A lot of people are starting to utilize Judo moves in MMA. Wrestling has been the primary grappling system utilized by most MMA guys and the single/double leg takedowns are getting to be outdated and boring. Judo is more effective within a clinch because of the leg sweeps, trips, throws, etc ... it's quick and unexpected and that's the power of judo. Leben said that Akiyama is not a world class wrestler and he won't be able to take him down ... well, Akiyama took Leben down like 5 times... JUDO!
and a good throw has that wtf just happened to me effect too, it almost paralyzes youre attacker for about 3 seconds witch then again is more then enough
Fact is most people in the street actually walk around with clothes (shirt, sweater or jacket) and not just with shorts like in MMA.
So the chance of getting a good grip is given and your opponent getting thrown is going to land on concrete not on a mat or bouncy canvas... a good Judo throw must feel like a car crash if you get thrown on pavement.
And then even a shirt gives you the possibility of strangling your opponent with it
agree, plus in a streetfight, most people dont even know how to break their fall n probably will get injured or even break their back or neck. I've done judo for only a year but i still remember my first few classes everytime i got thrown i was thinking like WTF!! and didnt like it anymore coz didnt know how to fall properly. So it was the 1st thing i wanted to learn to stop getting hurt all the time. AND then this was done on mats, so imagine if it would be on the street :)
@ThomasMin1988 Judokas that learn Judo for competition and street defense do not require clothes (as demonstrated by Mike Swain in this video). half of Judo takedowns do not require much gi or upper control (leg based takedowns) it's a process of destabilizing your opponent, breaking their balance and then sweeping a leg for a takedown... in such techniques, clothes is not required at all. So yes, Judo is a very effective street defense art ... in general one good throw can end 75% of the fights
I'd even say higher than 75%. Someone lands on any hard surface from an uchi mata or a harai or a seoi, or even a basic footsweep, and they are toast even if they know how to break their fall. Serious leverage and power.
No, its pretty confirmed. Watch fight science. The force generated by an uchi mata is ridiculous. If a good judoka throws someone on pavement or wood or any hard surface with that, unless they are an experienced fighter that is used to taking pain they are toast. And even then, its much different than a good judo throw in mma, where there is no clothes to grab onto and there is a mat to land on. The hard surface of a street and the added leverage from grabbing clothes = HARD
@JudokaJames You are on the right track; recently they eliminated leg grabbing and some other throws. In kata, however, everything could be practiced. A misunderstood fact is that sport Judo is no so viable for self-defense. Now, I would say that it's NOT true at all.
@JudokaJames Absolutely, some underestimate Judo with no foundation whatsoever. The entire system of Judo encompasses a whole range of throws, strangles, joint locks, strikes even kicks; some of which have eliminated from Olympic sport Judo by the IJF.
I bought 2 of his DVDs years ago..."Basic Judo" and "Basic Grappling" -- awesome stuff. I was able to make foot sweeps and throws alot easier in karate after watching the first dvd ( guess he just explained how to do them better than my karate instructor ).
But how does it work on the street? It hasn't had alot of success in MMA, except the very times it catches a fighter by surprise. The new guy the UFC acquired, Yoshihiro Akiyama, is a former Judo Olympian or at least held some major championship titles. Satoshi Ishii is another one that joined MMA from the Olympics recently. He completely embarrassed the current UFC LHW Machida in sparring.
What does a situation in "the street" and MMA have to do with one another? A self defense situation vs. an intense physical sport? The UFC is NOT the "end all of martial arts". Its an incredibly intense sport, full of talented competitors. In the street? The Judo guy would walk away from it and the MMA fighter could go to jail for 1) beating the person to a pulp 2) labeled legally as a "psychopath" for lack of self control. The ring allows for anti-social behavior, society does not. Different
@Lechelover yes but we have to give credit to the fact that MMA is the combat sport that has come the closest to a real fight scenario. it is still miles away from an actual fight, but it is also miles past any other combat sport we have seen so far.
Judokas train, in good clubs, rigorously and throw their resistant opponents at full force. I have been in confrontations myself and seen others get badly hurt in pure street fights. When one is smashed fast and hard is not a joke. The victim could be crippled, suffer a concussion and or back, head shoulder injuries depending on the throw. Striking is also easier for the thrower who would finish you off fast and hard.
karo parysian has used judo very effectively in the cage/UFC. you have to be an elite athlete in any art to be able to employ it effectively in a real life situation or in the ring. Too many poorly trained practitioners of many arts or disciplines enter the UFC 'claiming" expertise in a discipline and then they lose and people say that art sucks. The more proficient fighter always wins; irregardless of the art they represent. styles don't win fights; fighters win fights.
irr An Olympic level athlete is better than any backyard fighter anyday. Its not the art that wins; it sis the expertise level of that fighter entering the ring. If a olympic judo guy gets in the ring with a high school or community college wrestler, the wrestler willmany times lose. does that mean judo is more effective? absolutely not; it means that the judo player was more accomplished at his game than the wrestler was at his, and therefore the judoka was able to impose his will.
I know karo hasn't been winning lately, but i never think it is his art that has failed him. he has panic attacks from anxiety issues, and he may have some personal issues in his personal life that are pressing him now, who knows? camps, diet, lack of training,poor cardio, etc. affect the outcome of a fight. or how about the opponent is just the better fighter that night, or better prepared? my point is judo is just as formidable as anything else is; bottom line is it comes down to the fighter.
Thai is pretty tough since when you spar even if you go light it's gonna suck cause shin and knees hurt and the clinch is sooo bad for the neck... As for the fights, well they are ... fights. I fight with headgear and shin pads so no great damage so far but at 175 pounds kicks and punchs are pretty heavy. I love it!
I'm from Milan, Italy. I train in a place near downtown called Accademia Europea, a nice place with a few hardcore guys and a lot of "kick for fit" guys and gals but that's ok. I'm mid way...
A couple of friends told me Slovenia is just beautiful! Take care, man.
Mike Swain is one hell of a judoka.
serekithegreat 1 year ago
dammnn... mike is fast
marcosinemb 1 year ago
A lot of people are starting to utilize Judo moves in MMA. Wrestling has been the primary grappling system utilized by most MMA guys and the single/double leg takedowns are getting to be outdated and boring. Judo is more effective within a clinch because of the leg sweeps, trips, throws, etc ... it's quick and unexpected and that's the power of judo. Leben said that Akiyama is not a world class wrestler and he won't be able to take him down ... well, Akiyama took Leben down like 5 times... JUDO!
pcjudosambo 1 year ago 2
and a good throw has that wtf just happened to me effect too, it almost paralyzes youre attacker for about 3 seconds witch then again is more then enough
tk01la08 1 year ago
I think Judo is very effective in a streetfight.
Fact is most people in the street actually walk around with clothes (shirt, sweater or jacket) and not just with shorts like in MMA.
So the chance of getting a good grip is given and your opponent getting thrown is going to land on concrete not on a mat or bouncy canvas... a good Judo throw must feel like a car crash if you get thrown on pavement.
And then even a shirt gives you the possibility of strangling your opponent with it
ThomasMin1988 1 year ago
@ThomasMin1988
agree, plus in a streetfight, most people dont even know how to break their fall n probably will get injured or even break their back or neck. I've done judo for only a year but i still remember my first few classes everytime i got thrown i was thinking like WTF!! and didnt like it anymore coz didnt know how to fall properly. So it was the 1st thing i wanted to learn to stop getting hurt all the time. AND then this was done on mats, so imagine if it would be on the street :)
FaridYM 1 year ago
@ThomasMin1988 Judokas that learn Judo for competition and street defense do not require clothes (as demonstrated by Mike Swain in this video). half of Judo takedowns do not require much gi or upper control (leg based takedowns) it's a process of destabilizing your opponent, breaking their balance and then sweeping a leg for a takedown... in such techniques, clothes is not required at all. So yes, Judo is a very effective street defense art ... in general one good throw can end 75% of the fights
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@pcjudosambo
I'd even say higher than 75%. Someone lands on any hard surface from an uchi mata or a harai or a seoi, or even a basic footsweep, and they are toast even if they know how to break their fall. Serious leverage and power.
JudokaJames 9 months ago in playlist mike swain
@JudokaJames so untrue.
WillTubeForFood 7 months ago
@WillTubeForFood
No, its pretty confirmed. Watch fight science. The force generated by an uchi mata is ridiculous. If a good judoka throws someone on pavement or wood or any hard surface with that, unless they are an experienced fighter that is used to taking pain they are toast. And even then, its much different than a good judo throw in mma, where there is no clothes to grab onto and there is a mat to land on. The hard surface of a street and the added leverage from grabbing clothes = HARD
JudokaJames 7 months ago
@JudokaJames You are on the right track; recently they eliminated leg grabbing and some other throws. In kata, however, everything could be practiced. A misunderstood fact is that sport Judo is no so viable for self-defense. Now, I would say that it's NOT true at all.
Fintolgano 6 months ago
@JudokaJames Absolutely, some underestimate Judo with no foundation whatsoever. The entire system of Judo encompasses a whole range of throws, strangles, joint locks, strikes even kicks; some of which have eliminated from Olympic sport Judo by the IJF.
Fintolgano 6 months ago
dwichagitime said it all,good comment my friend.
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GekulujKigihu 2 years ago
I bought 2 of his DVDs years ago..."Basic Judo" and "Basic Grappling" -- awesome stuff. I was able to make foot sweeps and throws alot easier in karate after watching the first dvd ( guess he just explained how to do them better than my karate instructor ).
JMMPR24 2 years ago
wow imagine that shit in a street fight. LEGENDARY! Judo is the balls!
garynotrashcougar 2 years ago
Hell, even in everyday use Judo would be useful. (for example, learning how to fall so that you don't break a hip or bust your head open. lol )
JMMPR24 2 years ago
Whats that last throw he did called in judo?
bustahmove123 2 years ago
looks like a left tai otoshi into juji gatame.
AvatarRoku 2 years ago
MIKE SWAIN is a BAD ASS! Awesome judoka!
moelicious416 2 years ago
A side suplex?
wtf is that presenter smoking?
Swain is amazing.
DannySMalone 2 years ago
yea why the hell is matt huges there? lol
maxbigwood 2 years ago
maxbigwood...because Mike is one of Matt's coaches. He trains in submissions and grappling under Mike.
xWhydoUcare 2 years ago
Judo is awesome!
Hotora86 2 years ago
how can you not be impressed? that's olympic level judo technique right there, son!!
zodom1 2 years ago
But how does it work on the street? It hasn't had alot of success in MMA, except the very times it catches a fighter by surprise. The new guy the UFC acquired, Yoshihiro Akiyama, is a former Judo Olympian or at least held some major championship titles. Satoshi Ishii is another one that joined MMA from the Olympics recently. He completely embarrassed the current UFC LHW Machida in sparring.
MPA2000 2 years ago
What does a situation in "the street" and MMA have to do with one another? A self defense situation vs. an intense physical sport? The UFC is NOT the "end all of martial arts". Its an incredibly intense sport, full of talented competitors. In the street? The Judo guy would walk away from it and the MMA fighter could go to jail for 1) beating the person to a pulp 2) labeled legally as a "psychopath" for lack of self control. The ring allows for anti-social behavior, society does not. Different
Lechelover 2 years ago 6
@Lechelover Man i have never seen such wise words on youtube, my hat is off u
ticosexy22 1 year ago
@Lechelover yes but we have to give credit to the fact that MMA is the combat sport that has come the closest to a real fight scenario. it is still miles away from an actual fight, but it is also miles past any other combat sport we have seen so far.
luchador1764 1 year ago
Judokas train, in good clubs, rigorously and throw their resistant opponents at full force. I have been in confrontations myself and seen others get badly hurt in pure street fights. When one is smashed fast and hard is not a joke. The victim could be crippled, suffer a concussion and or back, head shoulder injuries depending on the throw. Striking is also easier for the thrower who would finish you off fast and hard.
Fintolgano 6 months ago
karo parysian has used judo very effectively in the cage/UFC. you have to be an elite athlete in any art to be able to employ it effectively in a real life situation or in the ring. Too many poorly trained practitioners of many arts or disciplines enter the UFC 'claiming" expertise in a discipline and then they lose and people say that art sucks. The more proficient fighter always wins; irregardless of the art they represent. styles don't win fights; fighters win fights.
dwichagitime 2 years ago
Karo hasn't been winning.
MPA2000 2 years ago
irr An Olympic level athlete is better than any backyard fighter anyday. Its not the art that wins; it sis the expertise level of that fighter entering the ring. If a olympic judo guy gets in the ring with a high school or community college wrestler, the wrestler willmany times lose. does that mean judo is more effective? absolutely not; it means that the judo player was more accomplished at his game than the wrestler was at his, and therefore the judoka was able to impose his will.
dwichagitime 2 years ago
I know karo hasn't been winning lately, but i never think it is his art that has failed him. he has panic attacks from anxiety issues, and he may have some personal issues in his personal life that are pressing him now, who knows? camps, diet, lack of training,poor cardio, etc. affect the outcome of a fight. or how about the opponent is just the better fighter that night, or better prepared? my point is judo is just as formidable as anything else is; bottom line is it comes down to the fighter.
dwichagitime 2 years ago
I don't think that I ever stated Judo wasn't formidable, did I? I think my criticism was with Karo.
MPA2000 2 years ago
"Irregardless," even if it were a word, would not be the word you want. It's just "regardless."
NidisListenstoShit 2 years ago 2
thanks; my bad, i didn't notice that.
dwichagitime 2 years ago
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illbeatyoasslowkey 2 years ago
i love how the guy says congratulations at the end lol
Maldonado136 2 years ago
Nice execution and technique!
rogertangodotcom 3 years ago
Nice technique? DUHH its fucking Mike Swain.Hes a ledgend in Judo in my book.
Mayhemkid505 3 years ago
Hell yeah!! THe greatest Judoka ever produced by the United States!! AWSOME, PERFECT technique!!!
And nice to hear that the news reporter ACTUALLY knew what was going on! :-D
GREAT vid, thanks for the clip!!!
GJJFan 3 years ago
Good stuff!
nittyranks 3 years ago
So what was Matt Hughes reason for being there?
MPA2000 3 years ago
MPA 2000- Mike Swain is one of Matt Hughes coaches. He has many and he goes to Mike for some judo training.
xWhydoUcare 2 years ago
so what did Matt do? This was cut short.
MPA2000 3 years ago
Excellent taiotoshi without a gi and nice uchimata!
Fintolgano 3 years ago
1. one was kubi nage, 2. uchi mata and the third tai otoshi
cantwalkalone 3 years ago
wouldnt he have had to grip around the neck (like koshi guruma) for it to be labeled kubi nage?
molataz 3 years ago
mike and matt, that would be an awesome randori session to watch
durs313 3 years ago 9
Swain rocks...
KingOfBergenCounty 3 years ago 3
WOW
ikicku 3 years ago
His technique is INSANE!!!
zodom1 3 years ago 2
that was an amaazing tai otoshi
ArcticSheep 3 years ago 3
He flung that guy like a rag doll, perfect execution of a tai otoshi and uchi mata! this guy is LEGENDARY!
RedArtic 3 years ago 3
You don't see many tai otoshi look smoother than that, and he did it without the benefit of the gi. Awesome.
kylesteinhauser 4 years ago
Don't forget that nice uchi mata ....Looks Good!!
sappobbg 4 years ago
wow! look at that stuff! wow! congratulations!
erikrass 4 years ago
Mike Swain is one of the best throwers in US judo history.
jds986 4 years ago 3
wow
phaze88 4 years ago
'ok, watch out for the bar behind you' i bet he meant ' throw him backwards, theres a bar there so itll hurt more' lol. o yeah. hughes is sick.
a8rakadabra 4 years ago
Judo rules! And I'm a Muay Thai amateur...
valzgris 4 years ago 2
whats it like in muay thai traninig? is it hard? im doing judo but I'm thinking about muay thai too
judoI2 4 years ago
Thai is pretty tough since when you spar even if you go light it's gonna suck cause shin and knees hurt and the clinch is sooo bad for the neck... As for the fights, well they are ... fights. I fight with headgear and shin pads so no great damage so far but at 175 pounds kicks and punchs are pretty heavy. I love it!
valzgris 4 years ago
so where are you from? and in what club are you training
judoI2 4 years ago
I'm from Milan, Italy. I train in a place near downtown called Accademia Europea, a nice place with a few hardcore guys and a lot of "kick for fit" guys and gals but that's ok. I'm mid way...
A couple of friends told me Slovenia is just beautiful! Take care, man.
valzgris 4 years ago
I call that "smooth operator!"
kigawman 4 years ago
Swain pwns.
kylesteinhauser 4 years ago 2