which is my whole point its technical, its not just advertising
@dunnono00 this is were you are partialy right, a number dont have and graphics unit or component so are very linited graphicaly.
with a dedicate 8-bit graphics chip or dedicated graphical 8 bit graphical component to the cpu can display up to 256. hence why an intellivision can only display a few colours with a 16bit.
but that is completely away from what i was even taking about or any relevance to 16 bit systems never mind 64 bit all of which has some dedicated gpu compotenet. so not problem
@dunnono00 its not advertising as you say, but many factors in the differences between systems, potential bottlenecks, like the low capacity but fast ram in the ps3, each system has them, its the development time and work arounds, that can make huge differences, look at early c64 games, blocky and crude. there was a memory problem that ment a spectrum 48k could address more memory than a 64k commadore, but work arounds were found, programming impoved, then the c64 had probably the best games
@dunnono00 obviously companies will hype there own product and are prone to a little exageration, but the technical potential is there on paper, even if through programming, developer support, vendor support, demand, system bugs or bottlenecks hamper that possiblity in reality.
Atari Jaguar is a consule, that had the potential, and games like phaze zero show it was possible to meet that potential, but the above problems did impact on it's potential to deliver in its short life span
Well, as you've found, you can't just put out the definition for different sets of color palettes and hope it translates to consoles. I was merely illustrating that x-bit graphics is defined less than distinctly in solid technical terms. Perhaps I went off-track just a bit, but I wanted to show how much of what we accepted as common wisdom back in the day really can be disputed or dissected or even attributed to marketing.
@dunnono00 i dont accept the marketing argument, but i do get what your on about.
companies will be liberal in claiming what their machines can do.
Zx Spectrum for example had no dedicated x-bit gpu, which is why its graphical ablity was poor compared with a c64 or msx that did have a gpu component in 8 bits.
we have the intellivision that had no true gpu component and despite a 16 bit processor could'nt process any more colors on screen than an atari vcs with an inferiour cpu.
@cant1rac another critical mistake (and sega made it as well) was including a lower level system chip of a 68xxxx motarola family to give legacy support to try and encourage developer support.
these were used in some case to develop the base software that game development would start then scaled up, but resulted in not just inferiour software on the jaguar, but i have examples for my saturn as well.
jaguar suffered badly from very poor developer support from over a decade of atari incompetence
@dunnono00 when you see a x-bit machine that dosent provide a standard of graphics you would expect for a typical machine, its usually lacking in the gpu function, ie the gpu function is below that rate, despite what the cpu in x-bits may be,
cpus arent design for graphics, though they can be perverted to display.
hence why intel is probably the world leader in cpu design, but not even on the radar against nvidia and ati/amd for gpu design.
programming knowledge is a limiting factor as well
you would have to accept, the widely acceptted superiour pc gaming is 32-bit.
because all games are still deigned to operate on a 32bit proccesor on a 32bit operating system,
the reason why a mordern game wont run on an older but fast enough 32 bit cpu, is sse extenions and graphic card shader versions, not the current bits of the cpu's.
really most games on what ever machine even as late as 1999 were still essentially 16 bit code just as today its 32bit code, as far as the cpu is conserned
lol... the devs didn't understand how the distant objects/horizon should move when the point of view of the player changes direction. They've treated it like sideways panning parallax instead of a simple change of viewing direction.
there 32bit or they wouldnt be able to run through the cpu, pushed through a 256bit graphics card.
bit refers to the graphics system bus width, not cpu.
all games up till after the jaguars death were designed to run on 16bit cpu's wasnt until 98 until you started getting 32bit cpu optimised games, ie games you needed a 32bit cpu to run, until window became 32bit, most games were essentially 16bit.
@cant1rac Actually, the Jag is not a true 64 bit console at all. I'm not going to go into it in a Youtube comment stream because if you care enough you can google it yourself. I'm saying with 100% certainty that you are wrong. It was 'clever' marketing that failed very badly.
if you were to disclaim the jaguar as 64 bit, you would have to discount the turbo graphix, the n64 the dreamcast and every single consule that came after it.
because none of them had a cpu configuration in bits that matched the gpu and all claimed xxxxbits from the bus width and gpu bus width.
@cant1rac really the argument should not be if the jaguar is 64bits, because since the turbo graphix that has been the convention of determining xxxbits power of a consule.
but is it the right convention ?
if you were to take cpu as the minimum determining value, very few consule have got over 32 bits
and on pc since the os is 32bit and the maximum cpu is 64bit, gaming on pc is still 32bit in effect...... because of the limitation the cpu has with the 32 bit operating system
The music is nice. It reminds me of Quik the Thunder rabbit (labyrinth stages) and Marvin's marvellous adventure (then level with pipes in the dark) music on the good old Amiga. I wonder if either of the musicians were involved or whether the musician for this game was inspired by the music of those games
who care if it is a bit of a rip off mario kart, its a good game, thoughs gaming nerd flame boys, for this system or that system.
and alway the most popular systems i might add, wish they hush sometimes.
jaguar was the most ridiculously over powered system off its day and yes it really was 64bits.
just chicken and egg syndrome killed it, cant get developers on board till you get more users, cant get more users till you get more developers making games. some amazing titles, but not enough
@Deokishisu Who cares about the screen size?... this game looks boring, the graphics are not that impressive, and the Mario Bros Franchise alone makes Super Mario Kart more appealing than this game. (My opinion)
I know I'm not going to be the first to say it, I know many have said this already. If this game is anything like Super Mario Kart, I'm getting an Atari Jaguar, and this game.
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I owned this game as a child, and even though the graphics were amazing at the time, the music always made me depressed. Something downbeat and strange about it.
Wow, I know a lot of companies borrowed from Super Mario Kart, but this is just a complete rip off top to bottom. Basically, this game is saying "oh crap, you sold your SNES for a Jaguar? That was stupid. Well, here's that game you wished you could play, only not quite as fun."
Looks very average BC racers looks more fun and that isn't a great game by any means street racer on the Saturn is the best kart racer i have ever played try that out.
I agree and its boring. If your going to copy a kick ass game like Mario Kart at least bring it up a notch. Put some power ups and sharks with lasers on their heads.
i could never find this game when i had my jaguar... i always thought it looked like a decent mario kart clone... the scrolling in the back is really good. i wish jag developers would have stuck to doing kick ass 2-d games instead of trying 3-d and half-assing it.
Apparently, the Jaguar had certain parts that were 64 bits and could run 64 bit commands. Something along those lines. I think due to some of the architecture you could class it as a 64 bit machine. Not that 'bits' actually mattered that much by the time the Jaguar, Saturn, etc came out. It was more for marketing than anything.
The Dreamcast wasn't a "final run" you tool. It suffered from a flaw during manufacturing which resulted in low numbers in the system release to the US market. If the RROD had been spotted earlier, the xbox 360 would most likely have suffered the same fate as the Dreamcast.
But yes, the Jaguar was Atari's final swipe at the console market, maybe one day they'll rise again... I won't hold my breath.
what the hell are your talking about? there were no flaws sega didnt have the money to continue making the system because they lost about $750,000 on the sega cd/32x, saturn. Ask anyone they will tell you the same.
Dude, there was a hardware shortage during it's launch, in the first 2 weeks of it's release more than 500,000 units were sold in the US. America was basically sold out of Dreamcasts, the unavailability scared off skeptical shoppers (because we'd been burned by SEGA before) and with all of the hype for the PS2 (and it's ability to play DVDs) sales continued to fall.
The unit shortage was caused by a component flaw from another company. No units, no sales, SEGA tanks.
@iluvmyveedub shortage of dreamcasts had nothing to do with Sega tanking.Sega can only make so many dreamcasts, its not segas fault they sold out. they werent gonna buy a ps2 just because there was a shortage if they wanted it bad enough or if they cared for sega they would have waited.There was a shortage of ps2s on launch day but people waited and didnt go buying an xbox thats really stupid.Sony is a well trusted brand and a huge company compared to sega, Sega did not have the money to compete
People didn't wait for the Dreamcast because confidence in SEGA had been shaken by a string of crap systems (CD, 32X, Saturn) so no one waited around to see if the Dreamcast would live. Hence, gamers no longer favored SEGA (kinda like Tiger Woods)
The PS1 was a hugely successful system, Sony was a long established manufacturer of quality electronics, so the PS2 seemed like a sure bet The Xbox was a noob, and no one knew what to expect from it (and was realeased over a year later) e.g. PS2 win.
@iluvmyveedub I get your point, but it's a bit more complicated than what you list. Sega actually sold almost 11 million by the time they discontinued it.
kinda hard to be a 64-bit system when everyone else was just scratching the surface of 32-bit. It needed another 3-5yrs before it could actually be anything 64 bit'ish. Too bad atari...
Rip off games desperately trying to compete with games that were just normal on other systems. You want to know who to blame for jaguars failure. The tramiels they didn't like spending money at all.
id rather play this than super mario kart. this game looks fun. the music is great. cool game. plus this has updated graphics. stop complaing about the atari jaguar its a great system.
Yes, but Mario Kart was on the Nintendo (16 bit) while Atari Jaguar was announced as a 64 bit console, so I think we could have expected much better graffics. I bought the Jaguar back in 1995 and I was so dissappointed. There was only one console that was even worse and that was the Amiga 32 CD.
This looks as good as any kart racer since most of them are the same game with different characters. Mario Kart on any system isn't that good anyways.
Like Mario Kart only with a hardcore edge. Probably better they left this game in SNES style pseudo 3D rather than use the Jaguars full 3D capabilities which weren't all that great to be fair, unlike the Playstation it had no custom 3D hardware everything had to be done via the main processors.
This game is cool. I don't understand all the people here who come with all their technical numbers and whining about processor speeds and blabla, because if you don't like the game nor the console, than just don't buy it and don't play it. Don't bother the rest of the world with that. What are you trying to accomplish? To stop people from buying Atari things so the company goes broke? Well, you can stop doing that, cause that has already happened. You are beating a dead horse with a stick here.
Its the truth its a pile of shit. Sorry to piss on your memories but come on the system looked dated when it came out. The controller is a pile of dogshit and games not much better Kasumi Ninja hahahahahahaha
hehe, had one myself. Most games were crap but besides that, it was a superior system well ahead of its time.
graphically it shat from great heights on snes and genesis. Even after saturn and ps1 were released it still held up graphic/sound wise. However psx was obviously a superior system due to its gaming catalogue. But seriously avp, doom or rayman on jaguar... nah, couldnt be done like that on any of those systems. (resolution alone was superior)
You said a very important point, if people want to complain about the hardware, why don't they go to a forum, and talk about it? This is just a video, and I came here to see it.
Also, it's not very dead, though. The Jaguar is now an open hardware, now anybody can make demos with it, and make a "Jaguar II". Like the idea?
The sound you hear when you select a menu option reminds me of the old Windows 95 error chord, I don't care much for the stereo sound arrangement in this game.
64-bit is the number of bits (binary digits) it can handle per cycle...
So, a 26 MHZ processor has 26000000 cycles per second. 26,000,000*64= a theoretical bandwidth of about 198.5 MegaBytes/sec.
Compare this to a 32-bit Pentium 2 (400mhz) at 300 MegaBytes/s.... and there you go. That's why mhz doesn't tell the whole story.
But let me ask you this, would you enjoy playing a game in oh-so-ugly "software mode" on a console, that is only 2/3 the speed of a Pentium 2? LOL didn't think so...
I mean why the photograpic city in the background?, That doesn't fit in with cartoon style animals, and that bear looks like it's from Akira the anime film. You know that mad bear in that guys mind. Great game, I'd by it for my machine if it had this.
its the processor not the gpu that's 64bit, the gpu was a 32bit chip. but remember its the speed of the chip that matters too. and the game is not taking full advantage of the hardware.
I'm 99% sure you have never played this game, the graphics are much better than Mario Kart, the music is good, and the only drawback is the difficulty.
Really? 99% sure based on what? Obviously not based on the fact that my neighbor HAD this system, along with the Sega 32X and other horrid game systems. I HAVE played this game, otherwise I wouldn't have commented on it see? I don't speak about things I don't personally know about. Like say, how I'm 99% sure some dude I've never met or talked to has never played a certain video game?
Fail. And it's difficult because it's got crap handling. The graphics are SLIGHTLY better, which I already said.
If you think that the graphics are only slightly better than mario kart mabey you played mario kart with your eyes closed. Oh and I'm sure that playing a game on your NEIGHBORS game system for 30 seconds 14 years ago obviously makes you an expert on the subject. The game is too difficult because the AI players put up lap times too fast to beat, it has NOTHING to do with the handling. But i forget that you played this game once over a decade ago so you should have known that.
this game is a must have for any Jaguar owners in terms of quality and as a collector. However, given its high price.....only hardcore jaguar fan should get it...for the same price you can get a SNES with Mario Kart and a 2nd controller..such a shame though!
wondermega4ever 3 months ago
I like the music
JackDaScarecrow 3 months ago
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JackDaScarecrow 3 months ago
Loved the song
unofficialSummer 4 months ago
I played this game for the first time today. Not bad at all. Controls a little bit iffy though (but again, not too bad).
MattTheSaiyan 5 months ago
The bits dont make the graphics better if the 64bit processor is only a tiny blitter chip with a 64bit buzz. Most developers programed the games in 16bit the the main processors were 32bit and not very powerfull compared to the Sega saturn or the PS1.
NielsShoe 6 months ago
The only real Atari Character is Bentley bear Since he was on Crystal Castles.
millergamer 6 months ago
64 bit my ass
metakight4 6 months ago
I don't know why, but lot of the atari games are remember me on Amiga demos... don't' know why. Still like this game. Thanks for the video!
kraut1x 7 months ago
Mario Kart.
ukgamenerd 9 months ago
i dont get why people slate this, this is a great game, not that different from street racer from for the pc (97) have similar on playstation.
little mario kart copies.
wasnt uncommon on any system in the 90's
it is! what it is! a good fun little mario kart clone.
cant1rac 10 months ago
ahh the good old days with primitive graf..,. sniff sniff
spam1712 10 months ago
17 peoples have a mario kart tattoo
Darky2001 10 months ago
to contradict myself the hardware atari released was poor during the 80's.
why was a company with a blitter chip 16bit wonder like the mega st in 86, releasing a 8bit games machine based on a 1979 atari 800 in 87.
what atari had and what it released is a complete contradiction.
atari had the ablity to release a 16bit blitter chip megadrive compatable machine a full 4 years before sega released in europe.
it had the ablity to release a xegs machine 7 years before it did.
buisness incompetence
cant1rac 10 months ago
@cant1rac spelling mistake not mega drive compataible. machine able to compete with mega drive!
Atari had the ablity to release a rival 16bit consule to megadrive 4 years before them. but released a sub standard 8bit system.
when they could have led the field.
ironically the jaguar jumped the16bit - 32bit transition, which it self was a mistake
atari would have better releasing the panther and further developing the jaguar into a cd machine
such a machine may have even beaten an N64
cant1rac 10 months ago
a major reason why atari is no more, isnt hardware!
its buisness incompetence!
A horendous 5200, bad blood between software developers that led to the creation of activision.
a good but late 7800 hobbled by a vcs sound chip in 86.
releasing the xegs in 87 effectively pulled the rug out from under both consules.
burning developers that were willing to support the 7800 causing even more distrust of the atari brand.
atari had sown the seeds of its own defeat for over a decade.
cant1rac 10 months ago
really we get back to the atari, jumping a generation, gaming programming knowledge for a 32bit gpu system was brand new, never mind 64.
it being split between 5 chips made it even more complicated 2x cpu 2x gpu and 16bit controller .
really we see some poor 64bit graphics in early n64 with nearly 3x the cpu power.
short draw distance and lack of textures .
there are some amazing displays of the jaguars graphical ablity (phaze zero) especially for a machine of its age and cpu power
cant1rac 10 months ago
The Jaguar to me was the greatest consule of its generation, i bought doom wolfenstein alien vs predator, all out by the time it hit britain.
all at a staggering standard above the then snes competion.
later on i got rayman and most people not just my self rate it above the ps1 version.
sadly people want to rip it apart usually 3do fan boys, (3do is an excellent system as well) using the panther designed games like cybermorph as an argument, the poorest display of the jaguars true ablity.
cant1rac 11 months ago
@cant1rac You could have bought a PC and played the same games but better. Wold 3d and DOOM, plus all the other shooters. Duke 3d, Half Life, Quake, etc. Not on Jaguar. Oh, and PC doom has something the jag version doesn't MUSIC!!!
HaloSpartanG13 11 months ago
@HaloSpartanG13 you are obviously a retard on here to slag off the jaguar.
im not slagging off the 3do which was a very capable consule, i own one, theres not much difference between the jag and 3do release dates, depends which region your in,
and the post to my profile sell your consule
extremely immature.
i had a pc for your imformation as well.
what are you on this for just to cause trouble, post your consules shit, grow up.
ohh and i own most consules ever released in uk, im not a fan boy
cant1rac 11 months ago
@HaloSpartanG13 every consule tried to get the best port off doom everybody failed except the jaguar and playstation, i have this year given up on pc gaming, because the drm and liscensing is horrific.
and the xbox 360 not that far behind, you want to spend £35-40 quid on a new game you cant trade in with little resale value and in a few years depending on the server or the drm restriction unusable, then you really are an idiot
cant1rac 11 months ago
@cant1rac You can use steam....and games for cheap as hell with minimal DRM.
HaloSpartanG13 11 months ago
@HaloSpartanG13 ohh so you know dont own a physical copy and cant sell or trade what you've invested your money in... very good, i have steam as well, and it self is a form of drm
cant1rac 11 months ago
@cant1rac I bet you are one of those kids who goes on amazon and spams games with 1 star reviews.
Steam is decent, because you can get games during sales for cheaper then dirt, so it doesn't matter anyway to me.
HaloSpartanG13 11 months ago
@HaloSpartanG13 im a 36 year old man, you sound like the spoiled kid.
steam has took away your right to own a product, resell it or do what you like with it.
your licesing your software not buying it, with no real legal rights.
you all so seam like a puritanical idiot citing im a superiour pc gamer.
ive been a pc gamer since 93, an atari st and amiga user as well, my first consule on my 5 birthaday in 1979 was the atari vcs, and i have owned and played everything since, im no fanboy, but you?
cant1rac 11 months ago
@HaloSpartanG13 your comment about 1 star reviews i have not slagged off any consule or any games, infact i like this game, i have it.
you are the one coming on a youtube about an atari game and rubbishing positive comments about it.
your the one spamming me with your consules crap play a pc or a snes.
"the jags version of dooms crap cause it dosent have music" well its the most fluid and playable of all the consule releases.
i supposed you havent played it ? or ever owned a jaguar either ?
cant1rac 11 months ago
@HaloSpartanG13 the only thing i said was 3do fanboys like to have a very illiterate and unfair dig at the jaguar often refering to less texturing etc, but thats a sympton of the cartridge format and the n64 suffered compared with the psx as well.
i hate fanboys where ever they are, i have a 3do i like the 3do.
the worst fanboys and i own their machines as well, is the amiga, apple/mac, 3do ohh and pc and linux user which i am as well.
i like the jaguar despite it never filled its true potential
cant1rac 11 months ago
@cant1rac What about the Jag CD? The games are either FMV crap or MORE snes graphics. Truth is, the N64 used carts, and looked better then the PSX if programmed right.
HaloSpartanG13 11 months ago
@HaloSpartanG13 your obfiously an jag hater, id ask why you posting on this!!!
snes graphics ohh, yes ive seen alien vs predator on a snes.
n64 could never used as much texturing as a ps or a saturn or a 3do cause you couldnt get 100mb cartridge never mind a 700mb .
fmv games were the rage on the 3do and megacd cant remember really that mant on the jag cd and i own most of them.
think your talking through a hole in your proverbial
cant1rac 11 months ago
@cant1rac HAHA, Keep calling me a "Jag Hater" dyslexic. Truth is, the Jaguar is a pile of shit which was poorly designed. Star fox looks better than those 3d shooters on the jag, and plays better too. Most of the games look like SNES or Super FX chip/Sega 32x games. And all the good games......are ported to other consoles.
They also decided to make dumb decisions, just watch a review of it. It sucks, stop looking through those tinted goggles.
HaloSpartanG13 11 months ago
@HaloSpartanG13 well if your talking about cybermorph, its a much more complex 3d enviroment than starfox which i own as well, in fact i have most consules.
but yeah that and club drive kasumi ninja dont look great .
if you judge on alien vs predator, rayman which most think is just better than the ps version, world tour racing battlemorph and the unreleased but avilable phaze zero (which is as good as any saturn game ive played and up there with early playstation.
i know the jags flaws
cant1rac 11 months ago
@HaloSpartanG13 your judging the jaguar on the shit software that came out on it.
i could look at busby 3d on the playstaion and from that say the machine was garbage rather than look at gran turismo 2 and get a proper perspective.
thats exactly what your doing, jaguar had flaws, ataris own software release were abismal, the inital software wasnt fantastic, sadly some off the best jaguar games came out or were avilable as a demo, when it was too late, there are great games on the system as well
cant1rac 11 months ago
@HaloSpartanG13 i'll make a wee list.
Fantastic games that came out for the Jaguar depending on your taste.
Rayman, Wolfenstein 3d, Doom, Alien vs Predator, World tour racing, Primal rage, Raiden, Cannon fodder, Theme park, Sensible soccer, Syndicate, Skyhammer, Soccer kid, Battlesphere, (playable demo) Phaze zero, Ultra vortek, Zero 5, Battlemorph, Powerdrive (all great for the time)
and there is crap like any system. Clubdrive, AirCars, White men cant jump.
look at both for a fair perspective
cant1rac 11 months ago
@cant1rac Most exist on other consoles. So there is no point in owning a jaguar.
The Jag CD is a piece of shit too. AVGN bought 2 for high prices, and both redscreened.
HaloSpartanG13 11 months ago
@HaloSpartanG13 i have 2 jag cd unit and both have had the same minor fault.
its the lid catch spring is to tight, eventualy this shears the little plastic catch and the lid wont close properly.
there is actual nothing wrong with the cd unit it self, usually just the catch on the lid.
id say your the one missing out on some good and jag exclusive games like skyhammer, alien vs predator, world tour racing and battlesphere your loss through what i'd describe as a poor attitude.
cant1rac 11 months ago
@HaloSpartanG13 i really think to say this consule is shit shows a lot of immaturity every consule has faults and problems.
even the worst probably the atari 5200, still has some great games, so im no atari fan boy
the atari 5200 was poorly designed, the 7800 sound chip was awful, the xegs far too late for the market.
what gets me is people shout about the 64bit claim with out understanding a thing about bits in a graphical context and judge the jaguar on the worst of the games for it
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cant1rac 11 months ago
Well, it does have some decent music.
DrClay999 11 months ago
Nice video. Love the main menu music in this game. The system had really good music for being cart based.
ATARI800XLfan 11 months ago
i have a retro games mag about somewhere.
with an interview from one of atari jaguars designers, talking about the bits question, and saying it is a full 64bit system on a full 64 bit bus, the cpu is even doubled up to give effectively 64 bit. thoughs technical facts are undeniable.
where he says it failed is why the saturn failed.
was too complex a system, difficuilt to programme for,
atari had pissed of every developer with the 7800 then dropping it instantly for the xegs
will try and find it
cant1rac 1 year ago
@cant1rac
Depending on the external/internal data bus, the registers and address buses, blitters, etc. a console marketer could bend the numbers their way. At least, that's how it feels. I do remember one interview where a developer stated the Jag was "64-bit where it counted", which is possibly the best way of putting it. I couldn't tell you either way, but ultimately it didn't mean much as the "bit wars" were always more about advertisement than anything technical.
dunnono00 11 months ago
@dunnono00 its the way the games industry has been since the turbo graphx with an 8bit cpu was succesfully accepted by the industry as 16bit because where it counted the graphic chip was 16bit and the bus it operated was 16bit.
so the atari jaguar being the only consule where its questioned? is a really unjustifiable and more to do with the intrests of its competators and thous in the industry atari pissed off with the incompetance of the design and marketing of the 5200, 7800 & xegs
cant1rac 11 months ago
@dunnono00 really its nothing to do with marketing or advertising because it is technical point about the make up of any consule.
if we were to take the cpu as the gidding factor the intellvision would be considered a 16bit consule, but its graphical capablity wouldnt be much more than 4 bits, no ones ever said an intellivision is a 16bit consule.
on the other hand a turbografx is considered 16bit, because it can produce 16bit graphics through its gpu and bus even though its only an 8bit cpu
cant1rac 11 months ago
@cant1rac
The TG-16 to this day is called 8-bit by many, and Sega even scoffed at its claims of being 16-bit, so I don't know what this "industry wide acceptance" of its bittage comes from. It was accepted as a competitor, certainly, and as a commercially viable machine in its day.
And can you describe to me what "4-bit graphics" actually is? What 8-bit graphics is? What 16-bit graphics is?
dunnono00 11 months ago
@dunnono00 there is no doubt some did question the turbo graphx at the time but nothing ive read says anything other than 16bit for the turbo graphx, the atari has a focus on its bit rating out of any resonable scale with anyother system.
and are you being funny about whats the difference between bits, or do you want a lesson from binary digit and bit set all the way up to chanels and the function of bits in gpu's, cause i can look up links if you want suggest papers on the science
cant1rac 11 months ago
@cant1rac
Perhaps its something to do with all the "Do the Math" ads, or it's just easy to bash certain consoles, or a combination... but setting that aside for the moment...
Are you telling me you need links and papers in computer science to answer my question? Humor me a moment. I was very curious when you said the Intellivision had "4-bit" graphical capability. What are the parameters here for such graphics? Is it the color palettes? The number of sprites onscreen?
dunnono00 11 months ago
@dunnono00 no i dont need links papers or anything to answer you, i meant the intelivisions graphical potential offered little more than an atari vcs despite having a far more powerful cpu, and that its not the cpu thats the defining factor, but everyone refers to as important in refrence to the jaguar...
you want a list of the graphical capablity of an intelivision the amount of colors displayed on screen characters pixel being less compared with a typical 8 bit system or you being pretentious
cant1rac 11 months ago
@cant1rac
If it helps you answer my question... but I'll cut to the chase:
It's hard to define "x-bit" graphics in concrete terms, isn't it? The easiest thing is to make nebulous comparisons against other systems of the same era or a later one. The generation before the NES had 8-bit CPU's for the most part. Look at how wide that spectrum of graphical capability is. What is 8-bit graphics?
Which is why I say the bit-wars was less about technical specs, and more about hype and advertising.
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@dunnono00 each pixel is represented by one 8-bit byte. The maximum number of colors that can be displayed at any one time is 256.
(24 bits color: 8 red, 8 green, 8 blue)
(8 bit true color 3 red 3 green 2 blue)
my point its not the cpu.
an 8 bit cpu machine like the turbo graphix can display more than an 8 bit system because of its gpu.
intellivision can not display anything like 256 colors or 8 bit true colors, even though it has a 16bit cpu.
opposite ends of the scale, but the same reason
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@dunnono00
each pixel is represented by one 8-bit byte. The maximum number of colors that can be displayed at any one time is 256.
(24 bits color: 8 red, 8 green, 8 blue)
(8 bit true color 3 red 3 green 2 blue)
my point its not the cpu.
an 8 bit cpu machine like the turbo graphix can display more than an 8 bit system because of its gpu.
intellivision can not display anything like 256 colors or 8 bit true colors, even though it has a 16bit cpu.
opposite ends of the scale, but the same reason
cant1rac 11 months ago
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@dunnono00 each pixel is represented by one 8-bit byte. The maximum number of colors that can be displayed at any one time is 256.
(24 bits color: 8 red, 8 green, 8 blue)
(8 bit true color 3 red 3 green 2 blue)
my point its not the cpu.
an 8 bit cpu machine like the turbo graphix can display more than an 8 bit system because of its gpu.
intellivision can not display anything like 256 colors or 8 bit true colors, even though it has a 16bit cpu.
opposite ends of the scale, but the same reason
cant1rac 11 months ago
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@dunnono00 each pixel is represented by one 8-bit byte. The maximum number of colors that can be displayed at any one time is 256.
(24 bits color: 8 red, 8 green, 8 blue)
(8 bit true color 3 red 3 green 2 blue)
my point its not the cpu.
an 8 bit cpu machine like the turbo graphix can display more than an 8 bit system because of its gpu.
intellivision can not display anything like 256 colors or 8 bit true colors, even though it has a 16bit cpu.
opposite ends of the scale, but the same reason
cant1rac 11 months ago
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@dunnono00 each pixel is represented by one 8-bit byte. The maximum number of colors that can be displayed at any one time is 256.
(24 bits color: 8 red, 8 green, 8 blue)
(8 bit true color 3 red 3 green 2 blue)
my point its not the cpu.
an 8 bit cpu machine like the turbo graphix can display more than an 8 bit system because of its gpu.
intellivision can not display anything like 256 colors or 8 bit true colors, even though it has a 16bit cpu.
opposite ends of the scale, but the same reason
cant1rac 11 months ago
@dunnono00 what do you want to know about 8-bit color graphics. the 3bits red 3bits green 2bits blue in 8-bit true color graphics or is it the 256 avialble colurs and 8 bits given to each color, you see an 8-bit graphical system has to be able to display a certain amount of colors on screen to be truely 8bit, and as in the intellivisons case.
it couldnt even though it had a 16 bit chip, its true graphical output wasn't even 8 bit.
which is my whole point its technical, its not just advertising
cant1rac 11 months ago
@cant1rac
So, how many colors must be displayed onscreen to be a truly 8-bit system?
dunnono00 11 months ago
@dunnono00 this is were you are partialy right, a number dont have and graphics unit or component so are very linited graphicaly.
with a dedicate 8-bit graphics chip or dedicated graphical 8 bit graphical component to the cpu can display up to 256. hence why an intellivision can only display a few colours with a 16bit.
but that is completely away from what i was even taking about or any relevance to 16 bit systems never mind 64 bit all of which has some dedicated gpu compotenet. so not problem
cant1rac 11 months ago
@dunnono00 never wanted to discus 8bit systems or any off that.
think you latch on to a tiny part of what i was saying or misinterpreted.
my point was its not the cpu thats the defining factor in the POTENTIAL graphical out.
Intellivison graphics are similar to an atari vcs, which gets described as a 4bit system? despite a 16bit processor.
a turbo graphx gives out far more than any 8 bit system, due to dedicated 16 bit gpu
AN Atari is 64bit cause thats what its gpu and bus is, thats all
cant1rac 11 months ago
@dunnono00 its not advertising as you say, but many factors in the differences between systems, potential bottlenecks, like the low capacity but fast ram in the ps3, each system has them, its the development time and work arounds, that can make huge differences, look at early c64 games, blocky and crude. there was a memory problem that ment a spectrum 48k could address more memory than a 64k commadore, but work arounds were found, programming impoved, then the c64 had probably the best games
cant1rac 11 months ago
@dunnono00 obviously companies will hype there own product and are prone to a little exageration, but the technical potential is there on paper, even if through programming, developer support, vendor support, demand, system bugs or bottlenecks hamper that possiblity in reality.
Atari Jaguar is a consule, that had the potential, and games like phaze zero show it was possible to meet that potential, but the above problems did impact on it's potential to deliver in its short life span
cant1rac 11 months ago
@cant1rac
Well, as you've found, you can't just put out the definition for different sets of color palettes and hope it translates to consoles. I was merely illustrating that x-bit graphics is defined less than distinctly in solid technical terms. Perhaps I went off-track just a bit, but I wanted to show how much of what we accepted as common wisdom back in the day really can be disputed or dissected or even attributed to marketing.
dunnono00 10 months ago
@dunnono00 i dont accept the marketing argument, but i do get what your on about.
companies will be liberal in claiming what their machines can do.
Zx Spectrum for example had no dedicated x-bit gpu, which is why its graphical ablity was poor compared with a c64 or msx that did have a gpu component in 8 bits.
we have the intellivision that had no true gpu component and despite a 16 bit processor could'nt process any more colors on screen than an atari vcs with an inferiour cpu.
gpu, gpu, gpu
cant1rac 10 months ago
@cant1rac another critical mistake (and sega made it as well) was including a lower level system chip of a 68xxxx motarola family to give legacy support to try and encourage developer support.
these were used in some case to develop the base software that game development would start then scaled up, but resulted in not just inferiour software on the jaguar, but i have examples for my saturn as well.
jaguar suffered badly from very poor developer support from over a decade of atari incompetence
cant1rac 10 months ago
@dunnono00 when you see a x-bit machine that dosent provide a standard of graphics you would expect for a typical machine, its usually lacking in the gpu function, ie the gpu function is below that rate, despite what the cpu in x-bits may be,
cpus arent design for graphics, though they can be perverted to display.
hence why intel is probably the world leader in cpu design, but not even on the radar against nvidia and ati/amd for gpu design.
programming knowledge is a limiting factor as well
cant1rac 10 months ago
@dunnono00 i think your not getting my overall point.
no one jumps up and down and says a the dreamcast isnt 128 bit cause it uses a 32bit risc processor or a ps2 etc.
but every second comment at the jaguar is that not 64bit.
but is just as much what ever bits as there dreamcast playstation nintendo or their beloved xbox.
i'd love to see a more intelligent debate on the jaguar, there are a lot of + and - too the system.
cant1rac 11 months ago
infact if we compare on that argument used against the jaugar the jaguar actually comes out best...... eg.
Dreamcast....... 128 bit gpu and a single 32 bit cpu (1 x 32 bit = 32bits)
Atari Jaguar..... 64 bit gpu and 2x 32 bit cpu (2 x 32 bit = 64 bit) on 64 bit bus
cant1rac 1 year ago
why do we have this strange bits argument when it comes to the jag.
if appllied it to other consules.
the turbo graphix would be an 8 bit machine.
everything from the 3d0 and jaguar to the present xbox 360 are 32bit systems.
the cell processor is essentially a 32bit processor that can upscale to 128 bit registers so it a bit more ambigious.
so even at the most ambitious claims of the ps3 its only as powerful in bits a the dreamcast claimed it was, which only had a 32bit risc cpu.
so its all crap
cant1rac 1 year ago
you would have to accept, the widely acceptted superiour pc gaming is 32-bit.
because all games are still deigned to operate on a 32bit proccesor on a 32bit operating system,
the reason why a mordern game wont run on an older but fast enough 32 bit cpu, is sse extenions and graphic card shader versions, not the current bits of the cpu's.
really most games on what ever machine even as late as 1999 were still essentially 16 bit code just as today its 32bit code, as far as the cpu is conserned
cant1rac 1 year ago
It's just like Wacky Wheels for PC :S.
PhilMcCool 1 year ago
mario kart for the snes looks way better
hastati88 1 year ago 2
64 bit my ass...graphics look just like SNES. Looks fun though...I've considered getting one of these on eBay out of curiosity.
bpotts0401 1 year ago
lol... the devs didn't understand how the distant objects/horizon should move when the point of view of the player changes direction. They've treated it like sideways panning parallax instead of a simple change of viewing direction.
dfendr93 1 year ago
It's like the Clayfighters went offroad!
tiakpark 1 year ago
all the idiots that say jag isnt 64bit!
do you think graphics today are touching 64bit.
there 32bit or they wouldnt be able to run through the cpu, pushed through a 256bit graphics card.
bit refers to the graphics system bus width, not cpu.
all games up till after the jaguars death were designed to run on 16bit cpu's wasnt until 98 until you started getting 32bit cpu optimised games, ie games you needed a 32bit cpu to run, until window became 32bit, most games were essentially 16bit.
jag is 64
cant1rac 1 year ago
@cant1rac Actually, the Jag is not a true 64 bit console at all. I'm not going to go into it in a Youtube comment stream because if you care enough you can google it yourself. I'm saying with 100% certainty that you are wrong. It was 'clever' marketing that failed very badly.
supsification 1 year ago
@supsification no it is you that are wrong.
cpu etc has nothing to with it,
jaguar is a 64bit gpu on a 64bit bus.
if you were to disclaim the jaguar as 64 bit, you would have to discount the turbo graphix, the n64 the dreamcast and every single consule that came after it.
because none of them had a cpu configuration in bits that matched the gpu and all claimed xxxxbits from the bus width and gpu bus width.
both of which are 64bit in the jaguar
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@cant1rac really the argument should not be if the jaguar is 64bits, because since the turbo graphix that has been the convention of determining xxxbits power of a consule.
but is it the right convention ?
if you were to take cpu as the minimum determining value, very few consule have got over 32 bits
and on pc since the os is 32bit and the maximum cpu is 64bit, gaming on pc is still 32bit in effect...... because of the limitation the cpu has with the 32 bit operating system
cant1rac 1 year ago
@cant1rac
really the xbox 360 going by the argument against the jaguar is only a 32 bit consule.
it's cpu is a power pc 32 bit/64bit unit...
most of the game codeing is designed to work on a 32bit modified os .
but most people regard it as a 256 bit consule because its a 256bit gpu.
and the jaguar has a 64bit gpu and a 32bit processor.
so if you accept that a jagaur is not 64bits, you have to accept every consule going on the reasons for that assumption are only 32 bit as well
cant1rac 1 year ago
Its the GS version of mario kart
waddlerobloxxxx 1 year ago
I'd play this game just for the music.
ZombieGadget 1 year ago
I actually quite like this game. Gameplay was okay, and it has some nice artwork and sprite graphics for a mid-90s console.
bruceclarkemexico 1 year ago
thats a horrible game man atari could have better game line up from 3rd party dev what happend?
FumiyaSugawara 1 year ago
*drifter... i hope i dont run into you at a race track :p
mycurse67 1 year ago
your a horrible
mycurse67 1 year ago
The music is nice. It reminds me of Quik the Thunder rabbit (labyrinth stages) and Marvin's marvellous adventure (then level with pipes in the dark) music on the good old Amiga. I wonder if either of the musicians were involved or whether the musician for this game was inspired by the music of those games
friendlybees 1 year ago
i got this back in 95 when it came out and took it back the same day thats how
bad it was.
dougs914 1 year ago
who care if it is a bit of a rip off mario kart, its a good game, thoughs gaming nerd flame boys, for this system or that system.
and alway the most popular systems i might add, wish they hush sometimes.
jaguar was the most ridiculously over powered system off its day and yes it really was 64bits.
just chicken and egg syndrome killed it, cant get developers on board till you get more users, cant get more users till you get more developers making games. some amazing titles, but not enough
cant1rac 1 year ago
64-bit MY ASS!
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tommytazz2 1 year ago
this game was a BAD super mario kart rip off.
dougs914 1 year ago
@dougs914
Why because it's fullscreen unlike Super Mario Kart?
Deokishisu 1 year ago
@Deokishisu Who cares about the screen size?... this game looks boring, the graphics are not that impressive, and the Mario Bros Franchise alone makes Super Mario Kart more appealing than this game. (My opinion)
Jimmycorvettefan71 1 year ago
@Jimmycorvettefan71 exactly! they made this game because they saw the success of SMK and wanted the same success but it ended up like a crappy toilet
BillxMach 1 year ago
love the music, funky lil beat
TSGTheSportsGamer 1 year ago
the cars sound like lawn mowers
seemoremacstuff 1 year ago
@seemoremacstuff humm because they are go carts, they use lawn mover engines.
madmax2069 1 year ago
I know I'm not going to be the first to say it, I know many have said this already. If this game is anything like Super Mario Kart, I'm getting an Atari Jaguar, and this game.
Sledge070685 1 year ago
geez if they are going to tottally rip off mario kart they could have atleast made it better instead of way worse.
TekMoliGy 1 year ago
looks terrible
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deagla2 1 year ago
I owned this game as a child, and even though the graphics were amazing at the time, the music always made me depressed. Something downbeat and strange about it.
LetsBurnHoles 1 year ago
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I find it lovely instead, seems like the soundtrack for an old Amiga Demo....
Pergiacomo 1 year ago
Wow, I know a lot of companies borrowed from Super Mario Kart, but this is just a complete rip off top to bottom. Basically, this game is saying "oh crap, you sold your SNES for a Jaguar? That was stupid. Well, here's that game you wished you could play, only not quite as fun."
aiolaviola 1 year ago
Looks very average BC racers looks more fun and that isn't a great game by any means street racer on the Saturn is the best kart racer i have ever played try that out.
mjdoomreviews 1 year ago
this game is only better than mario kart for snes in graphics
raphael19ify 1 year ago 4
looks just like super mario kart for snes
justsaymint 1 year ago 7
@justsaymint
I agree and its boring. If your going to copy a kick ass game like Mario Kart at least bring it up a notch. Put some power ups and sharks with lasers on their heads.
tonytigeer 1 year ago
@justsaymint
Naah...really?
Ya don't say?
ExtremeBogom 1 year ago
I dont get why they didn't give this game better graphics looks no better than moongames/moon speeder on Atari Falcon030
bobbystar101 1 year ago
is this the 1st ver of mario kart then mario kart came to snes?
gunboss201 2 years ago
@gunboss201 Mario Kart came out first, then this. Jaguar came out in 1993 and this game for Christmas 1995, just before Jaguar was discontinued.
DracIsBack 2 years ago
there's no "splash" when you run over the water, crappy game.
solo20xx 2 years ago
i could never find this game when i had my jaguar... i always thought it looked like a decent mario kart clone... the scrolling in the back is really good. i wish jag developers would have stuck to doing kick ass 2-d games instead of trying 3-d and half-assing it.
deadline27 2 years ago
Apparently, the Jaguar had certain parts that were 64 bits and could run 64 bit commands. Something along those lines. I think due to some of the architecture you could class it as a 64 bit machine. Not that 'bits' actually mattered that much by the time the Jaguar, Saturn, etc came out. It was more for marketing than anything.
CLeRKSfan4life 2 years ago
This game seems familiar to me somehow...hmmm. Did Nintendo sue Atari for ripping off Mario Kart?
bigpoopie69 2 years ago
there are many many kart racing games out there, Nintendo just made it good.
LeoFan93 1 year ago 2
so the jaguar was like ataris final run in the console wars like sega with it's dreamcast.
djmick90 2 years ago
@djmick90
The Dreamcast wasn't a "final run" you tool. It suffered from a flaw during manufacturing which resulted in low numbers in the system release to the US market. If the RROD had been spotted earlier, the xbox 360 would most likely have suffered the same fate as the Dreamcast.
But yes, the Jaguar was Atari's final swipe at the console market, maybe one day they'll rise again... I won't hold my breath.
iluvmyveedub 2 years ago
what the hell are your talking about? there were no flaws sega didnt have the money to continue making the system because they lost about $750,000 on the sega cd/32x, saturn. Ask anyone they will tell you the same.
djmick90 2 years ago
Dude, there was a hardware shortage during it's launch, in the first 2 weeks of it's release more than 500,000 units were sold in the US. America was basically sold out of Dreamcasts, the unavailability scared off skeptical shoppers (because we'd been burned by SEGA before) and with all of the hype for the PS2 (and it's ability to play DVDs) sales continued to fall.
The unit shortage was caused by a component flaw from another company. No units, no sales, SEGA tanks.
iluvmyveedub 2 years ago
@iluvmyveedub shortage of dreamcasts had nothing to do with Sega tanking.Sega can only make so many dreamcasts, its not segas fault they sold out. they werent gonna buy a ps2 just because there was a shortage if they wanted it bad enough or if they cared for sega they would have waited.There was a shortage of ps2s on launch day but people waited and didnt go buying an xbox thats really stupid.Sony is a well trusted brand and a huge company compared to sega, Sega did not have the money to compete
djmick90 2 years ago
People didn't wait for the Dreamcast because confidence in SEGA had been shaken by a string of crap systems (CD, 32X, Saturn) so no one waited around to see if the Dreamcast would live. Hence, gamers no longer favored SEGA (kinda like Tiger Woods)
The PS1 was a hugely successful system, Sony was a long established manufacturer of quality electronics, so the PS2 seemed like a sure bet The Xbox was a noob, and no one knew what to expect from it (and was realeased over a year later) e.g. PS2 win.
iluvmyveedub 2 years ago
@iluvmyveedub I get your point, but it's a bit more complicated than what you list. Sega actually sold almost 11 million by the time they discontinued it.
DracIsBack 2 years ago
750,000,000 i meant
djmick90 2 years ago
Guys, come on. The graphics on this game are are decent bit better than anything on the SNES. It may not be 64-bit, but still..
dumb180 2 years ago
kinda hard to be a 64-bit system when everyone else was just scratching the surface of 32-bit. It needed another 3-5yrs before it could actually be anything 64 bit'ish. Too bad atari...
masterpd85 2 years ago
this honestly doesnt look like a game that should belong on the Jaguar, it looks like a SNES game
lightdark28 2 years ago 4
was this really a 64 bit console?
It doesn't even seem comparable to the 32 bit psx to me. but I could be wrong, I never owned one of these or saw it first person.
TheNatedogg56 2 years ago
@TheNatedogg56
the jaguar had a main 32 bit processor and a number of others that just happened to add up to 64
Zxvak 2 years ago
to me the jaguar was like a super nintendo but made by atari
aznjohn15 2 years ago
Atari Jaguar could have had impressive graphics, but it was hard to make games for it due to it being made differently from other consoles.
sportygrrrrrrl11998 2 years ago
Rip off games desperately trying to compete with games that were just normal on other systems. You want to know who to blame for jaguars failure. The tramiels they didn't like spending money at all.
Lumotaku 2 years ago
id rather play this than super mario kart. this game looks fun. the music is great. cool game. plus this has updated graphics. stop complaing about the atari jaguar its a great system.
AVGNfanNO1 2 years ago
Yes, but Mario Kart was on the Nintendo (16 bit) while Atari Jaguar was announced as a 64 bit console, so I think we could have expected much better graffics. I bought the Jaguar back in 1995 and I was so dissappointed. There was only one console that was even worse and that was the Amiga 32 CD.
Konni1969 2 years ago
This looks as good as any kart racer since most of them are the same game with different characters. Mario Kart on any system isn't that good anyways.
ViciousAlienKlown 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
This looks CRAP!
8BitROB 2 years ago
music really sounds like a european amiga game
MRINTERDOG 2 years ago 2
Or DOS game, too.
It's all about the demoscene ;)
20eric07 2 years ago
No surprise, Jaguar has -limited by software- 8 bit stereo digital channels, used in the Amiga (4 monaural channels).
I love those tunes really much.
DE7ChainedDoor 2 years ago
dragging thorugh the corners/ bends...but still remain 1st pos. LOL
marsiozo 2 years ago
Like Mario Kart only with a hardcore edge. Probably better they left this game in SNES style pseudo 3D rather than use the Jaguars full 3D capabilities which weren't all that great to be fair, unlike the Playstation it had no custom 3D hardware everything had to be done via the main processors.
Enzo012 2 years ago
check out street racer on the snes, it doesn't look much worse than this
nooblet911 2 years ago
Cartoon characters with realistic backgrounds and techno music? What were they going for? It doesn't fit together at all.
stonedslacker 2 years ago
Ever seen LSD Dream Simulator?
20eric07 2 years ago
This game is cool. I don't understand all the people here who come with all their technical numbers and whining about processor speeds and blabla, because if you don't like the game nor the console, than just don't buy it and don't play it. Don't bother the rest of the world with that. What are you trying to accomplish? To stop people from buying Atari things so the company goes broke? Well, you can stop doing that, cause that has already happened. You are beating a dead horse with a stick here.
1981Myname 2 years ago 19
Its the truth its a pile of shit. Sorry to piss on your memories but come on the system looked dated when it came out. The controller is a pile of dogshit and games not much better Kasumi Ninja hahahahahahaha
preydog1 2 years ago
:-) Kasumi Ninja is terrible.... that's true.
1981Myname 2 years ago
hehe, had one myself. Most games were crap but besides that, it was a superior system well ahead of its time.
graphically it shat from great heights on snes and genesis. Even after saturn and ps1 were released it still held up graphic/sound wise. However psx was obviously a superior system due to its gaming catalogue. But seriously avp, doom or rayman on jaguar... nah, couldnt be done like that on any of those systems. (resolution alone was superior)
goodflo911 2 years ago
You dnt think avp could be done on a PS1???? Surely it had the power to run that game???
preydog1 2 years ago
no it doulcnt. First of all the jag had a higher resolution, second the sprites were a bit too detailed. PS1 had a great avp title too though
goodflo911 2 years ago
I bet they could that in 3d on PS1
aznjohn15 2 years ago
You said a very important point, if people want to complain about the hardware, why don't they go to a forum, and talk about it? This is just a video, and I came here to see it.
Also, it's not very dead, though. The Jaguar is now an open hardware, now anybody can make demos with it, and make a "Jaguar II". Like the idea?
DE7ChainedDoor 2 years ago
The sound you hear when you select a menu option reminds me of the old Windows 95 error chord, I don't care much for the stereo sound arrangement in this game.
Lachlant1984 2 years ago
64-bit is the number of bits (binary digits) it can handle per cycle...
So, a 26 MHZ processor has 26000000 cycles per second. 26,000,000*64= a theoretical bandwidth of about 198.5 MegaBytes/sec.
Compare this to a 32-bit Pentium 2 (400mhz) at 300 MegaBytes/s.... and there you go. That's why mhz doesn't tell the whole story.
But let me ask you this, would you enjoy playing a game in oh-so-ugly "software mode" on a console, that is only 2/3 the speed of a Pentium 2? LOL didn't think so...
radicalgarbage02 2 years ago
even the gba can handle this
genro1080 2 years ago
People dont believe its 64 bit because of the games graphics lol.
Guys, the games put out for it...half of them dont use anywhere near the full potential.
smokeyvv 2 years ago
It kinda reminds of those bonus levels in Jazz Jackrabbit.
macmat55 2 years ago
I mean why the photograpic city in the background?, That doesn't fit in with cartoon style animals, and that bear looks like it's from Akira the anime film. You know that mad bear in that guys mind. Great game, I'd by it for my machine if it had this.
Jesus32Xtreme 2 years ago
This games music takes me away. I rate it above Mario kart because of it's spirit.
Jesus32Xtreme 2 years ago 2
lol this game is nowhere near Mario Kart for the Snes =)
msimplay 2 years ago
See below reply.
McSlappyNutz 2 years ago
U need halp!
McSlappyNutz 2 years ago
1. I was joking, 2. Why would you say something so useless anyway?
Get an imagination. Dumbass.
Jesus32Xtreme 2 years ago
this is supposed to be 64 bits?
themanwithnonose 2 years ago 4
its the processor not the gpu that's 64bit, the gpu was a 32bit chip. but remember its the speed of the chip that matters too. and the game is not taking full advantage of the hardware.
dfragglet 2 years ago
so they technically told the truth
themanwithnonose 2 years ago
It's the retarded cousin of Mario Kart that just happens to look slightly better (but plays horribly). Fail.
bennymdavis 2 years ago
I'm 99% sure you have never played this game, the graphics are much better than Mario Kart, the music is good, and the only drawback is the difficulty.
SauceCaptain 2 years ago
Really? 99% sure based on what? Obviously not based on the fact that my neighbor HAD this system, along with the Sega 32X and other horrid game systems. I HAVE played this game, otherwise I wouldn't have commented on it see? I don't speak about things I don't personally know about. Like say, how I'm 99% sure some dude I've never met or talked to has never played a certain video game?
Fail. And it's difficult because it's got crap handling. The graphics are SLIGHTLY better, which I already said.
bennymdavis 2 years ago
If you think that the graphics are only slightly better than mario kart mabey you played mario kart with your eyes closed. Oh and I'm sure that playing a game on your NEIGHBORS game system for 30 seconds 14 years ago obviously makes you an expert on the subject. The game is too difficult because the AI players put up lap times too fast to beat, it has NOTHING to do with the handling. But i forget that you played this game once over a decade ago so you should have known that.
SauceCaptain 2 years ago