Poor interpretation lacking the tragic approach and russian temper needed im the first place to be felt to actually understand and interpret such a prelude
@geertdehoux GEERT DEHOUX..IK ZEG U HIERBIJ FORMEEL DAT IK VASTBESLOTEN BEN UW BEDRIEGERSMENTALITEIT IVM BEWUSTE PRIVE OPNAMEN ALGEMEEN BEKEND TE MAKEN. ZOALS GEZEGD MAAK IK MIJ PUBLIEK BEKEND EN IS ER VAN "STALKING" TOTAAL GEEN SPRAKE. A CORDIAL GREETING
@geertdehoux BEDROEVEND DAT EEN PIANIST /LANDGENOOT ZICH BEZIGHOUD MET HET MANIPULEREN VAN OPNAMEN OM INDRUK TE MAKEN OP ONWETENDEN .U HEEFT BIJ U THUIS 5 PIANOS STAAN {HEBT GE ME ZELF VERTELD} WAAROM WAS HET DAN NODIG OM TIJDENS DIE PRIVE OPNAMEN EEN DIGITALE WERSI PIANO TE GEBRUIKEN.?..WANNEER GAAT GE NU EINDELIJK EENS "EERLIJK".TOEGEVEN DAT HET DE "MACHINE "WAS DIE ZO SPEELT EN NIET "GIJ"?? WAT EEN EGOTRIPPER....DA'S ALLES VRIEND. WALTER SCHUERMANS PIANIST
Monumental version of this wellknown piece. Transcends its étude-character, just as in the Chopin études, for which he is more widely known. With Cortot one forgets that a work has already been played a thousand times, because he always brings something new. It was and is something no other pianist ever achieved and one of the reasons, that contempory, famous pianists attended his recitals to find new inspiration for themselves. A bit over-processed MP3 though (harshness in high frequencies)
compare with Horowitz and you can understand that he was under influence of Cortot. He must have heard his recordings or even live. As he met Cortot in Paris and tried to learn from him. The power of sound Cortot had is similar to Horowitz. And the power of structure and conception too. Although Horowitz took a different way
I just listened to "Scriabin plays Scriabin" (this piece). I consider his playing to be somewhere between Cortot and Kissin, but clearer than Kissin. Horowitz was interesting, but out of the ballpark emotionally. Cortot is still my favorite.
Well, I have just watched Horowitz, Kissin, and now listened to Cortot. Purely personal, mind you, but only in Cortot was I able to "hear the music." Maybe if I were in a more tortured mood I would choose the Horowitz... Whether Scrjabin himself intended more fire, the melody is too beautiful to not hear more clearly.
You never know what to expect from Cortot and then you find yourself being completely mesmerized each and every time. His interpretations are so unique and musically compelling. Having said that, if I had to show anyone this piece for their first time I wouldn't start here.
after hearing horowitz, kissin and scriabin himself play this pice, i thought that it would probably be pretty "romantic", if played a bit slower. it is, but i prefer it played faster.
@daniel15671 When did this etude suddenly have a "Balladeque quality"? He drags the melodic lines tortuously out. It's like a dead thing. I can't bear the abuse of rubato in the entire middle section. He might have mastered it in Chopin, but that approach doesn't work with Scriabin.
@demosj I think it "suddenly" had a balladesque quality when Cortot played it, obviously. If you don't think it works in this performance, that's your prerogative. However, it's a commonplace to note that early Scriabin and Chopin are closely related stylistically. I happen to think, as do many others, that Cortot's playing of this work is dramatic and powerful.
Ah, ok. Ik wist niet dat hij zo'n persoon was, ik zag namelijk alleen 1 berichtje van hem staan. Het verklaart een hoop. Ik zag via zijn channel dat meerdere mensen last van hem hebben, misschien een tip om deze persoon te rapporteren bij youtube over zijn gedrag.
@geertdehoux Ik heb tot hiertoe nog altij geen bericht van youtube gekregen hoor..Marcel Mombeek en ik hebben ondertussen al een kleine correspondentie opgezet..Ik gellof niet dat hij het is die youtube ingelich zou hebben over mijn zogezegd"wangedrag"...luister vriend Youtube is geen kindertuin en iedereen heeft het recht om te zeggen wat er moet gezegd worden ..in uw geval is dat simpelweg het volgende: gij laat mensen geloven dat bewuste opnamen origineel zijn "private recordings.".
@geertdehoux Een internationaal bekende Jazzpianist,en zeer goede vriend,heeft beaamt dat de Chopin etude,Liszt nr.1 and Gottshalletwete ,gespeeld zijn op een digitale piano.Tijdens deze opname werdde opnamesnelheid {metronoom} zeer laag gezet.Zodoende kon jij deze stukken aan een trage snelheid opnemen{ bij gebrek aan het "echt" kunnen uiteraard}.Nadien smijt ge de snelheidsindicator open en zie..THE FENOMENALE PIANIST GEERT DEHOUX...YOU are the CHEATER and IMPOSTOR ..not me my friend..
@geertdehoux Many people like my screenname"abmsghost".You are just jealous isnt'it? I noticed that you have ,in different forums,on youtube arguments with many people..you declare them sometimes as "stupid" and "ignorant".Like "wayneredheart" for example.He really got you in a corner didn't he? haha..what did you do?you run away?Coward.
@geertdehoux I publicly admitted that I indeed have no degrees.Like your friend MM.So how dare you to say that I am a liar,cheater and impostor? Should people that have no degrees shut up for impostors like you..Degrees are not always a garantee for high level musicianship or skills as is clear when listening to your recordings.Your Chopin Polonaise is the biggest insult ever done to this beautifull piece.Tremendous noice and banging all over the piece.You are not capable of perceiving beauty.
@geertdehoux Gij kunt de op.10 nr.1 etude van chopin in 4 sec uitleggen?...uw raad aan leerlingen wereldwijd is belachelijk en kompleet naast de kwestie..ONNOZELAAR...is da wagegeleerd hebt in de mezeekschool?hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa......
@geertdehoux het is algemeen geweten dat "wereldberoemde"concertpianisten NOOIT of zelden naar youtube kijken.maar ok..tzal volodos wel geweest zijn.. het was gewoon kritiek van de ene amateur naar de andere...zo'en lawaai jong..die engineer van MIFA vroeg mij achteraf waarom gij zo kwaad was op die piano..
@geertdehoux Het is HEEL opvallend dat ge dus NOOIT reageert op mijn opmerkingen mbt uw "prive opnamen".In plaats daarvan probeert ge mij onder de gordel te slaan met opmerkingen over mijn Solfege en wat weet ik allemaal. We could not help noticing that you NEVER react on my allegations with regards to your"private recordings".Instead you try to hit back by refering to my failure as a student of solfege etc. Very weak!! Your rebutals are completely irrelevant .and you know that!!
@dahood22 Meerdere mensen ?wie zijn dat dan?marcel mombeek?...ge kiest een kamp zonder de ander kant van de klok te horen luiden...bevooroordeeld misschien? wat bwedoelt ge precies met "ik wist niet dat hij zo'een persoon was"
Ondertussen zit hij nog steeds bezig mij te stalken, nu echter op mijn persoonlijk @, dat hij ergens (misschien op mijn website ?) gevonden heeft, want ik heb hem dit zeker niet gegeven!
Maar kijk eens wat een bedrieglijk manneke die Walter Schuermans is: eerst zet hij op het internet dat hij het 3e Pianoconcerto van Rachmaninov tijdens de finale van de Kon. Elisabethwedstrijd heeft uitgevoerd.
@geertdehoux continued:Recently this imposter{Mr.Dehoux has launched viscious and non relevant attacks to a student of mine..a young and extremely gifted boy who has nothing to with me and Mr.Dehoux being at loggerheads.This only proves the cowardish nature of this creature.Please note that on not 1 occasion I have used or tried to influence other people in order to make a strong case against him.I have never requested third parties to take a stance for me..to be continued
@geertdehoux continued:Conclusion:Mr.Dehoux is an imposter until proven right w.r.t.above mentioned recordings.Given his comments on how to practice the Chopin etudes one can only smile with compassion.I am sure and convinced that not many aspiring pianists take his advice for granted.A big thanks to all the people,friends,students and professionals for their support in this quarrel.
Wanneer hij merkt dat ik deze leugen heb gevonden en hem daarop attent maak, doet hij zijn gewauw er snel af en beschuldigt mij vervolgens dat IK dit uit mijn duim gezogen heb!!
En zo een bedrieglijk iemand geeft pianoles aan jonge mensen...!!
Daarbij, als hij het lef heeft zulk een flagrante leugen op het internet te zetten, dan vraag ik mij af met welke leugens hij al dan niet zijn onwetenden in Bangkok opzadelt ??!!
@geertdehoux Dear readers/friends. For your information:up to present day Mr.dehoux has failed to provide us with 1 single acceptable explanation as to how and why he has manipulated so called "private "recordings.Instead this self-proclaimed "concertpianist" has used every possible means to avoid answering the allegations.On a few occasions Mr.Dehoux even claimed that non-graduated people should refrain from commenting on a forum like Youtube.He has done this with a few others as well.
@geertdehoux Stalken?..stalkers spread misinformation and stay anonymous..I,however, speak openly on a public forum ans sign. My only goal is to take the veil of your fake recordings..that's all.Because you have deceived people,including me ..And that is something I will not tolerate. Luister makker..stalkers verspreiden valse informatie en blijven anoniem. Ik maak me bekend op een publiek forum dus uw wanhopige aantijging gaat niet op.U heeft mensen misleid,mij inbegrepen.Onaanvaardbaar,sorry
@geertdehoux Where and when did i say that I played at the Q.E C.?You make this up or what? How am I a liar{about what?},a cheater{in what?} and an impostor?You mean like you did IN YOUR "PRIVATE RECORDINGS"?..WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?Belgiums music elite knows you as"een blaaskaak en vies ventje"..what kind of a man are you to invite a woman to dinner and AFTERWARDS LET HER PAY FOR IT?...What a pathetic laughing stock you are..
U vroeg waar ik mijn oordeel vandaan haalde. als ik 3 of meerdere negatieve comments lees gericht naar u, is de conclusie snel getrokken. Je zei zelf; Youtube is geen kindertuin. Als ik uw reacties lees waar je mensen op de persoon beledigt en aanvalt maakt dat mij vrij te geloven wat ik wil, mijns inziens kunt u beter uw aggressie/onmacht (die ik opmaak uit uw reacties) in de muziek stoppen, Daar zal heel wat mooiers uitkomen dan deze paginalange 'discussies'.
@dahood22 Dag Tom. Bedankt voor je reply.3 of meerdere negative comments wegen niet op tegen de ontelbare positieve kommentaren van anderen ,,op youtube en via prive kanalen.Je hoeft je echt geen zorgen te maken of ik al dan niet mijn tijd in muziek steek.Het is namelijk een full-time bezigheid.Lesgeven aan getalenteerde mensen,komponeren en nu recentelijk ook opnamen...anyway ..thanks fot your concern..vriendelijke groeten walter schuermans pianist
@dahood22 Hobby??!!Zo had ik het nog niet bekeken.Wat een leuke gedachte.
Oplichters ontmaskeren als hobby...al eens de ontelbare,pagina's lange overbodige en onnozele kommentaren van G.D. op tientallen forums alhier op youtube gelezen? van tijdverlies gesproken! en dan maar jammeren dat mensen zo "stupid and ignorant "zijn..laat ons maar zwijgen over de ontelbare negative comments ,door derden,die aan hem gericht zijn ..hij "delete"ze systematisch uiteraard. .hartegroet.W.S. pianist
@dahood22 Wanneer iemand "zonder"diploma's een positieve kommentaar geeft op G.D.word dit altijd op een "cordiale"manier verwelkomt en de bewuste criticus word dan overladen met waarderingen voor het "inzien" van het geniale werk G.D..Wanneer iemand "zonder' diplomas het waagt of de moed heeft zijn frauduleuze recordings te ontmaskeren word bewuste criticus inmiddelijk uitgescholden voor "gefaald pianist musicus"in allerhande vakken aan onze conservatoria.van discriminatie gesproken.what a joke!
@dahood22 Onmacht?Waaruit blijkt dat?Mensen beledigen?Ik?Wie en waar precies? Is het niet eerderGeert die anderen verwijt "stupid"te zijn omdat ze zijn mening niet delen?u heeft te weing of beter gezegd totaal geen' voorkennis" en zodoende maakt u verkeerde observaties en trekt de verkeerde conclusies vanwege uw vooringenomenheid ...spijtig...teleurstellend als het ware...maar toch..
@geertdehoux Zeg! gij promoot graag Vlaamsche componisten he? Awel ik heb iets voor u.. ik heb 2 etudes geschreven voor piano..zijn onlangs in Japan door Japanse pianist gespeeld en met groot enthousiasme ontvangen! geen goesting om ze te spelen in Belgie misschienst.?..of moet ge daar eerst mensen op relevante ministeries voor kennen...?allez t'is maar een vraag he..ze zijn wel moeilijk he G.
walter schuermans pianist?composer zonder diploma's..hahahaaaaaaaa!!!!
@geertdehoux Your inspired"Jaxx Improvisation" is nothing more but proof of your incompetence and mediocrisy.Is this the result of what YOU learned in harmony and solfege classes.You must be fucking joking.You said"I cannot play Jazz at all:.Well,thats pretty clear isnt'it? YOU ARE THE CHEATER AND IMPOSTOR my friend.
@geertdehoux Ja.Waarom zo geirriteerd feitlijk? bewust opnamen zijn niet meer of minder dan een wanhoopspoging van uwentwege om tot het pantheon der groten gerekend te worden.maar door wie?door onwetenden in colombia en thailand!? natuurlijk had ge niet verwacht dat een niet gediplomeerde de fakulteiten bezit om the horen en te ontdekken wat voor een gefoefel hier voor nodig geweest is.gij moet enorm gefrustreerd zijn..zielig..ge hebt mensen bewust willen misleiden..ge moest u schamen!
@radudeATL Well you cannot really blame him for that. I mean, many pianists are not blessed with hands the size of Horowitz or Rachmaninoff so they have to accommodate the best they can.
This piece requires the spontaneity, electricity, vigor, and power of youth, the control and experience of middle age, and none of the sweetness, manerisms, and intelect of venerable old age. In short, Cortot is out of his element here. Anyone would be in their later years.Give me Horowitz in the 40s, 50s, or 1960s over anything that comes later...The 70s were a total loss and the 80s were mainly good for sentimentality and giving proper respects for an inevitable end to a legend and an era.
I totaly disagree with your idea of scriabin' music, threebs1. What have you told suits very well with rachmaninoff music, where structures are different and language is much more virtusistic. In scriabin music a great variety of sound, intellect, sweetness and voicing are fondamental aspects to understand the real meaning. If Cortot had recorded more scriabin' music, he wuold have been one of the gratest scriabin' interpreters.
You are Correct....Except for the following elements. Rachmaninoff's music is much less Virtuosic than Scriabin's. Rachmaninoff is much more "Pianistic", Melodic, and "Sweet". Rachmaninoff's concertos and sonata are massive works, yes, for the heart and soul, but not necessarily for the fingers. Which of Scriabin's Sonatas are fundamentally "Sweet"? Although your opinion has a place...I disagree with it. Scriabin is a window into atonality and later into percussiveness.
I've played much of his oeuvre, most of the etudes, vers la flamme, the poems, and the third, fifth and tenth sonatas, and none approached the Rach 3 in difficulty.
"Not necessarily for the fingers"? It sounds like you're randomly making stuff up as you go along.
@demosj Rach.composed his music for pianists.Skrjabin used the piano to compose music for "the music"...and not for pianists per se..Sonata's nrs.6.7.8.9.and 10 are to me huge soundlandscapes and I believe that our notationsystem is not accurate enough for someone like Skrjabin to convey on paper what he hears inwardly.Therefore the complexity of his scores. From a pure physical point of view Rach.3,Prokofiev 2 and Bartok's concertos are the most difficult.But to play a Mozart concerto....!
I know Cortot supposedly has the best instincts but this is so different from Sofronitsky or Horowitz It is not surprising it does sound like Cortot.I cant say anymore. It aint the Russian school at all- People who talk about Busoni ( he really should have left us more1924!)and D'albert even DePachmannare just trumpeting hearsay. those records are a disservice say a lot about a different time .
I hope repeated listening teaches me something.Busoni chose alkan over Scr .
personally - the versions i love best of this etude - as well as much of scriabin's other pieces are those by Horowitz, Sofronitsky as the most musical and lyrical along with the power and brilliance...then there is Richter in his interpretations. i feel that Horowitz and Sofronitsky (of course the Composer's playing too) - best bring out the intricacies, nuances and that hard-to-capture with piano sound "aching" sort of expression in the phrasing. ...that always reminds of a singer's voice.
I'm not a huge fan of this recording. It sounds too heavy laden, so much weight holding it down. I enjoy it played with much more vivacity, a quickness that continuously propels it forward. In short, I prefer Horowitz.
i do realize that horowitz's interpretation is the champion but cortot's approach to this music is as usual, unique and not as 'rough and banging' like horowitz does..
i like this one better than horowitz.. but both were supremely done
well i respect your view. its nice to be able to disagree with someone on youtube without huge amounts of swearing. which is, to be honest what usually happenes. thanks :)
The guy of the violin is correct, piano rolls are very bad recordings, no matter how good is the pianists. I believe that if the performance had been live, and I would be in it, I would be shouting Bravo!
I personally think the great masters are: Alfred Brendel, Emil Gilels, Artur Rubinstein, Kempff, Sviatoslav Ritcher, and Vladimir Horowitz. Incomparable.
None of those can touch Cortot, Pachmann, Rachmaninov, Friedman, d'Albert, Hofmann, Rosenthal, Busoni, Lhevinne, Paderewski, Prokofiev, Scriabin, etc. Piano rolls usually misrepresent the artist and this one really is ugly compared to the many acoustic and electric recordings of Cortot. Please don't listen to this to compare him to anyone.
ElEsquis. The ones you mention are great, of course. There are so many others, many of who made recoirdings for a mass audience like Kempff, Arrau, Cziffra, Backhaus, Argerich and don't forget Barenboim. Kissin is the new kid on the block, and he is also continuing the great tradition.
I won't say that this is too slow - it suits Cortot's interpretation very well, but I feel Horowitz accomplishes the same musically, but without sacrificing speed.
I agree with Hansmeye111 said, Cortot gives time to the sound. This is perfectly valid, but Horowitz lets the harmonies unfold without needing to slow down.
What does "sacrificing speed" mean? Either it's good or it's not. If the tempo fits his interpretation and his interpretation is enjoyable, then that's that.
Quelle interprétation! Phrasé,dynamique,clarté de l'articulation des notes, et en prime une qualité audio excellente. Cortot était un génie, mais cela n'est pas nouveau!
The shames of Piano : - Lang Lang - Arguerich etc. etc. : - no spirit, machine like playing - just political communication behind them The recent real masters of piano : - Rachmaninov - Claudio ARAU - Vladimir Horowitz - Giorgi CZIFFRA - Alfred CORTOT - Arturo Michelangeli etc.
kempff is kinda, uh, hard to say, he is definately not one of the shames, but I wont want to put him in the same catagory as Cortot, horowitz or Rubinstein. Kempff's beethoven is as good as it can get amoung the pianist still alive. Solomon Cutner plays Beethoven much better, though. In fact, I would add Solomon to the Masters for sure, he is the Glenn Gould of Beethoven, in my view (or vice versa). and also, Walter Gieseking to the masters.
Ever since I got my complete Beethoven sonatas recording by Wilhelm Kempff I couldn't help compare his work with that of Mr. Barenboim. I feel that Kempff's Beethoven was a taste of honey and I consider his career as a 'late-bloomer' of sorts but brilliant none the less - his accounts always make me think or wonder (ex. his phrasing of certain melodic lines). He's definitley a MASTER.
You definitely forgot Sofrinitsky and Richter(my two favorite popular names). I agree that Martha Argerich shouldn't be rated so low. The woman did perfect Prokofiev's 3rd piano concerto, after all...
I think that Emil Gilels should be added to the masters.
Personally, I love Alfred Brendel's Beethoven, but haven't heard much else by him. I'm glad that somebody mentioned Sofronitsky, whom I only recently discovered.
I don't know what others think, but I LOVE Moiseiwitsch! Can't find much of him, though =(
Also, Heinrich Neuhaus! I was unaware that he had made recordings until discovering "truecrypt"'s cache. He's got a ton of underrepresented pianists uploaded!
I see what you are getting at. But may it be the fact that all the real masters are dead that you love them so much more than those we have today? I prefer them too, but it may be a psychological thing. However, I don't think it's fair to call Argerich nothing but a note playing machine. And I'm sure Lang Lang could be good also if he calmed down.
interesting to hear that cortot deviates from the score the same way as horowitz does (not everywhere). (more specifically: the melody in the calm middle part of the etude.) Some alterations seem to be taken from the second version of the etude (alternate version by scriabin himself)..
what a difference in sonority to other pianists. cortot makes it much more human and brings out all the beauty
uhartchristian 3 weeks ago
It feels like he's playing it in slow motion
eothel 1 month ago in playlist Scriabin Etude Op.8 No.12
when he plays it, it sounds like debussy. Bleck!
GeneralRenz 3 months ago
Fa paura
MrALCOTTS 5 months ago
Poor interpretation lacking the tragic approach and russian temper needed im the first place to be felt to actually understand and interpret such a prelude
MrAam1964 7 months ago
Uno fra i pochi nell'olimpo dei grandi interpreti della storia. Ciao Cortot
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Agreed, i see what you're saying.
djmonacella 1 year ago
this playing has a very unique sound to it i think, very deep.
ThePiano1984 1 year ago
I think it is safe to say that Cortot was an immense influence on Horowitz.
Many of the pieces that Cortot championed Horowitz also programmed in his concerts!
djmonacella 1 year ago
@djmonacella I think that they both played generally popular pieces for the sake of popularity rather than because Cartot played them.
SUPPLEANDFIRM 1 year ago
What a horrible performance.
chei1 1 year ago
@abmsghost
Walter Schuermans, ik verzoek U nogmaals en met klem definitief te STOPPEN mij, waar en hoe dan ook, aan te schrijven.
Bedroevend dat een pianist/landgenoot zich zó laat kennen, nl. als een geobsedeerde stalker.
Geert Dehoux, concertpianist.
geertdehoux 1 year ago
@geertdehoux GEERT DEHOUX..IK ZEG U HIERBIJ FORMEEL DAT IK VASTBESLOTEN BEN UW BEDRIEGERSMENTALITEIT IVM BEWUSTE PRIVE OPNAMEN ALGEMEEN BEKEND TE MAKEN. ZOALS GEZEGD MAAK IK MIJ PUBLIEK BEKEND EN IS ER VAN "STALKING" TOTAAL GEEN SPRAKE. A CORDIAL GREETING
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@geertdehoux BEDROEVEND DAT EEN PIANIST /LANDGENOOT ZICH BEZIGHOUD MET HET MANIPULEREN VAN OPNAMEN OM INDRUK TE MAKEN OP ONWETENDEN .U HEEFT BIJ U THUIS 5 PIANOS STAAN {HEBT GE ME ZELF VERTELD} WAAROM WAS HET DAN NODIG OM TIJDENS DIE PRIVE OPNAMEN EEN DIGITALE WERSI PIANO TE GEBRUIKEN.?..WANNEER GAAT GE NU EINDELIJK EENS "EERLIJK".TOEGEVEN DAT HET DE "MACHINE "WAS DIE ZO SPEELT EN NIET "GIJ"?? WAT EEN EGOTRIPPER....DA'S ALLES VRIEND. WALTER SCHUERMANS PIANIST
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
@geertdehoux Geobsedeerde stalker? neeneeneen jonge ..eerder het"openbaar ministerie"..verdediging blijft zwaar in gebreke zo te zien...
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1:37 i've honestly never heard the doubling of the melody in the left hand before.
fledgehog 1 year ago
@fledgehog i heard it too.. Strange...
openmindspace 1 year ago
Monumental version of this wellknown piece. Transcends its étude-character, just as in the Chopin études, for which he is more widely known. With Cortot one forgets that a work has already been played a thousand times, because he always brings something new. It was and is something no other pianist ever achieved and one of the reasons, that contempory, famous pianists attended his recitals to find new inspiration for themselves. A bit over-processed MP3 though (harshness in high frequencies)
donthuis 1 year ago
compare with Horowitz and you can understand that he was under influence of Cortot. He must have heard his recordings or even live. As he met Cortot in Paris and tried to learn from him. The power of sound Cortot had is similar to Horowitz. And the power of structure and conception too. Although Horowitz took a different way
uhartchristian 1 year ago
I just listened to "Scriabin plays Scriabin" (this piece). I consider his playing to be somewhere between Cortot and Kissin, but clearer than Kissin. Horowitz was interesting, but out of the ballpark emotionally. Cortot is still my favorite.
mach37 1 year ago
Well, I have just watched Horowitz, Kissin, and now listened to Cortot. Purely personal, mind you, but only in Cortot was I able to "hear the music." Maybe if I were in a more tortured mood I would choose the Horowitz... Whether Scrjabin himself intended more fire, the melody is too beautiful to not hear more clearly.
mach37 1 year ago
You never know what to expect from Cortot and then you find yourself being completely mesmerized each and every time. His interpretations are so unique and musically compelling. Having said that, if I had to show anyone this piece for their first time I wouldn't start here.
KeithWhalen11 1 year ago 2
nice but ... Scriabin vision and delirium are missing? someone would answer to me?
ilovescarlatti 1 year ago 2
bello... ma forse manca l'allucinazione e il delirio di Scriabin???? qualcuno vuole rispondermi?
ilovescarlatti 1 year ago
Very good!! He plays like Chopin, left hand on time, right hand rubato. I like it :) .
Thanks for posting.
Ala13ManOWar 1 year ago
after hearing horowitz, kissin and scriabin himself play this pice, i thought that it would probably be pretty "romantic", if played a bit slower. it is, but i prefer it played faster.
herisauer 1 year ago
Cortot brings out the Balladeque quality of this etude by giving it just a little more time to speak. a beautifully calibrated performance.
daniel15671 1 year ago 3
@daniel15671 When did this etude suddenly have a "Balladeque quality"? He drags the melodic lines tortuously out. It's like a dead thing. I can't bear the abuse of rubato in the entire middle section. He might have mastered it in Chopin, but that approach doesn't work with Scriabin.
demosj 1 year ago
@demosj I think it "suddenly" had a balladesque quality when Cortot played it, obviously. If you don't think it works in this performance, that's your prerogative. However, it's a commonplace to note that early Scriabin and Chopin are closely related stylistically. I happen to think, as do many others, that Cortot's playing of this work is dramatic and powerful.
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hey geert waarom zo geirriteerd man
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
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Ah, ok. Ik wist niet dat hij zo'n persoon was, ik zag namelijk alleen 1 berichtje van hem staan. Het verklaart een hoop. Ik zag via zijn channel dat meerdere mensen last van hem hebben, misschien een tip om deze persoon te rapporteren bij youtube over zijn gedrag.
vr. groet,
Tom
dahood22 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
@geertdehoux Welk wangedrag?
abmsghost 1 year ago
@geertdehoux Ik heb tot hiertoe nog altij geen bericht van youtube gekregen hoor..Marcel Mombeek en ik hebben ondertussen al een kleine correspondentie opgezet..Ik gellof niet dat hij het is die youtube ingelich zou hebben over mijn zogezegd"wangedrag"...luister vriend Youtube is geen kindertuin en iedereen heeft het recht om te zeggen wat er moet gezegd worden ..in uw geval is dat simpelweg het volgende: gij laat mensen geloven dat bewuste opnamen origineel zijn "private recordings.".
abmsghost 1 year ago
@geertdehoux Een internationaal bekende Jazzpianist,en zeer goede vriend,heeft beaamt dat de Chopin etude,Liszt nr.1 and Gottshalletwete ,gespeeld zijn op een digitale piano.Tijdens deze opname werdde opnamesnelheid {metronoom} zeer laag gezet.Zodoende kon jij deze stukken aan een trage snelheid opnemen{ bij gebrek aan het "echt" kunnen uiteraard}.Nadien smijt ge de snelheidsindicator open en zie..THE FENOMENALE PIANIST GEERT DEHOUX...YOU are the CHEATER and IMPOSTOR ..not me my friend..
abmsghost 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
@geertdehoux Many people like my screenname"abmsghost".You are just jealous isnt'it? I noticed that you have ,in different forums,on youtube arguments with many people..you declare them sometimes as "stupid" and "ignorant".Like "wayneredheart" for example.He really got you in a corner didn't he? haha..what did you do?you run away?Coward.
abmsghost 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
@geertdehoux I publicly admitted that I indeed have no degrees.Like your friend MM.So how dare you to say that I am a liar,cheater and impostor? Should people that have no degrees shut up for impostors like you..Degrees are not always a garantee for high level musicianship or skills as is clear when listening to your recordings.Your Chopin Polonaise is the biggest insult ever done to this beautifull piece.Tremendous noice and banging all over the piece.You are not capable of perceiving beauty.
abmsghost 1 year ago
@abmsghost
Heb onlangs een PRACHTIGE, geschreven aanbeveling gekregen van een wereldberoemd pianist, voornamelijk gebaseerd op die opname van die Polonaise.
Eigenaardig hoe een amateur dit afbreekt en een specialist in die materie mij prijst, niet ?
geertdehoux 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
@geertdehoux Geloof ik niks van!! Blabla
abmsghost 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
@geertdehoux Gij kunt de op.10 nr.1 etude van chopin in 4 sec uitleggen?...uw raad aan leerlingen wereldwijd is belachelijk en kompleet naast de kwestie..ONNOZELAAR...is da wagegeleerd hebt in de mezeekschool?hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa......
abmsghost 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
@geertdehoux het is algemeen geweten dat "wereldberoemde"concertpianisten NOOIT of zelden naar youtube kijken.maar ok..tzal volodos wel geweest zijn.. het was gewoon kritiek van de ene amateur naar de andere...zo'en lawaai jong..die engineer van MIFA vroeg mij achteraf waarom gij zo kwaad was op die piano..
abmsghost 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
@geertdehoux Eigenaardig?
abmsghost 11 months ago
@geertdehoux Het is HEEL opvallend dat ge dus NOOIT reageert op mijn opmerkingen mbt uw "prive opnamen".In plaats daarvan probeert ge mij onder de gordel te slaan met opmerkingen over mijn Solfege en wat weet ik allemaal. We could not help noticing that you NEVER react on my allegations with regards to your"private recordings".Instead you try to hit back by refering to my failure as a student of solfege etc. Very weak!! Your rebutals are completely irrelevant .and you know that!!
abmsghost 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
@dahood22 Meerdere mensen ?wie zijn dat dan?marcel mombeek?...ge kiest een kamp zonder de ander kant van de klok te horen luiden...bevooroordeeld misschien? wat bwedoelt ge precies met "ik wist niet dat hij zo'een persoon was"
abmsghost 1 year ago
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Dag Tom.
Ziet ge nu wat ik bedoel ?
Die gestoorde gast heeft mij - op een relatief korte tijdsspanne - zo'n tweehonderd van die vuile berichtjes gestuurd!
En dan verwijt hij mij dat ik die niet beantwoord! :-)
Groetje,
Geert.
geertdehoux 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
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Dag Tom,
Ondertussen zit hij nog steeds bezig mij te stalken, nu echter op mijn persoonlijk @, dat hij ergens (misschien op mijn website ?) gevonden heeft, want ik heb hem dit zeker niet gegeven!
Maar kijk eens wat een bedrieglijk manneke die Walter Schuermans is: eerst zet hij op het internet dat hij het 3e Pianoconcerto van Rachmaninov tijdens de finale van de Kon. Elisabethwedstrijd heeft uitgevoerd.
geertdehoux 1 year ago
@geertdehoux continued:Recently this imposter{Mr.Dehoux has launched viscious and non relevant attacks to a student of mine..a young and extremely gifted boy who has nothing to with me and Mr.Dehoux being at loggerheads.This only proves the cowardish nature of this creature.Please note that on not 1 occasion I have used or tried to influence other people in order to make a strong case against him.I have never requested third parties to take a stance for me..to be continued
abmsghost 1 year ago
@geertdehoux continued:Conclusion:Mr.Dehoux is an imposter until proven right w.r.t.above mentioned recordings.Given his comments on how to practice the Chopin etudes one can only smile with compassion.I am sure and convinced that not many aspiring pianists take his advice for granted.A big thanks to all the people,friends,students and professionals for their support in this quarrel.
abmsghost 1 year ago
@dahood22
Wanneer hij merkt dat ik deze leugen heb gevonden en hem daarop attent maak, doet hij zijn gewauw er snel af en beschuldigt mij vervolgens dat IK dit uit mijn duim gezogen heb!!
En zo een bedrieglijk iemand geeft pianoles aan jonge mensen...!!
Daarbij, als hij het lef heeft zulk een flagrante leugen op het internet te zetten, dan vraag ik mij af met welke leugens hij al dan niet zijn onwetenden in Bangkok opzadelt ??!!
Een welgemeende groet,
Geert.
geertdehoux 1 year ago
@geertdehoux hyaha
abmsghost 1 year ago
@geertdehoux Dear readers/friends. For your information:up to present day Mr.dehoux has failed to provide us with 1 single acceptable explanation as to how and why he has manipulated so called "private "recordings.Instead this self-proclaimed "concertpianist" has used every possible means to avoid answering the allegations.On a few occasions Mr.Dehoux even claimed that non-graduated people should refrain from commenting on a forum like Youtube.He has done this with a few others as well.
abmsghost 1 year ago
@geertdehoux Stalken?..stalkers spread misinformation and stay anonymous..I,however, speak openly on a public forum ans sign. My only goal is to take the veil of your fake recordings..that's all.Because you have deceived people,including me ..And that is something I will not tolerate. Luister makker..stalkers verspreiden valse informatie en blijven anoniem. Ik maak me bekend op een publiek forum dus uw wanhopige aantijging gaat niet op.U heeft mensen misleid,mij inbegrepen.Onaanvaardbaar,sorry
abmsghost 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
@geertdehoux U beschuldigt mij van een bedrieger en leugenaar te zijn.Verklaar u nader.
abmsghost 1 year ago
@geertdehoux Where and when did i say that I played at the Q.E C.?You make this up or what? How am I a liar{about what?},a cheater{in what?} and an impostor?You mean like you did IN YOUR "PRIVATE RECORDINGS"?..WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?Belgiums music elite knows you as"een blaaskaak en vies ventje"..what kind of a man are you to invite a woman to dinner and AFTERWARDS LET HER PAY FOR IT?...What a pathetic laughing stock you are..
abmsghost 1 year ago
@abmsghost
U vroeg waar ik mijn oordeel vandaan haalde. als ik 3 of meerdere negatieve comments lees gericht naar u, is de conclusie snel getrokken. Je zei zelf; Youtube is geen kindertuin. Als ik uw reacties lees waar je mensen op de persoon beledigt en aanvalt maakt dat mij vrij te geloven wat ik wil, mijns inziens kunt u beter uw aggressie/onmacht (die ik opmaak uit uw reacties) in de muziek stoppen, Daar zal heel wat mooiers uitkomen dan deze paginalange 'discussies'.
vriendelijke groet.
dahood22 1 year ago
@dahood22 Dag Tom. Bedankt voor je reply.3 of meerdere negative comments wegen niet op tegen de ontelbare positieve kommentaren van anderen ,,op youtube en via prive kanalen.Je hoeft je echt geen zorgen te maken of ik al dan niet mijn tijd in muziek steek.Het is namelijk een full-time bezigheid.Lesgeven aan getalenteerde mensen,komponeren en nu recentelijk ook opnamen...anyway ..thanks fot your concern..vriendelijke groeten walter schuermans pianist
abmsghost 1 year ago
@abmsghost Bedankt voor de opheldering, veel succes en plezier met de hobby!
dahood22 1 year ago
@dahood22 Hobby??!!Zo had ik het nog niet bekeken.Wat een leuke gedachte.
Oplichters ontmaskeren als hobby...al eens de ontelbare,pagina's lange overbodige en onnozele kommentaren van G.D. op tientallen forums alhier op youtube gelezen? van tijdverlies gesproken! en dan maar jammeren dat mensen zo "stupid and ignorant "zijn..laat ons maar zwijgen over de ontelbare negative comments ,door derden,die aan hem gericht zijn ..hij "delete"ze systematisch uiteraard. .hartegroet.W.S. pianist
abmsghost 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
@dahood22 Wanneer iemand "zonder"diploma's een positieve kommentaar geeft op G.D.word dit altijd op een "cordiale"manier verwelkomt en de bewuste criticus word dan overladen met waarderingen voor het "inzien" van het geniale werk G.D..Wanneer iemand "zonder' diplomas het waagt of de moed heeft zijn frauduleuze recordings te ontmaskeren word bewuste criticus inmiddelijk uitgescholden voor "gefaald pianist musicus"in allerhande vakken aan onze conservatoria.van discriminatie gesproken.what a joke!
abmsghost 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
@abmsghost
Zoelan kasne men sno geskan lache ne!
geertdehoux 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
@dahood22 Onmacht?Waaruit blijkt dat?Mensen beledigen?Ik?Wie en waar precies? Is het niet eerderGeert die anderen verwijt "stupid"te zijn omdat ze zijn mening niet delen?u heeft te weing of beter gezegd totaal geen' voorkennis" en zodoende maakt u verkeerde observaties en trekt de verkeerde conclusies vanwege uw vooringenomenheid ...spijtig...teleurstellend als het ware...maar toch..
vriendelijke groet..
abmsghost 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
@geertdehoux inderdaad en gij zijt 1 van de akteurs voor wie ik eigenli9jk "kompassie "voel...
abmsghost 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
@dahood22
Of daar werkelijks iets mooiers zal uitkomen, moeten we uiteraard nog - wellicht lang - afwachten!
:-)
Groet,
Geert.
geertdehoux 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
@geertdehoux Zeg! gij promoot graag Vlaamsche componisten he? Awel ik heb iets voor u.. ik heb 2 etudes geschreven voor piano..zijn onlangs in Japan door Japanse pianist gespeeld en met groot enthousiasme ontvangen! geen goesting om ze te spelen in Belgie misschienst.?..of moet ge daar eerst mensen op relevante ministeries voor kennen...?allez t'is maar een vraag he..ze zijn wel moeilijk he G.
walter schuermans pianist?composer zonder diploma's..hahahaaaaaaaa!!!!
abmsghost 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
@geertdehoux Your inspired"Jaxx Improvisation" is nothing more but proof of your incompetence and mediocrisy.Is this the result of what YOU learned in harmony and solfege classes.You must be fucking joking.You said"I cannot play Jazz at all:.Well,thats pretty clear isnt'it? YOU ARE THE CHEATER AND IMPOSTOR my friend.
abmsghost 1 year ago
@geertdehoux Ja.Waarom zo geirriteerd feitlijk? bewust opnamen zijn niet meer of minder dan een wanhoopspoging van uwentwege om tot het pantheon der groten gerekend te worden.maar door wie?door onwetenden in colombia en thailand!? natuurlijk had ge niet verwacht dat een niet gediplomeerde de fakulteiten bezit om the horen en te ontdekken wat voor een gefoefel hier voor nodig geweest is.gij moet enorm gefrustreerd zijn..zielig..ge hebt mensen bewust willen misleiden..ge moest u schamen!
abmsghost 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
merveilleux pianiste merci maman d avoir trouve cortot sur cette interprétation de scriabin
refaful 1 year ago
Magnificent rendition!
britcrit09 1 year ago
Cortot is always interesting with interpretation. Thank you for sharing this.
cattleman6420012000 2 years ago
he runs it straight into sentimentality
Bolinas1971 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
His hands are not big enough - he rolls a lot of the 10ths and the 11ths quite noticeably. Otherwise, it's just ok...
radudeATL 2 years ago
@radudeATL Well you cannot really blame him for that. I mean, many pianists are not blessed with hands the size of Horowitz or Rachmaninoff so they have to accommodate the best they can.
HeadCaptain 2 years ago
too heavy and labored
threebs1 2 years ago 2
Exactly.
advisorC101 2 years ago
This piece requires the spontaneity, electricity, vigor, and power of youth, the control and experience of middle age, and none of the sweetness, manerisms, and intelect of venerable old age. In short, Cortot is out of his element here. Anyone would be in their later years.Give me Horowitz in the 40s, 50s, or 1960s over anything that comes later...The 70s were a total loss and the 80s were mainly good for sentimentality and giving proper respects for an inevitable end to a legend and an era.
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I totaly disagree with your idea of scriabin' music, threebs1. What have you told suits very well with rachmaninoff music, where structures are different and language is much more virtusistic. In scriabin music a great variety of sound, intellect, sweetness and voicing are fondamental aspects to understand the real meaning. If Cortot had recorded more scriabin' music, he wuold have been one of the gratest scriabin' interpreters.
alelova93 2 years ago
You are Correct....Except for the following elements. Rachmaninoff's music is much less Virtuosic than Scriabin's. Rachmaninoff is much more "Pianistic", Melodic, and "Sweet". Rachmaninoff's concertos and sonata are massive works, yes, for the heart and soul, but not necessarily for the fingers. Which of Scriabin's Sonatas are fundamentally "Sweet"? Although your opinion has a place...I disagree with it. Scriabin is a window into atonality and later into percussiveness.
threebs1 2 years ago
I've played much of his oeuvre, most of the etudes, vers la flamme, the poems, and the third, fifth and tenth sonatas, and none approached the Rach 3 in difficulty.
"Not necessarily for the fingers"? It sounds like you're randomly making stuff up as you go along.
demosj 2 years ago
@demosj Rach.composed his music for pianists.Skrjabin used the piano to compose music for "the music"...and not for pianists per se..Sonata's nrs.6.7.8.9.and 10 are to me huge soundlandscapes and I believe that our notationsystem is not accurate enough for someone like Skrjabin to convey on paper what he hears inwardly.Therefore the complexity of his scores. From a pure physical point of view Rach.3,Prokofiev 2 and Bartok's concertos are the most difficult.But to play a Mozart concerto....!
abmsghost 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
I see Scriabin's early work as some of the sweetest music I've ever heard, take opus 2 no.1 for instance...
titusbeertsen 1 year ago
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A great Italian pianist once told me: "Music is useless, because you cannot eat it."
geertdehoux 1 year ago
if it's a piano roll, that would mean Cortot was not old..
acortot 2 years ago
Dinorah Varsi
juice797 2 years ago
I know Cortot supposedly has the best instincts but this is so different from Sofronitsky or Horowitz It is not surprising it does sound like Cortot.I cant say anymore. It aint the Russian school at all- People who talk about Busoni ( he really should have left us more1924!)and D'albert even DePachmannare just trumpeting hearsay. those records are a disservice say a lot about a different time .
I hope repeated listening teaches me something.Busoni chose alkan over Scr .
lovesGenet 2 years ago
What excellent dignity and weight!
klokheten 2 years ago
personally - the versions i love best of this etude - as well as much of scriabin's other pieces are those by Horowitz, Sofronitsky as the most musical and lyrical along with the power and brilliance...then there is Richter in his interpretations. i feel that Horowitz and Sofronitsky (of course the Composer's playing too) - best bring out the intricacies, nuances and that hard-to-capture with piano sound "aching" sort of expression in the phrasing. ...that always reminds of a singer's voice.
tedly10027 2 years ago 2
I'm not a huge fan of this recording. It sounds too heavy laden, so much weight holding it down. I enjoy it played with much more vivacity, a quickness that continuously propels it forward. In short, I prefer Horowitz.
bicsc7 2 years ago
i adore cortot's chopin, but i have to agree with you. Horowitz really is the master of this piece.
TheFinestLeather 2 years ago 3
to my taste, i respectfully disagree with you..
i do realize that horowitz's interpretation is the champion but cortot's approach to this music is as usual, unique and not as 'rough and banging' like horowitz does..
i like this one better than horowitz.. but both were supremely done
rvn10rvn17 2 years ago 9
well i respect your view. its nice to be able to disagree with someone on youtube without huge amounts of swearing. which is, to be honest what usually happenes. thanks :)
TheFinestLeather 2 years ago
The guy of the violin is correct, piano rolls are very bad recordings, no matter how good is the pianists. I believe that if the performance had been live, and I would be in it, I would be shouting Bravo!
ElEsquisProductions 2 years ago
uno stupendo controllo del suono!!
alelova93 2 years ago
C'est de loin la version que je préfère !! Quelle beauté !! c'est grand...
danyto75 2 years ago
Personellement je préfère la version de Scriabin lui même =/
COCOONFABULA 2 years ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
@geertdehoux Gij zijt dus ECHT een onnozel manneke...geen twijfel aan..een hopeloos miserabel pedant ventje ..en zo ne lelijkaard daddegijzijt ..joenge toch..
abmsghost 1 year ago
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
I personally think the great masters are: Alfred Brendel, Emil Gilels, Artur Rubinstein, Kempff, Sviatoslav Ritcher, and Vladimir Horowitz. Incomparable.
ElEsquisProductions 2 years ago
all masters that are the most popular and the most publicized
bobdylan1369 2 years ago
they are publicized for a reason though...
TheKirbyraeg 2 years ago
None of those can touch Cortot, Pachmann, Rachmaninov, Friedman, d'Albert, Hofmann, Rosenthal, Busoni, Lhevinne, Paderewski, Prokofiev, Scriabin, etc. Piano rolls usually misrepresent the artist and this one really is ugly compared to the many acoustic and electric recordings of Cortot. Please don't listen to this to compare him to anyone.
2ndviolinist 2 years ago
Listen to this guy! There is an acoustic recording of this piece by Cortot. Use that to compare.
xujia1001 2 years ago
ElEsquis. The ones you mention are great, of course. There are so many others, many of who made recoirdings for a mass audience like Kempff, Arrau, Cziffra, Backhaus, Argerich and don't forget Barenboim. Kissin is the new kid on the block, and he is also continuing the great tradition.
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
C'est Magnifique!!
zanteson 2 years ago
the best performance i ever heard!
rachmaninovisback 2 years ago
So different!
vincecharus 2 years ago
Supreme musicianship. A golden standard performance.
stephenjoeagi 3 years ago 3
I won't say that this is too slow - it suits Cortot's interpretation very well, but I feel Horowitz accomplishes the same musically, but without sacrificing speed.
I agree with Hansmeye111 said, Cortot gives time to the sound. This is perfectly valid, but Horowitz lets the harmonies unfold without needing to slow down.
demosj 3 years ago
What does "sacrificing speed" mean? Either it's good or it's not. If the tempo fits his interpretation and his interpretation is enjoyable, then that's that.
superstition222 3 years ago
Quelle interprétation! Phrasé,dynamique,clarté de l'articulation des notes, et en prime une qualité audio excellente. Cortot était un génie, mais cela n'est pas nouveau!
gtredz 3 years ago 2
alekrussote 3 years ago 4
add to shames: kissin. add to master: Glenn Gould, Arthur Rubinstein, Simon Barere.
jimmyjamesWang 3 years ago 4
and to the masters wilhelm kempff also.
bandong1234567890 3 years ago
kempff is kinda, uh, hard to say, he is definately not one of the shames, but I wont want to put him in the same catagory as Cortot, horowitz or Rubinstein. Kempff's beethoven is as good as it can get amoung the pianist still alive. Solomon Cutner plays Beethoven much better, though. In fact, I would add Solomon to the Masters for sure, he is the Glenn Gould of Beethoven, in my view (or vice versa). and also, Walter Gieseking to the masters.
jimmyjamesWang 3 years ago
Ever since I got my complete Beethoven sonatas recording by Wilhelm Kempff I couldn't help compare his work with that of Mr. Barenboim. I feel that Kempff's Beethoven was a taste of honey and I consider his career as a 'late-bloomer' of sorts but brilliant none the less - his accounts always make me think or wonder (ex. his phrasing of certain melodic lines). He's definitley a MASTER.
op11no3 3 years ago
you are absolutely right but you forgot to add kissin in the shames of piano and rubinstein in the masters of piano
bandong1234567890 3 years ago 2
martha argerich should not be in the shames of piano
bandong1234567890 3 years ago
What about Andre watts?
ChrisWatch 3 years ago
You definitely forgot Sofrinitsky and Richter(my two favorite popular names). I agree that Martha Argerich shouldn't be rated so low. The woman did perfect Prokofiev's 3rd piano concerto, after all...
Lukecash12 2 years ago
Et Johnny Halliday,vous le classez où?
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
how is rachmaninov recent? he was born in the 1800s...
ljoekelsoey4 3 years ago
he is recent since his among the composers of the 20th century and we are just in the starts of the 21st
alexilmagnifico 2 years ago
I find Argerich good for modern piece but In general I agree.
raxkar 3 years ago
I think that Emil Gilels should be added to the masters.
Personally, I love Alfred Brendel's Beethoven, but haven't heard much else by him. I'm glad that somebody mentioned Sofronitsky, whom I only recently discovered.
I don't know what others think, but I LOVE Moiseiwitsch! Can't find much of him, though =(
Also, Heinrich Neuhaus! I was unaware that he had made recordings until discovering "truecrypt"'s cache. He's got a ton of underrepresented pianists uploaded!
wol4fram 2 years ago
I see what you are getting at. But may it be the fact that all the real masters are dead that you love them so much more than those we have today? I prefer them too, but it may be a psychological thing. However, I don't think it's fair to call Argerich nothing but a note playing machine. And I'm sure Lang Lang could be good also if he calmed down.
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geertdehoux 1 year ago
interesting to hear that cortot deviates from the score the same way as horowitz does (not everywhere). (more specifically: the melody in the calm middle part of the etude.) Some alterations seem to be taken from the second version of the etude (alternate version by scriabin himself)..
josvanr 3 years ago 2
maybe better than Horowitz???? the base damn...
abikamel 3 years ago
Very subjective, I like both
wilsonnkwan 3 years ago 5
nice pic
SiouxPianist 3 years ago
wow...
pjioayncoe 3 years ago