ChosonNinja wants to say something about Haidong Gumdo

[MrMazrim]

Japanese would not waste time cutting paper. They just go straight to the straw and bambo instead. I've had som Tameshigiri practice over the years of doing Iaido, with this techniques they'd get stuck in the straw (not even having a bamboo core) with every cut.

[enushisama]

武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790) : Comprehensive Illustrated Manual of Martial Arts in Korea

【 It is the official document at Korean Dynasty, written by The Korean King order in the 18th century 】

國練兵之制三軍練于郊，衛士練于禁苑，其禁苑練兵盛自 光廟朝，然止弓矢一技而已如槍劍法技，既未之聞焉，

Archery was the only martial art that had been practiced by Korean soldiers. They have no skills of sword or spear fighting.

[sibainutarou1]

But rulers can. Not have a woodsword.

[sibainutarou1]

hahaha！　Imitation of Kendo

[ms06clyde]

South Korea is a cultural thief.

[ACFrenzel]

BTW: The art of asian swordfighting was brought to Japan and the korean peninsula by chinese and mongolian invaders....

To all of you who are sooo smart by comparing sword fighting techniques and its roots, please tell me about the differences between english and middle european medival swordfighting... There are differences but to most of the viewers, they look pretty kind of similar... And guess what? MAINLY THEY ARE!!! So it is for japanese and korean swordfighting....

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

@ACFrenzel "The art of asian swordfighting was brought to Japan and the korean peninsula by chinese and mongolian invaders"

There is no basis in fact. Disclose the information source.

"please tell me about the differences between english and middle european medival swordfighting"

Who is talking about European swordplay? Don't replace a problem with something else.

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

"There are differences but to most of the viewers, they look pretty kind of similar"

You seem to be weak in the head. If both Kendo and Korean jumping & spinning sword performance look the same to you, you have no right to talk about swordplay.

[ACFrenzel]

You are right , when you say Haidong Gumdo is not an ancient swordfighting technique. But its roots are from ancient techniques, wich was formed into a sports martial art in the early 80s. If you want to know more about it, read the Muye Dobo Tongji.

If you compare Haidong Gumdo with Kendo, you will see, that the dont have anything in common but the sword.

Kendo was also created as a sports martial arts in the early 30s in Japan. See "Kendo" by Kotaro Oshima for further informations.

[taihuu25go]

@ACFrenzel

Haodong kumudo is not martial arts.

It is Tate( fight scene) of the Japanese SAMURAI movie.

In recent Japan, Tate is used as fitness for youths.

And, by the Korean martial art that professes itself to be traditional martial arts in Korea, they never wear Korean traditional clothes.

陰流目録（japan）→紀効新書（china）→武芸通誌(k­orea）→武芸譜通誌

[taihuu25go]

@ACFrenzel

Background of Korean martial arts

watch?v=_Xz_6MUYHcM

殺陣アクションクラブ 2009 (Tate Action Club 2009)

watch?v=EKIfo3_zgZ0

this is actor's school.

not mathalart.

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

@ACFrenzel "But its roots are from ancient techniques... If you want to know more about it, read the Muye Dobo Tongji"

武藝圖譜通志 says "花郞徒衆嘗數千人, 相與勉礪忠信, 且新羅隣於倭國則其舞劍器, 必有相傳之術而不可攷矣, 今因黄倡郞爲本國劍之縁起." (original text)

"Once 花郞徒 put together a group of thousands of people. Because they were very dedicated to their study, moreover, 新羅 was bordered on Japan, Japanese swordplay must have been introduced into 新羅 from Japan, but there is no way to research it.

cont

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

(Because the swordplay must have been introduced into 新羅 at that time,) now we consider 黄倡 as the origin of 本國劍." (translation)

The author just directed his dreams to ancient times. It doesn't mean that Korean swordplay has actually passed down for generations.

[ACFrenzel]

Ok my friends... some facts about haidong gumdo:

First of all the name:

Hai =Sea

Dong = East

Gum =Sword

do = Way

All in all its just called "Korean sword fighting"...

In ancient korea there were two kinds of spread swords. A "Do" which is a short sword like a dagger (nowadays used for kitchenknifes) and a "Gum" wich is a long sword with a lenght of 3 to 6 feet.

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

@ACFrenzel

Moron. Kumdo / Gumdo is just a Korean pronunciation of 剣道 / Kendo. The word Kumdo didn't exist in Korea before the period of the Japanese protectorate and annexation. You are so naive.

[ireglk]

@ACFrenzel

do you know the word order of chinese character?

hai(海）dong（東）gum（剣）do（道）

海東 means "east of sea" and that is Japan

東海 means "sea of east" and that is the name they call "Sea of Japan" in Korea

[crowkiller61]

I think you should give people more shame you carry and nurse say things that other nation think they are his reality. Should be proud with what gave them their own culture and do not want to steal another culture. That sort of thing will never be welcome in the world as the Japanese.Note: this is what all people say that fools your government like that of North Korea that eventually are equal. Should be proud of what they really are.

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

Greg is no match for 王 san.

/watch?v=fCQEXq4lsdE

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

1.

Kumdo/Gumdo is the Korean pronunciation of Kendo and it was introduced into the Korean Peninsula from Japan during the period of the Japanese protectorate and annexation (1895-1945). Before that martial arts didn't exist in Korea. So it's never a traditional Korean martial art from ancient times.

It's true that Koreans began learning sword skills from Chinese and they called it 本國劍/本国剣 in the 18th century, but it didn't catch on.

/watch?v=xcc3_iBmMyM

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

2.

The first time Koreans used the word "HaedongKumdo/海東剣道" was in about 1982. It's not so long ago. In short, it's a fraud that they claim HaedongKumdo is a Korean traditional martial art.

Incidentally, the parties have already pleaded guilty to the HaedongKumdo fraud in a Korean court.

해동검도재판기록 (HaedongKumdo trial record)

blog(.)daum(.)net/_blog/BlogTy­peView(.)do?blogid=06zf6&artic­leno=9050199&admin=#ajax_histo­ry_home

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

3.

What Koreans are doing now is a creation based on Japanese Kendo. But because the new martial art required Koreans to make a difference from Kendo, they adopted flashy action stunts like jumping or spinning.

First, you Koreans must set out the records of HaedongKumdo before 1970s if you can.

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

4.

How about videos? Is there a film until 1980 showing HaedongKumdo?

How about pictures? Is there a picture until 1980 showing HaedongKumdo?

How about historical records? Since the 17th century many Westerners stayed in the Korean Peninsula. They wrote about Korean archery but any swordplay or unarmed martial art doesn't appear in those records. Don't you find this strange?

You Koreans had better admit HaedongKumdo is a fraud and stop spreading lies immediately.

[xXSkuraiXx]

@HaedongKumdoIsaLie No martial arts existed in Korea before 1895??? Are you retarted. What did the Kingdoms of early korea go to war with? The force?? Prove to me that no one in korea used a sword in battle before 1895. If you can do that then you win, otherwise korean sword martial arts did exist before the japanese (decendants of korea/china who took our sword martial arts and made their own from ours) forced their martial arts on koreans.

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

@xXSkuraiXx

I don't care about your dream or wish. You set out the historical records or pictures showing the existence of Korean martial art, and it will be OK.

[ACFrenzel]

@HaedongKumdoIsaLie :muye24ki.com/muye24ki/ssanggu­m_chongdo.jpg

Its a Picture from the Muye Dobo Tonji... also available at amazon:

Old Chinese is the use of form in ancient korea and is still today in special circumstances...

[sakura0jp0aikidodesu]

@ACFrenzel Guter Abend, armer Typ, kommen Sie hier

Japanese Katana Vs European Broadsword

watch?v=fxYvwEnKRjA

Japanese Katana VS European Longsword - Samurai sword VS Knight Broadsword

watch?v=EDkoj932YFo

but nobody tell the korean strange sword plundered by katana.

[HaedongKumdoIsaLie]

@ACFrenzel

武藝圖譜通志 / Muyedobotongji shows what Koreans learned from Chinese. The book got published in 1790. 武藝圖譜通志 says "然止弓矢一技而已，如槍劍法技，既未之聞焉". It means that they have skills of archery but have no skills of sword or spear fighting. In short there was no swordplay in Korea.

[sakura0jp0aikidodesu]

@xXSkuraiXx

korean history is concatenation with many intermittents.almost korean martial arts are halfway,since they don't have endurance and leave things unfinished. korea had many great budoka before 1950 past.

however they were killed by military government of Yi Seungman. he had killed 120 million citizen.

younger korean don't know The Bodo League massacre from 1950,since korean gov is discipline nation not any democratic.

[taihuu25go]

at 「Ninja - Tameshigiri」-korean ninjutu.

When is Japanese every going to admit they are Korean-Chinese descendants who stole everything from mainland and call it their culture?

Greg does not know the bamboo growing areas in Korea.

And, Greg Tatami Korea is believed that there was a culture.

[onihei800]

技術ができてないよw

[ALETF1985]

っつーか、最初から激しく間違ってるww

忍者じゃ無かったのかよ、なんだよその格好はwww

[enushisama]

She more better than they.

watch?v=_WOnXct68Fg&feature

[Oozaru400dbevolution]

he says everything is korean yet still calls things by the japanese names-he calls himself a true master of 'budo' at the end too even though he is 'teaching' korean martial arts, in korean it would be 'musul' not 'budo.'

[taihuu25go]

This is skill of the primary schoolchild level.

In Japanese kendo dojo to a primary schoolchild to kendo show children this play to let be interested.

But they do not use Takemitu which is easy to cut the paper such as the paper knife which Greg uses.

(it may hurt a person)

The Japanese primary schoolchild uses bokuto(bokken) which is bigger than Takemitu.

The blog with the video that a Japanese child cuts a newspaper in bokuto.

: //blogs.yahoo.co.jp/mirara1956­/59288496.html