@turnbacktime He's fringeelements nowadays. To see the recent controversy, visit the antifringeelements channel (brainpolice2's new channel since stodles hacked his channel) and watch his videos and his favorites. Disgraceful behavior in my opinion.
stodles.. ever since someone sent me a video with the message "hey watch this" 2 years ago, I have been unable to click on any subsequent shared videos. What did I watch? Stodles stroking one off.
From his early and lonely beginnings, making videos contending that race was a valid, anthropological construct and producing whack off vids, he became a doc-dropper and self-important anarchist on youtube.
I am simply shocked and dismayed with his progression. Shocked, I say. What does the future have in store for our young Stodles? Only time will tell, my friends. Only time will tell.
I thought this video might help me find out who stodles is ? but no , so if anyone can take the time or be bothered to inform me then that would be great , from what i hear though he is just a disinformed muppet nerd with too much time on his hands and a bit to the nazi conservative far right LOL , what a self loathing waster he must be ......
You made a comment that was intended to degrade me by basically calling me an idiot, then you try to claim that your action somehow had "no motive" when I called you out on it, but I'M being a jerk.
Look, if you dislike me, go somewhere else. But I'm not going to tolerate what is obviously bullshit, and I'm not dumb enough to believe you when you act like an ass and deny it afterwards.
I don't "dislike" you, bud, and I have no interest in "degrading" anybody. I found your video via related videos and pointed out what I saw as a pertinent error in language. If you can't take substantive criticism without perceiving it as a devious personal attack, I would personally suggest you detach yourself from the tube for a while and take a break.
Your goal was to somehow smear the content of the video by pointing out a definition error. Your final statement, "consult a dictionary", is basically asserting that I don't know what a simple word like "associate" means and is an attack on my intelligence.
My problem with you right now has nothing to do with whether I misused the word, but rather with the undertones behind what you were saying, and the fact that you denied them afterward.
Again, your presuming to know some conscious and devious goal behind my rather mundane actions is unsafe as I have better information regarding that and am under the distinct impression that no such goal existed.
How about this: what are you trying to achieve by your oddly aggressive and random interrogation? What is *your* goal?
Uh why would I retract what is technically correct? Directing you to consult reference materials in order to confirm the accuracy of a definitional point is not a personal attack and was not meant as such. Are viewers not allowed to criticize the substance of your videos?
You keep pretending like your goal was innocent criticism, but your tone revealed otherwise. I gave you one opportunity to admit that you were being an ass, but you instead chose to continue to be dishonest about your intentions.
Of course people can criticize the substance of my channels, but they don't have to be asshats about it. I've given you enough opportunity to not be an ass; you're blocked.
he's the worst kind of racist moron, the kind that's actually a really bright and intelligent person who inexplicably has crazy white supremacist views. i'm really baffled at the fact that he's such a smart guy and doesn't understand the basic idea that the melanin content of your skin has no correlation to your right to be treated with basic human dignity.
k, except there are differences between races, and he probably just had pride in his white roots. why do liberals demonize whites for liking their race/racial pride?
The girl should have went to her parents so they could gather info and go through proper authorities. People are innocent until proven guilty because we don't know the context and honest misunderstanding occur.
Stodles doesn't care if he wrecks the man's life, puts his coworkers out of business and uses a young girl to do it because he is a sick, narcissistic opportunist.
I like stodles, but this might cross my personal line.
But, I can't really defend Aaron, as he has crossed that line over and over again with his amateur psychologising. If you don't want to get dirty then don't play in dirt.
Aaron has repeatedly attacked the characters of those who don't agree with him with his blanket, amateuristic profiling, and even when I've tried in the nicest way possible to respond to these attacks, he simply deleted my comments.
I use to really like Aaron. He was one of the first people I subscribed to. I've taken special care to be cool towards him because I realise he's a very sensitive dude.
I could maybe even overlook his dishonest tactics if he hadn't, in the process, personally attacked the characters of everyone who disagrees with him, including myself.
What it reveals is something that's been obvious from attack videos long before this: stohdles obcessively digs for personal information on people who disagree with him and attempts to publically shame them and intimidate them, who is unable to have a debate without extreme personalization entering the picture. What it says about those who approve it is that they are so attached to their side of an ideological fence that they derive pleasure from seeing other people personally destroyed.
Actually, I had a lot of influence on how the current crop of anarchists around here think. What a lot of people are saying now, I was saying a long time ago. I was one of the first (or maybe even THE first) libertarian/anarchists around here to go rogue and throw "morality" out with the bathwater, so really, you have no idea what you're talking about. Thanks for trying though.
Why don't you also boast about being one of the first people to reveal yourself as a psychopathic asshole that uses intimidation tactics andshames people in comments?
It seemed like the whole "moral nihilist" meme was just a reaction to your finding out of Stefan Molyneax was the piece of crap that he is. I thought it was a fickle thing at the time. I guess I, RyanFaulkF, just grabbed a hold of it and made sure it spread out through the youtube community, so I could indoctrinate and inculcate my moronic drones(ModelAnarchist, NoCryingNowYes, nglazers, Enddepravity, etc.)
Stefbot actually doesn't make good arguments. He is just really good at arguing in real time, and there is a fine distinction between the two. Stefan is excellent at sneaking in non-sequiturs, and can pan-handle any honest debater with the Socratic method, but in the end, Molyneax has shown himself to be deceptive, and manipulative, and can't handle debate in nearly any other format, which is why he locks threads and blocks people that come to his forums that create good arguments.
But it's only a valid tactic if your sole goal is to win by points, concession, or forfeit. If you want to win a war of ideas against a huge, entrenched, multilithic nightmare that controls most of the media, it's not a valid tactic.
And again, You, personally, know this to be true. It's obvious in your writings that you're very intelligent.
But you set out to piss people off who are not your enemies. Just remember that while friends come and go, enemies accumulate.
You know what, you (xomni) should thank stodles. He singlehandedly proved the point behind your videos "thick libertarians" AND "Anarchists are stupid" better than you could at the *same* time!
Hmmmm, XOmniverse. Have you watched CS' video titled "youtube"? He said in that video word for word "I want to make this corner of youtube as bad as it can be". I'm honestly not sure where the intentions of his actions are there and why he is so intent on just making things miserable for us. I think one could make the argument this quote says something about his character, that perhaps because we don't agree with him he has to make our enviornment as bad as possible. I support your website.
True. Trying my best not to suck up here, I like your approach to this situation. I admire how you aren't trying to fuel the situation or make it worse just for the humor of it. I wonder if the former anarchist community on youtube is going to just go our seperate ways. I wouldn't mind checking your website out over thanksgiving though, it would be a nice break from this enviornment.
He's completely relying on the fact that other people have ethical views that sex with a 14 year old is wrong in order to make Aaron look bad.
In a way, it's more despicable than if he actually believed it was wrong, because he can't even claim to be outraged at Aaron's conversation; for him, it's completely just a means towards the end of damaging Aaron in any way he can, even if it means hypocritically appealing to other people's moral viewpoints that he personally rejects.
Yes, he is appealing to other people's moral viewpoints as a means to an end. But this isn't something new for him. It goes back to his "shelling points" strategy that he posted as a blogpost on my blog before I ejected him from it. He's done this before in other contexts.
your only hurting the cause. and i know... we dont agree on what "the cause" is but come on- are we arguing like little bitches or are we trying to invoke social change?
get off your high horses and fucking think about the real problems and how you can help THEM. not gloat over what YOU have a problem with.
Your neutralist view on this matter is skeed, politicalphilomather. Viewing this as two sides engaging in the exact same tactics is beyond ridiculs. Stodles s making an endless series of video attacks on people at an extremely personal level, digging up personal information on them and deliberately trying to tarnish hir reputations in real life. The idea that the people he is attacking have remotely stooped the same level is absurd.
it's SAD that this "community" in which i used to gain so much knowledge and understanding from has become so petty and focused on themselves and "how they feel" about shit that there are now plenty of reason for the non-anarchist community to not take "us" seriously.
I've pretty much had to stop watching stoddles and several others because its become to petty to endure. However I'm fairly sure Aaron has disclosed details about his business in the past.
I don't know dude.... 14/15 years old is stretching it a bit. I believe that anyone should be able to talk to anyone about anything. However, when you actually proposition someone that age, and ask then to stay with you and remove their clothes... you've got to be crossing some king of line. And I say this as one of the most perverted people out there. Even I would fuck a 14-year-old.
It disappoints me now that I have to side with stoddles on the actual debate (objective ethics) while simultaneously him conducting himself this way.
And it's not as if aaron was much better, I was seriously grossed out by his whole "asshole licking" metaphor especially when he was completely wrong.
It's such a shame that young people (of which I am one), the main people who are in the position of challenging social norms for the better, are also cursed with this childish bickering.
To be honest I've been subscribed to you for longer than anyone else involved in this and you are very much less to blame for this than others.
I'm probably going to be paying less attention to stoddles now anyway besides it doesn't seem like he has much new to say which I haven't already thought of.
You left out the part where Aaron invites Kathy to stay at his place as long as she remains topless during her stay. Trust me, aaron wants to fuck her. I'm not judging, I'm just pointing out a fact, and pointing out that you're not telling the whole story here.
No. I don't think it was a joke. I think he is genuinely attracted to girls that age. I myself like younger girls (just not THAT young). I too like to seduce (legal) girls online, so I can see what he's doing. I'm not out to judge him, I'm simply pointing out that it should be obvious why people aren't exactly cool with that and thus are reacting the way they are. It takes a perv to know a perv, and aaron is definitely a perv.
To be perfectly frank, you and Aaron have very different views on sexuality, so I think it's a mistake to assess his actions from your context, if that makes sense. He doesn't even approach it from the same direction that you do.
I think you are mixing the desire to fuck with the actually will to act on it . Which I agree that male will fuck a 14 year old. There is a huge leap to have the desire to act on it and feel the urge. Or everytime I'm looking to an women's ass I would have to tell myself i'm a rapist.
Those new wave of nihilists sure are working hard to show how stupid ethics is. How about they start explaining why they are doing those videos. The gymnastic they will have to do to avoid the use of ethics. It would be fun to watch.
I know right? Suppose I said "Fine, Aaron wants to fuck 14 year olds. So?" What could they say if they reject ethics? It's just an arbitrary preference, right?
They are clearly relying on the fact that people DO have a sense of right and wrong.
Not only that. If they used this shallow process they believe to be thinking. They are maybe trying to make a point by showing how ethic is destroying Aaron`s business. But they will have to explain why they try to show this by comparing Aaron having food on the table or with him been broke on the street. Since they will have to compare a positive with a negative state of the individual.
How can I take the people seriously and talk like adult with them when we see people like Machinelegion and Father0Blivion ? That is without counting the 9 thumbs up? really?
The vid was petty, but I'd also say it's fair game. I don't think this revealed anything about stodles to people who have watched any of his vids before. In the 2 years I've watched his yt vids he's been pretty consistent with the way he treats people.
Something tells me this vid would not have been made if Aaron hadn't made his. Let's try and stay consistent.
Also, legal implications!? Lol. You know an anarchist has a strong argument when he brings those up.
hm. Stodles posted the conversation and the "context" so if Aaron's self-esteem boost was reasonable why would this do any harm to his business?
lol, also, on the east coast its later, and its sunday, (a lot of people don't work on Sunday) and people set their fantasy football lineups before the 1 o clock games. =)
The problem is that most people do interpret discussing sexuality frankly with anyone under 18 as a sign of pedophilia.
In other words, Stodles is playing on other people's irrational prejudices and views on sexuality in order to damage Aaron's reputation. Mentioning his business is an attempt to damage his livelihood, as well.
I'm pretty sure adding the "if you were older" kind of makes it NOT hitting on someone. Hitting on someone is a deliberate attempt to engage in sexual activity with someone, which is NOT what occurred.
If you read the conversation, the primary focus was on Kathy's low self esteem, especially regarding sexuality and her view that she was not sexually attractive.
My ethics remain in tact. If you don't like them, go away.
"you are seriously a cute girl ... your expressions are adoreable" But wait, there's more "if I were a single boy and you were 18 ... i would be super willing to date you. I am more picky about philosiophy and stuff, but you have a huge advantage over most other girls. So I would give it a shot" "Rose and I would welcome you if you needed a place to stay .... but there is a topless policy at my house"
So what the hell is wrong with flirting? The girl could be married if she lived in Kansas, and is beyond any customary age of consent. (Usually between the age of 12 and 15.
No it's and opinion based on facts of reality. The fact that it is so consistent would imply there underlying facts on which the opinions are based on. It is the age at which sexual maturity kicks in as well as the desire to interact with the world on your own terms.
We consider other species as juveniles or adults on the basis of sexual maturity as well.
We don't know exactly, exactly being key here, when to consider one an adult. There is ambiguity between the stages we create and project onto the species.
does stodles have a new account
turnbacktime 1 year ago
@turnbacktime He's fringeelements nowadays. To see the recent controversy, visit the antifringeelements channel (brainpolice2's new channel since stodles hacked his channel) and watch his videos and his favorites. Disgraceful behavior in my opinion.
theganonslayer 1 year ago 4
stodles.. ever since someone sent me a video with the message "hey watch this" 2 years ago, I have been unable to click on any subsequent shared videos. What did I watch? Stodles stroking one off.
regratex 2 years ago
@regratex
From his early and lonely beginnings, making videos contending that race was a valid, anthropological construct and producing whack off vids, he became a doc-dropper and self-important anarchist on youtube.
I am simply shocked and dismayed with his progression. Shocked, I say. What does the future have in store for our young Stodles? Only time will tell, my friends. Only time will tell.
Azriencock 1 year ago
@Azriencock
what progression? his channel is suspended.
gratex 1 year ago
@gratex
It is now fringeelements. You didn't really think Stodles would just disappear into the night, did you?
Azriencock 1 year ago
Stodles is basically the Chris-Chan of the libertarian blogosphere.
vaguelyhumanoid 1 year ago 7
@vaguelyhumanoid
who is chris-chan? and who is stodles?
2k0ol1 1 year ago
Stodles all the way in 2012 !!!
geminidublinRETURNS 2 years ago
I thought this video might help me find out who stodles is ? but no , so if anyone can take the time or be bothered to inform me then that would be great , from what i hear though he is just a disinformed muppet nerd with too much time on his hands and a bit to the nazi conservative far right LOL , what a self loathing waster he must be ......
C4INED 2 years ago
@C4INED wtf? dude im with you, who is stodles?
2k0ol1 1 year ago
Stodles is a failure.
Rahab111222 2 years ago 3
You are "associating" with him... by making videos responding to his videos. Consult a dictionary.
asdfgasdfasdful 2 years ago
I don't interact with him directly.
What was your goal with the comment you made? What did you intend to achieve with it?
XOmniverse 2 years ago
Videos regarding other videos is as "direct" as it gets via video.
I intended to comment. There was no particular goal..
asdfgasdfasdful 2 years ago
You're lying.
XOmniverse 2 years ago
You're incorrect.. and you're being a jerk.
asdfgasdfasdful 2 years ago
You made a comment that was intended to degrade me by basically calling me an idiot, then you try to claim that your action somehow had "no motive" when I called you out on it, but I'M being a jerk.
Look, if you dislike me, go somewhere else. But I'm not going to tolerate what is obviously bullshit, and I'm not dumb enough to believe you when you act like an ass and deny it afterwards.
XOmniverse 2 years ago
I don't "dislike" you, bud, and I have no interest in "degrading" anybody. I found your video via related videos and pointed out what I saw as a pertinent error in language. If you can't take substantive criticism without perceiving it as a devious personal attack, I would personally suggest you detach yourself from the tube for a while and take a break.
asdfgasdfasdful 2 years ago
Your goal was to somehow smear the content of the video by pointing out a definition error. Your final statement, "consult a dictionary", is basically asserting that I don't know what a simple word like "associate" means and is an attack on my intelligence.
My problem with you right now has nothing to do with whether I misused the word, but rather with the undertones behind what you were saying, and the fact that you denied them afterward.
XOmniverse 2 years ago
Again, your presuming to know some conscious and devious goal behind my rather mundane actions is unsafe as I have better information regarding that and am under the distinct impression that no such goal existed.
How about this: what are you trying to achieve by your oddly aggressive and random interrogation? What is *your* goal?
asdfgasdfasdful 2 years ago
My goal is to make it clear that I don't tolerate asshole behavior and to get you to either retract it or leave.
XOmniverse 2 years ago
Uh why would I retract what is technically correct? Directing you to consult reference materials in order to confirm the accuracy of a definitional point is not a personal attack and was not meant as such. Are viewers not allowed to criticize the substance of your videos?
asdfgasdfasdful 2 years ago
You keep pretending like your goal was innocent criticism, but your tone revealed otherwise. I gave you one opportunity to admit that you were being an ass, but you instead chose to continue to be dishonest about your intentions.
Of course people can criticize the substance of my channels, but they don't have to be asshats about it. I've given you enough opportunity to not be an ass; you're blocked.
XOmniverse 2 years ago
where can i find this convo for the lulz?
chorizo1337 2 years ago
If I was Kathy's father, I might not be cool with aaron "boosting her self-esteem" in this way.
Sepero1 2 years ago 9
Thats cause you have old timer views :)
IndividualAutonomy 2 years ago
Where is Stodles?
SSENGNIHTON 2 years ago
probably somewhere masturbating in front of a camera
TheBigBadWoIf 2 years ago
stodles; a pest control test case
modelmark 2 years ago
What if you are the Kwisatz Haderach? Racist! You have to think of these things.
jim30333 2 years ago
he's the worst kind of racist moron, the kind that's actually a really bright and intelligent person who inexplicably has crazy white supremacist views. i'm really baffled at the fact that he's such a smart guy and doesn't understand the basic idea that the melanin content of your skin has no correlation to your right to be treated with basic human dignity.
PerennialLucidity 2 years ago
What white supremacist views?
stealthswimmer 2 years ago
k, except there are differences between races, and he probably just had pride in his white roots. why do liberals demonize whites for liking their race/racial pride?
chorizo1337 2 years ago
The girl should have went to her parents so they could gather info and go through proper authorities. People are innocent until proven guilty because we don't know the context and honest misunderstanding occur.
Stodles doesn't care if he wrecks the man's life, puts his coworkers out of business and uses a young girl to do it because he is a sick, narcissistic opportunist.
ngIasers 2 years ago
Stodles is an opportunist. He is not a white nationalist, anarcho-capitalist or even a moral nihilist.
He is also a demagogue trying to destroy his critics. I hope he likes my channel.
ngIasers 2 years ago 3
I like stodles, but this might cross my personal line.
But, I can't really defend Aaron, as he has crossed that line over and over again with his amateur psychologising. If you don't want to get dirty then don't play in dirt.
Aaron has repeatedly attacked the characters of those who don't agree with him with his blanket, amateuristic profiling, and even when I've tried in the nicest way possible to respond to these attacks, he simply deleted my comments.
Cailwyn 2 years ago 5
I use to really like Aaron. He was one of the first people I subscribed to. I've taken special care to be cool towards him because I realise he's a very sensitive dude.
I could maybe even overlook his dishonest tactics if he hadn't, in the process, personally attacked the characters of everyone who disagrees with him, including myself.
It's hard to defend someone so hypocritical.
Cailwyn 2 years ago 7
What it reveals is something that's been obvious from attack videos long before this: stohdles obcessively digs for personal information on people who disagree with him and attempts to publically shame them and intimidate them, who is unable to have a debate without extreme personalization entering the picture. What it says about those who approve it is that they are so attached to their side of an ideological fence that they derive pleasure from seeing other people personally destroyed.
brainpolice2 2 years ago 18
thats funny, he never did this to the amazing atheist
chorizo1337 2 years ago
@brainpolice2
Funny how the current events shade a video like this one.
SBRslacker00 1 year ago 6
single bed at 40 ?
IamPUDDiiN 2 years ago
Actually, I had a lot of influence on how the current crop of anarchists around here think. What a lot of people are saying now, I was saying a long time ago. I was one of the first (or maybe even THE first) libertarian/anarchists around here to go rogue and throw "morality" out with the bathwater, so really, you have no idea what you're talking about. Thanks for trying though.
D4Shawn 2 years ago
Why don't you also boast about being one of the first people to reveal yourself as a psychopathic asshole that uses intimidation tactics andshames people in comments?
brainpolice2 2 years ago
*yawn*
D4Shawn 2 years ago
It seemed like the whole "moral nihilist" meme was just a reaction to your finding out of Stefan Molyneax was the piece of crap that he is. I thought it was a fickle thing at the time. I guess I, RyanFaulkF, just grabbed a hold of it and made sure it spread out through the youtube community, so I could indoctrinate and inculcate my moronic drones(ModelAnarchist, NoCryingNowYes, nglazers, Enddepravity, etc.)
RyanFaulkF 2 years ago
Did Stefan attacked you directly that you call him names ? Or I you just butthurt because of his arguments ?
MaikUniversum 2 years ago
Stefbot actually doesn't make good arguments. He is just really good at arguing in real time, and there is a fine distinction between the two. Stefan is excellent at sneaking in non-sequiturs, and can pan-handle any honest debater with the Socratic method, but in the end, Molyneax has shown himself to be deceptive, and manipulative, and can't handle debate in nearly any other format, which is why he locks threads and blocks people that come to his forums that create good arguments.
RyanFaulkF 2 years ago
well, I kinda agree, it is one of his "flaws", though, he is a good philosopher.
MaikUniversum 2 years ago
Stodles/Ryan.. whatever.
I've enjoyed your philosophical videos and posts quite a bit. When you're not off on some weird tangent, you make a lot of sense.
But you attack people. Not their arguments. I've stayed out of it, even defending you before, but...
IT DOESN'T MATTER. Attack ideas, not the men who hold them. There is a very good reason that ad hominem is a fallacy. And frankly, YOU know it!
oh, and don't say it's still a valid tactic. I know that.
Kbiomech 2 years ago 2
But it's only a valid tactic if your sole goal is to win by points, concession, or forfeit. If you want to win a war of ideas against a huge, entrenched, multilithic nightmare that controls most of the media, it's not a valid tactic.
And again, You, personally, know this to be true. It's obvious in your writings that you're very intelligent.
But you set out to piss people off who are not your enemies. Just remember that while friends come and go, enemies accumulate.
I said my bit. I'm done.
Kbiomech 2 years ago
what 14 year old doesn't have self esteem problems, nothing to be ashamed about.
DeraJa 2 years ago
Yea, Stodles has real issues.
EdwardMandellHouse 2 years ago
You didn't get 5 or 6 replies from 5 or 6 different people, you got 5 or 6 replies from 5 or 6 of stodles' many personalities/sock puppets.
GentileReadingList 2 years ago
I don't care if Aaron and Rose do want to fuck a 14 yr old. If the 14 year old goes there then she made the decision.
UcanbeGOD 2 years ago
You know what, you (xomni) should thank stodles. He singlehandedly proved the point behind your videos "thick libertarians" AND "Anarchists are stupid" better than you could at the *same* time!
Shezmu 2 years ago
Hmmmm, XOmniverse. Have you watched CS' video titled "youtube"? He said in that video word for word "I want to make this corner of youtube as bad as it can be". I'm honestly not sure where the intentions of his actions are there and why he is so intent on just making things miserable for us. I think one could make the argument this quote says something about his character, that perhaps because we don't agree with him he has to make our enviornment as bad as possible. I support your website.
drew335533 2 years ago
I think his recent behavior tells you everything you need to know about his character.
XOmniverse 2 years ago
True. Trying my best not to suck up here, I like your approach to this situation. I admire how you aren't trying to fuel the situation or make it worse just for the humor of it. I wonder if the former anarchist community on youtube is going to just go our seperate ways. I wouldn't mind checking your website out over thanksgiving though, it would be a nice break from this enviornment.
drew335533 2 years ago
God damn it, I don't even care as long as she's over 13!
tiecuando 2 years ago
He's completely relying on the fact that other people have ethical views that sex with a 14 year old is wrong in order to make Aaron look bad.
In a way, it's more despicable than if he actually believed it was wrong, because he can't even claim to be outraged at Aaron's conversation; for him, it's completely just a means towards the end of damaging Aaron in any way he can, even if it means hypocritically appealing to other people's moral viewpoints that he personally rejects.
XOmniverse 2 years ago
Yes, he is appealing to other people's moral viewpoints as a means to an end. But this isn't something new for him. It goes back to his "shelling points" strategy that he posted as a blogpost on my blog before I ejected him from it. He's done this before in other contexts.
brainpolice2 2 years ago
I don't see why you should ever have to defend choosing to dissociate with another person regardless of your reasons or justifications.
I've always liked stodles, but lately his conduct has been disgusting.
ithinkronpaulissmart 2 years ago 14
your only hurting the cause. and i know... we dont agree on what "the cause" is but come on- are we arguing like little bitches or are we trying to invoke social change?
get off your high horses and fucking think about the real problems and how you can help THEM. not gloat over what YOU have a problem with.
(i am posting this for both parties involved)
PoliticalPhilomather 2 years ago
Are you asserting that my primary concern should be "the cause" and not people doing this kind of pretty shit towards friends of mine?
XOmniverse 2 years ago
Your neutralist view on this matter is skeed, politicalphilomather. Viewing this as two sides engaging in the exact same tactics is beyond ridiculs. Stodles s making an endless series of video attacks on people at an extremely personal level, digging up personal information on them and deliberately trying to tarnish hir reputations in real life. The idea that the people he is attacking have remotely stooped the same level is absurd.
brainpolice2 2 years ago
it's SAD that this "community" in which i used to gain so much knowledge and understanding from has become so petty and focused on themselves and "how they feel" about shit that there are now plenty of reason for the non-anarchist community to not take "us" seriously.
PoliticalPhilomather 2 years ago
5 stars
ExistentialExistent 2 years ago
I've pretty much had to stop watching stoddles and several others because its become to petty to endure. However I'm fairly sure Aaron has disclosed details about his business in the past.
lengthyounarther 2 years ago 2
Certain people on the internet are held in high regard by trolls due to the way they behave; stodles is one of them.
theVAGINAntichrist 2 years ago 2
I can't find your comment on the video in question.
Surhotchaperchlorome 2 years ago
He mentioned my comment in his "Youtube" video.
Ryan is a major disappointment.
ks100001 2 years ago
I don't know dude.... 14/15 years old is stretching it a bit. I believe that anyone should be able to talk to anyone about anything. However, when you actually proposition someone that age, and ask then to stay with you and remove their clothes... you've got to be crossing some king of line. And I say this as one of the most perverted people out there. Even I would fuck a 14-year-old.
D4Shawn 2 years ago 3
*even I WOULDN'T fuck a 14-year-old.
Wow. That was a pretty bad typo.
D4Shawn 2 years ago 3
lol
ExistentialExistent 2 years ago
It disappoints me now that I have to side with stoddles on the actual debate (objective ethics) while simultaneously him conducting himself this way.
And it's not as if aaron was much better, I was seriously grossed out by his whole "asshole licking" metaphor especially when he was completely wrong.
It's such a shame that young people (of which I am one), the main people who are in the position of challenging social norms for the better, are also cursed with this childish bickering.
sharperguy 2 years ago 2
I would've ignored it if the video didn't try to link this bullshit to Aaron's personal business. That's going a bit far I think.
XOmniverse 2 years ago
To be honest I've been subscribed to you for longer than anyone else involved in this and you are very much less to blame for this than others.
I'm probably going to be paying less attention to stoddles now anyway besides it doesn't seem like he has much new to say which I haven't already thought of.
sharperguy 2 years ago
Not to mention that he recently admitted that he will now act as nothing more than a troll in his called "youtube".
Shezmu 2 years ago 3
You left out the part where Aaron invites Kathy to stay at his place as long as she remains topless during her stay. Trust me, aaron wants to fuck her. I'm not judging, I'm just pointing out a fact, and pointing out that you're not telling the whole story here.
D4Shawn 2 years ago 5
Are you suggesting that that wasn't a joke? Have you ever talked to Aaron for more than 2 minutes? He says shit like that to everyone all the time.
If I took his sexual comments like that literally, I'd be convinced that he was gay for me. And he's not, believe me.
XOmniverse 2 years ago
No. I don't think it was a joke. I think he is genuinely attracted to girls that age. I myself like younger girls (just not THAT young). I too like to seduce (legal) girls online, so I can see what he's doing. I'm not out to judge him, I'm simply pointing out that it should be obvious why people aren't exactly cool with that and thus are reacting the way they are. It takes a perv to know a perv, and aaron is definitely a perv.
D4Shawn 2 years ago 4
To be perfectly frank, you and Aaron have very different views on sexuality, so I think it's a mistake to assess his actions from your context, if that makes sense. He doesn't even approach it from the same direction that you do.
XOmniverse 2 years ago
If there's a difference, it's that I don't bother to wear sheep's clothing. I don't hide what I am and what I like.
D4Shawn 2 years ago
Actually, all you are doing is engaging in classic projection, while having no real knowledge of the context of the conversation.
brainpolice2 2 years ago
I think you are mixing the desire to fuck with the actually will to act on it . Which I agree that male will fuck a 14 year old. There is a huge leap to have the desire to act on it and feel the urge. Or everytime I'm looking to an women's ass I would have to tell myself i'm a rapist.
NeutrinoideReturns 2 years ago 5
Those new wave of nihilists sure are working hard to show how stupid ethics is. How about they start explaining why they are doing those videos. The gymnastic they will have to do to avoid the use of ethics. It would be fun to watch.
NeutrinoideReturns 2 years ago
I know right? Suppose I said "Fine, Aaron wants to fuck 14 year olds. So?" What could they say if they reject ethics? It's just an arbitrary preference, right?
They are clearly relying on the fact that people DO have a sense of right and wrong.
XOmniverse 2 years ago
Not only that. If they used this shallow process they believe to be thinking. They are maybe trying to make a point by showing how ethic is destroying Aaron`s business. But they will have to explain why they try to show this by comparing Aaron having food on the table or with him been broke on the street. Since they will have to compare a positive with a negative state of the individual.
NeutrinoideReturns 2 years ago 2
Yup, they think what Aaron did was immoral.
ExistentialExistent 2 years ago
But morals don't exist! You can't use anything against them, even their own beliefs!
tiecuando 2 years ago 2
How can I take the people seriously and talk like adult with them when we see people like Machinelegion and Father0Blivion ? That is without counting the 9 thumbs up? really?
NeutrinoideReturns 2 years ago 2
I'd point out the obvious, but I'd rather not insult your intelligence and will instead post a quote of Swordsage that I agree with, "humans suck".
Shezmu 2 years ago
longtime Xomni subscriber. not sure what is going on, but if any of these quotes people are posting are real then Xomni is being incredibly naive.
ReceiveTheFlame 2 years ago
I'm not naive. Aaron is someone I talk to on a regular basis, so I have a solid grasp on his views on things, how he interacts with people, etc.
I know he was not hitting on her (in fact, he is so infatuated with his girlfriend that I couldn't imagine him hitting on anyone).
XOmniverse 2 years ago
This whole thing is starting to annoy me.
i2aymond 2 years ago 2
The vid was petty, but I'd also say it's fair game. I don't think this revealed anything about stodles to people who have watched any of his vids before. In the 2 years I've watched his yt vids he's been pretty consistent with the way he treats people.
Something tells me this vid would not have been made if Aaron hadn't made his. Let's try and stay consistent.
Also, legal implications!? Lol. You know an anarchist has a strong argument when he brings those up.
trumasamune 2 years ago
I was angry, and to a degree it was a serious question. The law exists, whether me or Stodles or anyone else likes the fact.
Someone theoretically could get in legal trouble for something like that.
XOmniverse 2 years ago
Its possible if Aaron decided to try and use State law.
Chrisnoscrub047 2 years ago
yeah, this is unheard of. what a disgusting little shit.
fede2 2 years ago 5
hm. Stodles posted the conversation and the "context" so if Aaron's self-esteem boost was reasonable why would this do any harm to his business?
lol, also, on the east coast its later, and its sunday, (a lot of people don't work on Sunday) and people set their fantasy football lineups before the 1 o clock games. =)
Chrisnoscrub047 2 years ago 3
The problem is that most people do interpret discussing sexuality frankly with anyone under 18 as a sign of pedophilia.
In other words, Stodles is playing on other people's irrational prejudices and views on sexuality in order to damage Aaron's reputation. Mentioning his business is an attempt to damage his livelihood, as well.
XOmniverse 2 years ago
Talking about sexuality is one thing, but the dude was hitting on a 15 year old. Dudes pedo brah.
MachineLegion 2 years ago 2
When exactly was he hitting on her?
XOmniverse 2 years ago
So saying "if you were older, me and my girlfriend would love to play with you" isn't hitting on the girl?
The guy's a serious creep, and the fact that you defend him so adamantly speaks volumes about your character.
I'd hate to pull this card, but where's your ethics now?
Father0Blivion 2 years ago 18
I'm pretty sure adding the "if you were older" kind of makes it NOT hitting on someone. Hitting on someone is a deliberate attempt to engage in sexual activity with someone, which is NOT what occurred.
If you read the conversation, the primary focus was on Kathy's low self esteem, especially regarding sexuality and her view that she was not sexually attractive.
My ethics remain in tact. If you don't like them, go away.
XOmniverse 2 years ago
"you are seriously a cute girl ... your expressions are adoreable" But wait, there's more "if I were a single boy and you were 18 ... i would be super willing to date you. I am more picky about philosiophy and stuff, but you have a huge advantage over most other girls. So I would give it a shot" "Rose and I would welcome you if you needed a place to stay .... but there is a topless policy at my house"
MachineLegion 2 years ago
I don't suppose the fact that the last part is a joke occurred to you, did it?
When Aaron talks about Stodles licking his butthole, is that serious too?
XOmniverse 2 years ago
No shit its a joke. But when you combine that with everything else the dude said its perfectly fucking obvious he was hitting on her.
MachineLegion 2 years ago 5
So what the hell is wrong with flirting? The girl could be married if she lived in Kansas, and is beyond any customary age of consent. (Usually between the age of 12 and 15.
WorBlux 2 years ago
When the hell did I say I thought it was wrong? I was just pointing out that the dude is a pedo for hitting on a 15 year old.
MachineLegion 2 years ago
Most cultures historically would consider a 15 year old to be an adult rather than a child.
We just have a weird culture where childhood is stretched out into this thing called adolescence.
WorBlux 2 years ago
Its subjective, whats your point?
MachineLegion 2 years ago
No it's and opinion based on facts of reality. The fact that it is so consistent would imply there underlying facts on which the opinions are based on. It is the age at which sexual maturity kicks in as well as the desire to interact with the world on your own terms.
We consider other species as juveniles or adults on the basis of sexual maturity as well.
WorBlux 2 years ago
"We consider other species as juveniles or adults on the basis of sexual maturity as well. "
Like with humans other species' developmental stages are ambiguous.
ExistentialExistent 2 years ago
We don't know exactly, exactly being key here, when to consider one an adult. There is ambiguity between the stages we create and project onto the species.
ExistentialExistent 2 years ago
For example, insects which go through 'incomplete metamorphosis' have obvious ambiguities between their three stages.
ExistentialExistent 2 years ago
to be fair historically bein 15 meant ud lived half ur life lol
CocoMac877 2 years ago 2
@ Mach,
In order to be considered a pedo, you must be attracted to pre-pubescent children. The term absolutely does not apply.
DeraJa 2 years ago
You're looking at it all wrong MachineLegion, she was 14 at the time, not 15.
abortabraham 2 years ago 5