Damn, I've seen, and debated, some dumb ass Apologists before but this...Watchman, gets the gold ring! What makes this whole thing sad is that this guy doesn't hesitate to lie, that's all he's been doing. All of these apologists try to use that Jubilee year thing to give the impression that all slaves are released on the 7th year. That only applies to Jewish slaves, and this guy knows it. They make me fuckin sick cuz..these so-called Xians have no honor and no integrity. Probably never did.
@r29 yeah, in that Bruce lee didn't believe in any gods. although i think it had more to do with a rejection of all organized dogma's or doctrines much as he rejected similar dogma's in the martial arts world
Hi Brett, just wanted to point out, George Orwell wasn't really an avowed atheist. He was more weak Anglican... and he died pretty young, unfortunately.
brett, @4:23 you show what looks like a time lapse evolving of something and I saw something like this in another of your videos. what is that and where could i find it? is it something on youtube? i'm really trying to better grasp evolution and i would love to see this if i could. i'm still trying to get past all the blocks and confusion due to years of indoctrination in creationism. thanks!
@withfootnotes At 4:23 that's just a timelapse of a gecko being "eaten" by ants. Not evolution. Best thing I would suggest is reading some basic books. Three off the top of my head that would recommend are: "The Greatest Show on Earth" by Richard Dawkins; "Why Evolution Works (and Creationism Fails)" by Matt Young and Paul K. Strode; "Evolution: What the Fossils Say and Why It Matters" by Donald R. Prothero. Good luck!!
@brettppalmer oops! o.o i saw that and something on another vid and thought it was something else. anyway, thanks for the recommendations. i love to read but i find with evolution i find some of it so hard to grasp. i'm not very scientific minded and i also have trouble with comprehension but i will try to read it slowly.
@brettppalmer brett, i appreciate that but what you couldn't (and how could you as you don't know me) understand is that i'm not "like us" and i never was, even at seventeen years old when i was "born again". the problem is that all my disabilities became suspended for 28 years because god would work a miracle(and i was promised this). now here i am all these years later, without any answers to prayer and basically the same only worse because of god and his wonderful promises.
@withfootnotes also, please don't feel a need to respond, just explaining. i will still def get my hands on those books. hopefully they will help me understand and bring some sort of peace. this is, in the words of the great Chicago tune, only the beginning.......
seldom have I read a more feeble critique as the one presented here. I was hoping for something of real substance, but instead got a list of books and a 'who's who' of famous atheist. Yes, I agree, it would take books to explain something which probably has no validity, re: the comment made regarding the authorship of the Bible, to the end that one simple example isn't produced here. The rest of the critisisms are just petty. You'll need to do better next time. Better still, dont bother!
@lyricmaster007 Seldom have I read a more hyperbolic, kneejerk reaction. So, it took me four videos to do nothing more than present books and list a who's who of atheists? You don't like it that I didn't spend more time trying to school the Watchman in current biblical scholarship regarding authorship? And you think I'M being petty? I think a trip to mirror is in order for you, sir. If you think The Watchman made a point I missed, perhaps you can present it.
Ayn Rand? Really? I guess personality cults don't count as religion if you're the cult's focus, but if you're the god of the cult and an atheist, do you just disbelieve yourself or do you violate a logical absolute?
Cose2cose does a call in show imitating a thumper with a show to take Bible questions. The Watchman shows how difficult it is to parody a thumper.
After both RHYMEMAIDEN1 and KingHeathen recommended your channel, I came over to check it out. I have just watched 17 videos in one sitting. Tomorrow is my day off, so I should be able to watch the rest and maybe start over.
@mydogbanjo try to convince brett to put some famous athiest that I know on the video pol pot cambodian leader murderer of what 15000000. joey stalin 16000000 or more and the one that gave hitler the gas chambers. guys to be proud of for sure.
@joywonder (I know this is futile but...) Joy? Why don't you try linking atheism to these deaths you're tallying. In other words, were the deaths done in the name of atheism or for some politically motivated reason? Answer the question WHY were those people killed? Then look down and see if your own religion's hands of history are clean.
@brettppalmer I am saying this about stalin so that you look at your hands and tell me if athiests hands are clean. I have to tell you if a little god in the life of a nut would have stopped him from killing 16000000 jews don t know. But he did outlaw religion and killed another 14000000 yes that was because he wanted a completely atheist country "Religion is the opium of the people" ment death for many. typical boring dawkins thoughts are well typical and boring
@joywonder Not sure why that's relevant to the JWs Watchman thing, however the people you mentioned are most certainly among the worst that the human species has ever produced. There is no understateing the atrocities commited by these monsters. I don't happen to believe it was atheism that inspired them. These men were sociopaths and sadists. They used socialism as a tool to rise into power and "the cause" to excuse their actions. Atheism seems to have had little to do with it.
@mydogbanjo you are hitting the guy in a 5 part show for a year that isn t so bad but your errors and stupidies are laughable. maybe you don t have a future as a jw
@joywonder I have no idea what you're saying other than I have no future as a JW, which I agree with because I'm agnostic. You may be referencing comments from other posts or from other people. Not sure what "stupidies" is, or what's so goddamn "laughable"? If you could be more specific, I'd appreciate it. It's hard to know how to reply to what appears to me to be gibberish.
I happen to agree with a lot of Brett's views. He makes some great points.
@clearlyblurry Wise idea to remove your comment. But, to answer it, I put a large number of entertainers as "successful" atheists at the end of the video because I was going for recognition. Most of the other atheists I could have placed there wouldn't be recognized by their face alone. Hope that clears it up for you...
That guy has a beard and doesn't know the most basic of the Witness creed.
He is not a JW, or if he is, he is a ridiculous one.
For example : The author of each books of the bible (including the "anonymous" one) is written on the last pages of the JW's bible. That he screws this is weird.
Ramon Sanchez was arrested after the 12-year-old girl reported the incident.The alleged incident occurred on Jan. 10 at the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses at 319 Price Ave., which both individuals attend. Sanchez offered the girl money and told her to meet him inside the bathrooms, an arrest affidavit states. The unidentified girl then met him inside the restroom area, where Sanchez kissed her, fondled her, gave her $20 and returned to the church, according to the affidavit.
@archeng123 I am willing to agree that through evolution humans gained a capacity to utilize their brains in such a way that we are able to reason, predict and extrapolate. As to "everything that exists" ...I don't see how evolution has anything to do with say cosmology or the standard model since evolution speaks only to variation of species. This is a common fallacy found amoungst fundamentalists who haven't really studied science. I think you're out of your depth here...no offense intended.
Evolution created long, tusk-like canines in the sabre-tooth cats, which were good for hunting LARGE game, but they became a hindrance when the environment changed and large game disappeared. Thus, sabre-tooths are now extinct.
Likewise, evolution created the mental faculty in humans to seek "explanations" for things. This is useful for practical purposes of survival, but it becomes a hindrance when one uses it to "fill in the blanks" of what one does not know, to answer the "BIG" questions.
Of course, I don't mean to say that we should not SEEK explanations and answers to the "BIG" questions, but we should not pretend to know something that we simply do not.
As said in this video series, "God" has no explanatory power. It is an intellectual cop-out to just say "God did it".
So to proclaim "God did it" as a legitimate answer is intellectually dishonest. Just admit you DON'T KNOW what created the universe, like any self-respecting scientist.
@archeng123 I agree that I am a product of the natural process of evolution. Evolution however does not explain "everything that exists." It only pertains only to the diversity of life on the planet. Other naturalistic processes and forces explain other things like gravity, nuclear fusion within stars, etc.
Please don't mix evolution with other naturalistic theories.
You swing, you miss: God/religion is a Meme, not a gene.
Next to that: trying to give evolution cognitive abilities and talk about it as if it where a person with plans wishes and credit it with a level of intelligence is just plain silly.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about: get educated first!
@archeng123 I'm not coming from any perspective. Evolution does not need "god" to happen. It is a natural process. If you want to say that "god" is responsible for it, then you must 1) define what "god" is, 2) provide proof that god exists, and demonstrate 3) HOW god is directing evolution with testable, verifiable evidence.
@archeng123 Evolution doesn't require anyone to "think about it", it is a biological process that is independent of what we think. Humans may have attached word sounds to "things" in order to share our thoughts or to describe them, but there are many languages and they all use different words to describe the same subject so the wordplay you employ is basically meaningless. I see you confusing words and definitions for physical reality. It reminds me of "if a tree falls and no one hears it..." :)
@archeng123 again, evolution does not "need" a god to happen. It does not speak to if there is a god or not. It is a natural process.
Humans are the ones who thought up "god" most likely as a way to explain the natural world. As humans learned more about their world, supernatural explanations were abandoned for naturalistic ones. For instance thunder. At one time humans thought thunder was from the gods activities. Epilepsy was assumed to be because of spirits or curses.
The first book you listed was the one I read in college. That was one of the books I mentioned in my e-mail to him. I don't understand where the whole conspiracy idea comes from, that there's all these professors, scientists, and scholars that have all secretly agreed to oppose the Bible through deception
@anzwertree Are you kidding? So he sees Richard Elliott Friedman, professor of Hebrew and Comparative Literature at UCSD and STILL has the gall to say "anyone can write a book"?? Wow...I thought only ex-librarian dorks like JPH said crap like that.
@StubbornProgrammer I just pointed Brett in the right direction. He went far and beyond anything I expected. If anybody should be thanked for inspiration, it should be eWatchman. As part of the exJW community, Robert King is well known on our side. But rational skeptics rarely come out our way. And while there is no shortage of fundamentalist on Youtube, there is a shortage of critically thinking individuals. This is an excellent series because it exposes an otherwise unnoticed side of Youtube
I'm not sure this guy is still an "approved" member of the JWs. For one thing, active JWs are not permitted to preach on their own through Youtube videos, websites, blogs, podcasts, etc. They're only allowed to preach according to Watchtower guidelines and in conjunction with a JW congregation.
Second, you notice his beard. JW men, especially if baptised, are strongly discouraged from growing a beard. If they do, they aren't permitted to preach or hold positions of authority.
@MasterOhSo I'm not 100% for sure but I doubt he's still a Jehovah's Witness. I was born and raised in that horrid cult and I know how the Watchtower does its business and this guy isn't following their guidelines.
@archeng123 you had asked this on one of your videos and I said the same thing that the rest of these folks are saying. Evolution and a belief in god are not necessarily incompatible. It is however incompatible with the creation account in Genesis. So what? There is a perfectly plausible explanation why a belief in god developed in humans. Early humans needed a way to explain the world around them and since they didn't have a lot of naturalistic knowledge, they used a supernatural one.
3:00, "Don't read this nonsense..." Of course he doesn't want his listeners to read other books, any other books... Because then people will see what he says for what it really is - drivel!
Great finish to your video! :) It was needed after listening to the 'watchman'.
Take some books (Math, Chemistry, Physics & Biology and psychology) and get f*ing educated!
You are presenting yourself like a fool!
& google following: "argument from ignorance", "god of the gaps" & "burden of proof"
The burden of proof lies upon YOU: you claim a magical zombie god exist who is his own father who created the whole universe just to mess with genitals: prove it.
@archeng123 "why would evolution need to create an idea to oppose itself"
Evolution does NOT "oppose" a belief in God. It only opposes the Bible. And evolution had nothing to do with the writing of the Bible. It had more to do with a bunch of pretentious Bronze Age patriarchs.
@archeng123 Are you being serious? If you are, the "comments" section here on YouTube really isn't the place to have this exchange. If you're directing your question(s) to me, please submit them to my email (brettppalmer @ gmail . com --remove the spaces) and I'd be happy to engage you that way. I don't work well with character limitations! (And, who knows, maybe I can make a video from our discussion!)
@archeng123 god and evolution do not necessarily oppose one another...they are not mutually exclusive. Evolution does not create...it is a process by which complex organisims emerge by selection be it natural or otherwise. Why would a belief in a god or gods come about? Being that polytheism predates monotheism I'll begin with "gods". The gods were a mechanism to explain the unexplainable..like weather or sickness. God was created by man as a tool of social control. In a nutshell, that's it :)
Damn, I've seen, and debated, some dumb ass Apologists before but this...Watchman, gets the gold ring! What makes this whole thing sad is that this guy doesn't hesitate to lie, that's all he's been doing. All of these apologists try to use that Jubilee year thing to give the impression that all slaves are released on the 7th year. That only applies to Jewish slaves, and this guy knows it. They make me fuckin sick cuz..these so-called Xians have no honor and no integrity. Probably never did.
Cootabux 4 weeks ago
Jehovah Witnesses are sheltered and told what they need to know without question
trailerfitter2 5 months ago
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Bruce lee was an atheist?
r29 8 months ago
@r29 yeah, in that Bruce lee didn't believe in any gods. although i think it had more to do with a rejection of all organized dogma's or doctrines much as he rejected similar dogma's in the martial arts world
KaijinDV 1 month ago
at - 6:48 - no one you know states the universe came from nothing.
Search youtube for A Universe From Nothing' by Lawrence Krauss, AAI 2009
norwayjonas 9 months ago
I know it's an appeal to authority but... You know you're right when you have Bruce Lee on your side.
TheCrescentKnight 11 months ago
I think that, when he's talkin' 'bout future, he's refering to the afterlife... And remember not to drink poison...
DeistByDefinition 11 months ago
Burce Lee was atheist? you learn somehing new everyday :)
viicISrotcib 11 months ago
Hi Brett, just wanted to point out, George Orwell wasn't really an avowed atheist. He was more weak Anglican... and he died pretty young, unfortunately.
Brascofarian 1 year ago
5:40
Cells, how do they work?
ivann198 1 year ago
What? "If you want to be healthy, do not drink poison..."
But that shouldn't matter. Since if all one has to do is believe in god and they will be protected from poison, like in Mark:16 15-20
AmosTheTalented 1 year ago 2
brett, @4:23 you show what looks like a time lapse evolving of something and I saw something like this in another of your videos. what is that and where could i find it? is it something on youtube? i'm really trying to better grasp evolution and i would love to see this if i could. i'm still trying to get past all the blocks and confusion due to years of indoctrination in creationism. thanks!
withfootnotes 1 year ago
@withfootnotes At 4:23 that's just a timelapse of a gecko being "eaten" by ants. Not evolution. Best thing I would suggest is reading some basic books. Three off the top of my head that would recommend are: "The Greatest Show on Earth" by Richard Dawkins; "Why Evolution Works (and Creationism Fails)" by Matt Young and Paul K. Strode; "Evolution: What the Fossils Say and Why It Matters" by Donald R. Prothero. Good luck!!
brettppalmer 1 year ago
@brettppalmer oops! o.o i saw that and something on another vid and thought it was something else. anyway, thanks for the recommendations. i love to read but i find with evolution i find some of it so hard to grasp. i'm not very scientific minded and i also have trouble with comprehension but i will try to read it slowly.
again, thanks!
withfootnotes 1 year ago
@withfootnotes That's what makes those titles so awesome! One needn't a degree in biology to understand them. They were written for laymen like us!
brettppalmer 1 year ago
@brettppalmer brett, i appreciate that but what you couldn't (and how could you as you don't know me) understand is that i'm not "like us" and i never was, even at seventeen years old when i was "born again". the problem is that all my disabilities became suspended for 28 years because god would work a miracle(and i was promised this). now here i am all these years later, without any answers to prayer and basically the same only worse because of god and his wonderful promises.
withfootnotes 1 year ago
@withfootnotes also, please don't feel a need to respond, just explaining. i will still def get my hands on those books. hopefully they will help me understand and bring some sort of peace. this is, in the words of the great Chicago tune, only the beginning.......
withfootnotes 1 year ago
seldom have I read a more feeble critique as the one presented here. I was hoping for something of real substance, but instead got a list of books and a 'who's who' of famous atheist. Yes, I agree, it would take books to explain something which probably has no validity, re: the comment made regarding the authorship of the Bible, to the end that one simple example isn't produced here. The rest of the critisisms are just petty. You'll need to do better next time. Better still, dont bother!
lyricmaster007 1 year ago
@lyricmaster007 Seldom have I read a more hyperbolic, kneejerk reaction. So, it took me four videos to do nothing more than present books and list a who's who of atheists? You don't like it that I didn't spend more time trying to school the Watchman in current biblical scholarship regarding authorship? And you think I'M being petty? I think a trip to mirror is in order for you, sir. If you think The Watchman made a point I missed, perhaps you can present it.
brettppalmer 1 year ago
This man needs to see these videos...so he doesn't ruin his career further.
mysterioso2006 1 year ago
Ayn Rand? Really? I guess personality cults don't count as religion if you're the cult's focus, but if you're the god of the cult and an atheist, do you just disbelieve yourself or do you violate a logical absolute?
GabrieLaVedier 1 year ago
this series rules. rock on!
h0tsex0r 1 year ago
"If you don't want to be an atheist, then don't read..." Censorship #FTW !!!
freethinker923 1 year ago
Cose2cose does a call in show imitating a thumper with a show to take Bible questions. The Watchman shows how difficult it is to parody a thumper.
After both RHYMEMAIDEN1 and KingHeathen recommended your channel, I came over to check it out. I have just watched 17 videos in one sitting. Tomorrow is my day off, so I should be able to watch the rest and maybe start over.
Keep them coming!
8WholeThing 1 year ago 2
@8WholeThing Holy crap, dude! Take a break! But thanks for watching! Seriously...I'll keep makin' 'em if ya'll keep watchin' 'em! ;)
brettppalmer 1 year ago
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joywonder 1 year ago
I guess I have no future. No future as a JW, yes, I'd agree.
mydogbanjo 1 year ago
@mydogbanjo try to convince brett to put some famous athiest that I know on the video pol pot cambodian leader murderer of what 15000000. joey stalin 16000000 or more and the one that gave hitler the gas chambers. guys to be proud of for sure.
joywonder 1 year ago
@joywonder (I know this is futile but...) Joy? Why don't you try linking atheism to these deaths you're tallying. In other words, were the deaths done in the name of atheism or for some politically motivated reason? Answer the question WHY were those people killed? Then look down and see if your own religion's hands of history are clean.
brettppalmer 1 year ago
@brettppalmer I am saying this about stalin so that you look at your hands and tell me if athiests hands are clean. I have to tell you if a little god in the life of a nut would have stopped him from killing 16000000 jews don t know. But he did outlaw religion and killed another 14000000 yes that was because he wanted a completely atheist country "Religion is the opium of the people" ment death for many. typical boring dawkins thoughts are well typical and boring
joywonder 1 year ago
@joywonder Not sure why that's relevant to the JWs Watchman thing, however the people you mentioned are most certainly among the worst that the human species has ever produced. There is no understateing the atrocities commited by these monsters. I don't happen to believe it was atheism that inspired them. These men were sociopaths and sadists. They used socialism as a tool to rise into power and "the cause" to excuse their actions. Atheism seems to have had little to do with it.
mydogbanjo 1 year ago
@mydogbanjo you are hitting the guy in a 5 part show for a year that isn t so bad but your errors and stupidies are laughable. maybe you don t have a future as a jw
joywonder 1 year ago
@joywonder I have no idea what you're saying other than I have no future as a JW, which I agree with because I'm agnostic. You may be referencing comments from other posts or from other people. Not sure what "stupidies" is, or what's so goddamn "laughable"? If you could be more specific, I'd appreciate it. It's hard to know how to reply to what appears to me to be gibberish.
I happen to agree with a lot of Brett's views. He makes some great points.
mydogbanjo 1 year ago
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joywonder 1 year ago
@joywonder I see. Well, I'm glad you cleared that up....and yes, my dog's name really is Banjo.
mydogbanjo 1 year ago
Somewhat ironic, using the timbuk3 song at the end there.
Would not be surprised to find Bruce Lee was an atheist, but did he ever explicitly state that?
Maxdwolf 1 year ago
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clearlyblurry 1 year ago
@clearlyblurry Wise idea to remove your comment. But, to answer it, I put a large number of entertainers as "successful" atheists at the end of the video because I was going for recognition. Most of the other atheists I could have placed there wouldn't be recognized by their face alone. Hope that clears it up for you...
brettppalmer 1 year ago
That guy has a beard and doesn't know the most basic of the Witness creed.
He is not a JW, or if he is, he is a ridiculous one.
For example : The author of each books of the bible (including the "anonymous" one) is written on the last pages of the JW's bible. That he screws this is weird.
/Ex-JW
XXIstCenturyBoy 1 year ago
July, 15 2010 -
Ramon Sanchez was arrested after the 12-year-old girl reported the incident.The alleged incident occurred on Jan. 10 at the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses at 319 Price Ave., which both individuals attend. Sanchez offered the girl money and told her to meet him inside the bathrooms, an arrest affidavit states. The unidentified girl then met him inside the restroom area, where Sanchez kissed her, fondled her, gave her $20 and returned to the church, according to the affidavit.
liimra4all 1 year ago
@archeng123
Yes, of course.
Still that doesn't mean your syllogistic conclusion isn't fallacious.
Infact it is highly fallacious.
Evolution is NOT a cognitive being, it has no plan, no set course.
Also you are making an "post hoc ergo propter hoc" argument, which is also fallacious.
normangbates 1 year ago
@archeng123
I'll answer for him, of course he's a product of evolution, just like you and me and every other living organism on the planet.
nakedapedude 1 year ago
@archeng123 I am willing to agree that through evolution humans gained a capacity to utilize their brains in such a way that we are able to reason, predict and extrapolate. As to "everything that exists" ...I don't see how evolution has anything to do with say cosmology or the standard model since evolution speaks only to variation of species. This is a common fallacy found amoungst fundamentalists who haven't really studied science. I think you're out of your depth here...no offense intended.
MasterOhSo 1 year ago
I love the little giggles when he is unsure.
Royaleah 1 year ago
Outstanding!
pianodavy 1 year ago
Evolution created long, tusk-like canines in the sabre-tooth cats, which were good for hunting LARGE game, but they became a hindrance when the environment changed and large game disappeared. Thus, sabre-tooths are now extinct.
Likewise, evolution created the mental faculty in humans to seek "explanations" for things. This is useful for practical purposes of survival, but it becomes a hindrance when one uses it to "fill in the blanks" of what one does not know, to answer the "BIG" questions.
Starbat88 1 year ago
Of course, I don't mean to say that we should not SEEK explanations and answers to the "BIG" questions, but we should not pretend to know something that we simply do not.
As said in this video series, "God" has no explanatory power. It is an intellectual cop-out to just say "God did it".
So to proclaim "God did it" as a legitimate answer is intellectually dishonest. Just admit you DON'T KNOW what created the universe, like any self-respecting scientist.
Starbat88 1 year ago
@archeng123 I agree that I am a product of the natural process of evolution. Evolution however does not explain "everything that exists." It only pertains only to the diversity of life on the planet. Other naturalistic processes and forces explain other things like gravity, nuclear fusion within stars, etc.
Please don't mix evolution with other naturalistic theories.
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
@archeng123
You swing, you miss: God/religion is a Meme, not a gene.
Next to that: trying to give evolution cognitive abilities and talk about it as if it where a person with plans wishes and credit it with a level of intelligence is just plain silly.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about: get educated first!
normangbates 1 year ago
haha a few fries short of a happy meal
TheLiberalSoup 1 year ago
@archeng123 I'm not coming from any perspective. Evolution does not need "god" to happen. It is a natural process. If you want to say that "god" is responsible for it, then you must 1) define what "god" is, 2) provide proof that god exists, and demonstrate 3) HOW god is directing evolution with testable, verifiable evidence.
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
@archeng123 Evolution doesn't require anyone to "think about it", it is a biological process that is independent of what we think. Humans may have attached word sounds to "things" in order to share our thoughts or to describe them, but there are many languages and they all use different words to describe the same subject so the wordplay you employ is basically meaningless. I see you confusing words and definitions for physical reality. It reminds me of "if a tree falls and no one hears it..." :)
MasterOhSo 1 year ago
@archeng123 again, evolution does not "need" a god to happen. It does not speak to if there is a god or not. It is a natural process.
Humans are the ones who thought up "god" most likely as a way to explain the natural world. As humans learned more about their world, supernatural explanations were abandoned for naturalistic ones. For instance thunder. At one time humans thought thunder was from the gods activities. Epilepsy was assumed to be because of spirits or curses.
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
Hahaha, perfect ending
anzwertree 1 year ago
@archeng123 where does evolution make an argument for god?! All evolution pertains to is the diversity of life on earth.
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
The first book you listed was the one I read in college. That was one of the books I mentioned in my e-mail to him. I don't understand where the whole conspiracy idea comes from, that there's all these professors, scientists, and scholars that have all secretly agreed to oppose the Bible through deception
anzwertree 1 year ago
@anzwertree Are you kidding? So he sees Richard Elliott Friedman, professor of Hebrew and Comparative Literature at UCSD and STILL has the gall to say "anyone can write a book"?? Wow...I thought only ex-librarian dorks like JPH said crap like that.
brettppalmer 1 year ago
@brettppalmer Ex-librarian dorks who self-publish through Xulon, ironically enough, however! :)
brettppalmer 1 year ago
@brettppalmer yeah, he obviously hasn't read the book yet. But given there's a global conspiracy to overthrow the Bible, he likely won't ever read it
anzwertree 1 year ago
@anzwertree Nice work inspiring this series!
StubbornProgrammer 1 year ago
@StubbornProgrammer I just pointed Brett in the right direction. He went far and beyond anything I expected. If anybody should be thanked for inspiration, it should be eWatchman. As part of the exJW community, Robert King is well known on our side. But rational skeptics rarely come out our way. And while there is no shortage of fundamentalist on Youtube, there is a shortage of critically thinking individuals. This is an excellent series because it exposes an otherwise unnoticed side of Youtube
anzwertree 1 year ago
@StubbornProgrammer oh, and eWatchman has a Youtube channel too: ewatchmandotcom
anzwertree 1 year ago
@anzwertree I'll have to go over there and have a look. Thanks!
StubbornProgrammer 1 year ago
I'm not sure this guy is still an "approved" member of the JWs. For one thing, active JWs are not permitted to preach on their own through Youtube videos, websites, blogs, podcasts, etc. They're only allowed to preach according to Watchtower guidelines and in conjunction with a JW congregation.
Second, you notice his beard. JW men, especially if baptised, are strongly discouraged from growing a beard. If they do, they aren't permitted to preach or hold positions of authority.
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
@TheRecoveringZombie That was both interesting and informative *tip of the hat*
MasterOhSo 1 year ago
@MasterOhSo I'm not 100% for sure but I doubt he's still a Jehovah's Witness. I was born and raised in that horrid cult and I know how the Watchtower does its business and this guy isn't following their guidelines.
I don't know why he's doing what he's doing.
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
@archeng123 you had asked this on one of your videos and I said the same thing that the rest of these folks are saying. Evolution and a belief in god are not necessarily incompatible. It is however incompatible with the creation account in Genesis. So what? There is a perfectly plausible explanation why a belief in god developed in humans. Early humans needed a way to explain the world around them and since they didn't have a lot of naturalistic knowledge, they used a supernatural one.
TheRecoveringZombie 1 year ago
3:00, "Don't read this nonsense..." Of course he doesn't want his listeners to read other books, any other books... Because then people will see what he says for what it really is - drivel!
Great finish to your video! :) It was needed after listening to the 'watchman'.
dewinthemorning 1 year ago 2
@archeng123 Please research evolution before you make a comment.
gir908922 1 year ago
@archeng123
"bla bla everything cam e by chance, bla bla"
/facepalm:
Natural SELECTION you fool, natural SELECTION.
Take some books (Math, Chemistry, Physics & Biology and psychology) and get f*ing educated!
You are presenting yourself like a fool!
& google following: "argument from ignorance", "god of the gaps" & "burden of proof"
The burden of proof lies upon YOU: you claim a magical zombie god exist who is his own father who created the whole universe just to mess with genitals: prove it.
normangbates 1 year ago
@archeng123 "why would evolution need to create an idea to oppose itself"
Evolution does NOT "oppose" a belief in God. It only opposes the Bible. And evolution had nothing to do with the writing of the Bible. It had more to do with a bunch of pretentious Bronze Age patriarchs.
Starbat88 1 year ago
Thanks for this great series of videos!
Orsbore 1 year ago
LOL! This Christian apologist continues to keep shoving his head even further up his ass. XD
gir908922 1 year ago
@gir908922 I also love how he insinuates that knowledge and skepticism are poison.
gir908922 1 year ago
@archeng123 Are you being serious? If you are, the "comments" section here on YouTube really isn't the place to have this exchange. If you're directing your question(s) to me, please submit them to my email (brettppalmer @ gmail . com --remove the spaces) and I'd be happy to engage you that way. I don't work well with character limitations! (And, who knows, maybe I can make a video from our discussion!)
brettppalmer 1 year ago
@archeng123 god and evolution do not necessarily oppose one another...they are not mutually exclusive. Evolution does not create...it is a process by which complex organisims emerge by selection be it natural or otherwise. Why would a belief in a god or gods come about? Being that polytheism predates monotheism I'll begin with "gods". The gods were a mechanism to explain the unexplainable..like weather or sickness. God was created by man as a tool of social control. In a nutshell, that's it :)
MasterOhSo 1 year ago
Great series. Nice conclusion. I hope this goofball sees these videos.
Starbat88 1 year ago
Loved this series. The 'just ignore what you wish not to believe' strategy is brilliant! Willful ignorance raised to an art form! LOL
disrxt 1 year ago