Hunter Lovins - What We Can Do to Fix Global Warming

[Katers311]

just met her in tacoma washington!

[LECHEMOS]

your dumb 

[ilikeyouallot]

Look there is money spent in war,in brief, there is enough evidence that at least since the industrial revolution was made we got in to a dependency on the use of fuel for every thing,Of course if i heard that we have learned about the past,it should be like an EMERGENCY.But i see DOWN TOWN every day BUNCH OF DELUSiON.We are no educated,there is poverty and HUGHE PROFITS,HUGH POVERTY, Disparity,distorted,twisted human way,obstinated in oppress and to keep these billions under the ignorance.

[whodank]

What We Can Do to Fix Global Warming? We can wait a few hundred more years so we actually know if the world is in peril.

[TheWorldCrier]

Sorry...the new curly lightbulbs (CFLs) being touted to save electricity have mercury in them. The United States is banning the exportation of Mercury.

My friend's cat now has kidney failure because one of those CFL lightbulbs broke next to it's face and it breathed in the fumes.

The CFL lightbulb is a huge marketing ploy. Don't buy them.

Just use fewer lamps instead.

[ronpaul2020]

I absolutely hate environazis who have a shady agenda to promote. They all tend to be very anti-capitalist socialist liberals who want to force others into compliance with their own views and use the environment as a cover for appearing they are doing the "right thing".

There are HUGE dollars being passed around. If I ran a company that produced solar power panels, I'd donate the charitable portion of profits to a group that pimps alternative energies and demonizes my competitors dirty power.

[ltj999]

just to make a small point, if you think socialism is so bad, you don't have a clear understanding of what socialism is. New Deal, remember that think that brought us out of the great depression? Socialism. Norway, Finland, countries with the highest standard of living on the planet? Socialism. Do some research on Socialism. When socialism is bad is when moral and ethical control is involved, economic is appropriate.

[barbixy]

the point is, the natural systems of the earth are being consumed (and destroyed) by industry created by for-profit business. Prices in the US are artificially low, because the factories in China aren't being paid enough to employ non-polluting technologies. Don't criticise others' efforts unless YOU yourself are doing something to effect change.

[WaterpoloPower2]

at 2:41 she says "we're making it up as we go along" haha. yes. she definetly has that part right

[livinglikeaking]

Hello Patagonia, I just took all of your synthetic petroleum fabrics and burned them ( oops global warming ) because you promote this snake oil propaganda.

I will not buy anything you make and I hope the rest of the world will do the same.

Miss Lovins, I think we had an ICE AGE a few million years ago before man was here.

You are a FALSE profits

[SoaringEagle5344]

livinglikeaking: It is no surprise that your channel is full of videos with guns you ignorant hill billy. Keep clinging to your guns and religion you whacko, but stay in your cave, you just lost permission to roam outside of the dark.

[finisher77]

What a bunch of tripe. You poor shortsighted brainwashed buffoons who buy into this, you play right into the hands of power-mad, tax-happy control freaks who want to dominate every aspect of your lives and dip deeper into your wallets.

Mars and Jupiter are warming too, which points to solar fluctuations. Meanwhile, even the 'global warming' salesmen are admitting a decade of cooling on the horizon -- mother nature isn't cooperating with their garbage science.

Can you say 'bill of goods'?

[THATSNOTAMYTUBE]

pathetic! there is nothing we can do about global warming. your making it up as you go along.

what gives you the right to determine what the perfect tempeture should be. I like it warm ,plus we would have a longer growing season for crops , and just think how much we will save not having to heat our homes as much , I love global warming

[GTichris70]

in the seventies we were supposedly going into an ice age,the usa was switching to the metric system and fossil fuels were going to run out sooner than later. the pollution man creates is harming this planet,but this is nothing compared to one volcanic eruption. it cant hurt to limit our impact,but the changes we see in climate are part of the natural cycle that has been constantly changing since long before man existed. besides,unless china gets on board,there is little we can do as americans.

[kentuckyann]

To the people who refuse to believe that human behavior does affect this globe we live on: Do you really not care about anyone who comes after you? I have been trekking around this country for the last 8 months talking to everyday people, people in government, fishermen, hunters, biologists who study reproduction of animals and people - all of whom notice rapid changes in our water systems ad our air quality due to widespread pollution - human-caused pollution. We can and do make a difference.

[rsun1900]

Funny, lot's of folks that live in the Rockies dress in Western wear. Go figure.

[200whiskey]

Dear Hunter Lovins, what my wife and I do is all we can. We operate a small scale sustainable organic farm fed by oak leaves and meadow grass compost and water runoff from the meadow. we reseed with last years seed collected from plants we've allowed to go to seed. We grow enough food to feed myself ourself and many others. It is easy to grow our own food. I produce many tons annually using only hand tools, no fuels.

[SolaRichard]

Stop globe trotting and pushing mercury lights. It's hard on your body. Let them come to you....sr

[SolaRichard]

Passive solar buildings that heat and cool for both home and work.Hi! Harold Hay! Tracking photovoltaics for your power needs.Hi! SolaRichard LED lighting to see the local food in the fridge? I've got 'em! I use ~2KW per day and I think I can do better. How many carbons is that? Stink'n Tacoma sucks

[245tobase]

How about relinquishing the privilege/right of

procreating biologically - however the partnership

is structured - and adopt a child.

[noseMF]

natural capitalism??? shit u bet carl max now LOL

[ufourya]

This means that third world populations are the ones that are growing beyond their capacities to take care of themselves. It is vital that they learn that capitalism and free markets are the way to go. As they grow more sophisticated, they will become self-limiting as well.

[ufourya]

Acavideo, certain populations are limiting themselves as we spesk. Population sustains itself through generating 2.1 births/woman. All Western nations save the United States Ireland are in demographic decline. Many rely on immigration to sustain their socialist nanny governments and this results in further problems - need I point them out?.

[ufourya]

You can tell people any number of things. In China they were draconian in enforcing a one child per couple limit. Enforcing unnatural limitations upon people can only be done through government force. Comply or we'll kill you. Wonderful leftist ideology.

[ufourya]

Some resources are indeed finite and man keeps finding new ways to deal with the problems he encounters. Oil resources, for example are projected to last 50 years. (Let's assume that, even though we were supposed to run out long ago.) By then we will have new fuels and systems. Fear-mongers have kept us from developing nuclear power further in this country.

[ufourya]

Acavideo, my example is only designed to show that all the world's PEOPLE will now comfortably fit inside Texas, not that it could sustain them (I mention specifically that infrastructure is left out.) It is simply something to wrap one's mind around. Man keeps coming up with ways to sustain himself.

[rsun1900]

Hunter, any relation to economist Avery? The carbon trading concept sounds like the points trading plan worked out for the Kyoto Protocol but, as a investment prospect. But, who is hfl2005? Why is he on about a paper written by a Canadian glaciologist about a 2km long Greenland glacier core, reported in the UK press, then badly hacked up by the Heartland Institute, which sounds way too much like Heritage Foundation propaganda for me.

[Permanoid]

QUOTE: "Hunter, any relation to economist Avery?"

I hope not, he's her husband!

[rsun1900]

Very cute, ha, ha! When, I lie dying and they say, "relatives only in the room," they let my wife in!

[hfl2005]

Sorry to blow up your spot Al but... Scientists who probed two kilometers (1.2 miles) through a Greenland glacier to recover the oldest plant DNA on record said Thursday the planet was far warmer hundreds of thousands of years ago than is generally believed.

DNA of trees, plants and insects including butterflies and spiders from beneath the southern Greenland glacier was estimated to date to 450,000 to 900,000 years ago, according to the remnants retrieved from this long-vanished boreal forest.

[hfl2005]

I have a great idea how about we just live like cavemen. These people know SOOOOOO much about global warming. I dare them to give us a date that will be the absolute end. Not and exact date but something like 10 or 20 years. Go on record so you can look like an ass after NOTHING HAPPENS

[Permanoid]

Everyone does seem to agree that things change, we just can't agree on why. No matter. New Orleans learned the very hard way about the problems with heavy, rigid, immobile infrastructure. We need lighter, more flexible and mobile infrastructure, since disasters will keep forcing increasing numbers of people to relocate (connected w/ overpopulation). "Lightening up" would also mitigate against climate change, no matter its causality.

[Permanoid]

Pollution may be part of climate change, but is a huge problem unto itself (seen cancer rates lately?). The Sun might cause warming, but we ARE certainly to blame for dirty water and toxic pollution. so, no matter your views on climate change, please don't throw out the environmentalism with the carbon credits! Ultimately, the problem is OVERPOPULATION. And that one is easy... Ebola or H5N1 avian influenza or etc. will likely take care of everything soon enough. Yikes.

[ufourya]

Many think OVERPOPULATION is a problem. You can take the earth's total population and, put them four to a 2000 sq ft house on a 5000 sq ft lot and fit them ALL into Texas. That's the dry part - land. Now, granted that leaves out infrastructure - roads and the like, but is illustrative of how little of the earth is populated. Overpopulation is a myth.

Worried about trees and water? Trees grow when planted and water falls out of the sky. Worry about some real threats - how about global jihad?

[Permanoid]

You need to get out more.

And you sort of contradict your own position by whipping out the "global jihad" BS.

Where's the swarm of boogeymen unleashing this jihad going to come from if the population were drastically reduced? See? Behind your fear of the Other is just... lots of people. And they are getting thirstier. Go back to watching TV.

[ufourya]

Learn how to read. I said nothing about reducing population. I said all the earth's folks will fit in TX - all 6 billion plus. Do the math if you can. People who are afraid to recognize real threats rather than imagined ones are the problem. If you cannot see that the overwhelming majority of earth's conflicts are Islamist related, you are blind.

[Permanoid]

You should check the convoluted math you parrot before passing it along. You assign 7000 sq ft for every 4 people, or 1750 sq ft per person (why not just say that?). Texas is 261,797 sq miles, or 7.3X10^12 sq ft. That means Texas has room for 4.2X10^9 people if each gets 1750 sq ft. So, you're off by about 2.5 billion based on a current pop. of 6.7 billion people. Nice attempt at irrelevant diversion though.

[ufourya]

Permanoid, we both committed errors. I meant to put 5 people in the house (400 sq ft covered living area per person, 1000 overall) and you failed to notice that the house is ON the lot, not added to it. In any case, the example shows that Texas would hold everyone alive without being stacked like sardines in a can.

Nothing irrelevant about showing the earth is not overpopulated.

[Permanoid]

I didn't fail to notice anything; the example was ambiguous and convoluted, which is always suspicious. Figures don't lie, but liars figure, and the idea that everyone might fit in Texas is completely irrelevant. Again, it's the ratio of people to available resources that determine overpopulation, not the actual number of people.

[ufourya]

The example is clear and definitive. You wish to characterize it differently. Where is the lie? We've heard for decades that we will soon run out of resources, yet we never do. This is fear-mongering for nefarious political gain. We are in balnce with our environment and will continue to be regardless of your hysteria.

[Permanoid]

Besides, overpop. isn't about density. It's about the ratio of people to available resources. Southern Calilfornia's natural water resources can support 3 million people, for example. A water shortage seems like a real threat to me, as does heart disease, cancer, and a car wreck. As for the boogeyman du jour BS, remember that Oceania is at war with Eastasia.

[sherpadoody]

The issue with overpopulation is not overcrowding, but the natural carrying capacity of the Earth and it's resources. Can the Earth provide enough food and clean water for everyone without having the environment (and hence the food and water) destroyed in the process.

[xxyox]

what?

[Permanoid]

I think primalsource made a good point about water. Clean water issues will wreck civilization much sooner than the oil is going to run out, but they won't make humans extinct. We have a lot of work to do to save civilization at this point (for many reasons) but we won't become extinct from climate change, since the survivors will walk somewhere it's changed for the better. So, are we talking about survival as a species or as a civilization?

[TheStentorian]

Wytrkracka wrote, "we've filled the landfills with mercury from her flourescent bulbs?" This is NOT a problem--I wanted to try these bulbs to cut my electric bill, but I was worried about the mercury in case I broke one by accident. It turns out that there is not enough mercury in them to be a serious problem. However, the "full spectrum" ones I tried are not as eye-friendly as incandescent ones. I can use them for incidental lighting, but not reading.

[TheStentorian]

Why should I pay for carbon credits (no benefit to me) to add to the profits of a company that is reducing its emissions by, for example, increasing efficiencies (==> profit to its bottom line) or maybe just moving energy-intensive jobs (as in real working people's jobs) and ALL their carbon dioxide emissions to China? I think I'll fix my home insulation instead, because that will put money in MY pocket and not someone else's.

[TheStentorian]

Al Gore is like a medieval indulgence peddler, except he sells you carbon credits instead of forgiveness for your sins. This is not to say that increased solar radiation is not making the world warmer, but you have to watch out for the scams, frauds, and self-serving legislation (Climate Action Partnership = Climate Action Profiteers)

[abitar1]

Global Warming is ridiculous - do people really believe that humans are causing the earth to warm up.

GE and others are wanting money from consumers and gov.

hippies shaking the money tree for funding

[TheStentorian]

Philips was pushing for a ban on incandescent light bulbs. No surprise, because Philips makes fluorescent ones. Too bad that the "full-spectrum" fluorescents I tried (to save energy) are very harsh in comparison to the full-spectrum Lumiram bulbs I normally use. This is why the Climate Action Partnership has to force people to buy its "green" products; they wouldn't sell on their own.

[primalsource]

The more I hear about 'climate change' the more I wanna' puke...I'm so sick of it...'Cause here about water conservation for yrs., but the cities and county keep buildin' thousands of more apts., housing units every yr...

It's about the WATER!...Not the climate change...But what does the paper put on the front page?...A whole article on 'Climate Change'...Nothin' of course about the backroom deals already made despite the ongoing water issues...Typical BS. politics!!!...

[theofrastvs]

Not bad. I downloaded the Climate Protection for Cities book and will send it to my mayor and city council, who are at least nominally interested in such things. It is, in the final analysis, a matter of each person doing what we can, in our own sphere of influence, rather than petitioning and waiting for someone else to do it for us, whether government or business. Government is incompetent, and business uncaring. It's up to us.

[kewpiesbadhairday]

wise woman..............

[RabidNinjaPenguins]

Well, agree or not, at least she is actively trying to help with pollution- she is a pretty level-headed environmentalist with some practical opinions, and actually practices what she preaches instead of being an alarmist. It's easy to talk and raise drama about how bad some situation is, so kudos to the people who actually do something about it.

[ScottieDM]

I went to that carbonneutral . com website she suggested. The concept that you can erase your carbon contribution by giving money to someone is bunk. Al Gore justifies his massive carbon "footprint" this way. He ought to put his money where his mouth is and build a direct-tied photovoltaic power plant in his back yard. By my calculations about 30KW peak ought to offset his home electricity use.

If he did that it would be a heck of a statement that he's serious and he believes what he says.

[ScottieDM]

Interesting to see what Hunter is up to after reading about her and Amory in Mother Earth News years ago. The article was about this big house they built in the Colorado Rockies. It had a near-zero energy, walk-in refrigerator, among other things.

Kinda unfortunate about the clothing... but this was shot at Patagonia, who make casual wear for outdoorsy types. So she's dressed appropriately for the audience.

[ScottieDM]

Oh please! Global warming is very real, it's been going on for the past few centuries. It's also accelerated quite a bit in the last few decades.

BUT... and this is the possible bullshit business... is humanity responsible for global warming? How much of it? Are we responsible for the speedup of global warming?

That's the debatable point.

[redeyesthe20th]

let me ask! are neon light buldbs which yes use 75% less electricity, but do they cause more damage to the ecosystim? they are quite toxic really! you people need more views on one thing

[redeyesthe20th]

let me ask, WHAT GLOBAL WARMING?

[gboy54]

"The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it." "Last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half a billion dollars' worth of damage...these disparate incidents represent the advanced signs of fundamental changes in the world's weather." From Newsweek 4/28/75 article on Global Cooling. The debate hasn't even started!

[osamadid911]

You Lemmings just spew what Gore tells you.

[blackblog]

Here is a non reply comment for all to see. I don't want to paint all GW alarmists with the same brush, but it seems a lot of you are as alarmed about the new emerging debate as you are about Gwming itself. HMMm. In my opinion, the person most affraid of a fight is the one about to get an ass-kicking. Open your minds, you have been spoon fed this alarmism since grade school, when you could not comprehend scientific evidednce. Why would anyone try to close the minds of folks who can't understand.

[jam108]

We've all been spoon fed the opinions of others our whole lives. The real question is this: How do we determine what is true and what is not. I believe the only way for us to this resolve this dispute is through open, honest, and dispassionate inquire. Only by setting aside political hostilities and working together to discover what is really true, can we serve our families, country, and planet. Unfortunately, some folks are more committed to conflict than they are to the truth. How about you?

[jam108]

How much and what kind of scientific research would it take for you to change your mind? Nearly all the world's scientists agree that global warming is real and that human production of greenhouse gases is a major cause. Are you open to understanding why there is such unanimous opinion?

[higgyhoo]

Are you sure about that? Many scientists have said they dont believe it yet the IPCC has put their name down anyway. In the IPCC's own report it said they do not believe humans are a major contributer to climate change (Which they edited out by the way)

[blackblog]

yeah, how many of those scientist are getting some of the billions of dollars in research money. All Gore's own movie proves the only connection between CO2 and warming is that after the global temp goes up several years later the CO2 level goes up. His giving the data backwards in the movie shows that he is a Liar and he knows it. People like you are getting the rest of us fleeced for billions. Open your mind and look at the facts.

[ReliableInsider]

Unsustainable growth is like driving toward a cliff. You don't have a big debate about WHETHER to change course. Our two options are to change course or to stop altogether. I favor the former. Seventy-year-old oil company executives say full speed ahead.

So do the talking heads from The Heritage Foundation, financed by oil companies, who populate every television debate show AND WHO HAVE EVEN BEGUN TO INVADE YOUTUBE ITSELF!!!

[blackblog]

Any money that the Heritage Foundation has is dwarfted by the billions of tax dollars and private foundation dollars funneled to anyone who says CO2 is going to destroy the planet. Hog wash. If you want to get both sets of numbers and compare them, then I'll listen to you. And it is kinda funny how you are lamenting the fact that there is a debate. Debates, in my experience, is where the truth comes out and decisions are made. You want the truth, right?

[ReliableInsider]

Scientists have HAD the debate. The debate never ends. That's what science does. New studies all the time. They ALL indicate that we better get crackin'.  The weather patterns are being disrupted. Hotter over here, colder over there. You must be Cleopatra 'cause you da QUEEN o' DENIAL.

[ReliableInsider]

<sarcasm>Screw the planet.  We can always move the entire world's population to some distant planet where it's 500 degrees in the shade.</sarcasm>

[CreativeFlux]

Oh, so if I don't buy from your company and support the liberals with my money I'm "part of the problem." Yeah, how can we make the world a better place? By refusing to let people like you continue to whine and shout about your crazy ideas like global warming.

[dwest1000]

Yeah, like we have ANY control over this planet and what it does temperature wise, or disease wise. We aren't making anything up. We just live here. We'll expire sooner or later just as many, many species have in the past. This woman, as do all companies and politicians want but one thing: YOUR MONEY. They will say anything and scare the hell out of as many people who will fall for it to get YOUR MONEY. Wake up people.

[dwest1000]

If we each do absolutely nothing different...this world will be just fine. Always has been. Always will be. Life goes on. The sun gets hotter. The globe gets hotter. The sun gets colder the globe gets colder. Always has. Always will. It did that long before we arrived. It'll do that long after we're gone. Be good to your fellow man if you want to make the world a better place. It rubs off really fast.

[ggute]

The answer to sustainability is clear. We must all engage in gladitorial combat until the weak are no longer with us and the planet can sustain those that are left. Simple.

[D34th66]

We are slowly killing humanity off. It is sad, but there is no solution, only a way to delay it from happening. Even then if every person did everything they possibly could, every building would just make up for it.

[hfl2005]

How arrogant do you have to be to think that, other than detonating every nuke in the world, humans can affect the climate.

[alexanderoman]

Uarehere,power plants dont contribute to global warming? It causes a nuclear reaction to produce heat that then in turn is used to create energy. So yes the main difficulty with nuclear energy is the waste issue but the heat that we create has to go somewhere. mostly it ends up in our lakes and rivers increasing the temperature of entire waterways by measurable amounts, nuclear power doesnt seem the way to go by any means

[nonamesleft53]

ummm, don't plants need co2 for photosynthesis? All you environmentalists are like watermelons, green on the out side red on the inside. Don't the florescent light use mercury?

[patagoniavideo]

Nice to see a lively conversation happening here -- lots of passionate skeptics in the house so far -- but it's time to make something clear:

Patagoniavideo welcomes your opinions. However, excessively hateful or obscene comments will not be tolerated. We have deleted a few comments like this already and will continue to monitor this thread for inappropriate content. Thanks for your cooperation.

[erod1944]

Gee, Once again it's all about "GIMME DA MONEY!!!". Perhaps if the Sierra Club would quit stonewalling the construction of Nuclear Electric Plants we would quit building/using COAL-FIRED electric plants which would stop the spewing of tons of thorium & Uranium into the environment from the ignition of coal. These guys are always ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.  Well, she DID say she's a capitalist.

[Uarehere]

Nuclear power is no better than coal. Right, it doesn't emit carbon into the atmosphere and contribute to global warming--it just produces radioactive waste that will pose a danger for hundreds of thousands of years! It shocks me when people think nuclear energy is "clean". It is not--it simply replaces one catyclysmic problem with another. Nuclear waste is toxic and we have no room for error when transporting or storing it. It's bad technology.

[D2DRacing]

sorry to say.. but Global Warming inst caused by Humans, earth has its cicle were along for the ride, Al Gore started this hole shabang for money

[Uarehere]

You are ridiculous, D2DRacing. Al Gore doesn't make money from his movie or book--all proceeds go to a nonprofit climate change education org, FYI. Over the past 50 years, scientists have been studying and warning us of thisi crisis. Al Gore simply brought more attention to the matter, thankfully. And unless you want you or your children to die, you might starting caring abou this issues yourself.

[D2DRacing]

listen bud.. i did my research, THIS ALONE... says it , 1 volcanic eruption causes more CO2 then all of man kind has ever created..

[Uarehere]

That doesn't explain why the atmosphere's temperature has been steadily increasing over the past century, why it is currently at the highest it has ever been based on examination of Antarctice ice samples that are as old as 100,000 years. Explain that. Have there been significantly more volcanic eruptions this past century? Or could it be the gas-combustible engine and burning of coal on massive scales--unprecedented events in the earth's history?

[erod1944]

You're in Big Trouble Uarehere. We're going to be out of cheap oil in about 40 years. If global warming destroys the planet by then, you won't be able to dash around madly on your moped championing the Global Warming movement. You'll be living it with your rear end frozen to your immobile Vespa seat. Rev er' UP!

[Uarehere]

umm...I don't ride a moped--I take public transportation, and when I'm not doing that, I'm walking on my own two feet. Now, do you think it's wise and admirable for the United States to pursue war after war in an effort to control oil--killing thousands of American troops--so that we can live it up for a few more decades before lots of us die from a cataclysm?

[erod1944]

ummm.... If I rode public transportation, I'd still be sitting at the bus stop cause there ain't no buses here. I'd be like a guy stuck to a frozen Vespa seat. I guess I'll just have to keep driving my "somewhat ecologically green" Honda Civic where I spend my time searching endlessly for new Nuclear Power Plants. No comment on your Anti-U.S. baiting. Sorry.

[Uarehere]

ahh...so you don't live in a city. It must be nice to isolate yourself from the rest of the world...most likely out in bid "red" territory where all the world seems perfect and the glow of a nuclear holocaust is nothing but a little extra brightness in your day because terrorists to target small towns and countryside. Yes, things are just spiffy in America, ain't they?

[dwest1000]

Ahem. The sun is hotter. The globe is thus hotter. The sun cools and heats up in cycles. Because the distance between Earth and Sun varies very little from year to year, the Earth thus heats and cools accordingly. You have been educated by government schools and are thus not entirely aware of truth.

[Uarehere]

Yes, I went to a public shool where they teach this thing called science. You may have heard of it, but then, I don't know where you went to school. At any rate, stars generally become warmer until they burn up all their hydrogen as red giants and eventually collapse unto themselves as nebulae. If you have actual scientific evidence to prove that stars get warmer and cooler, warmer and cooler--well that would be interesting to see.

[wytkracka]

It's this group called "NASA", they do stuff like studying the sun's hot and cool cycles. look it up, it is rather interesting to see.

[golfmaniac72par]

If people would take the time to look at the real science behind the theory that humans are making the climate warmer, crackpots like this one wouldn't have a leg to stand on. It's insane that the leaders of the world are buying into this crap. If she's speaking at the UN, there's no hope for them!

[t3h1337pwnz]

bubber25 : ice caps on saturn and mars are now starting to melt.

lol? mars doesnt have ice and its further away then earth same for saturn but like nice try tho

[wytkracka]

I'm sorry, but NASA agrees with bubber, or do you have a couple thousand of the world's best rocket scientists on your staff? nice try thoUGH.

[rsun1900]

Oh yea.. rocket scientists, why didn't I think of that? They'd know all about global warming, designing rockets all the time and stuff. Would a car mechanic make a good weather man ya think?

[wytkracka]

I guess he would if he did things like study the entire planet's climate at once, weather systems on other planets,

[sveltesavante]

Sure global warming is happening, who can deny that globally speaking, the nations of this world and the ppl that live in them understand that something big is about to take place on the historical time line of man. I submit that atmospheric warming is at best a run on hysteria by socialists who think that they have found the answer to localize and centralize power. But sure, the earth is warming... cuz something big, very big.. is coming!

[bubber25]

Its not just global warming. The sun is the cause of the weather patterns. ice caps on saturn and mars are now starting to melt. The sun is going thru a an explosive hot stage. has nothing to do with man. Stop believing in this lie of global warming by man. they are pushing it to bring on a global tax....on us...just for living.

[rsun1900]

"The sun is going thru a an explosive hot stage. has nothing to do with man." Yup, them damn explosive hot stages really get bad sometimes, burnt all the hair off the dog the other day... Melted my TV antenna, too. Are you an astrophysicist or just a guy who needs a "physic"? (Look it up for crissakes).

[finisher77]

You ignorant moron, did the "global warming" caused by the "carbon footprint" melt your antenna? Your "circular logic" is so flawed and sophomoric that you should be embarrassed. Meanwhile, the warming trend has reached Jupiter, so I heard. But the idiots pushing this crapola will not factor sun-related empirical data that can be drawn from the warming trend on Mars and Jupiter; if they did, their "science" would implode.

[SoaringEagle5344]

finisher77: I don't need to listen to your junk science when I can just walk outside of my door and see an enormous thick haze of smog blanketing my entire city. What do you think causes that smog/pollution? Asthma rates have been inreasing at a steady pace over the past decade in my city, as well as lung cancer in non-smoking patients. "Mars and Jupiter"?! You are nothing more than a filthy propagandist.

[srpositivo]

It's a fascinating documentary (which I've seen before), but I'm not personally quite ready to write off emissions controls, etc. Pollution is a very real problem (just visit L.A. sometime), even if climate change isn't, so Ms. Lovins still has a point. (And besides that, saving money is never a bad thing!)

[Person012345]

global warming is not happening. look at the facts.

[srpositivo]

You might want to cite those facts, just to support your claim more strongly. ;)

[jolow999]

Practical, thoughtful and realistic. Acknowledging responsibility and moving forward is exciting and empowering. This is the sweetest planet around, lets care for it. It'll be here after we are gone, but will it be a Sahara desert?

[Whatever143341]

Global Warming is fake!! I tell you, fake!!

[claudiaforcutie]

fantastic video!!!

[firstfloorpower]

yes, live what you preach!