Do NOT get flu shot. 2 french biological students, Laurent Bomono&Gabriel Ferez were murdered in june by Israeli, British intelligence assasination teams. They found the link between the H-7 vaccine which is supposeded to neutralize the avian flu virus had been spliced using DNA to actually create the illness. Also the vaccine has links to the British and Israeli laboratories associated with the noted Mossad agent, Dr Phillip M. Zackerie AMERICAN FREE PRESS.comment keeps getting removed.
thanks izzy for that info.i am 76 nbow and in my ignorance had the flu jab last year BUT will not be having any more PRICKS this time.i have taken note of your vitamins to take and will be shopping soon for same.can you help me with the dosage or will i get it on the container?we are still having chem trails every dat and the town is full of sheep.i appreciate your excellent effort to keep this news to the fore.i have a bad lung disease and am on oxygen.life aint easy some of the timeeh?
go to a health shop and speak to person in shop regarding doses but must be slow release and no aspartame, Unless you do it on the net. Should list the indgredients, If you need more advice let me no matey xxxxx
variolation = deliberately infecting people with virus to protect them from the worst type of the disease, had been practised in China past 2000 y - pustules of patients with a mild form of the disease (variola minor). The disease = a less-dangerous form than when contracted naturally. The method was popularized in England in 172122 by Lady Mary Wortley Montagu; used by Turks, Chinese and other peoples 1000's y. Virus research is very very advanced (beyond Jenner)+ could always be weaponised
viruses can transfer genetic material between different species of host, + are extensively used in genetic engineering. Viruses also carry out natural "genetic engineering": a virus may incorporate some genetic material from its host as it is replicating, and transfer this genetic information to a new host, even to a host unrelated to the previous host. This is known as transduction, and in some cases it may serve as a means of evolutionary change-Interesting hey- maybe a new race is ensuing
ALL viruses (i.e HEP A,B,C, HIV, smallpox, cold, chickenpox, influenza, shingles, herpes, polio, rabies, Ebola, hanta fever may be devised by man to kill. In 1898 Loeffler + Frosch found 1st virus= foot + mouth disease in cows- an infectious particle smaller than any bacteria.This was the first notion of virus. Viruses themselves have no fossil record.
People in power use disease (famine) and wars to eliminate excess people. The dropping of insects/BW from the air is entirely feasible, + Chinese + North Korean evidence credible. It is on the record that the closely coordinated Canadian and US programs developed insect vectors and air-drop munitions during WWII, through the Korean War era and after. By the early 1950s the US Civil Defense Agency was producing training films warning of insect-vector BW. Vaccines exist prior for in- group
And finally, if you don't want to take the shot: don't. The influenza strain will quickly find you to be a nice warm host while it fills your lungs with fluid and you slowly drown. A pandemic is coming. Farming techniques in asia, easy international travel, and a population that refuses to protect itself are all breeding grounds for a disaster. But, what do I know? I just work in a hospital.
YOu are very barinwashed then MATE Look in the sky of course one is due they spraying it in the air wake up cos people like you in hospitals should be awake i will send you a video explaining this i got this information re Vitamin C from a doctor
To assume that we have to now be utterly dependent on scientists for our health is a dangerous and abhorrent assertion.
Our best defense against any disease, is to be found within our food. It is most interesting to note that those Asian flus that you cite, are recent developments. The ancient polyculture systems have existed for many thousands of years & only changed following the introduction of anti biotics.
Fascinating. Are you a trained medical professional? I don't think so. Lets go over some of the errors we have here. 1. The virus can't mutate from person to person after a vaccination because you're not given live virus. It's fragments of its protein coat are all thats required to stimulate an immune response. 2. The strain delivered is based on projections of what appears to be emerging in the population. This is based on an educated guess, so most vaccines are provided in a multi-valent form.
3. Colloidal silver can be toxic and will interact with medications such as tetracycline, penicillamine, and quinolone antibiotics. 4. However, this point was spot-on. Plenty of fresh fruits and vegtables with exercise are key to good health. And forget the chemtrails bit. Any virus disperial from altitude would be killed by UV radiation, ozone, SO2, and many other air pollutants.
Trained medical professional hello there are just repeaters mate, have you not learnt anything the education system is a repeating system,illumnati brainwashing at its best. Also doctors kill more people with toxic chemicals in there drugs than any other thing in the world, The pill companies MAKE MONEY FROM CREATING cures that dont work and cause more problems, than anything else in the world. Natural Healthy way everytime you stick to your MADMADE Chemicals
To assert a superior position based upon your level of indoctrination falls short of much older understandings.
The introduction of dead tissue cultures directly into the bloodstream is in direct contrast to the way in which nature responds to dis-ease.
Your problem is that you are part of an industry that is orientated around profit, it has no interest in assisting health, but rather seeks to feed only symptoms in the vast majority of scenarios.
"The introduction of dead tissue cultures directly into the bloodstream is in direct contrast to the way in which nature responds to dis-ease". Not quite what I said, but in any event, incorrect. Macrophages use the stripped-off antigens from any foreign body they encounter to muster a defense, either by initiation of complement or by humoral immunity. Previous exposure to an antigen speeds response by the memory T cells.
1 of 2 Whilst we all apreciate that the things that have motivated medical professions to enter in to the industry (for that is what it is) do so for altruistic reasons.
Your argument falls into a trap. The science makes no sense and is based upon a reductionist approach that is all too typical of todays corporate sponsored medicine.
2 of 2. fear. The idea that you make a physiology stronger by repeatedly attacking the immune system into responding to antigens alone is by its very nature alelopathic. This is supported by the increasing numbers of reports of adverse vaccine reactions, autism and even death by the unfortunate recipients.
Next you will be telling us that rat poison (fluoride is good for us). That is the claim made by your indoctrinated medical profession.
Actually, its our overly sterile response to the antigenic challenges that encourages the reactions in the first place. Polio became a major health threat once natural exposure to the virus was interrupted by the cleaner enviornments of 1950s life. Mutation and a population that was immunologically naive to the virus made life a nightmare for millions. You should be old enough to remember that.
And lets see what immunization has given us: Smallpox. Eliminated in the wild. Polio: Eliminated in Westernized nations. Diptheria, Rubella, Mumps, etc. All major killers of kids. Not gone, but at least controlled.
Smallpox, oh yeah, the plague that swept through Europe AFTER vaccination programs!!
Please read some history. For a timeline search "Vatican's Medical Inquisition".
The other dis-eases you cite are infections that have direct relationships with the living conditions.
A simple hypothesis that relates to all life forces. Stress and dis-ease along with parasitic attacks are all a reaction to suboptimal conditions. Remove these and the organisms resist attack
I've read "Guns, Germs, and Steel", "The Coming Plague", "Hot Zone", etc. I've also read Lange's "Medical Microbiology and Immunology", Levett's "Anaerobic Microbiology", and Stolley's "Investigating Diease Patterns", among many others. I know what the hell I'm talking about. A naive population cannot resist the onslaught of a virulent pathogen, irregardless of food or other stressors. Human populations simply don't have the genetic variation. We die.
I too have read the same publication. It seems to be a favourite of University reading lists... I wonder why?! As for the others, I confess not to have delved into the reductionist view of soil microbes. You see I see them very differently, you see them as the e enmy, I see them as part of the web of life. I am sure that you know what the Hell you are talking about, but your references will be limited to orthodox dogma. Do you know anything of dietry means to re-inforce the imune system?
underlying conditions (poverty, squalor, poor nutrition) can be manipulated by rulers to make it more likely individuals die quicker when a pathogen is active. This may be the plan for us starting with the collapse of economy, followed by food shortages, banning of vitamins, poor mental health (under the umbrella of global warming and terrorism). Web of life = whoever holds the gun to your head wins
Diptheria, Rubella, Mumps, etc. All major killers of kids? Or was it the disgusting conditions they were expected to live under.
You see it would simply not do, to point the fingure at the underlying causes of disease.
Good food and attention to sanitation are all that is needed. The last thing to do is to trust corrupt institutions and governments, especially when they contain a legacy of Eugenics.
It is so pertinent that you raise the spectre of Polio. This dis-ease is well known to be 1 that exploits fecal oral route. This happens where? In places where the population are suffering in abject poverty.
Sanitation & good food r the answer 2 all of these problems.
The junk science history of vaccinations shows us how insane the notion really is. It is a tool 2 infect people. Have you not read about the bioweapons programs & links between AIDS and WHO vaccination programs?!!
Hmmm. So why the polio epidemics of the 50s in the affluent West? Again, natural mutation and an immunologically naive population. Yes, food and sanitation does have an effect, but prior exposure is a greater determinant of mortality. Example: The accidental and intentional introductions of smallpox to Native Americans by the Conquistadores and then by the English settlers.
Additionally, look at places where vaccination is not being done for "religous" reasons. In Nigeria alone, the rate has jumped some 350% in one year, from 175 to 612 new cases. All things being equal, it sure seems that those kids would've rather had the shot versus paralysis and possible aspyxiation. As far as links between AIDS and WHO vaccination programs. Sorry. Analysis of the HIV genome shows it to have been around at least 100 years. We entered a new environment and are paying for it.
And now we turn to Africa where epidemics are constant and ongoing. Do you seriously expect me not to refer you to the adverse effects of colonisation and the declarations of the Eugenics movement. So all things are not equal and the manifestation of diseases and plagues goes hand in hand with western medicine and the imposition of what is laughingly called civilisation.
The problem here is that your argument always follows the same path. This path is the only one you have been given.
The argument I have proposed is one whereby it is the underlying conditions that are causative of dis-ease. Hey presto the next example you cite is one where the population had been enduring rationing and housing conditions were tough with many living in prefabs. I do agree with you in one respect though. The environment in which we grow up has a huge influence upon us.
And for the record, I got into pharmacy because I like helping folks and I LOVE the intellectual challenge of it. Always looking for a place to teach.
I hear what you are saying but please address this outbreak to be with an open mind as i said we need you guys awake to there manipulation. Watch the videos i sent you they are very interesting. I use a dna defense that enhances T cell activatey
For your record, we sit here tapping out this information 4 exactly the same reason.
One very important difference between us though is this. Those who c what has been occuring (especially in this millenium) have come 2 understand that the human race has been duped into a collage of lies. & we now spend our valable time, trying to share our wider understanding with all who will listen.
The medical industry, whilst amazing, kills more people/year than die in battle or from terrorist attacks.
"The medical industry, whilst amazing, kills more people/year than die in battle or from terrorist attacks." Interesting comment. Disagree. However, the medical industry has managed to knock back the major killers of humankind. More people are alive today than ever. We are fortunately starting to get away from war as a means of settling differences. The duping; I'll chalk that up to organized religion (any) and fear mongering.
I am sorry to piss into your holy grail of medical science. Your claims are blatantly not true.
Modern ailments are the product of modern society and the contamination of food and the environment.
We do not appear to be getting away from wars! You've been watching too much telly. The military industrial complex is even as I write this, now turning its atention onto the people of the US and occupies over 160 other countries.
More people alive today, yes, but this is inspite of the monopalisation of resource, engineering of wars, imposition of unholy living environments by those that are avaricious.
People deprived of land become dependent on societal structures controlled and operated by the avaricious. And here we get to the nub of it. We have long since been deprived of the knowledge as to how to exist in this place without corrupting it. This has occured repeatedly (Great Inquisistion)
PS I am educated to, i have sent you some video's of a trained medical professional regarding this subject, i hope you wake up cos we need your skills at first contact in hospitals
Hey Izzy. Thanks for the vid links. Finally had a chance to view them. The point I'm trying to make is that the vaccinations are not the problem. It's the fact that overall nutrition is poor and exercise is lacking in many western nations. The viroids used are attenuated: in-active. The macrophages of your body use the antigens off the protein coats, in conjuction with immunosupportive cells (Ts and Bs) to create antibodies. Any vaccine is a wake-up call for the immune system.
For a more in-depth look at what viruses are and how to combat them: watch?v=7O9JPyY44VA This is an excellent series. Very to the point. There is a great deal of info on basic microbiology written for the layman out there. And as far as being a first responder; I don't have that privilige. My wife is an ER nurse and in my family, we've had all had our shots. Including Gardasil for our daughter. Be an educated citizen. Hear ALL arguments first.
I will watch it but i will combat all health issues with natrual stuffs only. But i am glad you took time to view the videos i send you. We need to wake people up to the issues they are helping to create due to sheer lazyness and lack of food education too many coporations making crap food making people have long term health issues.
Ok within the first 2 mins The rockafella Foundation school was shown, Querty NEW WORLD ORDER and illumnati this is what i mean these people are the problem please wake up
Sorry hon. No NWO. No ZOG. No Illuminati. The world is really just one big scary thing. Chaos. Nobody is at the helm. Never been. It just as it has always been, competing interests, fighting for the last piece of fruit on the tree. There is no vast global conspiracy. It would be a better place if there were, because there would be one locus of control. Reality is much crazier. We're so busy fighting over god-images and scarce resources, the crazies are winning. So much for logic and science. Bah
I understand your responses now mate, if you really think the nWO dont exist then we have a complete conflict of intrests here we will never agree, its all documented its fact, so enjoy your life and thanks for your input, Peace love and light to you
Yeah. I don't think we're gonna agree on too many things here. I'm getting the same headache as when I discuss evolution with Islamo-Creationists. Fun exercise in debate. Not much ground given. In any event, please read more on vaccination (all sources) and get immunized. I've seen too many people die from preventable viral diseases (flu, pneumonia, meningitis, diptheria). Young folks. Old folks. It's very frustrating.
Vaccines have side effects (including death) which is why the Vaccine damage payment unit exists. Aside from gm virus in the cocktails more often than not the preservatives (heavy metals) compromising the bodies own immune system and have directly contributed to the rise in auto immune disorders. My son was hospitalized AFTER childhood vaccines and still lives with the effects today - a healthy baby becomes seriously ill after a shot diagnosis "unknown virus". Shame on you!
1 of 2. To accept this notion you need to ignore one very important aspect of the dominant society structure that you experience on a daily basis. Look at the structure of a corporation. One or a small group of shareholders (who consult from behind the scenes) hold the reigns of CEOs etc who in turn operate in secrecy of the management and the people below them. Knowledge is compartmentalised and operates on a need to know basis. cont'd
2 of 2. So the pyramid structure that exists within monetary capitalism ensures that only those with privelage are in the know. The same applies to government and the superclass. Now add in the proven existence of any number of secret societies whose members attend global think tanks and the picture becomes clearer.
I wish your assertions were correct but the evidence of these secretive and demonic cabls is prolific.
yes i agree that poor diet and lack of education on nutriuents etc etc. But vaccines that are being introduced at the moment are in line with the illumati agenda, trust me hear look into all natural remedies for these virus is of the upmost improtance if codex is implemented we are all in very big shit. Also have you heard of the composer whi reversed protate cancer with IV Vitamin c. Interesting stuff. Also all the e numbers and aspartame etc etc put in food does not help peoples health
sound advise ms smart,, i have a room free in rural wales ,,,ace commmunity ..if u need 2 run call me.. im sick ov people just bowing to the slauters im not a nut,, get out now please iz we need to prepare all ov us,, its real peeeps run 4 the hills.
There isn't a cure for a virus...vaccines for bacterial infections, I can understand..they put weakened or dead bacteria in your system, and the body can make it's own antibodies so that when you get exposed to it again, the body already knows how to combat it. This makes sense. But a virus is not a living organism, it is essentially an code to invade a living cell and replicate itself. Izzy is absolutely right, get injected with it, it will replicate in you and learn how to spread to another
Right on Izzy. I agree, this vaccine WILL pave the way for mutations that can very well be spread human to human. Everywhere you look here in the states, they are really pushing the flu shot. Just a few short years ago you had to options if you wanted to get the flu shot, go to your doctor or go to the county health deaprtment. Now you will be able to get them @ wal-mart, pharmacies, gas stations, and strip clubs. I almost croaked of disbelief whenthe hubby came home and told me about it
I had to search it out for myself and sure enough, it is true. My husband pretty much thinks I'm loon, doesn't buy into these "conspiracy theories", but he came home last night, he said "ya know, i think there is something very wrong w/ the whole flu shot business." and that's when he told me about the gas stations and strip clubs. say no to flu shots people.
Yes, they think the sheep here in the states are thick headed. Bush is looking for or ready to choose one of his options for declaring martial law. It is not comming soon, it is here now. All the pieces are falling into place. Many problems, many reactions, and guess who will provide the solutions? Line up over here please, but stay behind the yellow line until your number is called . . .
somedays i wish there would be a mass revolution against all world goverments, just to make them stop killin people just for their own fun of doing it
nice research... once released its left to do its own thing.. or i think there are markers in the vaccine to make sure it works in your body. so when bird flu is released it will be much more effective.. oh brother here we go lol. get ya masks
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Do NOT get flu shot. 2 french biological students, Laurent Bomono&Gabriel Ferez were murdered in june by Israeli, British intelligence assasination teams. They found the link between the H-7 vaccine which is supposeded to neutralize the avian flu virus had been spliced using DNA to actually create the illness. Also the vaccine has links to the British and Israeli laboratories associated with the noted Mossad agent, Dr Phillip M. Zackerie AMERICAN FREE PRESS.comment keeps getting removed.
sallyos06460 3 years ago
thanks izzy for that info.i am 76 nbow and in my ignorance had the flu jab last year BUT will not be having any more PRICKS this time.i have taken note of your vitamins to take and will be shopping soon for same.can you help me with the dosage or will i get it on the container?we are still having chem trails every dat and the town is full of sheep.i appreciate your excellent effort to keep this news to the fore.i have a bad lung disease and am on oxygen.life aint easy some of the timeeh?
june1932 3 years ago
go to a health shop and speak to person in shop regarding doses but must be slow release and no aspartame, Unless you do it on the net. Should list the indgredients, If you need more advice let me no matey xxxxx
izzysmart 3 years ago
Izzy i was in ASDA on friday and they announced they were doing flu shots in the pharamacy :O - needless to say its NOT on my shopping list! Peace x
ascend2luv 3 years ago
no way my god
izzysmart 3 years ago
variolation = deliberately infecting people with virus to protect them from the worst type of the disease, had been practised in China past 2000 y - pustules of patients with a mild form of the disease (variola minor). The disease = a less-dangerous form than when contracted naturally. The method was popularized in England in 172122 by Lady Mary Wortley Montagu; used by Turks, Chinese and other peoples 1000's y. Virus research is very very advanced (beyond Jenner)+ could always be weaponised
Sasina06 3 years ago
viruses can transfer genetic material between different species of host, + are extensively used in genetic engineering. Viruses also carry out natural "genetic engineering": a virus may incorporate some genetic material from its host as it is replicating, and transfer this genetic information to a new host, even to a host unrelated to the previous host. This is known as transduction, and in some cases it may serve as a means of evolutionary change-Interesting hey- maybe a new race is ensuing
Sasina06 3 years ago
ALL viruses (i.e HEP A,B,C, HIV, smallpox, cold, chickenpox, influenza, shingles, herpes, polio, rabies, Ebola, hanta fever may be devised by man to kill. In 1898 Loeffler + Frosch found 1st virus= foot + mouth disease in cows- an infectious particle smaller than any bacteria.This was the first notion of virus. Viruses themselves have no fossil record.
Sasina06 3 years ago
People in power use disease (famine) and wars to eliminate excess people. The dropping of insects/BW from the air is entirely feasible, + Chinese + North Korean evidence credible. It is on the record that the closely coordinated Canadian and US programs developed insect vectors and air-drop munitions during WWII, through the Korean War era and after. By the early 1950s the US Civil Defense Agency was producing training films warning of insect-vector BW. Vaccines exist prior for in- group
Sasina06 3 years ago
good info as always
pat elle
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todd8137 3 years ago
Thanks matey hope you are well
izzysmart 3 years ago
And finally, if you don't want to take the shot: don't. The influenza strain will quickly find you to be a nice warm host while it fills your lungs with fluid and you slowly drown. A pandemic is coming. Farming techniques in asia, easy international travel, and a population that refuses to protect itself are all breeding grounds for a disaster. But, what do I know? I just work in a hospital.
magick205 3 years ago
Obsolute Rubbish
izzysmart 3 years ago
A not o LOL absolute rubbish completely disagree with you enjoy your jab mate
izzysmart 3 years ago
YOu are very barinwashed then MATE Look in the sky of course one is due they spraying it in the air wake up cos people like you in hospitals should be awake i will send you a video explaining this i got this information re Vitamin C from a doctor
izzysmart 3 years ago
How long have we lived in this place?
To assume that we have to now be utterly dependent on scientists for our health is a dangerous and abhorrent assertion.
Our best defense against any disease, is to be found within our food. It is most interesting to note that those Asian flus that you cite, are recent developments. The ancient polyculture systems have existed for many thousands of years & only changed following the introduction of anti biotics.
I for one will not b taking ANY vaccines.
pondman27 3 years ago
yes totally agree
izzysmart 3 years ago
Fascinating. Are you a trained medical professional? I don't think so. Lets go over some of the errors we have here. 1. The virus can't mutate from person to person after a vaccination because you're not given live virus. It's fragments of its protein coat are all thats required to stimulate an immune response. 2. The strain delivered is based on projections of what appears to be emerging in the population. This is based on an educated guess, so most vaccines are provided in a multi-valent form.
magick205 3 years ago
3. Colloidal silver can be toxic and will interact with medications such as tetracycline, penicillamine, and quinolone antibiotics. 4. However, this point was spot-on. Plenty of fresh fruits and vegtables with exercise are key to good health. And forget the chemtrails bit. Any virus disperial from altitude would be killed by UV radiation, ozone, SO2, and many other air pollutants.
magick205 3 years ago
I dont take pharmaceutical Drugs period.. I DONT GET ILL MATE HELLO HOW FUCKING ASLEEP ARE YOU
izzysmart 3 years ago
I wouldn't be too certain in your claim that aerosol distribution is not possible for virus.
We understand that the distribution is made using descicated tissues and as such, the virus spore will be encapsulated.
The use of aerial dispersal techniques has a long history and is admitted by UK and US governments.
pondman27 3 years ago
Trained medical professional hello there are just repeaters mate, have you not learnt anything the education system is a repeating system,illumnati brainwashing at its best. Also doctors kill more people with toxic chemicals in there drugs than any other thing in the world, The pill companies MAKE MONEY FROM CREATING cures that dont work and cause more problems, than anything else in the world. Natural Healthy way everytime you stick to your MADMADE Chemicals
izzysmart 3 years ago
To assert a superior position based upon your level of indoctrination falls short of much older understandings.
The introduction of dead tissue cultures directly into the bloodstream is in direct contrast to the way in which nature responds to dis-ease.
Your problem is that you are part of an industry that is orientated around profit, it has no interest in assisting health, but rather seeks to feed only symptoms in the vast majority of scenarios.
pondman27 3 years ago
Totally agree thanks for backing me up hear
izzysmart 3 years ago
"The introduction of dead tissue cultures directly into the bloodstream is in direct contrast to the way in which nature responds to dis-ease". Not quite what I said, but in any event, incorrect. Macrophages use the stripped-off antigens from any foreign body they encounter to muster a defense, either by initiation of complement or by humoral immunity. Previous exposure to an antigen speeds response by the memory T cells.
magick205 3 years ago
1 of 2 Whilst we all apreciate that the things that have motivated medical professions to enter in to the industry (for that is what it is) do so for altruistic reasons.
Your argument falls into a trap. The science makes no sense and is based upon a reductionist approach that is all too typical of todays corporate sponsored medicine.
pondman27 3 years ago
2 of 2. fear. The idea that you make a physiology stronger by repeatedly attacking the immune system into responding to antigens alone is by its very nature alelopathic. This is supported by the increasing numbers of reports of adverse vaccine reactions, autism and even death by the unfortunate recipients.
Next you will be telling us that rat poison (fluoride is good for us). That is the claim made by your indoctrinated medical profession.
pondman27 3 years ago
he thinks the NWO dont exist so kinder understand his response now. Thanks for your input matey
izzysmart 3 years ago
Actually, its our overly sterile response to the antigenic challenges that encourages the reactions in the first place. Polio became a major health threat once natural exposure to the virus was interrupted by the cleaner enviornments of 1950s life. Mutation and a population that was immunologically naive to the virus made life a nightmare for millions. You should be old enough to remember that.
magick205 3 years ago
And lets see what immunization has given us: Smallpox. Eliminated in the wild. Polio: Eliminated in Westernized nations. Diptheria, Rubella, Mumps, etc. All major killers of kids. Not gone, but at least controlled.
magick205 3 years ago
Smallpox, oh yeah, the plague that swept through Europe AFTER vaccination programs!!
Please read some history. For a timeline search "Vatican's Medical Inquisition".
The other dis-eases you cite are infections that have direct relationships with the living conditions.
A simple hypothesis that relates to all life forces. Stress and dis-ease along with parasitic attacks are all a reaction to suboptimal conditions. Remove these and the organisms resist attack
pondman27 3 years ago
I've read "Guns, Germs, and Steel", "The Coming Plague", "Hot Zone", etc. I've also read Lange's "Medical Microbiology and Immunology", Levett's "Anaerobic Microbiology", and Stolley's "Investigating Diease Patterns", among many others. I know what the hell I'm talking about. A naive population cannot resist the onslaught of a virulent pathogen, irregardless of food or other stressors. Human populations simply don't have the genetic variation. We die.
magick205 3 years ago
read the Sunshine Project
News Release, 29 August about China:
The Forgotten Victims of Biological Warfare for a full reality check
Sasina06 3 years ago
I too have read the same publication. It seems to be a favourite of University reading lists... I wonder why?! As for the others, I confess not to have delved into the reductionist view of soil microbes. You see I see them very differently, you see them as the e enmy, I see them as part of the web of life. I am sure that you know what the Hell you are talking about, but your references will be limited to orthodox dogma. Do you know anything of dietry means to re-inforce the imune system?
pondman27 3 years ago
underlying conditions (poverty, squalor, poor nutrition) can be manipulated by rulers to make it more likely individuals die quicker when a pathogen is active. This may be the plan for us starting with the collapse of economy, followed by food shortages, banning of vitamins, poor mental health (under the umbrella of global warming and terrorism). Web of life = whoever holds the gun to your head wins
Sasina06 3 years ago
Diptheria, Rubella, Mumps, etc. All major killers of kids? Or was it the disgusting conditions they were expected to live under.
You see it would simply not do, to point the fingure at the underlying causes of disease.
Good food and attention to sanitation are all that is needed. The last thing to do is to trust corrupt institutions and governments, especially when they contain a legacy of Eugenics.
pondman27 3 years ago
It is so pertinent that you raise the spectre of Polio. This dis-ease is well known to be 1 that exploits fecal oral route. This happens where? In places where the population are suffering in abject poverty.
Sanitation & good food r the answer 2 all of these problems.
The junk science history of vaccinations shows us how insane the notion really is. It is a tool 2 infect people. Have you not read about the bioweapons programs & links between AIDS and WHO vaccination programs?!!
pondman27 3 years ago
Hmmm. So why the polio epidemics of the 50s in the affluent West? Again, natural mutation and an immunologically naive population. Yes, food and sanitation does have an effect, but prior exposure is a greater determinant of mortality. Example: The accidental and intentional introductions of smallpox to Native Americans by the Conquistadores and then by the English settlers.
magick205 3 years ago
Additionally, look at places where vaccination is not being done for "religous" reasons. In Nigeria alone, the rate has jumped some 350% in one year, from 175 to 612 new cases. All things being equal, it sure seems that those kids would've rather had the shot versus paralysis and possible aspyxiation. As far as links between AIDS and WHO vaccination programs. Sorry. Analysis of the HIV genome shows it to have been around at least 100 years. We entered a new environment and are paying for it.
magick205 3 years ago
And now we turn to Africa where epidemics are constant and ongoing. Do you seriously expect me not to refer you to the adverse effects of colonisation and the declarations of the Eugenics movement. So all things are not equal and the manifestation of diseases and plagues goes hand in hand with western medicine and the imposition of what is laughingly called civilisation.
pondman27 3 years ago
The problem here is that your argument always follows the same path. This path is the only one you have been given.
The argument I have proposed is one whereby it is the underlying conditions that are causative of dis-ease. Hey presto the next example you cite is one where the population had been enduring rationing and housing conditions were tough with many living in prefabs. I do agree with you in one respect though. The environment in which we grow up has a huge influence upon us.
pondman27 3 years ago
And for the record, I got into pharmacy because I like helping folks and I LOVE the intellectual challenge of it. Always looking for a place to teach.
magick205 3 years ago
I hear what you are saying but please address this outbreak to be with an open mind as i said we need you guys awake to there manipulation. Watch the videos i sent you they are very interesting. I use a dna defense that enhances T cell activatey
izzysmart 3 years ago
For your record, we sit here tapping out this information 4 exactly the same reason.
One very important difference between us though is this. Those who c what has been occuring (especially in this millenium) have come 2 understand that the human race has been duped into a collage of lies. & we now spend our valable time, trying to share our wider understanding with all who will listen.
The medical industry, whilst amazing, kills more people/year than die in battle or from terrorist attacks.
pondman27 3 years ago
"The medical industry, whilst amazing, kills more people/year than die in battle or from terrorist attacks." Interesting comment. Disagree. However, the medical industry has managed to knock back the major killers of humankind. More people are alive today than ever. We are fortunately starting to get away from war as a means of settling differences. The duping; I'll chalk that up to organized religion (any) and fear mongering.
magick205 3 years ago
Go back to sleep wow we dont agree get over it mate, Have a great life just be aware
izzysmart 3 years ago
I am sorry to piss into your holy grail of medical science. Your claims are blatantly not true.
Modern ailments are the product of modern society and the contamination of food and the environment.
We do not appear to be getting away from wars! You've been watching too much telly. The military industrial complex is even as I write this, now turning its atention onto the people of the US and occupies over 160 other countries.
pondman27 3 years ago
More people alive today, yes, but this is inspite of the monopalisation of resource, engineering of wars, imposition of unholy living environments by those that are avaricious.
People deprived of land become dependent on societal structures controlled and operated by the avaricious. And here we get to the nub of it. We have long since been deprived of the knowledge as to how to exist in this place without corrupting it. This has occured repeatedly (Great Inquisistion)
pondman27 3 years ago
PS I am educated to, i have sent you some video's of a trained medical professional regarding this subject, i hope you wake up cos we need your skills at first contact in hospitals
izzysmart 3 years ago
Hey Izzy. Thanks for the vid links. Finally had a chance to view them. The point I'm trying to make is that the vaccinations are not the problem. It's the fact that overall nutrition is poor and exercise is lacking in many western nations. The viroids used are attenuated: in-active. The macrophages of your body use the antigens off the protein coats, in conjuction with immunosupportive cells (Ts and Bs) to create antibodies. Any vaccine is a wake-up call for the immune system.
magick205 3 years ago
For a more in-depth look at what viruses are and how to combat them: watch?v=7O9JPyY44VA This is an excellent series. Very to the point. There is a great deal of info on basic microbiology written for the layman out there. And as far as being a first responder; I don't have that privilige. My wife is an ER nurse and in my family, we've had all had our shots. Including Gardasil for our daughter. Be an educated citizen. Hear ALL arguments first.
magick205 3 years ago
I will watch it but i will combat all health issues with natrual stuffs only. But i am glad you took time to view the videos i send you. We need to wake people up to the issues they are helping to create due to sheer lazyness and lack of food education too many coporations making crap food making people have long term health issues.
izzysmart 3 years ago
Ok within the first 2 mins The rockafella Foundation school was shown, Querty NEW WORLD ORDER and illumnati this is what i mean these people are the problem please wake up
izzysmart 3 years ago
Sorry hon. No NWO. No ZOG. No Illuminati. The world is really just one big scary thing. Chaos. Nobody is at the helm. Never been. It just as it has always been, competing interests, fighting for the last piece of fruit on the tree. There is no vast global conspiracy. It would be a better place if there were, because there would be one locus of control. Reality is much crazier. We're so busy fighting over god-images and scarce resources, the crazies are winning. So much for logic and science. Bah
magick205 3 years ago
I understand your responses now mate, if you really think the nWO dont exist then we have a complete conflict of intrests here we will never agree, its all documented its fact, so enjoy your life and thanks for your input, Peace love and light to you
izzysmart 3 years ago
Yeah. I don't think we're gonna agree on too many things here. I'm getting the same headache as when I discuss evolution with Islamo-Creationists. Fun exercise in debate. Not much ground given. In any event, please read more on vaccination (all sources) and get immunized. I've seen too many people die from preventable viral diseases (flu, pneumonia, meningitis, diptheria). Young folks. Old folks. It's very frustrating.
magick205 3 years ago
No way i will take it mate Period sorry you wont change my mine, Enjoy your day
izzysmart 3 years ago
Vaccines have side effects (including death) which is why the Vaccine damage payment unit exists. Aside from gm virus in the cocktails more often than not the preservatives (heavy metals) compromising the bodies own immune system and have directly contributed to the rise in auto immune disorders. My son was hospitalized AFTER childhood vaccines and still lives with the effects today - a healthy baby becomes seriously ill after a shot diagnosis "unknown virus". Shame on you!
ascend2luv 3 years ago
1 of 2. To accept this notion you need to ignore one very important aspect of the dominant society structure that you experience on a daily basis. Look at the structure of a corporation. One or a small group of shareholders (who consult from behind the scenes) hold the reigns of CEOs etc who in turn operate in secrecy of the management and the people below them. Knowledge is compartmentalised and operates on a need to know basis. cont'd
pondman27 3 years ago
2 of 2. So the pyramid structure that exists within monetary capitalism ensures that only those with privelage are in the know. The same applies to government and the superclass. Now add in the proven existence of any number of secret societies whose members attend global think tanks and the picture becomes clearer.
I wish your assertions were correct but the evidence of these secretive and demonic cabls is prolific.
pondman27 3 years ago
yes i agree that poor diet and lack of education on nutriuents etc etc. But vaccines that are being introduced at the moment are in line with the illumati agenda, trust me hear look into all natural remedies for these virus is of the upmost improtance if codex is implemented we are all in very big shit. Also have you heard of the composer whi reversed protate cancer with IV Vitamin c. Interesting stuff. Also all the e numbers and aspartame etc etc put in food does not help peoples health
izzysmart 3 years ago
I heard the flu jab being advertising on the radio "its free" ect :S its so idiotic :/
xxpoisenandkissesxx 3 years ago
sound advise ms smart,, i have a room free in rural wales ,,,ace commmunity ..if u need 2 run call me.. im sick ov people just bowing to the slauters im not a nut,, get out now please iz we need to prepare all ov us,, its real peeeps run 4 the hills.
RedWyvern07 3 years ago
dont do it ,,, please dont get the jab its bullshit
RedWyvern07 3 years ago
There isn't a cure for a virus...vaccines for bacterial infections, I can understand..they put weakened or dead bacteria in your system, and the body can make it's own antibodies so that when you get exposed to it again, the body already knows how to combat it. This makes sense. But a virus is not a living organism, it is essentially an code to invade a living cell and replicate itself. Izzy is absolutely right, get injected with it, it will replicate in you and learn how to spread to another
dragonofthedawn40 3 years ago
Right on Izzy. I agree, this vaccine WILL pave the way for mutations that can very well be spread human to human. Everywhere you look here in the states, they are really pushing the flu shot. Just a few short years ago you had to options if you wanted to get the flu shot, go to your doctor or go to the county health deaprtment. Now you will be able to get them @ wal-mart, pharmacies, gas stations, and strip clubs. I almost croaked of disbelief whenthe hubby came home and told me about it
sammieluvsdoomy 3 years ago
I had to search it out for myself and sure enough, it is true. My husband pretty much thinks I'm loon, doesn't buy into these "conspiracy theories", but he came home last night, he said "ya know, i think there is something very wrong w/ the whole flu shot business." and that's when he told me about the gas stations and strip clubs. say no to flu shots people.
sammieluvsdoomy 3 years ago
Yes, they think the sheep here in the states are thick headed. Bush is looking for or ready to choose one of his options for declaring martial law. It is not comming soon, it is here now. All the pieces are falling into place. Many problems, many reactions, and guess who will provide the solutions? Line up over here please, but stay behind the yellow line until your number is called . . .
Mooncranker 3 years ago
somedays i wish there would be a mass revolution against all world goverments, just to make them stop killin people just for their own fun of doing it
wearechangemontreal 3 years ago 3
they are not injecting me with jack nothing!
TheValeterUK 3 years ago
nice research... once released its left to do its own thing.. or i think there are markers in the vaccine to make sure it works in your body. so when bird flu is released it will be much more effective.. oh brother here we go lol. get ya masks
COUNTCARDULAR 3 years ago