Some history on this chapel: This is the Rogate Chapel at Concordia University Wisconsin. The school purchased the campus from the School Sisters of Notre Dame. So the chapel was originally "Catholic." However, I don't know what everybody is seeing that looks like a tabernacle. I was around this chapel for four years and I only saw one leftover in the sacristy. Up there on the altar is the Gospel, an icon of Mary on the left, Christ on the right, and as I recall, a slip of paper with a ...
prayer request written on it. Those icons belonged to my friend, not to the chapel. They were only there for a couple weeks. Before the altar is a little lecturn from which we read the Scriptures. I thank God that we inherited this space from the Roman Catholics, along with our greater Chapel of Christ Triumphant and Chapel of Prayer and Meditation. If LCMS Lutherans had built the place, I doubt we would have had a chapel like this at all!
I am an ELCA Lutheran from South Carolina. I play the piano and organ. Today (March 6, Transfiguration Sunday), we sang this as our opening hymn. I also played it as the closing hymn at a local Lutheran Church that I filled in at. It is #318 in Evangelical Lutheran Worship. So ends the Alleluia's until Easter.
Truly a revelation that Lutherans can worship in this form. The presence of the tabernacle and what it contains is interesting since I never thought that Lutherans would reserve the sacrament. Interesting.
@pipeup1 That is not a tabernacle. You're right Lutherans don't reserve the Sacrament. I guess I don't know what you're looking at. Maybe one of the icons on the altar. But even those are used by Lutherans differently than by the Orthodox.
@pipeup1 It's definitely not a tabernacle; Lutherans don't reserve the sacrament for adoration.
Leftover Communion elements are either consumed, kept in the sacristy for future use (bread and wine in the flagon only; wine in the chalice is usually consumed or poured out) poured onto the earth/buried or put down a special sink that empties directly into the ground, rather than the sewer system.
I dare say Lutherans were doing Matins and Vespers even before the Anglicans -- seeing as how they kinda got a head start on the whole Reformation thing ;)
I think the page/channel person "gasness1" who posted it is Lutheran, Concordia U. is a Lutheran college and one of the tags says Lutheran. I agree it looks RC or Anglican, but I think some Lutheran places use crucifixes and candles. Icons traditionally are Orthodox but show up in other traditions as well.
Yes, this is Lutheran, Missouri Synod. This is the seminary chapel at Concordia. The use of an altar, crucifix, tabernacle/lamp and such is very much Lutheran. We are sometimes called 'simple Catholics'. Celebrating the hours is something that is still done in a number of parishes.
@stpaulLCMSchurch Exactly: all the great taste of catholocism, minus all the calories :).... Calories are like the whole praying to saints thing and other such non scriptural stuff.
@brassspitoon Lutherans have a wide variety of Liturgical expression, from high church that rivals any Anglican or Orthodox liturgy, to high tech seekers services. I grew up in a Lutheran congregation that did beautiful high lit, especially on Festivals -banners, incense, torches, crucifers- but it was the spirit wedded to the liturgy that made it beautiful and profound.
Some Lutherans do reserve the Sacrament
RevWarRev 1 month ago
Some history on this chapel: This is the Rogate Chapel at Concordia University Wisconsin. The school purchased the campus from the School Sisters of Notre Dame. So the chapel was originally "Catholic." However, I don't know what everybody is seeing that looks like a tabernacle. I was around this chapel for four years and I only saw one leftover in the sacristy. Up there on the altar is the Gospel, an icon of Mary on the left, Christ on the right, and as I recall, a slip of paper with a ...
gasness1 1 year ago
prayer request written on it. Those icons belonged to my friend, not to the chapel. They were only there for a couple weeks. Before the altar is a little lecturn from which we read the Scriptures. I thank God that we inherited this space from the Roman Catholics, along with our greater Chapel of Christ Triumphant and Chapel of Prayer and Meditation. If LCMS Lutherans had built the place, I doubt we would have had a chapel like this at all!
gasness1 1 year ago
I am an ELCA Lutheran from South Carolina. I play the piano and organ. Today (March 6, Transfiguration Sunday), we sang this as our opening hymn. I also played it as the closing hymn at a local Lutheran Church that I filled in at. It is #318 in Evangelical Lutheran Worship. So ends the Alleluia's until Easter.
mkl62 1 year ago
Truly a revelation that Lutherans can worship in this form. The presence of the tabernacle and what it contains is interesting since I never thought that Lutherans would reserve the sacrament. Interesting.
pipeup1 1 year ago
@pipeup1 That is not a tabernacle. You're right Lutherans don't reserve the Sacrament. I guess I don't know what you're looking at. Maybe one of the icons on the altar. But even those are used by Lutherans differently than by the Orthodox.
gasness1 1 year ago
@pipeup1 It's definitely not a tabernacle; Lutherans don't reserve the sacrament for adoration.
Leftover Communion elements are either consumed, kept in the sacristy for future use (bread and wine in the flagon only; wine in the chalice is usually consumed or poured out) poured onto the earth/buried or put down a special sink that empties directly into the ground, rather than the sewer system.
RainShowers2505 1 year ago
I had no idea Lutherans did the Liturgy of the Hours, such as Matins. I thought that was strictly high church Anglican and R.C.
The internet is a wonderful teacher.
brassspitoon 3 years ago
I dare say Lutherans were doing Matins and Vespers even before the Anglicans -- seeing as how they kinda got a head start on the whole Reformation thing ;)
LittleDragon2000 3 years ago
They dont - this is RC.
Notice: Tabarnacle with Lamp. Crucifix. Icons. Name of Chapel is Rorate. This all says RC to me :-)
pipeup1 2 years ago
I think the page/channel person "gasness1" who posted it is Lutheran, Concordia U. is a Lutheran college and one of the tags says Lutheran. I agree it looks RC or Anglican, but I think some Lutheran places use crucifixes and candles. Icons traditionally are Orthodox but show up in other traditions as well.
brassspitoon 2 years ago
@brassspitoon
Yes, this is Lutheran, Missouri Synod. This is the seminary chapel at Concordia. The use of an altar, crucifix, tabernacle/lamp and such is very much Lutheran. We are sometimes called 'simple Catholics'. Celebrating the hours is something that is still done in a number of parishes.
61loneviking 2 years ago
@pipeup1 This is Lutheran. Lutherans are Catholic-Lite.
stpaulLCMSchurch 1 year ago
@stpaulLCMSchurch Exactly: all the great taste of catholocism, minus all the calories :).... Calories are like the whole praying to saints thing and other such non scriptural stuff.
Shocknlawl 10 months ago
@brassspitoon Lutherans have a wide variety of Liturgical expression, from high church that rivals any Anglican or Orthodox liturgy, to high tech seekers services. I grew up in a Lutheran congregation that did beautiful high lit, especially on Festivals -banners, incense, torches, crucifers- but it was the spirit wedded to the liturgy that made it beautiful and profound.
RevWarRev 1 month ago