It's hard to say whether or not I support the health plan since nobody knows what it is yet. Obama has done a poor job of defining and building support and let wackos define it with lies. No matter what is done we will not be a healthier country unless we put a lot more focus on preventive care and healthier living, and make the relationships more about patient/doctor and less about patient/bureaucrat. And that's hard to do since so many make money off the inefficiency of the status quo.
Thanks SMN, I appreciate it. I'd love to see this discussion opened up for a vote of the people, not our supposed representatives. I know that isn't realistic, but I bet we'd all have health care in this country.
health care is not a right. You do not have the right to the labor of a doctor. Nobody should have to make you medical supplies. If you have the right to health care, that means other people have to do things for you. They do not. If you want water, food, or health care, you have to get it yourself.
That is a really interesting perspective, and currently you're correct, but it doesn't answer my basic question. Would you, holding the sole vote, cancel the current entitlement programs?
Yes I would cancel Social Security and Medicare. Social Security is supposed to be a forced savings program. I think people should be able to decide when to spend or save their own money. Medicare amounts to a huge transfer of money from the young to the old. If the government didn't tax away your money during your working life, you would have the money to invest in health care later on when you retire.
We do owe our wounded veterans, so I am in favor of giving them either cash or medical care. I believe a less regulated system would help many of the problems you described. To pay for cancer treatment if you need it, you should be able to have an "oh shit" insurance policy, that kicks in only if you have a serious and very expensive medical problem. You could pay cash for normal doctor visits and drugs. Currently that is illegal.
Dude Im Canadian so to me this is a NO BRAINER..... I have healthcare and enjoy the luxury of knowing its there whenever i need it. Its not free but affordable. Our system has its problems, But its affordable and always being improved. What I do like is if I really really needed to get to the front of the line I can just drive down to the USA PAY CASH and get to the front of the line before most Americans.
MBV, you realize we have lines now right? When is the last time you got a same day visit? I have as good of insurance as they come and I can't get in under a week or two wait.
I see doctors every few weeks and I find that with the exception of my heart DR I can get in right away and any test is same day unlike the rest of the world.
Just in the last year I have had three MRI's and an X-Ray along with a shit ton of blood work and they have been all same day! That just does not happen in the rest of the world...
Two month wait WOW! Only my cardiologist keeps me waiting 4 that long. Yep cut Israel off along with the rest of those blood sucking bastards who hate us anyway! Tricare has come a long way however the best part of Tricare is the civilian health care professionals. IMO! Was your Doc a military or civilian Doc?
he was either still in, or a civilian who had served. i cannot remember what he wore under his white coat. but he was a good dr to me. would go back to him if given the choice.
No if I need care and want to go to the front of a line I can go to the USA and pay cash... In canada they dont have cash registers in the hospitals.. If you go to a clinic you can pay cash for a boob job but not heart bypass. Heart bypasses are free. Boobs are like 2,500.00
I'm just trying to confirm for sure. I imagined he could mean the care was available in Canada but for some reason, such as superior quality care, he would choose to come to the US when paying cash.
nope. You get in line, If your bleeding you go in front of the guy who is not bleeding. its based on priority. Some people have to waite for a knee operation while they use the surgery room for a liver transplant. I answered the Cash question best with the boob job answer. Boobs cost 2,500.00 for like really nice boobs. But heart bypass surgery is free.
well they have to do the surgery in a government hospital system, so they cant just pop open a private clinic. I could be wrong but that would be the first time in years if I was. Jail is a great place it also has fee health care in Canada.
lmao, dude, I don't know why your way of explaining things makes me laugh but it does. Awesome answers, thanks for taking the time, it's very interesting stuff.
I believe we need a one world system that helps out all of mankind in such a way that we help the human race and not our fuckin' wallets. Impeach the political system and implement Brass Tacks. ;) We need more Education and less oppression through the media, we all must unite and come together or we are going to continue to be boiled alive without even knowing the flames were lit. At least this is how I feel now.
The thing is the VA IS government ran healthcare and if Obama care passes that is what you will get the same health care your dad had! Free at what cost??
Trust me you dont want 100% Government ran health care! Take a tour of a VA hospital and then ask yourself if you would want that for you or your family. I know firsthand what I am talking about as I spent three months in a military hospital and could tell you some horrifying stories.
We need to fix some things in our system like preexisting conditions but that can be done without going full out Canada. You are a young idealist my friend and I hope I still know you in ten years so I can remind you of some of the ideas you had LOL!!
ha, no answer to my question. I have no doubt the VA could be better, my question was are we better with or without it. For 47,000,000 people they don't even come up to the quality of care you're upset with. Do you vote yes for them, or do you vote no?
I'm sure there are a lot of ideas but right off hand some places I'd like to see looked into would be Leave Iraq, use buying power to pressure price reductions and remove the ability for insurance companies to profit off of denying care.
FYI we are never leaving Iraq no matter what your boy told you in order to get elected. I would be cool with disbanding the post office in order 2 pay 4 health care. Another good choice would be to cancel most foreign aid. Also cut out all student aid if people want their education paid 4 they can do what I did and join the military. Anyway sacrifices will need 2 be made but you will get your not so free health care
The post office will become irrelevant without any help from outsiders, the rest we'll never agree on but you know I think you're awesome. Crazy, but still awesome.
It's interesting to see the venom in these town hall meeting from people who I'm sure can't afford the current high end care they might need if they suffered a life-threatening condition.
I wonder if they actually think about what they're so angry over? Great video, Mac.
Hard for me to say much, except im all for it. I havent had insurance in years... and it is so expensive. It is not a luxury... its a need. We need water, food, sleep, medical assistance. All things we need so we dont die. A country full of sick weak people without medical insurance... that is not ethical, nor will it help keep money flowing to help the economy
I have a pre existing heart condition, so im screwed either way...
well said mac
Trizik 2 years ago
It's hard to say whether or not I support the health plan since nobody knows what it is yet. Obama has done a poor job of defining and building support and let wackos define it with lies. No matter what is done we will not be a healthier country unless we put a lot more focus on preventive care and healthier living, and make the relationships more about patient/doctor and less about patient/bureaucrat. And that's hard to do since so many make money off the inefficiency of the status quo.
FantasticBabblings 2 years ago
I certainly agree that profit really needs to be removed from the system.
methodofmac 2 years ago
Thanks SMN, I appreciate it. I'd love to see this discussion opened up for a vote of the people, not our supposed representatives. I know that isn't realistic, but I bet we'd all have health care in this country.
methodofmac 2 years ago
Totally agree mac
Vid coming.
Not at a camera right now
Jp
jessicapeanut 2 years ago
Sounds good!
methodofmac 2 years ago
...excellent vlog mac...
leafdude 2 years ago
Leafy! Hope you're doing well my brother.
methodofmac 2 years ago
health care is not a right. You do not have the right to the labor of a doctor. Nobody should have to make you medical supplies. If you have the right to health care, that means other people have to do things for you. They do not. If you want water, food, or health care, you have to get it yourself.
jeffmagic32 2 years ago
That is a really interesting perspective, and currently you're correct, but it doesn't answer my basic question. Would you, holding the sole vote, cancel the current entitlement programs?
methodofmac 2 years ago
Yes I would cancel Social Security and Medicare. Social Security is supposed to be a forced savings program. I think people should be able to decide when to spend or save their own money. Medicare amounts to a huge transfer of money from the young to the old. If the government didn't tax away your money during your working life, you would have the money to invest in health care later on when you retire.
jeffmagic32 2 years ago
We do owe our wounded veterans, so I am in favor of giving them either cash or medical care. I believe a less regulated system would help many of the problems you described. To pay for cancer treatment if you need it, you should be able to have an "oh shit" insurance policy, that kicks in only if you have a serious and very expensive medical problem. You could pay cash for normal doctor visits and drugs. Currently that is illegal.
jeffmagic32 2 years ago
I don't know if you do videos but you have an interesting perspective, it might be an interesting talk if you're interested.
methodofmac 2 years ago
dude I miss your vlogs like this....I want to see more
and I agree with you 100%
matrix2k3 2 years ago
I 2nd that!!
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
Thanks brother Matrix!
methodofmac 2 years ago
Dude Im Canadian so to me this is a NO BRAINER..... I have healthcare and enjoy the luxury of knowing its there whenever i need it. Its not free but affordable. Our system has its problems, But its affordable and always being improved. What I do like is if I really really needed to get to the front of the line I can just drive down to the USA PAY CASH and get to the front of the line before most Americans.
3101010 2 years ago
lmao, I believe it.
Thanks for the comment, it's nice to hear from someone who has experienced one of the national options for healthcare.
methodofmac 2 years ago
So if you really need care you drive 2 the US and PAY CASH! LOL!!!!!!
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
MBV, you realize we have lines now right? When is the last time you got a same day visit? I have as good of insurance as they come and I can't get in under a week or two wait.
methodofmac 2 years ago
I see doctors every few weeks and I find that with the exception of my heart DR I can get in right away and any test is same day unlike the rest of the world.
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
Just in the last year I have had three MRI's and an X-Ray along with a shit ton of blood work and they have been all same day! That just does not happen in the rest of the world...
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
Ha, I want your doctor brother, I can't get that to happen here!
methodofmac 2 years ago
2 month wait to see my dermatologist. and i pay him cash.
to your comment above, i agree about the foreign aid. we could stop sending all that money to israel, for example.
btw, when i still had military insurance and came back to the US, i was pleased w my VA doctor. just sayin. it was tricare.
achampag 2 years ago
Two month wait WOW! Only my cardiologist keeps me waiting 4 that long. Yep cut Israel off along with the rest of those blood sucking bastards who hate us anyway! Tricare has come a long way however the best part of Tricare is the civilian health care professionals. IMO! Was your Doc a military or civilian Doc?
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
he was either still in, or a civilian who had served. i cannot remember what he wore under his white coat. but he was a good dr to me. would go back to him if given the choice.
achampag 2 years ago
Thanks for chiming in Lea!
methodofmac 2 years ago
No if I need care and want to go to the front of a line I can go to the USA and pay cash... In canada they dont have cash registers in the hospitals.. If you go to a clinic you can pay cash for a boob job but not heart bypass. Heart bypasses are free. Boobs are like 2,500.00
3101010 2 years ago
lmao, now that is a sentence I didn't think I would read today.
methodofmac 2 years ago
are you free to pay cash to a Canadian doctor or hospital and get the care right away?
jeffmagic32 2 years ago
Why would he drive 2 the US if he could get the cash hook up in Canada...
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
I'm just trying to confirm for sure. I imagined he could mean the care was available in Canada but for some reason, such as superior quality care, he would choose to come to the US when paying cash.
jeffmagic32 2 years ago
nope. You get in line, If your bleeding you go in front of the guy who is not bleeding. its based on priority. Some people have to waite for a knee operation while they use the surgery room for a liver transplant. I answered the Cash question best with the boob job answer. Boobs cost 2,500.00 for like really nice boobs. But heart bypass surgery is free.
3101010 2 years ago
so its illegal for a doctor to offer you surgery outside of the state system? Can a doctor go to jail for this? Can you?
jeffmagic32 2 years ago
well they have to do the surgery in a government hospital system, so they cant just pop open a private clinic. I could be wrong but that would be the first time in years if I was. Jail is a great place it also has fee health care in Canada.
3101010 2 years ago
lmao, dude, I don't know why your way of explaining things makes me laugh but it does. Awesome answers, thanks for taking the time, it's very interesting stuff.
methodofmac 2 years ago
I believe we need a one world system that helps out all of mankind in such a way that we help the human race and not our fuckin' wallets. Impeach the political system and implement Brass Tacks. ;) We need more Education and less oppression through the media, we all must unite and come together or we are going to continue to be boiled alive without even knowing the flames were lit. At least this is how I feel now.
-m
LARC0 2 years ago
Larc0 is starting the revolution!
methodofmac 2 years ago
A single payer system is what we need, medicare for all. Constantly worrying about getting ill in this country, is not freedom.
Maiyanna 2 years ago
Couldn't agree more.
methodofmac 2 years ago
Mac...Thank you soooooooooo much for this video.
My sister does not have coverage for her pregnancy because, it is a Pre-Existing condition. A baby is a condition...Nice huh?
My mom is on medicare and she is paying 80.00 a month out of her SSI pay. She is using her SSI to pay medicare.
The VA is a joke. They treat our veterans like crap my dad died in a VA Hospital with Stage 4 cancer which could have been treated.
My MIL has 4 jobs and NO health insurance so no more arthritis meds GRR
ahonestwoman 2 years ago
We need to reform ALL of these programs and if anyone can do it..I believe it is Obama. (if he doesn't go half way)...We need to get this fixed.
Thanks so much for this video and I miss YOUR discussion videos....
GREAT POINTS!!
ahonestwoman 2 years ago
Thanks...
methodofmac 2 years ago
The thing is the VA IS government ran healthcare and if Obama care passes that is what you will get the same health care your dad had! Free at what cost??
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
I stand by my response MBV.
methodofmac 2 years ago
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ahonestwoman 2 years ago
Trust me you dont want 100% Government ran health care! Take a tour of a VA hospital and then ask yourself if you would want that for you or your family. I know firsthand what I am talking about as I spent three months in a military hospital and could tell you some horrifying stories.
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
We need to fix some things in our system like preexisting conditions but that can be done without going full out Canada. You are a young idealist my friend and I hope I still know you in ten years so I can remind you of some of the ideas you had LOL!!
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
BTW... Five Stars!!
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
ha, no answer to my question. I have no doubt the VA could be better, my question was are we better with or without it. For 47,000,000 people they don't even come up to the quality of care you're upset with. Do you vote yes for them, or do you vote no?
methodofmac 2 years ago
As long as I get 2 keep my INS then I am cool with paying 4 the 47 mil however how do you propose we pay for it?? And please dont say tax the rich
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
I'm sure there are a lot of ideas but right off hand some places I'd like to see looked into would be Leave Iraq, use buying power to pressure price reductions and remove the ability for insurance companies to profit off of denying care.
methodofmac 2 years ago
FYI we are never leaving Iraq no matter what your boy told you in order to get elected. I would be cool with disbanding the post office in order 2 pay 4 health care. Another good choice would be to cancel most foreign aid. Also cut out all student aid if people want their education paid 4 they can do what I did and join the military. Anyway sacrifices will need 2 be made but you will get your not so free health care
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
The post office will become irrelevant without any help from outsiders, the rest we'll never agree on but you know I think you're awesome. Crazy, but still awesome.
methodofmac 2 years ago
...:)
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
It's interesting to see the venom in these town hall meeting from people who I'm sure can't afford the current high end care they might need if they suffered a life-threatening condition.
I wonder if they actually think about what they're so angry over? Great video, Mac.
MrPoe 2 years ago
Thanks, my first supporter from the medical profession, it's DrPoe! ;)
methodofmac 2 years ago
★★★★★
NewOrleansTours 2 years ago
Thanks Casey.
methodofmac 2 years ago
Hard for me to say much, except im all for it. I havent had insurance in years... and it is so expensive. It is not a luxury... its a need. We need water, food, sleep, medical assistance. All things we need so we dont die. A country full of sick weak people without medical insurance... that is not ethical, nor will it help keep money flowing to help the economy
I have a pre existing heart condition, so im screwed either way...
Great vid Mac <3
CinderFNRella 2 years ago
Agreed all around. Thanks for chiming in, you're awesome.
methodofmac 2 years ago
Cinder 4 the WIN!!
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
Ha, agreed. The answer is to deliver on the promise instead of finding reasons not to.
methodofmac 2 years ago
Nice to hear from you on a serous subject.... well done.
theEnforcer87 2 years ago
Thanks bro, appreciate it. A lot of times I'm not sure if people like this kind of video so I try not to over do them.
methodofmac 2 years ago