JUST FYI, THE USER KNOWN AS cantonear1968 IS A KNOWN SHILL. HE'S ON THESE 9/11 PAGES 7 DAYS A WEEK SPREADING DISINFORMATION ABOUT THE EVENTS OF 9/11/01. LIKE OTHER SHILLS HE CLAIMS TO BE AN "EXPERT", HE IS 100% FULL OF CRAP & CAN'T BE TAKEN AT HIS WORD. HE IS NOTHING MORE THAN A DISINFORMATION PUSHER. HE WILL ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT ANY RESEARCH & RESEARCHERS NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE OFFICIAL STORY & WILL ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT THE TRUTH MOVEMENT AS A WHOLE
I'm not a de-bunker, I actually do believe a conspiracy was involved with 9/11 but the notion flight 93 was shot down makes no sense for those who believe it was an inside job. It it was an inside job then why shoot it down and actually protect the country? Why not let it hit it's target like the other three planes? If you believe 93 was shot down, then you believe it was not an inside job. If they shot it down why hide it? Why not take credit for saving the capitol being hit?
This video actually supports the shoot down theory. At some point the aircraft was flying forward at speed and with the wind. If it was shot and hit in the air at flying altitude and then nose dived to the ground like the impact crator shows, the lighter debree created would still be at some speed and would continue forward from that point of impact and be pushed even further by the wind in the same direction it was traveling and not reverse direction and go backwards against the wind.
"MY BROTHER N LAW SAID" Man that is some made up shit. You should be ashamed. If I had a nickle for everytime Ive heard someone say some shit like that, idiots would be occupying my house...
Nice work. Truthers are some nut jobs. Everything is a conspiracy. One question that blows a hole in their lil conspiracies: Why didnt we find WMD's in Iraq?? The mighty Bush Chaney couldnt plant some to keep the fascism going? If ALL that happened was an inside job, why did we not find wmds & keep on rolling? That should have been the easy part. Ask yourselves.
@dnahulvey Finding WMD's was only relevent untill the invasion began as a reason to invade. After that finding them doesnt matter, we couldn't Un-Invade Iraq. theres no need to plant anything. Do you also believe 19 cave dwelling arabs got lucky and out smarted the worlds best intelligence service and air defence system four times in 1 day? The same intelligence system that fucked up the WMD intell. Is the CIA run by the three stooges and can't get anything right? Probably not. Think.
My brother-in-law was a in the airforce at the time he was ordered in the air but wasnt part of actually following any of the planes just on call. But heard it was shot down through the chain. Since he was practically there im gonna stick with that.
This vid is bull shit! Ensuing heat? What heat? No jet fuel was found by the EPA! Is this music suppose to make people believe this crap? Joke! Guys, you have been punked!
how come the people who took control of the plane from the terrorists didn't try to land it but instead delibrately just have it go straight to the ground? i would've tried to land it. no offense to anyone involved in this tragedy!!!!
@Jesse2K12 ifyour a conspiracy theorist than no. if not than i recommend watching news reports. seeing articles on this incident, or even going to Wikipedia and typing in Fleight 93.
@TheMostAwesomeMan242 I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and according to wikipedia passengers attempted to recapture united 93 but failed because the hijackers crashed united 93 into the ground. I don't see any evidence that the passengers recaptured the plane and then deliberately crashed united 93 into the ground.
Thanks for explaining this... My father ( aircraft mechanic for United) knew Cee Cee Lyles ( fyi she was a flight attendant, not a passenger ) and I was clueless about flight 93. This made it clear to me.
@Gazbait ... Well I have seen the pictures and It's nothing more than all the pictures that I have already seen. SO I still say AGAIN that all of this is inconsistant with the damage that should have been left behind. Nothing adds up no matter how many different ways you look at it, at ALL the crash sites. FUEL and fire takes down 3 buildings and helps the collaspe of WTC7, Skanksville is barely smouldering, if you believe that the heat was so intence to melt steal, HOW in the hell do people
@Gazbait .. CONT ... run in and out of the Pentagon to rescue others. The plane at Shanksville was upside down and at a 40 angle, so how did a tail section almost 4 to 5 stories high not make a mark on the ground, the imprint would suggest it was vertical when it went in. 165ft of plane, SURELY there should have been an imprint of the tail at that angle or at the very least a scar of some discription
@lascienvacas...... NO ..... What I'm saying is that 3 sets of landing gear 10 wheels and tyres , some 230 odd seats 2 engines, the external frame, insulation etc,etc,etc don't just VANISH. Hitting at that speed the ground is going to compact rapidly ( to the point where even soil will act like concrete ) If everything is made from the same materials and hit at the same time, you cant dig up part of an engine and not find 4 wheels and the landing gear buried along side it or near it
@Gazbait ....... 4 Aircraft, all hitting different objects, but throwing up the same pieces of wreckage. Pretty much nothing survived at all 4 apart from An engine ( WTC, Pentagon, Skanksville ) A wheel ( skanksville, WTC, Pentagon ) documentation of people on board ( Skanksville, WTC, Pentagon ) and other smaller pieces of debris. All the strike areas are going to put up different resistances, so how can the wreckage and debris fields be the same
SHOT DOWN OR NOT, that doesn't explain why one engine was found in the ground ( they should have also found the landing gear near that ) one engine rolled or bounced 900ft, debris was carried away by wind but hardly any paper, clothing, or insulation is visable nearer to the crash site ( Just like the lawn at the Pentagon ) Although some pieces were found. Same plane punches through 3 rings of re-enforced concrete and leaves a hole, 93 hits the ground and then kindly cover's itself in earth
@MrRationalOptimist Not saying that I am one who believes it was shot down, but your question of what would it matter?
What would it matter if your government lied to you about killing civilians (even for a reason of saving more civilians)? Really is that a question you need to ask? Thanks to 9/11 we have lost what our country was all about, which was EXACTLY what they wanted to happen.
unlawful search and seizures, wire taps, holding people with out bail for years, kill lists w/ US citz
hell i don't know what to believe anymore, some people say it was shot down, others deny it, dick cheney admits that it was shot down, but other officials deny it, u know, ten years later and we couldn't even officially figure out what happened on 9/11 JESUS THATS FRUSTERATING!
Even if it was shot down how does it in anyway contribute to a conspiracy? In fact the opposite would be true. If all the hijackings on the day were an "inside job" why wasn't the plane allowed to fly to Washington? This "shot down" idea doesn't even fit with the general conspiracy argument. Do you "truthers" believe every 9/11 conspiracy regardless whether they contradict each other? Additionally the president never ever denied that it would have been shot down if it was necessary.
its just funny to me how our government goes to such extremes to hide things and keep secrets from us. if they are telling the truth then why cant we hear the audio files from the plane and from the 911 calls? Obviously the investigation is over so lets go ahead and release the information they have. We as Americans need to stand up to our government officials and demand the truth, and the evidence to back it up.
@Erwincm33 The reason it has not been released is because of their fear that enough concrete evidence would be put together that they would have to re-open it. Well, their fears have come true. It took over 9 years of ignoring eyewitness testimony of the lies media try to sell and physics impossiblities from NIST but the FBI made the case alive and well again.Trolls are already back at unemployment lines,admitting were tired of spewing lies anyway
@Erwincm33 Pull your head out of your ass, the 911 calls are everywhere, in fact its hard to miss them, if you had typed, i know its hard, but type flight 93 911 calls, flitght 11 911 calls etc they would show up and you can listen to them, its called internet, kinda amazing isnt it?
So how is the reconstruction of the plane going? Oh wait there is none. Strange that, usually when a plane crashes they carefully collect all that bits left and reconstruct it in order to verify what caused it to crash, except here. Maybe too much was vaporized. 911, the day of the vaporizing effect!!!
At the end of the day the perps of 911 won't get caught but so that you can get a good idea who the cast of characters is type the following into You Tube search and try not to vomit when you watch the video:
you know as far as this one goes, considering the obvious lack of debris at the crash site, the shoot down explaination seems to support they 'non' cospiracy theory. What if they just covered up the shoot down, I mean they shot it down to protect people on the ground right?
@uewVumopVapIsVdn Dick Cheney admits to ordering the plane shot down in an interview. The official timeline states Cheney entered underground room 2 minutes before Pentagon hit. Why is our air defense system dependant on 3 people to give orders when those people aren't readily available for emergencies and take over an hour to respond. WTC1 hit at 8:46am. Pentagon hit at 9:39. Over an hour. The sole purpose of our government is to protect against enemies.
I would only consider this "debunk" if I have not heard with my own ears Rumsfeld accidentally admit it was "shot down over Pennsylvania". fucked that one up Rumsfeld, liars always slip up. You wouldn't accidentally say that if it didn't happen.
The most outrageous 9/11 conspiracy theories are always about United 93. They say it was shot down, they say it never took off, they say it landed safely, it makes a mockery of the whole tragedy.
@bernuga That's a common statement you conspiracy nuts use: you accuse us of believing the official story merely because it's the official story. You are delusional; just because they government says something doesn't automatically make it right OR wrong. You operate under the delusion that everything the government tells you is an outright lie, whereas we trust the testimony of real experts, both public and private. YOU'RE the sheep; a slightly different variety of sheep, but sheep nonetheless.
@cyanmanta c'mon monkey,there were questions to answer,why you moron don't answer?Cause u r a brainwashed sheep believer,that's why u can only insult,because you only have ridicolous theories to explain what happened on 9/11.People like u should die,victim's families are asking for a new and real investigation,but it seems that morons like u,even if u can't answer their questions,don't want to know the truth.Shame on u animal.come back with answers or open your mouth cause I'm gonna piss in.
@bernuga Why should I? YOU don't offer answers OR proof. Why should I dignify you with that which you are unwilling to give me? You have nothing but insults and self-righteous indignation to offer, and that makes you unworthy of my time.
now see heres the thing. like people who believe it was government or not, you dont know this for a fact. not saying i believe it was shot down. but one thing if you wernt there, then you have no idea. kinda like saying a missle hot the pentagon. YOU DONT KNOW. you just sit there and say. theirs no possible way? you can say you saw two planes hit the trade centers . theres proof of it. not in these cases. all you have is pieces of a plane and some pictures of some smoke. thats not de bunking.
@jakethe9th He has done a good job of providing near proof of what happened. 'Truthers' have no evidence of anything. 'WTC7 was demolished', 'there were bombs in WTC', 'there is no wreckage at the pentagon' etc etc. All of the theories have been adressed by experts, journalists and people who were there, who have shown clear evidence. He is presenting clear evidence for what happened, something that 'truthers' can't do.
@playuppompey01 on that day, NORAD was ordered to stand down. witch means our air defense system was told not to send up fighter jets. but on nation television. Donald Rumsfeld slipped up saying it had been shot down. go look for it your self.
maybe the paper and insulation was that far away because thats where it was shot first, witnesses saw a fighter jet right after the black cloud......hmmmm, let me be a dumb fuck and not research the truth, ill listen to msm and the gov't. You listen to everything that is shoved in your face by the govt ? get out of fantasy world that you lied to yourself about since birth
Whats the point? There are lies and truths mixed up. That makes and ongoing argument. The US government are dlways caught in lies. So they are liers. Thats how that works! Sorry.....!
There's a decent possibility this plane was shot down, but even if it really was, it would be just a defense action, like, shoot it down before it reaches a populated area. It has nothing to do with inside job silliness.
Can you do a video about debunking the claims that the video footage of the first plane and 2nd plane were fabricated? I'll email you the links as it doesn't seem to want to accept me putting them in here.
@yesiamawizardjonny He DID say it was shot down. There's video of him saying it. He said it was shot down and that goes against the official report. The govt. Can't keep their story straight.
@Derouin91 haha it is more blissfull (ignorant) to simply believe what the government says then to use your own commonsense.. which i dont think you have.
@mindfuckerification I've done extensive research on 9/11, and when did I ever say I just "believe" what the government says? By replying to this comment you're only further proving my point.
@yesiamawizardjonny youre an idot. They are just the dogs that carry out the main agenda. For gods sake your own government fucks you left and right and you want to kill "towelheads"WTF?? People like you make me want to leave this fucked country. Rumsfeld even said 93 was shot down, its on VIDEO look it up dumbass. Research the Gulf Of Tonkin our government isn't all peaches and cream.
@TheDirtball69 Nobody ever announced that 93 was shot down. If they did, that would be incriminating evidence and more than just "truthers" would "know" of a 911 coverup. Rumsfeld did no such thing, it's just you 911 conspiracy theorists taking things out of context and spinning everyone's words. Do you really think that Rumsfeld would say that only nobody would know about it?? haha. You make me laugh.
@TheDirtball69 So I checked out that video. Like I said, you guys took him out of context. He said the following in your terms: "The people... that shot down the plane over Pennsylvania."
In Real Terms: He said "IF" In fact he said "IF" twice. he is talking about the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, and did the bombing in spain...IF they attacked the US, NY and shot down 93 and attacked the pentagon.
@TheDirtball69 Rumsfeld said no such thing. There is no solid proof that the govt performed the September 11 attacks. I personally mathematically disproved the free-fall buildings theory to one of your cronies.
@yesiamawizardjonny watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0 theres the link, god your so stupid and lazy. Ha how to you people dismiss things that you dont even take time to look into. The sky isnt blue because I said so!! hahaha thats how you sound. Have you ever even been in any kind of higher learning institution? Look up the gulf of tonkin or are you gonna tell me thats fake too. Who knows what made the buildings fall I dont give a shit I just know that the gov uses idiots like you to blindly follow them.
@TheDirtball69 The sky is blue because of Rayleigh scattering. But your average no brained 911 truther wouldn't know that... I did watch the video by the way...
@yesiamawizardjonny context? Ever heard of a freudian slip. And no the sky is not blue you people who try to prove that the sky is blue is proposterous show me some real proof not some rayleigh theory you speak of.
@TheDirtball69 Are you truly insinuating the sky is actually not blue? Or are you using this as an example? Because if you're saying the sky is not blue, I cannot help you, nor can I argue with you. Your logic is terrible.
If someone messes up or gets taken out of context, that completely proves 911 was an inside job? Of course not. If Rumsfeld was telling the truth when he said that, don't you think the government would have done something about it?
@TheDirtball69 Try this yourself. Go outside and look at the mountains. Do you see that atmospheric discoloration? That's Rayleigh Scattering. BTW: Ralph Rene was wrong when he said the sky is blue because of flourescence,
UA 93 landed after Delta 1989 in Cleveland. If you go on google earth and look at the crash site, then switch to 1994 you'll see a scar when the plane is said to have crashed.
yeah, except Donald Rumsfeld said it was "shot down"
Trying to debunk 9/11 will never work. 9/11 was an inside job.
Oh, and I just wrote a college argumentative essay on this matter and I'm spreading it to the masses, the youth more importantly! This movement will never be stopped.
@blkmariah RUMSFELD DID NOT SAY 93 WAS SHOT DOWN! You took him out of context. 911 was not an inside job, it was terrorists. Watch the rest of this uploader's videos. He'll show you that you're wrong.
Hey RKOwen, some other comments might have already mentioned this, but I'm too lazy to go digging through all your comment pages, so I'll ask now (and hopefully get a response). I'm in total agreement with your explanation and have nothing against the official story, but I recall reading many sources (don't know how true they are) of many residents of Shanksville report on seeing some small "white jet" minutes before hearing the explosion of United 93's crash. Was this white jet ever confirmed?
Yes there was they mentioned this in "9-11 Fact or Fiction". It turns out the control towers radioed the nearest plane that was closest to where the lost contact with 93 to fly above and see what happened, the plane even circled above the crash site several times, enough time for it to have its picture taken.
The dude who posted this video is debunking nothing. The "wingtip" areas of the crater were already visible in Shanksville in 1994. No plane crashed in Shanksville.
Yeah, there was actually a rabbit in that field that had information on the attacks and the government did not want him to talk so they dropped a cruise missile on him. Normally there would be no reason at all for the government to drop a missile in the middle of no where to cover up a giant conspiracy. But in this case it was ever so important. Those phone calls were all faked too...
maybe 93 was supposed to hit Building 7, actually if you look at the flight path the last turn the plane took was exactly towards New York. Interesting...
@Nsight420 ...and you assume there would be no further deviations from the flight path? Unfortunately, it appears you have completely failed to look at UA-93's flight path before crash. As is apparent from the flight path, the plane certainly wasn't headed towards New York.
No Flight 93 was on course to Washington D.C. to the Capitol Building. The plan was to attack the economic, military, and political system of the United States.
This is another great point about the plane debris drifting in the same direction as the flight path. If you look at old footage of napalm cylinders impacting, they explode in the direction of the planes flight path at the moment of release. To claim that this was anything other than a terror attack, is a huge insult to the families and any intelligent, thinking person.
Sure, the official story has holes but so does the theory of evolution it doesn't make it wrong. So when something isn't answered completely then we are allowed to make up worst case scenarios. Because I have ALOT of question for the conspiracy theorists.
Debunking with after-photos of a closed off controlled FBI area is not debunked. There was no plane in that crater or anywhere near it on the videos and pictures available before it was closed off and controlled. You cannot allow the accused to control the crime scene, they will most certainly pepper it with their alibi.
Again, you need to do more research. A passenger from Flight 93 called 9-1-1 and describes hearing an explosion and white smoke coming from the plane. WTF else could that be? Were they cooking hotdogs and a propane tank exploded? Come on!
All you have to do now is show a picture of the hangar with the reconstruction of the aircraft, as is mandatory in every plane crash, or the written report of such investigation and that´s it. Easier, pictures of the fuselage anywhere, landing gear, suitcases, bodies, the tail.
No significant wreckage. You can't escape that fact. I saw the impact area afterwards, a 747 didn't hit there. Its kind of like the WTC7. The jet fuel theory doesn't explain how that building fell. The Pentagon. The lack of plane debris on the lawn discredits the govt's account. In every instance, you guys can't get around the elephant in the room.
if they shot it from behind wouldnt it propell it forward.just sayin.bothsies of this argument are inconsiquential.the fact that is is that the pentagon damage could not be caused by an airplane 9 feet of concrete proves that.
My xbox live gamertag is "maniac executer" (minus qoutes) im open to debate or a discussion (information sharing) just add me and send an invite my way however, if your only going to yell at me like an immature kid dont stop reading this comment.
If you haven't this already it is 100% proof about flight 93. It shows the google earth part of shanksville in 1994. There's already a gash in the ground then.
You should do more research and actually download google earth instead of believing everything that conspiracy theorists tell you like the sheep you are. If you did that then you'd know the claim was pure bullshit. I can't remember if the scar conspiracy theorists are pointing to is in a different location or if the scar disappears at some point. Either way, someone who actually has google earth would have seen it. You fail sheep.
@MrRandomGuy86 Why do you feel you need to resort to insults? What about the eye witness?
Did you know that Osama Bin Laden isn't on the FBI wanted list for the crimes of September 11?
Why don't you watch virtually any video with David Ray Griffin. Perhaps start with Debunking 911 Debunking: An answer to Popular Mechanics and other defenders of the Official conspiracy theory. Of course you won't be able to debunk this, so you may not want to watch it.
@matPolaschek HAHA, I remembered now! Download google earth and measure the scar. You will see that from scar tip to scar tip (I'm not counting the dark areas so it *could* be bigger) it is 80 meters. That's approximately half the size of a plane's wingspan. And that dark area around the scar isn't there on 9/11. You guys need to wake up to the false information.
Oh one more thing. That picture of the responders investigating the crash site by the forest? Yeah, the location is on goggle earth. At least 0.14 miles away from the scar in 1994.
Fools are people who allow their government to spend a stack of dollar notes year after year, literally tall enough to reach half way to the moon, on "defence". Suddenly a rag tag bunch of drunks, who could not fly a 2 seater plane, perform red arrow air acrobatics in Boeing 757 and 767s - who is fooling who ?
I love how 9-11 truther weirdos use the Reichstag. About the only link to the Reichstag here is.... like Hitler, the conspiracy theorists and Muslims blame the Jews in this instance as well. It definitely shows you these truther maggots are sleeping with the terrorists.
People, there are a lot of witnesses that saw how the plane crash. Your word is nothing, against a witness word. So go to fuck off and get another thing to do. Sick bastards.
There are many conspiracy theories out there. The official version itself is a conspiracy theory. Osama Bin Laden and 19 hijackers CONSPIRED to attack America. BUT where is the evidence? youtube. com/watch?v=4nX-KQbYXnk
6/10 of the 911 commissioners said they were lied to and there was a coverup. ALL I am saying is that the government lied to us. I don't know everyone involved, but I know some of them.
You are a nutjob if you believe the official story when the commissioners themselves dont!
@cbranalli It's not whatever I saw. It's a pure unadulterated fact. Why else the theories of Davide Ray Griffin, Dylan Avery, Richard Gage and the likes have been disproven over and over.
@rhonieme If you seen the truther sites, in which I have, they're getting all their information from 3 sources. Mystersies 9/11 (who by way doctored video of the WTC 7 by adding sounds of explosions), Steven Jones reports about thermate, and Loose Change. What all 3 sources have in common is that none of them are experts in any of the fields they're trying to prove/disprove. All the sites use their info collectively but don't add their own investigating.
@matPolaschek No truthers ignore real evidence and believe bullshit videos on youube and shit like loose change and say thats credible evidence. Obviously the thruther movement isnt big on college educations.
@db10001110101 haha loose change was made by a bunch of college students.. The Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag operation that resulted in the deaths of 50,000 americans. Why would it be so shocking to you if 9/11 were an inside job. Their is credible evidence supporting both sides.. Do you think the government or whoever was really behind 9/11 would make it easy to figure out. The government essentialy has limitless control, and if you don't realize that, it proves my point.
@rickyp17 I never said the government wasnt against doing thing that are horrible, but you happen to be wrong because there is no credible evidence to support any of the truther claims. If there was would say there was but sorry there isnt. The governmnet does not have limitless control and if you believe that then you really need an education.
@db10001110101 haha you're arrogant, their is most definetly credible evidence.. the free fall speeds of all 3 buildings, the disrepancies in the NIST and FEMA reports, the cleveland airports mystery, the blast squibs, their is more too, not so much more credibe but still shit that raises questions, and yeah they basically do have limitless power, it's to a point were 80% of people are to naive to even see it. I'm even going to try to explain it to you because you're reality tunnel is incapable
@rickyp17 WOw, you dont know what credible evidence is if you come at me with that week sauce. That is not credible evidence and by proving someone elses statement wrong doesnt automatically make yours right. By saying "well they had discrepancies in their story so our story is right" No sorry but thats not right. The buildings did not fall to fast and when I hear that pathetic argument I know I am dealing with an uneducated child or Rosey Odonnel. Come on kid. No controled demolition. HAHAHA
@db10001110101 mention their are countless theories, some not so credible others very.. you are arrogant as i said before.. and i do not come close to beleiving anything i hear, i do non-baised research on 9/11 unlike most people.
@rickyp17 Really find one credible non-biased evidence to support one truther claim that has a positive peer-review, wait sorry there isnt one. Thats where you guys fall short. No credible supporting evidence.
@db10001110101 you are fucking stupid just straight stupid, this is what you just said there is not one peice of Able to be believed; convincing peice of evidence, their most definetly is, and all you arrogant people say that same fucking thing, you and fucking Greywolf.. which is not the majority of people as you can see by the likes and dislikes with most 9/11 videos.. maybe majority in the non youtube world, but all the evidence on youtube is liked more then is is disliked, essentially
@rickyp17 That is not peer-reviewed credible evidence and ifyou cannot see that then I hope you didnt spend 2 much on your college education kid. Sorry but you may have not gotten to that at whatever junior college you go to. The reason I have asked for peer-reviewed work for your side is because there is none. Sorry not one. The only two works for your side that have been summitted to peer-review didnt pass retard. Nanothermite, impossible falling time, all of it failed kid like you.
@rickyp17 So far you have shown yourself to be a hypocrit. You have ignored and refused to except evidence avecause it is obvious that you havent looked. You have shown you dont know the meaning of the word credibility, and you seem to be living in a fantasy world were the government is so evil and everything you hear that is bad about them you believe even when all your informayion is completely without credibility or positive peer-revission.
@db10001110101 HAHAH, yeah beacuse you know how i've come to the conclusions i have. I never said that it would automatically make anything else right? don't put words in my mouth. I am merely suggesting further investigation? is that wrong? you don't know shit about me, and you saying all my information is NOT credible doesn't mean shit to me? that is just you saying that! it is proven they fell at near freefall speeds, and into their own footprint, the collapses are very suspicious.. not to
@rickyp17 You are making my point for me. I am going off of a confirmed observation I have made from your comments. The buildings did not fall at near freefall speed and that has been shown. This shows that you are getting your information from a source that is not credible. All your comments have shown that kid and you still cant seem to understand that. I am not guessing I can read what you write and I have more knowledge than you and can do research how it is suposed to be conducted.
@rickyp17 You keep shpwing that you need an education. Credibility is not an opinion and try telling that to a college professor when you turn in a paper. They will laugh at you because you would ahve to be a complete moron to make that statement. You also say that there are so many people who like these videos so that must mean something, but it doesnt. Thats an argument for supriority and thats what truthers try to say peer-review is. Get an education moron.
@db10001110101 ..First of all their are college professors that are for the truth movement(fact), so is that CREDIBLE? second of all that is a completely incomparable situation, i assure you i can hand in a paper with what professors consider credible evidence on 9/11 being an inside job easily.
@rickyp17 No you cant you just said crediblity was an opinion and you mentioned the building falling at near free fall speed but that isnt true. You are just lying kid. Sorry but youtube videos are not evidence and you need an education. Maybe that shit will fly at whatever junior college you went to but not my university.
@db10001110101 wow, watch some robert anton wilson videos, and some quantuam mechanics/ physics, then maybe you might understand what i am trying to tell you.
@rickyp17 Wow, yu have just shown how in need of an education you are. You said crediblity was an opinion and know you think you can educate me? What the fuck is wrong with you kid? You said the buildings fell at neer free fall speed but that is not true. You are a liar and a moron. Boh buildings took more then 9.22 seconds to fall which would be free fall speed and in fact one of the buildings took more then twice as long to fall then 9.22 sec and the other took almost twice as long.
@rickyp17 You really need to stop lying and start reading and quit watching biased youtube videos made by people as uneducated as you are kid. You are a moron.
@db10001110101 haha i said what is consider fucking credible is opinion, which is the case most of the time! you are fucking dumb i could give a fuck about proving anything to you now.
@rickyp17 All you have provided so far was repeating bullshit that moron came up with. You didnt check the information by using a credible source and you decided to makeit your opinion what is credible to you and wa=hat isnt and that make you a fool. You have ust said that and you are 2 fuckin stupid to realize it. You are your 9/11 truther buddies can lie to eachother but dont get mad when sane people laugh at you.
@db10001110101 did i not already say i could give a fuck about your arrogance? You're fucking stupid, you first of all assume that you fucking KNOW my whole thought process. I drew my opinion from watching about every debunking video i could, for both sides. Then i checked the facts with my own research online. All the shit you refer to as credible such as the great "NIST and "FEMA" reports, DO have disrepancies in them, not to mention the 1000 of engineers, architechts, and pilots that question
@rickyp17 Listen you litte retarded hypocrit. You are saying trying to say what I consider credible without even knowing what I am talking about, but you have given me your entire thought process etard. You have told me I havent just assumed. You say things that are not true and not supported by evidence that you saw on a video which yourself have said and then did internet research which probably has been on truther sites that continue to lie to you. 1000 compared to hundreds of thousands.
@rickyp17 When scientist with degrees in field that are related to the topic explain why the buildings fell without saying complete nonsense like nanothermite or controlled demolition, which it wasnt, and explain how it happened and then people without degrees in any area relating to the topic come up with crazy ideas of what went down that can easily be disproved but the ignorant believe what they want. Sorry but every 9/11 truther claimof what happened has been shot down kid.
@rickyp17 Thats why your side has not one positive peer-review of their work, and its not because other people are worried about getting fired for agreeing with them because that is a joke because peer-review is almost always done anonymously so quite making excuses and just admit you want to be wrong and ignorant instead of actually knowing anything about anything. When you live your life surrounded by beliefs that are wrong you are livng a lie.
@db10001110101 WOW, you are not even worth my time. typical falser shit keep claiming the same bullshit over and over when their are clearly credible degrees in the field that think it was an inside job this is fact! You are just plain stupid. I keep proving how the thing you keep trying to say over and over again is wrong like counter what i say? stop saying the same stuid shit. It's funny how like four or five comments and you KNOW my whole thought process too? haha and i'm the stupid one..
@rickyp17 Yes you are the stupid one. That is a fact. When you say things like the impossible fall times but you havent explained how they were impossible, you just repeated something you saw on a video without looking for the truth. You probably dont even know how long they fell or why thy fell. It has been explained retard. Just because there are people with degrees who think it was an inside job doesnt prove it was and I am sorry you cant figure that out especially when more people disagree.
@rickyp17 Wow, who ever told you that is a moron. You need to quit watching videos and read for a change. Thats whats wrong with people they think by watching a view biased videos made by people with little to no education that you now have a valid argument against credible people with credibkle evidence with a great deal of education. Sorry but physicist have proven you and your uneducated cronies worng kid. Sorry you didnt go to college.
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mrh785 6 hours ago
I'm not a de-bunker, I actually do believe a conspiracy was involved with 9/11 but the notion flight 93 was shot down makes no sense for those who believe it was an inside job. It it was an inside job then why shoot it down and actually protect the country? Why not let it hit it's target like the other three planes? If you believe 93 was shot down, then you believe it was not an inside job. If they shot it down why hide it? Why not take credit for saving the capitol being hit?
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Fuck you it's in the 9/11 commission report it was shot down, tired of these ridiculous fairy tale stories.
sublimex7 2 weeks ago
@sublimex7 The 9/11 Commission Report states Flight 93 was shot down!!??
Are you for real?
Because I'd really be interested in seeing where they say that.
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MrNoblemanoflove 3 weeks ago
Osama was a multi milionare. He was no "man in a cave". That is propaganda that you have been sold.
dnahulvey 4 weeks ago
This video actually supports the shoot down theory. At some point the aircraft was flying forward at speed and with the wind. If it was shot and hit in the air at flying altitude and then nose dived to the ground like the impact crator shows, the lighter debree created would still be at some speed and would continue forward from that point of impact and be pushed even further by the wind in the same direction it was traveling and not reverse direction and go backwards against the wind.
spidermancereal 4 weeks ago
@spidermancereal
What in the fuck are you talking about?
Try to make sense.
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spidermancereal 4 weeks ago
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damienrockaterror 1 month ago
CVR tells the story. Good videos!
WUDJABEABLE 1 month ago
"MY BROTHER N LAW SAID" Man that is some made up shit. You should be ashamed. If I had a nickle for everytime Ive heard someone say some shit like that, idiots would be occupying my house...
dnahulvey 2 months ago
@dnahulvey You would have a shitload of nickles.
jschultzVII 2 months ago
Nice work. Truthers are some nut jobs. Everything is a conspiracy. One question that blows a hole in their lil conspiracies: Why didnt we find WMD's in Iraq?? The mighty Bush Chaney couldnt plant some to keep the fascism going? If ALL that happened was an inside job, why did we not find wmds & keep on rolling? That should have been the easy part. Ask yourselves.
dnahulvey 2 months ago
@dnahulvey Finding WMD's was only relevent untill the invasion began as a reason to invade. After that finding them doesnt matter, we couldn't Un-Invade Iraq. theres no need to plant anything. Do you also believe 19 cave dwelling arabs got lucky and out smarted the worlds best intelligence service and air defence system four times in 1 day? The same intelligence system that fucked up the WMD intell. Is the CIA run by the three stooges and can't get anything right? Probably not. Think.
spidermancereal 4 weeks ago
My brother-in-law was a in the airforce at the time he was ordered in the air but wasnt part of actually following any of the planes just on call. But heard it was shot down through the chain. Since he was practically there im gonna stick with that.
midilax 2 months ago
This vid is bull shit! Ensuing heat? What heat? No jet fuel was found by the EPA! Is this music suppose to make people believe this crap? Joke! Guys, you have been punked!
TheScottybobear 3 months ago
how come the people who took control of the plane from the terrorists didn't try to land it but instead delibrately just have it go straight to the ground? i would've tried to land it. no offense to anyone involved in this tragedy!!!!
TheMostAwesomeMan242 3 months ago
@TheMostAwesomeMan242 How do you know that the passengers managed to recapture united 93?
Jesse2K12 3 months ago
@Jesse2K12 ????!!!!!
TheMostAwesomeMan242 3 months ago
@TheMostAwesomeMan242 are you going to answer the question
Jesse2K12 3 months ago
@Jesse2K12 ifyour a conspiracy theorist than no. if not than i recommend watching news reports. seeing articles on this incident, or even going to Wikipedia and typing in Fleight 93.
TheMostAwesomeMan242 3 months ago
@TheMostAwesomeMan242 I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and according to wikipedia passengers attempted to recapture united 93 but failed because the hijackers crashed united 93 into the ground. I don't see any evidence that the passengers recaptured the plane and then deliberately crashed united 93 into the ground.
Jesse2K12 3 months ago
Thanks for explaining this... My father ( aircraft mechanic for United) knew Cee Cee Lyles ( fyi she was a flight attendant, not a passenger ) and I was clueless about flight 93. This made it clear to me.
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Gazbait 4 months ago
@lascienvacas ....... Please do ...... I will be more than happy to take a look at them
Gazbait 4 months ago
@Gazbait ... Well I have seen the pictures and It's nothing more than all the pictures that I have already seen. SO I still say AGAIN that all of this is inconsistant with the damage that should have been left behind. Nothing adds up no matter how many different ways you look at it, at ALL the crash sites. FUEL and fire takes down 3 buildings and helps the collaspe of WTC7, Skanksville is barely smouldering, if you believe that the heat was so intence to melt steal, HOW in the hell do people
Gazbait 4 months ago
@Gazbait .. CONT ... run in and out of the Pentagon to rescue others. The plane at Shanksville was upside down and at a 40 angle, so how did a tail section almost 4 to 5 stories high not make a mark on the ground, the imprint would suggest it was vertical when it went in. 165ft of plane, SURELY there should have been an imprint of the tail at that angle or at the very least a scar of some discription
Gazbait 4 months ago
@lascienvacas...... NO ..... What I'm saying is that 3 sets of landing gear 10 wheels and tyres , some 230 odd seats 2 engines, the external frame, insulation etc,etc,etc don't just VANISH. Hitting at that speed the ground is going to compact rapidly ( to the point where even soil will act like concrete ) If everything is made from the same materials and hit at the same time, you cant dig up part of an engine and not find 4 wheels and the landing gear buried along side it or near it
Gazbait 4 months ago
@Gazbait ....... 4 Aircraft, all hitting different objects, but throwing up the same pieces of wreckage. Pretty much nothing survived at all 4 apart from An engine ( WTC, Pentagon, Skanksville ) A wheel ( skanksville, WTC, Pentagon ) documentation of people on board ( Skanksville, WTC, Pentagon ) and other smaller pieces of debris. All the strike areas are going to put up different resistances, so how can the wreckage and debris fields be the same
Gazbait 4 months ago
SHOT DOWN OR NOT, that doesn't explain why one engine was found in the ground ( they should have also found the landing gear near that ) one engine rolled or bounced 900ft, debris was carried away by wind but hardly any paper, clothing, or insulation is visable nearer to the crash site ( Just like the lawn at the Pentagon ) Although some pieces were found. Same plane punches through 3 rings of re-enforced concrete and leaves a hole, 93 hits the ground and then kindly cover's itself in earth
Gazbait 4 months ago
Owned! great video.
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Gandalf17 4 months ago
@MrRationalOptimist Not saying that I am one who believes it was shot down, but your question of what would it matter?
What would it matter if your government lied to you about killing civilians (even for a reason of saving more civilians)? Really is that a question you need to ask? Thanks to 9/11 we have lost what our country was all about, which was EXACTLY what they wanted to happen.
unlawful search and seizures, wire taps, holding people with out bail for years, kill lists w/ US citz
mzauher 4 months ago
hell i don't know what to believe anymore, some people say it was shot down, others deny it, dick cheney admits that it was shot down, but other officials deny it, u know, ten years later and we couldn't even officially figure out what happened on 9/11 JESUS THATS FRUSTERATING!
mesner5 4 months ago 2
Even if it was shot down how does it in anyway contribute to a conspiracy? In fact the opposite would be true. If all the hijackings on the day were an "inside job" why wasn't the plane allowed to fly to Washington? This "shot down" idea doesn't even fit with the general conspiracy argument. Do you "truthers" believe every 9/11 conspiracy regardless whether they contradict each other? Additionally the president never ever denied that it would have been shot down if it was necessary.
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Born2Flesh 4 months ago
its just funny to me how our government goes to such extremes to hide things and keep secrets from us. if they are telling the truth then why cant we hear the audio files from the plane and from the 911 calls? Obviously the investigation is over so lets go ahead and release the information they have. We as Americans need to stand up to our government officials and demand the truth, and the evidence to back it up.
Erwincm33 5 months ago
@Erwincm33 The reason it has not been released is because of their fear that enough concrete evidence would be put together that they would have to re-open it. Well, their fears have come true. It took over 9 years of ignoring eyewitness testimony of the lies media try to sell and physics impossiblities from NIST but the FBI made the case alive and well again.Trolls are already back at unemployment lines,admitting were tired of spewing lies anyway
watch?v=c0duYzakPMk&feature=channel_video_title
andyjoep 4 months ago
@Erwincm33 Pull your head out of your ass, the 911 calls are everywhere, in fact its hard to miss them, if you had typed, i know its hard, but type flight 93 911 calls, flitght 11 911 calls etc they would show up and you can listen to them, its called internet, kinda amazing isnt it?
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So how is the reconstruction of the plane going? Oh wait there is none. Strange that, usually when a plane crashes they carefully collect all that bits left and reconstruct it in order to verify what caused it to crash, except here. Maybe too much was vaporized. 911, the day of the vaporizing effect!!!
Moreofthesamez 5 months ago
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Moreofthesamez 5 months ago
you know as far as this one goes, considering the obvious lack of debris at the crash site, the shoot down explaination seems to support they 'non' cospiracy theory. What if they just covered up the shoot down, I mean they shot it down to protect people on the ground right?
uewVumopVapIsVdn 5 months ago
@uewVumopVapIsVdn Dick Cheney admits to ordering the plane shot down in an interview. The official timeline states Cheney entered underground room 2 minutes before Pentagon hit. Why is our air defense system dependant on 3 people to give orders when those people aren't readily available for emergencies and take over an hour to respond. WTC1 hit at 8:46am. Pentagon hit at 9:39. Over an hour. The sole purpose of our government is to protect against enemies.
buzzybeemarketing 2 months ago
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@buzzybeemarketing Your naive concerning your government. They don't love you.
13eyeofthebeholder 2 months ago
@Stealth9331
I read your post. Rumsfeld knew what he was talking about, that's why he
corrected himself. you don't correct yourself if you don't know WTF you are
talking about. KRGRUBBS seems to think a correction meand international
crimes against humanity. IF you are not a Truther, I apologize, but I am
just trying to "question" them, as they are making the profits from american
deaths in terrorist attacks.
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
@Stealth9331
Bullshit. The entire flight debris profile for Flight 191 that went down in Chicago
was covered by the playground of a trailer park. That was a DC-10, larger
than a Boeing 757. Planes have plunged into soft ground before. In florida,
the ENTIRE plane disappeared below the water of a knee high swamp.
Eventually, they dredged up 95% of that plane also.
Big, embarassing fail for Truthers.
Merlin5by5 5 months ago
I would only consider this "debunk" if I have not heard with my own ears Rumsfeld accidentally admit it was "shot down over Pennsylvania". fucked that one up Rumsfeld, liars always slip up. You wouldn't accidentally say that if it didn't happen.
krgrubbs 5 months ago
your sources are the media. Think about that
krgrubbs 5 months ago
The most outrageous 9/11 conspiracy theories are always about United 93. They say it was shot down, they say it never took off, they say it landed safely, it makes a mockery of the whole tragedy.
asteroidrules 6 months ago
jaketheretard, tipycal sheep believer retard, only insults and never one answer, only theories from us gov. official version BS, and never facts.
bernuga 6 months ago
@bernuga That's a common statement you conspiracy nuts use: you accuse us of believing the official story merely because it's the official story. You are delusional; just because they government says something doesn't automatically make it right OR wrong. You operate under the delusion that everything the government tells you is an outright lie, whereas we trust the testimony of real experts, both public and private. YOU'RE the sheep; a slightly different variety of sheep, but sheep nonetheless.
cyanmanta 6 months ago
@cyanmanta c'mon monkey,there were questions to answer,why you moron don't answer?Cause u r a brainwashed sheep believer,that's why u can only insult,because you only have ridicolous theories to explain what happened on 9/11.People like u should die,victim's families are asking for a new and real investigation,but it seems that morons like u,even if u can't answer their questions,don't want to know the truth.Shame on u animal.come back with answers or open your mouth cause I'm gonna piss in.
bernuga 6 months ago
@bernuga Why should I? YOU don't offer answers OR proof. Why should I dignify you with that which you are unwilling to give me? You have nothing but insults and self-righteous indignation to offer, and that makes you unworthy of my time.
cyanmanta 6 months ago
anyone can find another plane crash where debris were founded in a 6 miles large area?
MrDuspaghi 6 months ago
now see heres the thing. like people who believe it was government or not, you dont know this for a fact. not saying i believe it was shot down. but one thing if you wernt there, then you have no idea. kinda like saying a missle hot the pentagon. YOU DONT KNOW. you just sit there and say. theirs no possible way? you can say you saw two planes hit the trade centers . theres proof of it. not in these cases. all you have is pieces of a plane and some pictures of some smoke. thats not de bunking.
jakethe9th 6 months ago
@jakethe9th He has done a good job of providing near proof of what happened. 'Truthers' have no evidence of anything. 'WTC7 was demolished', 'there were bombs in WTC', 'there is no wreckage at the pentagon' etc etc. All of the theories have been adressed by experts, journalists and people who were there, who have shown clear evidence. He is presenting clear evidence for what happened, something that 'truthers' can't do.
rockermanmatt 6 months ago
@jakethe9th fuck off. you're a conspiracy theorist. you're just hiding it.
playuppompey01 6 months ago
@playuppompey01 on that day, NORAD was ordered to stand down. witch means our air defense system was told not to send up fighter jets. but on nation television. Donald Rumsfeld slipped up saying it had been shot down. go look for it your self.
jakethe9th 6 months ago
maybe the paper and insulation was that far away because thats where it was shot first, witnesses saw a fighter jet right after the black cloud......hmmmm, let me be a dumb fuck and not research the truth, ill listen to msm and the gov't. You listen to everything that is shoved in your face by the govt ? get out of fantasy world that you lied to yourself about since birth
jeffdpjr 6 months ago
@jeffdpjr you are so wise. now if you'll excuse me, 'dancing with the stars' is on.
911sausageman 6 months ago
watch this:
"Rumsfeld said Flight 93 shot down"
MrDuspaghi 7 months ago
Al-Qaeda did 9/11! Face the facts twoothers and get out of that FEMA camp in your mind.
911sausageman 7 months ago
@911sausageman wake up dumb shit, ignorant TOOL !
jeffdpjr 6 months ago
@jeffdpjr thanks anyway, I've already seen the Matrix and thought it sucked.
911sausageman 6 months ago
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nofxmike06 7 months ago
Whats the point? There are lies and truths mixed up. That makes and ongoing argument. The US government are dlways caught in lies. So they are liers. Thats how that works! Sorry.....!
TheBelldiver 7 months ago
There's a decent possibility this plane was shot down, but even if it really was, it would be just a defense action, like, shoot it down before it reaches a populated area. It has nothing to do with inside job silliness.
WilliamAztech 8 months ago
Second Amendment.......Time to fuck em up
KarmaAngel12212011 8 months ago
Can you do a video about debunking the claims that the video footage of the first plane and 2nd plane were fabricated? I'll email you the links as it doesn't seem to want to accept me putting them in here.
TheJeremywaterman 8 months ago
@yesiamawizardjonny He DID say it was shot down. There's video of him saying it. He said it was shot down and that goes against the official report. The govt. Can't keep their story straight.
blkmariah 8 months ago
its was shot down even a witness said she saw fighter planes come by after it crashed
TheBeastClan1 8 months ago
Truthers are asinine. You show them evidence supporting what actually happened on 9/11 and they simply deny it. After all ignorance is bliss right?
Derouin91 9 months ago
@Derouin91 haha it is more blissfull (ignorant) to simply believe what the government says then to use your own commonsense.. which i dont think you have.
mindfuckerification 8 months ago
@mindfuckerification I've done extensive research on 9/11, and when did I ever say I just "believe" what the government says? By replying to this comment you're only further proving my point.
Derouin91 8 months ago
I just realized. The passengers of United 93 experienced zero gravity before impacting!
yesiamawizardjonny 9 months ago
I still don't feel justice even after Bin Laden is dead. I wanna kill some ragheads, right now for what they did.
yesiamawizardjonny 9 months ago
@yesiamawizardjonny youre an idot. They are just the dogs that carry out the main agenda. For gods sake your own government fucks you left and right and you want to kill "towelheads"WTF?? People like you make me want to leave this fucked country. Rumsfeld even said 93 was shot down, its on VIDEO look it up dumbass. Research the Gulf Of Tonkin our government isn't all peaches and cream.
TheDirtball69 9 months ago
@TheDirtball69 Nobody ever announced that 93 was shot down. If they did, that would be incriminating evidence and more than just "truthers" would "know" of a 911 coverup. Rumsfeld did no such thing, it's just you 911 conspiracy theorists taking things out of context and spinning everyone's words. Do you really think that Rumsfeld would say that only nobody would know about it?? haha. You make me laugh.
yesiamawizardjonny 9 months ago
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@TheDirtball69 So I checked out that video. Like I said, you guys took him out of context. He said the following in your terms: "The people... that shot down the plane over Pennsylvania."
In Real Terms: He said "IF" In fact he said "IF" twice. he is talking about the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, and did the bombing in spain...IF they attacked the US, NY and shot down 93 and attacked the pentagon.
yesiamawizardjonny 9 months ago
@TheDirtball69 Rumsfeld said no such thing. There is no solid proof that the govt performed the September 11 attacks. I personally mathematically disproved the free-fall buildings theory to one of your cronies.
yesiamawizardjonny 9 months ago
@yesiamawizardjonny watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0 theres the link, god your so stupid and lazy. Ha how to you people dismiss things that you dont even take time to look into. The sky isnt blue because I said so!! hahaha thats how you sound. Have you ever even been in any kind of higher learning institution? Look up the gulf of tonkin or are you gonna tell me thats fake too. Who knows what made the buildings fall I dont give a shit I just know that the gov uses idiots like you to blindly follow them.
TheDirtball69 9 months ago
@TheDirtball69 The sky is blue because of Rayleigh scattering. But your average no brained 911 truther wouldn't know that... I did watch the video by the way...
yesiamawizardjonny 9 months ago
@TheDirtball69 Like I said, you just took him out of context...
yesiamawizardjonny 9 months ago
@yesiamawizardjonny context? Ever heard of a freudian slip. And no the sky is not blue you people who try to prove that the sky is blue is proposterous show me some real proof not some rayleigh theory you speak of.
TheDirtball69 9 months ago
@TheDirtball69 Are you truly insinuating the sky is actually not blue? Or are you using this as an example? Because if you're saying the sky is not blue, I cannot help you, nor can I argue with you. Your logic is terrible.
If someone messes up or gets taken out of context, that completely proves 911 was an inside job? Of course not. If Rumsfeld was telling the truth when he said that, don't you think the government would have done something about it?
yesiamawizardjonny 9 months ago
@TheDirtball69 Try this yourself. Go outside and look at the mountains. Do you see that atmospheric discoloration? That's Rayleigh Scattering. BTW: Ralph Rene was wrong when he said the sky is blue because of flourescence,
yesiamawizardjonny 9 months ago
UA 93 landed after Delta 1989 in Cleveland. If you go on google earth and look at the crash site, then switch to 1994 you'll see a scar when the plane is said to have crashed.
kidkong584 9 months ago
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zenoist2 9 months ago
yeah, except Donald Rumsfeld said it was "shot down"
Trying to debunk 9/11 will never work. 9/11 was an inside job.
Oh, and I just wrote a college argumentative essay on this matter and I'm spreading it to the masses, the youth more importantly! This movement will never be stopped.
blkmariah 9 months ago
@blkmariah RUMSFELD DID NOT SAY 93 WAS SHOT DOWN! You took him out of context. 911 was not an inside job, it was terrorists. Watch the rest of this uploader's videos. He'll show you that you're wrong.
yesiamawizardjonny 9 months ago
Hey RKOwen, some other comments might have already mentioned this, but I'm too lazy to go digging through all your comment pages, so I'll ask now (and hopefully get a response). I'm in total agreement with your explanation and have nothing against the official story, but I recall reading many sources (don't know how true they are) of many residents of Shanksville report on seeing some small "white jet" minutes before hearing the explosion of United 93's crash. Was this white jet ever confirmed?
booste30 10 months ago
@booste30
Ill answer that for you... No, there was no confirmation of this.
usindependent50 10 months ago
@booste30
Yes there was they mentioned this in "9-11 Fact or Fiction". It turns out the control towers radioed the nearest plane that was closest to where the lost contact with 93 to fly above and see what happened, the plane even circled above the crash site several times, enough time for it to have its picture taken.
Virgil077 9 months ago
The dude who posted this video is debunking nothing. The "wingtip" areas of the crater were already visible in Shanksville in 1994. No plane crashed in Shanksville.
novisibersk 10 months ago
@novisibersk
Yeah, there was actually a rabbit in that field that had information on the attacks and the government did not want him to talk so they dropped a cruise missile on him. Normally there would be no reason at all for the government to drop a missile in the middle of no where to cover up a giant conspiracy. But in this case it was ever so important. Those phone calls were all faked too...
usindependent50 10 months ago
maybe 93 was supposed to hit Building 7, actually if you look at the flight path the last turn the plane took was exactly towards New York. Interesting...
Nsight420 10 months ago
@Nsight420 ...and you assume there would be no further deviations from the flight path? Unfortunately, it appears you have completely failed to look at UA-93's flight path before crash. As is apparent from the flight path, the plane certainly wasn't headed towards New York.
halfglassed 10 months ago
@Nsight420
No Flight 93 was on course to Washington D.C. to the Capitol Building. The plan was to attack the economic, military, and political system of the United States.
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Getdamoneyng0 10 months ago
And I have video to prove it so...
It's on youtube, look it up yourself.
blkmariah 10 months ago
What about Donald Rumsfeld saying that 93 was shot down? He said it, not me...
9/11 was an inside job.
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blkmariah 10 months ago
This is another great point about the plane debris drifting in the same direction as the flight path. If you look at old footage of napalm cylinders impacting, they explode in the direction of the planes flight path at the moment of release. To claim that this was anything other than a terror attack, is a huge insult to the families and any intelligent, thinking person.
AlienShadow5000 10 months ago
The fact that Americans allow themselves to be subverted like this is a sad state for the world.
The official story is wrong...evidence has been removed and destroyed. Inside job or not.
It certainly was a False Flag. My bet is the Israeli's.
00Billy 10 months ago
@00Billy
Sure, the official story has holes but so does the theory of evolution it doesn't make it wrong. So when something isn't answered completely then we are allowed to make up worst case scenarios. Because I have ALOT of question for the conspiracy theorists.
usindependent50 10 months ago 2
@usindependent50 evolution doesn't have any evidence to support it and neither does the theory that 9/11 was faked.
swb1m1 9 months ago
By the way the 93 plane was shot down..
Misstorys 11 months ago
Debunking with after-photos of a closed off controlled FBI area is not debunked. There was no plane in that crater or anywhere near it on the videos and pictures available before it was closed off and controlled. You cannot allow the accused to control the crime scene, they will most certainly pepper it with their alibi.
Victord2000 11 months ago
Again, you need to do more research. A passenger from Flight 93 called 9-1-1 and describes hearing an explosion and white smoke coming from the plane. WTF else could that be? Were they cooking hotdogs and a propane tank exploded? Come on!
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thnksmarter 11 months ago
All you have to do now is show a picture of the hangar with the reconstruction of the aircraft, as is mandatory in every plane crash, or the written report of such investigation and that´s it. Easier, pictures of the fuselage anywhere, landing gear, suitcases, bodies, the tail.
tromboista 11 months ago
No significant wreckage. You can't escape that fact. I saw the impact area afterwards, a 747 didn't hit there. Its kind of like the WTC7. The jet fuel theory doesn't explain how that building fell. The Pentagon. The lack of plane debris on the lawn discredits the govt's account. In every instance, you guys can't get around the elephant in the room.
74mackd 11 months ago
Type into youtube 9/11 connecting the dots and destroying the 9/11 truth movement.
sums up misinformation and the best evidence in half an hour in total.
FringedOOTmaFrang 1 year ago
if they shot it from behind wouldnt it propell it forward.just sayin.bothsies of this argument are inconsiquential.the fact that is is that the pentagon damage could not be caused by an airplane 9 feet of concrete proves that.
oddjobsunl 1 year ago
want to debate a 9/11 truther???
My xbox live gamertag is "maniac executer" (minus qoutes) im open to debate or a discussion (information sharing) just add me and send an invite my way however, if your only going to yell at me like an immature kid dont stop reading this comment.
TheWeaponsmith69 1 year ago
If you haven't this already it is 100% proof about flight 93. It shows the google earth part of shanksville in 1994. There's already a gash in the ground then.
/watch?v=rUzrHHDu96U&feature=related
and eye witness to small plane
/watch?v=An_nXpr5K0A&NR=1
matPolaschek 1 year ago
@matPolaschek
You should do more research and actually download google earth instead of believing everything that conspiracy theorists tell you like the sheep you are. If you did that then you'd know the claim was pure bullshit. I can't remember if the scar conspiracy theorists are pointing to is in a different location or if the scar disappears at some point. Either way, someone who actually has google earth would have seen it. You fail sheep.
MrRandomGuy86 11 months ago
@MrRandomGuy86 Why do you feel you need to resort to insults? What about the eye witness?
Did you know that Osama Bin Laden isn't on the FBI wanted list for the crimes of September 11?
Why don't you watch virtually any video with David Ray Griffin. Perhaps start with Debunking 911 Debunking: An answer to Popular Mechanics and other defenders of the Official conspiracy theory. Of course you won't be able to debunk this, so you may not want to watch it.
watch?v=xbY5_qtz83M
matPolaschek 11 months ago
@matPolaschek HAHA, I remembered now! Download google earth and measure the scar. You will see that from scar tip to scar tip (I'm not counting the dark areas so it *could* be bigger) it is 80 meters. That's approximately half the size of a plane's wingspan. And that dark area around the scar isn't there on 9/11. You guys need to wake up to the false information.
MrRandomGuy86 11 months ago
@matPolaschek
Oh one more thing. That picture of the responders investigating the crash site by the forest? Yeah, the location is on goggle earth. At least 0.14 miles away from the scar in 1994.
MrRandomGuy86 11 months ago
Great video
ncdhfujdf 1 year ago
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Fools are people who allow their government to spend a stack of dollar notes year after year, literally tall enough to reach half way to the moon, on "defence". Suddenly a rag tag bunch of drunks, who could not fly a 2 seater plane, perform red arrow air acrobatics in Boeing 757 and 767s - who is fooling who ?
autodetune 1 year ago
I love how 9-11 truther weirdos use the Reichstag. About the only link to the Reichstag here is.... like Hitler, the conspiracy theorists and Muslims blame the Jews in this instance as well. It definitely shows you these truther maggots are sleeping with the terrorists.
threeddd33 1 year ago
Rumsfeld slipped up and admitted it was shot down.
They were not going to let another hijacked plane hit a ground target.
wastedwasted3 1 year ago
People, there are a lot of witnesses that saw how the plane crash. Your word is nothing, against a witness word. So go to fuck off and get another thing to do. Sick bastards.
MJ4ever911 1 year ago
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There are many conspiracy theories out there. The official version itself is a conspiracy theory. Osama Bin Laden and 19 hijackers CONSPIRED to attack America. BUT where is the evidence? youtube. com/watch?v=4nX-KQbYXnk
6/10 of the 911 commissioners said they were lied to and there was a coverup. ALL I am saying is that the government lied to us. I don't know everyone involved, but I know some of them.
You are a nutjob if you believe the official story when the commissioners themselves dont!
DiabloUniverse 1 year ago
How do you know the plane was flying up side down?
vocam12 1 year ago
@vocam12 Witnesses, you idiot, witnesses.
MJ4ever911 1 year ago
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@vocam12 Jesus. Its a well known fact
EveryTrip2 1 year ago
Excellent vid; here's to hoping that some paranoid schizo out there sees the simple truth.
YeyJordan 1 year ago
850 feet per second is the speed of a .45ACP bullet. That's fast!
jboritzki 1 year ago
RKOwens is slick disinformation for people who need to believe all the official lies.
if that's what you're after you've come to the right place.
charles ranalli
albuquerque
cbranalli 1 year ago
@cbranalli Wow, you're an idiot.
godzilla1077 1 year ago
@godzilla1077 thanks
cbranalli 1 year ago
@cbranalli No prob, I love how truthers heavily rely on ignoring physics, science and actual physical evidence showing it was not an inside job.
godzilla1077 1 year ago
@godzilla1077 whatever you say mr godzilla
charles ranalli
albuquerque
cbranalli 1 year ago
@cbranalli It's not whatever I saw. It's a pure unadulterated fact. Why else the theories of Davide Ray Griffin, Dylan Avery, Richard Gage and the likes have been disproven over and over.
godzilla1077 1 year ago
@godzilla1077 Agreed, You Tube is a conspiracy theorists wet dream come true.
rhonieme 1 year ago
@rhonieme If you seen the truther sites, in which I have, they're getting all their information from 3 sources. Mystersies 9/11 (who by way doctored video of the WTC 7 by adding sounds of explosions), Steven Jones reports about thermate, and Loose Change. What all 3 sources have in common is that none of them are experts in any of the fields they're trying to prove/disprove. All the sites use their info collectively but don't add their own investigating.
godzilla1077 1 year ago
@godzilla1077 Huh? How do truthers ignore physics and physical evidence? I think you must be talking about NIST.
matPolaschek 11 months ago
@matPolaschek No truthers ignore real evidence and believe bullshit videos on youube and shit like loose change and say thats credible evidence. Obviously the thruther movement isnt big on college educations.
db10001110101 11 months ago
@db10001110101 haha loose change was made by a bunch of college students.. The Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag operation that resulted in the deaths of 50,000 americans. Why would it be so shocking to you if 9/11 were an inside job. Their is credible evidence supporting both sides.. Do you think the government or whoever was really behind 9/11 would make it easy to figure out. The government essentialy has limitless control, and if you don't realize that, it proves my point.
rickyp17 11 months ago
@rickyp17 I never said the government wasnt against doing thing that are horrible, but you happen to be wrong because there is no credible evidence to support any of the truther claims. If there was would say there was but sorry there isnt. The governmnet does not have limitless control and if you believe that then you really need an education.
db10001110101 11 months ago
@db10001110101 haha you're arrogant, their is most definetly credible evidence.. the free fall speeds of all 3 buildings, the disrepancies in the NIST and FEMA reports, the cleveland airports mystery, the blast squibs, their is more too, not so much more credibe but still shit that raises questions, and yeah they basically do have limitless power, it's to a point were 80% of people are to naive to even see it. I'm even going to try to explain it to you because you're reality tunnel is incapable
rickyp17 11 months ago
@rickyp17 WOw, you dont know what credible evidence is if you come at me with that week sauce. That is not credible evidence and by proving someone elses statement wrong doesnt automatically make yours right. By saying "well they had discrepancies in their story so our story is right" No sorry but thats not right. The buildings did not fall to fast and when I hear that pathetic argument I know I am dealing with an uneducated child or Rosey Odonnel. Come on kid. No controled demolition. HAHAHA
db10001110101 11 months ago
@db10001110101 mention their are countless theories, some not so credible others very.. you are arrogant as i said before.. and i do not come close to beleiving anything i hear, i do non-baised research on 9/11 unlike most people.
rickyp17 11 months ago
@rickyp17 Really find one credible non-biased evidence to support one truther claim that has a positive peer-review, wait sorry there isnt one. Thats where you guys fall short. No credible supporting evidence.
db10001110101 11 months ago
@db10001110101 you are fucking stupid just straight stupid, this is what you just said there is not one peice of Able to be believed; convincing peice of evidence, their most definetly is, and all you arrogant people say that same fucking thing, you and fucking Greywolf.. which is not the majority of people as you can see by the likes and dislikes with most 9/11 videos.. maybe majority in the non youtube world, but all the evidence on youtube is liked more then is is disliked, essentially
rickyp17 11 months ago
@db10001110101 providing you with all that peer reviewed credible evidence, you are clueless
rickyp17 11 months ago
@rickyp17 That is not peer-reviewed credible evidence and ifyou cannot see that then I hope you didnt spend 2 much on your college education kid. Sorry but you may have not gotten to that at whatever junior college you go to. The reason I have asked for peer-reviewed work for your side is because there is none. Sorry not one. The only two works for your side that have been summitted to peer-review didnt pass retard. Nanothermite, impossible falling time, all of it failed kid like you.
db10001110101 10 months ago
@rickyp17 So far you have shown yourself to be a hypocrit. You have ignored and refused to except evidence avecause it is obvious that you havent looked. You have shown you dont know the meaning of the word credibility, and you seem to be living in a fantasy world were the government is so evil and everything you hear that is bad about them you believe even when all your informayion is completely without credibility or positive peer-revission.
db10001110101 11 months ago
@db10001110101 HAHAH, yeah beacuse you know how i've come to the conclusions i have. I never said that it would automatically make anything else right? don't put words in my mouth. I am merely suggesting further investigation? is that wrong? you don't know shit about me, and you saying all my information is NOT credible doesn't mean shit to me? that is just you saying that! it is proven they fell at near freefall speeds, and into their own footprint, the collapses are very suspicious.. not to
rickyp17 11 months ago
@rickyp17 You are making my point for me. I am going off of a confirmed observation I have made from your comments. The buildings did not fall at near freefall speed and that has been shown. This shows that you are getting your information from a source that is not credible. All your comments have shown that kid and you still cant seem to understand that. I am not guessing I can read what you write and I have more knowledge than you and can do research how it is suposed to be conducted.
db10001110101 11 months ago
@db10001110101 okay show me this oh so CREDIBLE source that debunks them, you don't understand credible is an opinion.
rickyp17 11 months ago
@rickyp17 You keep shpwing that you need an education. Credibility is not an opinion and try telling that to a college professor when you turn in a paper. They will laugh at you because you would ahve to be a complete moron to make that statement. You also say that there are so many people who like these videos so that must mean something, but it doesnt. Thats an argument for supriority and thats what truthers try to say peer-review is. Get an education moron.
db10001110101 11 months ago
@db10001110101 ..First of all their are college professors that are for the truth movement(fact), so is that CREDIBLE? second of all that is a completely incomparable situation, i assure you i can hand in a paper with what professors consider credible evidence on 9/11 being an inside job easily.
rickyp17 11 months ago
@rickyp17 No you cant you just said crediblity was an opinion and you mentioned the building falling at near free fall speed but that isnt true. You are just lying kid. Sorry but youtube videos are not evidence and you need an education. Maybe that shit will fly at whatever junior college you went to but not my university.
db10001110101 11 months ago
@db10001110101 wow, watch some robert anton wilson videos, and some quantuam mechanics/ physics, then maybe you might understand what i am trying to tell you.
rickyp17 11 months ago
@rickyp17 Wow, yu have just shown how in need of an education you are. You said crediblity was an opinion and know you think you can educate me? What the fuck is wrong with you kid? You said the buildings fell at neer free fall speed but that is not true. You are a liar and a moron. Boh buildings took more then 9.22 seconds to fall which would be free fall speed and in fact one of the buildings took more then twice as long to fall then 9.22 sec and the other took almost twice as long.
db10001110101 11 months ago
@rickyp17 You really need to stop lying and start reading and quit watching biased youtube videos made by people as uneducated as you are kid. You are a moron.
db10001110101 11 months ago
@db10001110101 haha i said what is consider fucking credible is opinion, which is the case most of the time! you are fucking dumb i could give a fuck about proving anything to you now.
rickyp17 11 months ago
@rickyp17 All you have provided so far was repeating bullshit that moron came up with. You didnt check the information by using a credible source and you decided to makeit your opinion what is credible to you and wa=hat isnt and that make you a fool. You have ust said that and you are 2 fuckin stupid to realize it. You are your 9/11 truther buddies can lie to eachother but dont get mad when sane people laugh at you.
db10001110101 11 months ago
@db10001110101 did i not already say i could give a fuck about your arrogance? You're fucking stupid, you first of all assume that you fucking KNOW my whole thought process. I drew my opinion from watching about every debunking video i could, for both sides. Then i checked the facts with my own research online. All the shit you refer to as credible such as the great "NIST and "FEMA" reports, DO have disrepancies in them, not to mention the 1000 of engineers, architechts, and pilots that question
rickyp17 11 months ago
@rickyp17 Listen you litte retarded hypocrit. You are saying trying to say what I consider credible without even knowing what I am talking about, but you have given me your entire thought process etard. You have told me I havent just assumed. You say things that are not true and not supported by evidence that you saw on a video which yourself have said and then did internet research which probably has been on truther sites that continue to lie to you. 1000 compared to hundreds of thousands.
db10001110101 11 months ago
@rickyp17 When scientist with degrees in field that are related to the topic explain why the buildings fell without saying complete nonsense like nanothermite or controlled demolition, which it wasnt, and explain how it happened and then people without degrees in any area relating to the topic come up with crazy ideas of what went down that can easily be disproved but the ignorant believe what they want. Sorry but every 9/11 truther claimof what happened has been shot down kid.
db10001110101 11 months ago
@rickyp17 Thats why your side has not one positive peer-review of their work, and its not because other people are worried about getting fired for agreeing with them because that is a joke because peer-review is almost always done anonymously so quite making excuses and just admit you want to be wrong and ignorant instead of actually knowing anything about anything. When you live your life surrounded by beliefs that are wrong you are livng a lie.
db10001110101 11 months ago
@db10001110101 WOW, you are not even worth my time. typical falser shit keep claiming the same bullshit over and over when their are clearly credible degrees in the field that think it was an inside job this is fact! You are just plain stupid. I keep proving how the thing you keep trying to say over and over again is wrong like counter what i say? stop saying the same stuid shit. It's funny how like four or five comments and you KNOW my whole thought process too? haha and i'm the stupid one..
rickyp17 11 months ago
@rickyp17 Yes you are the stupid one. That is a fact. When you say things like the impossible fall times but you havent explained how they were impossible, you just repeated something you saw on a video without looking for the truth. You probably dont even know how long they fell or why thy fell. It has been explained retard. Just because there are people with degrees who think it was an inside job doesnt prove it was and I am sorry you cant figure that out especially when more people disagree.
db10001110101 11 months ago
@db10001110101 it to fall between 35-45 seconds. You are the one who never looked at this with your eyes WIDE open not me.
rickyp17 11 months ago
@rickyp17 Wow, who ever told you that is a moron. You need to quit watching videos and read for a change. Thats whats wrong with people they think by watching a view biased videos made by people with little to no education that you now have a valid argument against credible people with credibkle evidence with a great deal of education. Sorry but physicist have proven you and your uneducated cronies worng kid. Sorry you didnt go to college.
db10001110101 10 months ago
@rickyp17 Sorry but this whole conspiracy is bullshit because not one person involved has