This story line would make one fantastic spin-off of OLTL. Come on Network, wake up and "smell" one of the best stories that any Soap has ever had the balls to put before the American public. Millions of Americans (gay/straight) OLTL became loyal fans because of Fish and Kyle: it was real life! Gays are real people too, with real problems, joys and love; all a part of our culture and who we call ourselves as Americans. 'Nuff said.
I've been a long time viewer and i had have been tuning in everyday just for kish, i can't believe they're gonna be phased out. Sad to say, but after they go i for one won't be tuning in any longer....
What the hell?! Oltl has been pissing me off for a while, but getting rid of kish is the last straw. Kish is the only reason i warch this show, but once they leave i am done with this show. Oltl get rid of kish and see how your ratings die. As thr world turns isn't the only show that's gonna get cancelled in the future.
I'm so sad that KISH is leaving the only reason I watch OLTL is because of them. and now they are taking away the only good thing that happens to that soap opera.
What bothers me, even more than the fact that the powers-that-be don't seem to care about us, is that they don't respect Brett and Scott and the amount of soul they have put into their roles.
My hope is that even if we can't get the decision about the boys reversed, Kish will get a proper, well-written exit rather than a push out the back door. The producers at least owe us that!
I also wouldn't be surprised if Cris and Layla (the only other couple I liked) are the next to get chopped.
From Scott's Twitter Page - "Such a bummer what all of this is turning into. I will continue to respect the decision but will remain unhappy with the tactics"
Oh gsd!! Just realized they haven;t kissed in forever. When was the last time?? it's all adding up now. Less scenes, less kissing, story switchin. We've been duped!
the rally will be in front of the oltl studios in nyc on march 26 but i dont what time its starts so you ever in nyc and is a kish fan show up and be heard
@mickey13f You rock! :) This was planned to coincide with GOOL so that lovely people like yourself could join in! Check "more info" on this video for the link with all the info. Thanks for helping out!
as a straight female i love fish and kyle .i have stopped watching oltl when i heard they let them go i will be writing another letter tomorrow .any body in nyc they are have a rally for kyle and fish on march 26 .i dont knew where but go on soaps . com and go to the message board for oltl and there where it tells you .i wont watch until they come back
I want to encourage people to be polite with their voice mail messages...remember, as soon as someone starts talking rudely to someone else, usually that persons turns you right off!
This is ridiculous, failed to resonate with the mainstream audience? WTH, it's the writers that failed to resonate and give good storyline, Why not fire them and hire new ones.
I've sent a couple of emails to ABC - not enough space to write the complaint in one go. Hopefully they'll have/be receiving many complaints and the power of the ppl (ie the fans) will result in a positive outcome.
I've been watching OLTL since the 90s but now I'm done. I loved OLTL because its 1 of the only soaps to show REAL diversity (race, ages, religion, sexual orentation, etc.) I was so excited when Kish came and how well the writers intergraded their storyline. BUT THIS IS BULLSHIT! I've made the call and wrote the email but once Kish is gone so am I.
This is absolutely RIDICULOUS move by the producer(s)! I just e-mailed ABC, so we'll see what will happen... Hopefully if they get enough complaints about dropping Kish, he will reconsider? I agree that ratings will PLUMMET because I know that I only watch the show for Kish scenes. They are dismissing a gay couple like a majority of society does on a daily basis. This is a complete idiotic move on their part. Scott and Brett, we are going to do everything we can to keep Kish going!!!!
I am so pissed! So much for my thinking ABC was a progressive company. They are just like all the other conservatives. But guess what....they want to talk about "mainstream", I am "mainstream" and they just LOST A VIEWER. COWARDS!!
OK so by "MAINSTREAM AUDIENCE" they mean - straight female aged between 20 and 70 ? Give this comment a "thumbs up" if you fit into that category. I think the producers of the show would be very surprised !
@connectmoi i know i sure do;-) to say they hadn't resonated with the mainstream audience is complete BS! i fell in love with KISH, they completely consumed me with their love, affection, caring, and trust. i am pissed off to the 100th power. i've been emailing like fool and gonna write them a**holes a "nice" letter. either they change their mind or watch the ratings do a back flip!
I would like to say a BIG thank you to Frank Valentini for making the worst decision of his career, I only watch this show for KISH, you thought your ratings were bad then??? Just wait and see how far they drop when you kick KISH out!!! Absolute loser, and NO I wont be watching again!!
I just read the article and they are going to just make them drop out of sight. Wouldn't all those homophobic idiots out there like to do the same to real life gay couples - NARROW MINDED IDIOTS !!
speaking as one half of a gay couple, I agree with you. I'm so bummed today. They are "regular" guys, like most real life gay guys, and I thought maybe it would further acceptance of us,.. I hope it's had some effect. I know it's silly, but I found out at 2am, and wasn't able to sleep the rest of the night. They gave me something to cling to. I'm leaving ABC in the dust.
well i cant stop crying - I can hardly see what I am typing - its so wrong and unfair to us but most importantly those two fantastic actors - so sorry Brett and Scott :( but we'll see what we can do for you.
plz plz plz someone tell me, its just my stupid dream! never happened in real...NO? okay, means i have to say WTF???
i cant believe thats happend like this suddenly!!!! nope, i knew it! i knew it!!! because this is AMERICA daytime soap.
f**k sake! Kish is the only reason ive been wathing OLTL even i am in Japan, and also ive been trying to make Japanese Kish fan via my blog...but now, what can i do?
i am really sorry for Scott and Brett. they are great actors, so deserve to be better!
i'm very disappointed with ABC and OLTL. I was introduced to OLTL because of the Kyle and Oliver storyline, then I became interested in others and now i watch the whole show. With ALL the story lines!! They are going to loose me as a viewer now and i'm sure many others for this. Kyle and Oliver's story was brilliant and was just getting started-beautifully and was very truthful. Their acting was brilliant and there are just no right words to explain how shocked and devastated i am. bye ABC!!
i started watching for kish like you, and also fell in love with the rest of the show. so it sucks enormously that i won't be able to watch it anymore. but why get invested when they're just going to hack up characters i love and then make them disappear? whatever, oltl. guess i'm just not "mainstream" enough for you. enjoy your plummeting ratings.
I'm through with the show and ABC as well. Sponsors of all programs will know why. When will the US wake up and join the majority of democratic nations and stop ostracizing gays? KISH is the MOST realistic portrayal of real gay life. I'm completely discouraged and let down. As a gay male, it hurts me to see yet another attempt at acceptance by the general public fail. Good bye ABC. I'm through with you.
@prowlamongus im a straight female and this sickens me! KISH is the only reason i watched the show. i have been emailing like crazy trying to get my anger and frustration across. not giving up without a fight! LONG LIVE KISH!!!
Stunned, devastated, shocked, these are the words that discribe my feelings. The best storyline ever on daytime television and played by the most wonderful actors ever!! What is wrong with ABC, and blame them for the ratings??? That sucks and I have no words for it!!! Scott and Brett made OLTL international and now they have to go??? Beyond words, beyond!!! Totally hate ABC!!!
Hi there this is really unbelievable, I just watch the show because the guys are gr8. Just send a comment to ABC to complain about this! Hope they will rethink what they are doing. I want to say the guys are the best actors in these serie. Will send another complaint to the other adresses. Greetings from Amsterdam Holland
Soooo I'm guessing this means we won't see them become the first gay parents on daytime now will we! This is so stupid! They're the ONLY reason I watch this show! Ergggg!
This is definitely an outrage! I was just starting to really like Kyle and Oliver.
I feel bad for them getting the boot, but even more sad for Scott Evans (Oliver Fish) who never saw it coming.
from what they are saying, the boys will be off the canvas by mid-April. But I'm sure if Kish fans raise enough hell, maybe ABC and OLTL will rethink their decision. IF they don't, this show may very well be cancelled by the end of this year.
also, i know that as the world turns has been cancelled, but Luke has been on the show for years! and he and noah have been on for over 2 years! i don't see those writers blaming the gay couple for problems with ratings!
it seems really convenient that Kyle and Oliver's storyline was on when the ratings just happened to go down. who says it had nothing to do with the holiday season or other storylines? even with the guys only on 2 days out of the week, it just has to be their fault?
they are the only reason i watch OLTL and i will stop if they leave. this is so ridiculous. maybe i shouldn't have gotten so attached to a fictional couple, but i loved getting to see them interact.
this is the stupidest thing EVER. ABC, USED our guys, to get their ratings higher, and when that failed they fired them! - The media found out before BC + SE did... NEVER AGAIN, WILL I WATCH ABC. April, i'm gone.
It took me a while, but I wrote out a message and phoned them only I spoke waaaayyy too fast. I hope they at least made out the "Please don't cancel Kyle and Oliver" part.
This is quite strange. I just read the article which states that it doesn't mean that pair will leave the show. So what is the result? They break up? I can't believe that considering the show is making it look live Oliver now has a daughter. I just hope I still have access to smuchshypush's previous clips of Kish! What is wrong with this show? After watching all the German soaps, I was glad to finally watch an American one!
Actually, the article just says that the couple won't be leaving Llanview, meaning that they won't be leaving town when they exit the show. The characters will technically still live in Llanview, but they won't be a part of the show- you know, so that they can't offend people with their love and devotion... EPIC FAIL!!!
omg, WHAT! are you kidding me, no, f**k that, i'm going to the site right now and i'm sending an email and calling cause i'm ready to raise some hell, their not cancelling the most interesting couple on this show as far as i'm concerned, kish is the only reason i watch this damn show, i love kish and we already have to deal with nuke leaving in september, now kish too, no way, not if can help it, its not right
hey everyone, this worked for me, please let me know if it worked for you! and share any other contact info you have in the comments. we're organizing it all over at Kishmet (link under "more info"), check there for updates
@smuchshypush hello i am from holland stupid why how can I react please let us know if we can make a difference nuke is cancelled now this what is wrong.
This story line would make one fantastic spin-off of OLTL. Come on Network, wake up and "smell" one of the best stories that any Soap has ever had the balls to put before the American public. Millions of Americans (gay/straight) OLTL became loyal fans because of Fish and Kyle: it was real life! Gays are real people too, with real problems, joys and love; all a part of our culture and who we call ourselves as Americans. 'Nuff said.
09WestTexas 5 months ago
THEY CAN'T DO THAT!!!!
THESE GUYS ARE THE BEST!!!!!!
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nottsguy33 9 months ago
but wat is the exact reason that they took Kish out from the soap? may i know? i love Kish too.
thoreric86 1 year ago
I've been a long time viewer and i had have been tuning in everyday just for kish, i can't believe they're gonna be phased out. Sad to say, but after they go i for one won't be tuning in any longer....
DjBlueJ54 1 year ago 2
What the hell?! Oltl has been pissing me off for a while, but getting rid of kish is the last straw. Kish is the only reason i warch this show, but once they leave i am done with this show. Oltl get rid of kish and see how your ratings die. As thr world turns isn't the only show that's gonna get cancelled in the future.
marcalu 1 year ago 2
i called don't know if i got my point across but atleast that is one more person who they know they r not happy
iwctusml 1 year ago
I'm so sad that KISH is leaving the only reason I watch OLTL is because of them. and now they are taking away the only good thing that happens to that soap opera.
maravilla100 1 year ago
What bothers me, even more than the fact that the powers-that-be don't seem to care about us, is that they don't respect Brett and Scott and the amount of soul they have put into their roles.
My hope is that even if we can't get the decision about the boys reversed, Kish will get a proper, well-written exit rather than a push out the back door. The producers at least owe us that!
I also wouldn't be surprised if Cris and Layla (the only other couple I liked) are the next to get chopped.
srayj 1 year ago 6
From Scott's Twitter Page - "Such a bummer what all of this is turning into. I will continue to respect the decision but will remain unhappy with the tactics"
WELL SAID SCOTT
chillbree 1 year ago 4
Oh gsd!! Just realized they haven;t kissed in forever. When was the last time?? it's all adding up now. Less scenes, less kissing, story switchin. We've been duped!
abaylor22 1 year ago
They haven't kissed since the 15th January !! Ridiculous ! and we (and Scott and Brett too it seems) fell for it !
chillbree 1 year ago
Very simple, Oliver and Kyle are done. I am done. If they leave. I stop watching.
kaidvilbliss 1 year ago 15
the rally will be in front of the oltl studios in nyc on march 26 but i dont what time its starts so you ever in nyc and is a kish fan show up and be heard
mscubsfan 1 year ago
wow what a coincidence thats the same day as the gays of lives event in nyc. I am traveling all the way from CA so I will definitely be there
mickey13f 1 year ago
@mickey13f You rock! :) This was planned to coincide with GOOL so that lovely people like yourself could join in! Check "more info" on this video for the link with all the info. Thanks for helping out!
smuchshypush 1 year ago
I am going too! See you there, however not getting into NYC until 3:00 pm, so no rally for me. Can't wait to see Scott in 3-D!
connectmoi 1 year ago
@connectmoi I'm coming in the day before to visit fam
mickey13f 1 year ago
as a straight female i love fish and kyle .i have stopped watching oltl when i heard they let them go i will be writing another letter tomorrow .any body in nyc they are have a rally for kyle and fish on march 26 .i dont knew where but go on soaps . com and go to the message board for oltl and there where it tells you .i wont watch until they come back
mscubsfan 1 year ago
I want to encourage people to be polite with their voice mail messages...remember, as soon as someone starts talking rudely to someone else, usually that persons turns you right off!
PABWECG 1 year ago 4
This is ridiculous, failed to resonate with the mainstream audience? WTH, it's the writers that failed to resonate and give good storyline, Why not fire them and hire new ones.
xuantian81 1 year ago 2
Forgot to add, thanks smuchshypush for providing the info to make our complaints.
babydollies 1 year ago
I've sent a couple of emails to ABC - not enough space to write the complaint in one go. Hopefully they'll have/be receiving many complaints and the power of the ppl (ie the fans) will result in a positive outcome.
babydollies 1 year ago
I've been watching OLTL since the 90s but now I'm done. I loved OLTL because its 1 of the only soaps to show REAL diversity (race, ages, religion, sexual orentation, etc.) I was so excited when Kish came and how well the writers intergraded their storyline. BUT THIS IS BULLSHIT! I've made the call and wrote the email but once Kish is gone so am I.
mickey13f 1 year ago
This is absolutely RIDICULOUS move by the producer(s)! I just e-mailed ABC, so we'll see what will happen... Hopefully if they get enough complaints about dropping Kish, he will reconsider? I agree that ratings will PLUMMET because I know that I only watch the show for Kish scenes. They are dismissing a gay couple like a majority of society does on a daily basis. This is a complete idiotic move on their part. Scott and Brett, we are going to do everything we can to keep Kish going!!!!
anewbauer237 1 year ago
@connectmoi....you are correct, they are fools and cowards!! And, Valenti is at the top of the list.
millimilla823 1 year ago
I am so pissed! So much for my thinking ABC was a progressive company. They are just like all the other conservatives. But guess what....they want to talk about "mainstream", I am "mainstream" and they just LOST A VIEWER. COWARDS!!
millimilla823 1 year ago 3
I called. Takes no time. Do it, people!
granthor219 1 year ago 6
OK so by "MAINSTREAM AUDIENCE" they mean - straight female aged between 20 and 70 ? Give this comment a "thumbs up" if you fit into that category. I think the producers of the show would be very surprised !
chillbree 1 year ago 27
I think a lot of 'straight' females love to see gay couples... unless they are super conservative. The producers are fools!
connectmoi 1 year ago 6
@connectmoi i know i sure do;-) to say they hadn't resonated with the mainstream audience is complete BS! i fell in love with KISH, they completely consumed me with their love, affection, caring, and trust. i am pissed off to the 100th power. i've been emailing like fool and gonna write them a**holes a "nice" letter. either they change their mind or watch the ratings do a back flip!
krazykay17 1 year ago
@chillbree rite here: 21 year old straight female! and rite about now my viewership will be lost when KISH leaves!
krazykay17 1 year ago
Unbelievable! I will write & e-mail. If/when Kish is dropped, ratings will plummet! Guaranteed! Short-sighted idiots!
connectmoi 1 year ago
I would like to say a BIG thank you to Frank Valentini for making the worst decision of his career, I only watch this show for KISH, you thought your ratings were bad then??? Just wait and see how far they drop when you kick KISH out!!! Absolute loser, and NO I wont be watching again!!
YorkkieGuy 1 year ago 6
I just read the article and they are going to just make them drop out of sight. Wouldn't all those homophobic idiots out there like to do the same to real life gay couples - NARROW MINDED IDIOTS !!
chillbree 1 year ago 3
speaking as one half of a gay couple, I agree with you. I'm so bummed today. They are "regular" guys, like most real life gay guys, and I thought maybe it would further acceptance of us,.. I hope it's had some effect. I know it's silly, but I found out at 2am, and wasn't able to sleep the rest of the night. They gave me something to cling to. I'm leaving ABC in the dust.
prowlamongus 1 year ago 6
well i cant stop crying - I can hardly see what I am typing - its so wrong and unfair to us but most importantly those two fantastic actors - so sorry Brett and Scott :( but we'll see what we can do for you.
chillbree 1 year ago 6
plz plz plz someone tell me, its just my stupid dream! never happened in real...NO? okay, means i have to say WTF???
i cant believe thats happend like this suddenly!!!! nope, i knew it! i knew it!!! because this is AMERICA daytime soap.
f**k sake! Kish is the only reason ive been wathing OLTL even i am in Japan, and also ive been trying to make Japanese Kish fan via my blog...but now, what can i do?
i am really sorry for Scott and Brett. they are great actors, so deserve to be better!
yukiyoshi94 1 year ago 2
well this is SHOCKING!
i cannot believe this!like WHY WHY!!i love them so much,they are the reason why i watch this show!!!
s0intoyou 1 year ago
i'm very disappointed with ABC and OLTL. I was introduced to OLTL because of the Kyle and Oliver storyline, then I became interested in others and now i watch the whole show. With ALL the story lines!! They are going to loose me as a viewer now and i'm sure many others for this. Kyle and Oliver's story was brilliant and was just getting started-beautifully and was very truthful. Their acting was brilliant and there are just no right words to explain how shocked and devastated i am. bye ABC!!
rainygreygirl26 1 year ago 7
i started watching for kish like you, and also fell in love with the rest of the show. so it sucks enormously that i won't be able to watch it anymore. but why get invested when they're just going to hack up characters i love and then make them disappear? whatever, oltl. guess i'm just not "mainstream" enough for you. enjoy your plummeting ratings.
smuchshypush 1 year ago 4
I'm through with the show and ABC as well. Sponsors of all programs will know why. When will the US wake up and join the majority of democratic nations and stop ostracizing gays? KISH is the MOST realistic portrayal of real gay life. I'm completely discouraged and let down. As a gay male, it hurts me to see yet another attempt at acceptance by the general public fail. Good bye ABC. I'm through with you.
prowlamongus 1 year ago 5
@prowlamongus im a straight female and this sickens me! KISH is the only reason i watched the show. i have been emailing like crazy trying to get my anger and frustration across. not giving up without a fight! LONG LIVE KISH!!!
krazykay17 1 year ago 3
Stunned, devastated, shocked, these are the words that discribe my feelings. The best storyline ever on daytime television and played by the most wonderful actors ever!! What is wrong with ABC, and blame them for the ratings??? That sucks and I have no words for it!!! Scott and Brett made OLTL international and now they have to go??? Beyond words, beyond!!! Totally hate ABC!!!
DuKyno26 1 year ago 3
Hi there this is really unbelievable, I just watch the show because the guys are gr8. Just send a comment to ABC to complain about this! Hope they will rethink what they are doing. I want to say the guys are the best actors in these serie. Will send another complaint to the other adresses. Greetings from Amsterdam Holland
Kwebbel48 1 year ago
Soooo I'm guessing this means we won't see them become the first gay parents on daytime now will we! This is so stupid! They're the ONLY reason I watch this show! Ergggg!
srayj 1 year ago
This is definitely an outrage! I was just starting to really like Kyle and Oliver.
I feel bad for them getting the boot, but even more sad for Scott Evans (Oliver Fish) who never saw it coming.
from what they are saying, the boys will be off the canvas by mid-April. But I'm sure if Kish fans raise enough hell, maybe ABC and OLTL will rethink their decision. IF they don't, this show may very well be cancelled by the end of this year.
ShawnActor 1 year ago 2
also, i know that as the world turns has been cancelled, but Luke has been on the show for years! and he and noah have been on for over 2 years! i don't see those writers blaming the gay couple for problems with ratings!
it seems really convenient that Kyle and Oliver's storyline was on when the ratings just happened to go down. who says it had nothing to do with the holiday season or other storylines? even with the guys only on 2 days out of the week, it just has to be their fault?
gclover916 1 year ago 3
they are the only reason i watch OLTL and i will stop if they leave. this is so ridiculous. maybe i shouldn't have gotten so attached to a fictional couple, but i loved getting to see them interact.
gclover916 1 year ago 4
omg, i can`t believe that kish couple will leave the show. are you kidding me? plz~~~ do not cancel. this is not good decision.
thunupa71 1 year ago
That is the stupidest thing ever!
ditaesther816 1 year ago
this is the stupidest thing EVER. ABC, USED our guys, to get their ratings higher, and when that failed they fired them! - The media found out before BC + SE did... NEVER AGAIN, WILL I WATCH ABC. April, i'm gone.
oldschoolxx 1 year ago
Of course they would kill off the best television gay couple ever existed...
They better reveal if Fish is the father before the characters are dropped or I will kick some serious ABC ass.
gwenwoundmeup92 1 year ago 3
@gwenwoundmeup92 i just read that something will be revealed this month, i know more but i dont wish to spoil anything
luvulots17 1 year ago
It took me a while, but I wrote out a message and phoned them only I spoke waaaayyy too fast. I hope they at least made out the "Please don't cancel Kyle and Oliver" part.
berrybananaz 1 year ago
Good going girl!! I'm on KISHMET and will do something to support KISH!
KETTYKISH 1 year ago
This is quite strange. I just read the article which states that it doesn't mean that pair will leave the show. So what is the result? They break up? I can't believe that considering the show is making it look live Oliver now has a daughter. I just hope I still have access to smuchshypush's previous clips of Kish! What is wrong with this show? After watching all the German soaps, I was glad to finally watch an American one!
LondonNano 1 year ago
Actually, the article just says that the couple won't be leaving Llanview, meaning that they won't be leaving town when they exit the show. The characters will technically still live in Llanview, but they won't be a part of the show- you know, so that they can't offend people with their love and devotion... EPIC FAIL!!!
jquinn15 1 year ago 3
omg, WHAT! are you kidding me, no, f**k that, i'm going to the site right now and i'm sending an email and calling cause i'm ready to raise some hell, their not cancelling the most interesting couple on this show as far as i'm concerned, kish is the only reason i watch this damn show, i love kish and we already have to deal with nuke leaving in september, now kish too, no way, not if can help it, its not right
lovelydiva06 1 year ago 3
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. It sounds more like a chicken cop out than an informed choice.
eleanor7 1 year ago
omgg are they forreal?????
jasamforevernalways 1 year ago
WHAT!
xoMrsWentzxo 1 year ago
Left a message and am sending an email now... This is utterly ridiculous!!!!
jquinn15 1 year ago
I wrote to them through their website.
erginakif 1 year ago
I live in canada. Is there a number I can call?
oldschoolxx 1 year ago
hey everyone, this worked for me, please let me know if it worked for you! and share any other contact info you have in the comments. we're organizing it all over at Kishmet (link under "more info"), check there for updates
smuchshypush 1 year ago
@smuchshypush hello i am from holland stupid why how can I react please let us know if we can make a difference nuke is cancelled now this what is wrong.
hharend 1 year ago