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  • At least they are not copying from others, That's good.

  • The Waltz at the end of Beauty and the Beast is such a stock dance that it wouldn't look any different if they redrew it from scratch or used rotoscoping. Besides, animation takes tonnes of time; given Beauty and the Beast only had two years to go from conception to public, only one small retooled/stock/copied scene is damn impressive. The robin hood ones have blown my mind, however. Though as everyone said and knows, Disney were not doing well in the early 70s and the film had a tiny budget.

  • Not technically "copy + paste". These movies were produced before Xerox machines or computers were invented, so each cell still had to be re-drawn by hand, re-colored and re-shot. Even minor alterations such as props would still require painstaking time to complete. Also there are basic animation movements that are quite standard. Look up "walk cycle", and "takes". I would imagine Disney had standard dance cycles as well.

  • lol how do you notice these things.?

  • what is this song? i cant get it out of my head!

    its from OZ isnt it?

  • @madddin90 It is the so-called "Silly Song" from the Snow White soundtrack, but it seems to be a foreign version.

  • i would rather call this tributes shown in robin hood

  • :o mind officially blown

  • Wow! It's exactly the same, but in different movies.

  • Echoing a lot of other comments: I don't see much wrong with this. Disney was in financial trouble, had to resort to tracing their older work (which was still work, but less of it) and pulled itself up again. Would it have been better if Disney had collapsed at that point instead? Scenes like the ballroom dance are nothing to get upset about either (it's such a basic dance, why draw it differently?) Disney's made some amazing movies, we should be thankful for that.

  • Mind blown

  • must remember.. at that age there were only pencils and pen to animate something... so if they copy the animation secuence, they must redraw again frame by frame... aside of the mater of monetary issues and all the complications that that would bring to them...

  • @hitorijuunin only pencils and pen and rotoscope

  • I did not see anything wrong

  • I was waiting to see the Dogs/Wolves licking Mowley's/Arthur's face thing.

    I ended up finding MUCH more.

  • I wish Disney went back to this than what they are now.

  • People should study and learn how much money does it costs to create 5 minutes of animation before judging Disney which was having monetary issues in those days and calling it "copy-paste"

  • Such a strange song. What is it?

  • @truealchiemist

    It seems to be the French version of The Silly Song from Snow White

  • That is so sad!! And here i thought Disney was soo original..

  • very good song! but why in french...? xD

  • at least they recycle..LOL

  • lol Idk if I should be pissed or amazed...

  • childhood=ruined

  • Robin Hood, you little thief.

  • wow never noticed how amazing snow whites dancing animation was.

  • Wow. It feels kind of weird to see it copy and pasted for the Robin Hood one.

  • This is bullshit, I want underpaid animators to redraw all that shit I barely notice from scratch!

  • It might be the music, but this video makes me feel happy.

  • Makes it cheaper.

  • hey whats the song on this video?

  • what movie is that with the mole & weasels at 2:22?

  • still the best cartoon in the world

  • but... WHY?! .. D:

  • An orgasm at 1:58

  • This is so cool.

  • How the hell are people defending this!!?? Tis is fucked up.

  • Kinda makes you wonder what else they threw in these movies thatvwe didn't catch.

  • Search for "La tyrolienne des nains" for and u'll find the song ^^

  • What song is this?

  • @LilPetuniaOnionPatch I want to know too. I couldn't care less about "copy and paste", but this song kicks a**.

  • Disney

    The ultimate reposters, showing you can make it to the top if by just throwing the same old stuff they've seen a million times

  • Considering how many drawings they have to do for 1 second of animation, this is very efficient!

  • Anyone who is surprised by this has never animated something. :)

  • looks like alot of people are all up on walt disney's nut sack

  • what song/movie is the song from?

  • @aortizisawsome You can't be serious right? It's from Snow White.

  • @SeekerNami i havent watched snow white in more than 5 years

  • Seriously what is so wrong with this. I bet people who are picky HAVE NEVER DRAWN ANYTHING WORTH A DARN IN THEIR LIFE!! Also I don't think Disney hide it. I remember watching a documentary on the "oh guess what" DISNEY CHANNEL. It was talking about how animators reused certain senses to safe time and money in days they struggled.

  • MIND = BLOWN

  • Is it weird that this video creeps the hi hell outta me? xD

  • I see no sin in using the same filmed references and/or older rotoscoped material in a new film. In music, many of the great composers recycled thematic material and sometime whole movements in their compositions. Handel, Rossini and Offenbach come to mind. If you have some great material, there is no shame in using it again.

  • Every Disney film is a repost of a repost.

  • Actually, if you notice, it's all Robin Hood copying previous movies. That's because, when Robin Hood was in production, the Disney company wasn't doing very well. They had to trace cells from old movies for several scenes in order to be able to afford to make it. Luckily, Robin Hood did very well, and things picked for them after that. Other than that, almost any time something happens in a disney movie, it's an intentional shout out, or a ballroom dance scene (which has little variation).

  • Oh mon dieu. J'avais jamais remarqué…

  • I think what happened here is that the animators have to do studies of a choreographed dance or scene that is performed by real people in order to get the animation right (back before those convenient green tracking dots). It takes money and time to put those things together, so using the same study makes sense. It still gets the job done.

  • Lazy animators....

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  • Pfft, there isn't a cartoon company alive that hasn't reused footage. Especially backgrounds. It saves a lot of time and money.

  • BUSTED!!!

  • Well consider that the handmade movies still took years and years to create its all right in small amounts id say

  • Go figure.

    

  • They are too lazy too do diffrent dances in disney. Lazy ones.

  • i feel corrupted, My youth now seems like it was all a lie

  • I always forget how fluent all the classics look. So much better than today's cartoons. 

  • GREAT VIDEO! But How the hell did you notice them?! and find all of them?!

  • They all went to the same dance school

  • Stumble upon <3

  • i dont care if the movements are exactly the same, at least they spent time drawing it, instead of putting, for instance, the whole snow white into the robin hood cartoon, that'll be weird.... no matter what, i still love the disney classics. =D

  • This might go some way to explain why The Jungle Book, The Aristocats and Robin Hood are my three favourite Disney films. All the similarities.

    SUB-CONSCIOUS BITCH.

  • Everyone's bickering and conspiracy theories aside, this was REALLY well put together

  • Not to ruin people's good reason to flame, but has anyone considered that this could be Disney's way of creating metajokes?

  • what is the song??

  • I recently watched Robin Hood and The Aristocats within 48 hours of each other so I did actually notice a lot of the similarities bit I don't think it's cheating... Would you rather there were just less dance scenes and stuff? No. This is perfectly legitemate.

  • Even that I dont like disney too much, this is not cheating at all, most of this scenes were rotoscoped from live scenes,

  • Wow...

  • :O :O :O :O :( :(

  • necios... NO SE DAN CUENTA QUE ES OVBIAMENTE A PROPÓSITO???

    Esta es una escena cómica para las verdaderos expertos de disney. Ya que toma parte de otras películas. FELICITACIONES POR DARTE CUENTA @Dabedoo

  • 90% of these were from the dance scene in robin hood. this doesn't bother me too much.

  • uncanny!

  • Was that the Dwarves' song from Snow White in German?

  • these films were "hand made" so a bit of recycling is not an issue. Well done

  • It's a bit fucked up. But hey, it takes a very long time to make a film like that. I don't mind it that much.

  • Oh so much cheating, it's okay though. I still love Disney to bits.

  • I love Disney regardless.

  • about the snakes doing that hypnotic eye thing...wasn't it simmilar to what Jafar did in Alladin? I don't remember too well, but I think it may be close enough.

  • This music makes me want to jump out of a window.

  • You never change a winning team (if it ain't broke, don't fix it)...

  • no no no no no no no no no no no stop ruining everything i believe in

  • I still don't see it..........

    xD

  • They still had to re-drawn it so who cares...

  • All animation is tracing.

  • What is the song called?

    Is it 'Ding Dong the Witch is dead' in french?

    If so, does somebody know by who it's performed?

    Muchas gracias!

  • excellent cinematography by the creator of this deal.

  • This is silly.

    

  • this was mainly because the robin hood movie had a very low budget

  • So?

  • It's things like this that caused so many animators to leave disney in the 60's and 70's (namely Don Bluth).. the lowered quality in animation. This is an embarrassment to the house of mouse.

  • I think that the most important thing that an observer should take from this is how sophisticated Snow White's more subtle animations are in comparison to, say, Disney's Robin Hood.

  • I'm less shocked by the repetition than by the sheer amount of Disney you would have to watch to put this video together.

  • Even if they do reuse the basic skeletal structure of the cartoon sequence, they still have to recolor and design each panel to fit with the "new" movie scene. It's still a lot of work.

  • @moygo2 about as much work as redrawing cartoons, something an amateur can do in an hour.

  • @moygo2 A lot of work, yes. But still a lot less. Not that I really mind.

  • i dont understand, what is the point of this video?

  • @XxClemsonTigersXx it was showing how disney has repeated itself in movies

  • this is so cool and funny.

    i bet it was just the same artists for all those shows so they didnt bather fixing a working formula.

  • i muted its music, and played slipknot.

  • Very interesting

  • Isso acontece mesmo! São desenhos antigos, feitos à mão. Ótima edição. - That happens. Its old cartoons, made by hand. Great edition. =]

  • my childhood has been raped

  • "Identity theft is not a joke Jim. Millions of families are affected each year! Michael. Micheal!"

  • Saving money or not, Disney movies are all the same anyway...

  • No, the old, original, animated Disney movies are the best. Like Robin Hood, Lion King, Balto and all that. Today's Disney is shit.

  • @Heemsah1 Those ones are just copies of the same concept used in different ways for each movie. The good Disney is the really OLD Disney. The Disney of black and white mickey mouse! That was good!

  • @Heemsah1 Balto was never Disney. It belong to Universal Studios

  • Don't care, I still love my classic Disney movies. :D

  • Oh Dam This Vid Had Me Trippin Balls:PP

  • disneys logic : Don't fix if it's not broken

  • I wouldn't have noticed lol Also, I think the video would of been better if it was a side by side. =)

  • What!? You mean they saved money in unnoticeable ways to create more enjoyable movies!? Unbelievable.

  • WE KNOW IT SAVES MONEY? LIKE OMG, HE MERRILY POSTED THIS AS A SORT OF "FUN FACT", get the f*ck out of here.

  • awsome!

    

  • Thanks for the entertainment.....ahhh the memories this brings back. Yeah I noticed the copying alot from Jungle Book to Robin Hood. The rest of it...like someone else said, similar situations and saving money on the cost of a movie. Besides, ALL the princesses in a ballgown will always dance the waltz with their prince and do it in that graceful, heavenly way. Thats just how Disney royalty works.

  • so what...it saves time and money to do this

  • A few of those were just simply similar situations, but most of them indeed look like either they intentionally copied from previous releases or they used the same rotoscope sources.

  • save time and money on production

  • ahhhh dude, that shit happens all the time in movies. It's to save money.

  • who cares if they reused scenes, they still are all great movies! SO WHO CARES!

  • wow...

    

  • Repeating animation saves on cost of the movie. Yes, animation is a BIG cost in movie making.

  • SERIOUSLY !

  • this music is the worst. thumbs up if you agree

  • @wertzustellung I loved the music!!!

  • I'm 26 and I'm happy to say I enjoyed every minute of these movies.... I don't care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • i trained in hand drawn animation. Did you know it takes 12 drawings per SECOND of movement? Thats 720 individual drawings per minute. Im sad that its all CGI these days. Ok, this is repetitive, but I suppose Disney thought if it was popular why not use it again? And to be honest you woudlnt notice unless you were a HUGE disney freak type fan (like me lol) but regardless of what was done, hand drawn animation takes a lifetime to do, and it still takes talent to draw like that.

  • @gothgirlofdespair1 Classic Disney animation is 24 drawings per second, not 12. 12 or less is considered limited animation, more in tune with the old Hanna-Barbera or Jay Ward offerings.

  • @gothgirlofdespair1 i agree

  • @gothgirlofdespair1 3d animation is just as hard buddy you have to draw but you cant use pencil and paer you have to use a cursor pad and a computer it took 11 years to finish gnomeo and juilete 11 years and disney is fucked up idc what u say because disney tried to merge with pixar for years and offerd billlions upon billons of dollards to the pixar owner to merge he refused and sudenly he shows up dead in a freak car accident and disney magicly manages to get pixar studios what say u to tht

  • @gothgirlofdespair1 60 drawings per second, actually. 3600 per minute.

  • @YourAverageJoey No, no, you actually need over 10 per second only, though to make a completely clear and HQ animation, over 30 frames/drawings are needed per second.

  • there's also where mogli was licked by the wolves in jungle book & wart being licked by the dogs in the sword and the stone. & in the rescuers there was a doe and her fawn in the swamp that was the same movements as bambi & his mother

  • This is amazing,,, Do you haters know how hard it is to redraw the same movement for different characters and make it this accurate? FUCKING HARD... This is amazing o-o sooo inspired...♥

  • disney sucks

  • 0:15

    That bear possesses the rinnegan !

  • I feel cheated out of my childhood

  • @93siguy Is that because your daddy made you suck his peepee ?

  • @Fuzzy192006 faggot

  • @93siguy you need to remember all these movies were hand drawn give them a break

  • @93siguy i have a big dick, your argument is invalid

  • @93siguy agreed =,=;;

  • Who cares????

    

  • this makes me miss old disney films

  • @Boxerfanjoe its just funny to notice. So calm down troll.

  • It is harder o make more animation films in the same way as the earlier few. Disney did this to stay within a budget. Some action films today use cheap stock footage and a rubbish script on a huge budget to get mediocre actors to star in them. Cut Disney some slack.

  • I never noticed, but it was made SOMEHOW, right?!?!

  • Yeah, so they reuse animations. Those clips still took a lot more talent to make then you'll ever have.

  • They're not reusing the same cells, they're reusing the same timing and poses.  The animators still had to draw each cell. Timing and posing is very, very, time consuming. Often the animator is acting in a mirror to watch how many times they blink, open their eyes, facial expression, eyebrows, and the way their hair moves.

    There is nothing wrong with reusing, especially on a tight budget. However this video is interesting and proves that Disney animators are brilliant.

  • so copy!

  • In the 80's disney cut funding for their animation studio's due to financial difficulties, so you can notice how they referenced past movies in scenes and had less quality.

  • when they were animating robin hood, they did it on a low budget so it was the same on purpose cause they had to reference footage from previous movies

  • what's the song?

    

  • LOLZ Never noticed it! They're so lazy to make new dance movements >_<

  • @CircusPuppy Lazy??? You obviously have no clue how long and hard it is to draw something like that. They used the same references but they still had to draw everything different!

  • I get that the dancing of the prince and ~ss dancing was the same... obviously... dance moves never really change

  • I think thats really cool . It shows that they are smart enough to re use their drawings in such ways that we wont even notice .

  • How do you copy and paste a let's say a paused picture from a youtube video, or from a game website, (The Game?) PLEASEN HELP!!! Respond to this comment! :")

  • @Prettygi5rl The "PrtScn" button

  • @NaotoNekoCutie Thanks!

  • @Prettygi5rl No Probs.

  • 0:13 that bear has the rinnegan!

  • @mike190 Or, if you spell it right, a Furry.

  • this is a fun watch. This happens in the art world much more than people realize. Probably even more so with digital art. Hiring a key frame artist is much more expensive then the artists who do the frames between the keyframes. Instead they could save money and time by taking the old frames and redo them with new characters.

  • :(

  • I have this on mute and the grateful dead playing and it is as if all the characters are dancing to it! haha