Great contest...lee is breathing fire and brimstone...just wished the tracks now would accentuate contest between bat and ball..make the track seam and bounce or even turn and spin, but PLEASE DONT MAKE IT A RED CARPET
the contest like this just makes you forget about each and everything else, the technology, the speedometer and that i m getting late for the office. Man, throughout this over i ve not noticed the speeds even once. That doesn't happen often
@mittar21 It was pretty cool to watch live! Unexpected actually, to see Lee just roughing up Ntini and Hayward, Hayward was a pussy, we hammered him after that, he posed no threat in this test, but in the 2nd test he roughed up Steve Waugh a bit, but we thrashed them anyway. Fast bowling is awesome.
@mittar21 Agree! Better than watching flat track bully batsmen make easy hundreds time and time again on roads. Give me a seaming pitch and a great fast bowler- THAT is cricket. You want to see a cricket MATCH, not a situation where the batsmen have it too easy and get 3/700.
@robelinda2 u r right, but sometimes that is the situation when best captains works out some great strategies and great fast bowlers needs just a little help and they can run thru the whole team, i have seen some matches when on 1st day, it seems pitch has nothing for bowlers and it'd be a dull draw, but still good captaincy and great bowlers can produce result outta that as well
@robelinda2 I dunno if i agree i mean with bowling you can make mistakes and be ok, but as a batsman you make 1 mistake and you're gone for the innings. Depends how you look at it i guess i mean there is no such thing as an easy 100, but i agree with you fast bowling is epic to watch :D
Have you got the one against England when Lee hist Alex Tudor through the grill and cuts him open? Tudor rolling on the deck in pain, blood on the pitch - love it!
@noffty1209 If ya cant stand the heat.....it aint kindergarten cricket. Nantie was dishing it to the Aussies when he bowled, both with ball and mouth, he was expecting some bouncers when he batted and so he should. He didnt have the stomach for the battle and the Aussies mentally ended his career. If you talk a bog game you better be able to back it up, and he couldnt. Smashed him in the next test too.
@robelinda2 Lee wasn't just going after Hayward was he? Hayward was an 'excitable' individual (I had the opportunity to umpire with him once) it's true. However the fact that he 'dished it out' doesn't excuse retaliation, especially considering his limited ability as a batsmen. If this style of cricket is what you like then I suggest you read the Spirit of Cricket preamble to the Laws of the Game. Puffed-up macho posturing by characters such as Lee and Hayward have no place in the game.
@noffty1209, Binga is one of the politest and nicest fast bowlers there has ever been. Intimidation is a PART of fast bowling, a way to get wickets, which is the aim of bowling the ball. Brett Lee has never aimed to maim or injure batsmen. - Only ever to get them out.
To accuse Lee of playing against the spirit of the game is absolutely absurd. He has always played the game in the right spirit, so basically.............. You're WRONG. So cry more.
@CoolStoryBrosauce Has he ALWAYS played the game in the correct spirit? You know this for CERTAIN? He didn't here which is why he was spoken to. Are you blind as well as stupid?
@noffty1209, hurr durr. Being "spoken to" means you didn't play in the right spirit? Well I guess nobody has ever played this game in the right spirit.
The fact is that bouncing tail enders is often a good way of getting them out, it's rather basic fast bowling tactics that you'd probably already know about if you had a brain. Push the batsman back in the crease and then pitch the next one up. Brett Lee has never aimed to injure batsmen, only to dismiss them.
@CoolStoryBrosauce Don't be shackled by your national bias.Prove your last statement.............Brett Lee has never aimed to injure batsmen, only to dismiss them. Prove it.
@noffty1209 I think you're the one shackled by national bias..... look at it this way, innocent until proven guilty. The onus isn't on me to prove that he didn't aim to injure, because then I would have to show you ever ball he's ever bowled in his career.
How about you give an example of him aiming to injure a batsman?? You won't be able to find one.
Shoaib Akhtar aimed to injure on several occasions with deliberate beamers and whatnot, Brett Lee never did. Now piss off and stop whining.
@CoolStoryBrosauce Listen here matey, what say you and I stop this unseemly slagging off of one another? If I've had a go at you and you were offended then I'll aplogise. It's obvious you love this game and so do I. What's say we call it quits? I'm sorry if I've said some unkind things-probably my fault I got you riled up in the first place.
@noffty1209, lol well the way India are bowling against WI it doesn't look like they want to face us in the QF's. The poms aren't out of the tournament though...
Not sure how much chance I give Aus, I guess it will depend on how much the pitches are doctored in favour of the home sides. If we play many games on pitches like the one against Pak, I don't think we've got much chance.
TBH all the teams look good one day then rubbish the next. Impossible to pick who will win.
@CoolStoryBrosauce My 'lot' are Ireland and are due home soon-probably for the best as some of them were looking seriously sunburnt. Got to go now matey-glad we're ok, catch up with you soon. Slan ga foil
I miss all the fast bowlers though, now there's no-one that bowls express pace, other than Shaun Tait but he's usually injured. Akhtar's retiring, Lee's bowling well but not as fast as before, and Bond's gone. The only quality bowler left it pretty much just Dale Steyn, but he's not EXPRESS
@gdawgfernandez Well it wasnt new, from memory our bowlers were always reluctant to bounce the tail in other teams throughout the 80's, even though the WI were decimating our tail with hostile stuff ( Lawson 1988 broken jaw, McDermott 1991 cut right eye). It took Glenn McGrath to finally have the guts to bounce and attempt to intimidate the WI tail in 1995 for the payback to begin, and boy did the WI not like it!!! PAYBACK!
Yeah, Aussie cricket exemplified in all its really glorious recent pomp: win at all cost, fuck the sport and screw everyone and everything else.
Braindead cricket, sure. And braindead' values'. Thank god this crew has mostly all fucked off into retirement now. The end of a very shitty era of Aussie dominance that I'm pretty sure the true Aussie greats, the Keith Millers and Don Bradmans of this world, would rightly disown in a heartbeat.
@ludocrat agree, its not good and shouldnt be allowed, but the Wi started it and got away with it. Just look at that 1980 vids I posted, how on earth were those guys not banned or at least suspended???? 'Sir' Clive Lloyd, what a disgrace.
But the Aussies I've played with over the years (and there have been a fair few - some pretty famous) were always into the game rather than the gamesmanship.So the Adam Gilchrist (rather than the Ponting) school of cricket eitquette I'm certain will prevail. Gilchrist's the real example for the kids, not the others.
Also, I don't recall (Sir - should be!) Dennis Lillee ever bouncing the helpless. He probably did, but I don't recall ever hearing about it.
@ludocrat Well in Lillee's time there was the unwritten 'tailenders code' which most teams abided by- fast bowlers just didnt bounce the tail unless they were really hanging in there, and guys who couldnt bat just got bowled quickly instead of being forced to face a barrage. It went out the door by the late 80's.
Yup, you're spot on. Jon Snow was the last of that fast bowler breed in this country. There was a lot of (very private) respect between Snow and Lillee - and neither of them would ever break the code you mention. Snow quit early because of the new, totally ruthless cricket that the Windies created in England in in '76. An interesting and educated man, Snow just left. Lillee, by contrast, loved the new challenge. But he never crossed the line in my humble opinion.
Brett Lee was a tough cunt bowling to tail enders. I enjoyed watching Lee get bounced in return though.
Tehui1974 2 weeks ago
It's sad that Brett Lee couldn't get him out in that over....I mean you only had to hit the stumps mate!!
parmz09 1 month ago
Great contest...lee is breathing fire and brimstone...just wished the tracks now would accentuate contest between bat and ball..make the track seam and bounce or even turn and spin, but PLEASE DONT MAKE IT A RED CARPET
MultiGoliath007 1 month ago
could u upload martyn's wicket
simplythebest12341 3 months ago
'The intent here was to hurt him'....haha of course it was. Binga's a legend.
Catatofish 3 months ago
1:21 looks like hes trying to head the ball.
bongo155 5 months ago
ntini is playing soccer lol
ishwor100 5 months ago
typical bloody brett lee
bounce the bunnies and get tonked about by the real batsmen
tjb2693 5 months ago
you don't have enough time to get underneath bouncers at that pace.
NathanCoalbine 6 months ago
Hey, can you please put up some videos of nantie bowling :)
hislopenator 7 months ago
the contest like this just makes you forget about each and everything else, the technology, the speedometer and that i m getting late for the office. Man, throughout this over i ve not noticed the speeds even once. That doesn't happen often
mittar21 7 months ago
o man! what it'd have been like watching it live
mittar21 7 months ago
@mittar21 It was pretty cool to watch live! Unexpected actually, to see Lee just roughing up Ntini and Hayward, Hayward was a pussy, we hammered him after that, he posed no threat in this test, but in the 2nd test he roughed up Steve Waugh a bit, but we thrashed them anyway. Fast bowling is awesome.
robelinda2 7 months ago
@robelinda2 fast bowling is definitely the best thing in world :)
mittar21 7 months ago
@mittar21 Agree! Better than watching flat track bully batsmen make easy hundreds time and time again on roads. Give me a seaming pitch and a great fast bowler- THAT is cricket. You want to see a cricket MATCH, not a situation where the batsmen have it too easy and get 3/700.
robelinda2 7 months ago
@robelinda2 u r right, but sometimes that is the situation when best captains works out some great strategies and great fast bowlers needs just a little help and they can run thru the whole team, i have seen some matches when on 1st day, it seems pitch has nothing for bowlers and it'd be a dull draw, but still good captaincy and great bowlers can produce result outta that as well
mittar21 7 months ago
@robelinda2 r u on facebook??
mittar21 7 months ago
@mittar21 i am, but i never use it, facebook sucks.
robelinda2 7 months ago
@robelinda2 I dunno if i agree i mean with bowling you can make mistakes and be ok, but as a batsman you make 1 mistake and you're gone for the innings. Depends how you look at it i guess i mean there is no such thing as an easy 100, but i agree with you fast bowling is epic to watch :D
yEr0c1995 2 months ago
@robelinda2 Hey Can You Tell Me What Your Nationality???
KaptaanCricket 5 months ago
By The Way Ntini Too Is FAST!!!But Brett Lee All the Way
KaptaanCricket 5 months ago
this is really firing stuff.........thanx bro 4 the upload, i have never seen this vid before, but it has really switched me on
mittar21 7 months ago
Why does Makaya Ntini Looks like " Oprah " to me ?
The123oz999 7 months ago
hahaha warne in the background at 2:04: "show some ticker" lol
bferguson67 8 months ago
"Boucher gave him some fearful humpty" - oh Greigy, what are we going to do when it's just Heals, Tubby and Slats pulling the levers?
copyalater 8 months ago
Have you got the one against England when Lee hist Alex Tudor through the grill and cuts him open? Tudor rolling on the deck in pain, blood on the pitch - love it!
Catatofish 10 months ago
@Catatofish its already on youtube
robelinda2 10 months ago
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Catatofish 10 months ago
Gotta say he's accurate - two in two. LMAO!!!!
aaqucnaona94 11 months ago
Brett Lee Action - watch?v=SyqmbyArlQo
aaqucnaona94 11 months ago
that was awesome go lee
MrJCVD87 11 months ago
There was some good carry of Ntini's helmet.
Mladenovski28 11 months ago
Nantie Haywood = biggest sparedick ever to grace a cricket field!!!
border205 11 months ago
Do you remember who Martyn got out, I went to that day's play and remember Lee roughing up Nantie.
border205 11 months ago
Now Australia didn't lose a Test match series between '01-'05.
Crkt4Eva 11 months ago
What an utterly cowardly piece of 'bowling'
noffty1209 11 months ago
@noffty1209 If ya cant stand the heat.....it aint kindergarten cricket. Nantie was dishing it to the Aussies when he bowled, both with ball and mouth, he was expecting some bouncers when he batted and so he should. He didnt have the stomach for the battle and the Aussies mentally ended his career. If you talk a bog game you better be able to back it up, and he couldnt. Smashed him in the next test too.
robelinda2 11 months ago 11
@robelinda2 Lee wasn't just going after Hayward was he? Hayward was an 'excitable' individual (I had the opportunity to umpire with him once) it's true. However the fact that he 'dished it out' doesn't excuse retaliation, especially considering his limited ability as a batsmen. If this style of cricket is what you like then I suggest you read the Spirit of Cricket preamble to the Laws of the Game. Puffed-up macho posturing by characters such as Lee and Hayward have no place in the game.
noffty1209 11 months ago
@noffty1209, Binga is one of the politest and nicest fast bowlers there has ever been. Intimidation is a PART of fast bowling, a way to get wickets, which is the aim of bowling the ball. Brett Lee has never aimed to maim or injure batsmen. - Only ever to get them out.
To accuse Lee of playing against the spirit of the game is absolutely absurd. He has always played the game in the right spirit, so basically.............. You're WRONG. So cry more.
CoolStoryBrosauce 11 months ago
@CoolStoryBrosauce Has he ALWAYS played the game in the correct spirit? You know this for CERTAIN? He didn't here which is why he was spoken to. Are you blind as well as stupid?
noffty1209 11 months ago
@noffty1209, hurr durr. Being "spoken to" means you didn't play in the right spirit? Well I guess nobody has ever played this game in the right spirit.
The fact is that bouncing tail enders is often a good way of getting them out, it's rather basic fast bowling tactics that you'd probably already know about if you had a brain. Push the batsman back in the crease and then pitch the next one up. Brett Lee has never aimed to injure batsmen, only to dismiss them.
CoolStoryBrosauce 11 months ago
@CoolStoryBrosauce Don't be shackled by your national bias.Prove your last statement.............Brett Lee has never aimed to injure batsmen, only to dismiss them. Prove it.
noffty1209 11 months ago
@noffty1209 I think you're the one shackled by national bias..... look at it this way, innocent until proven guilty. The onus isn't on me to prove that he didn't aim to injure, because then I would have to show you ever ball he's ever bowled in his career.
How about you give an example of him aiming to injure a batsman?? You won't be able to find one.
Shoaib Akhtar aimed to injure on several occasions with deliberate beamers and whatnot, Brett Lee never did. Now piss off and stop whining.
CoolStoryBrosauce 11 months ago
@CoolStoryBrosauce Listen here matey, what say you and I stop this unseemly slagging off of one another? If I've had a go at you and you were offended then I'll aplogise. It's obvious you love this game and so do I. What's say we call it quits? I'm sorry if I've said some unkind things-probably my fault I got you riled up in the first place.
noffty1209 11 months ago
@noffty1209. Sure then. No problem.
CoolStoryBrosauce 11 months ago
@CoolStoryBrosauce Good man yourself-now then, how to stop the Indians winning the World Cup eh? My lot are out, what chance do you give your boys?
noffty1209 11 months ago
@noffty1209, lol well the way India are bowling against WI it doesn't look like they want to face us in the QF's. The poms aren't out of the tournament though...
Not sure how much chance I give Aus, I guess it will depend on how much the pitches are doctored in favour of the home sides. If we play many games on pitches like the one against Pak, I don't think we've got much chance.
TBH all the teams look good one day then rubbish the next. Impossible to pick who will win.
CoolStoryBrosauce 11 months ago
@CoolStoryBrosauce My 'lot' are Ireland and are due home soon-probably for the best as some of them were looking seriously sunburnt. Got to go now matey-glad we're ok, catch up with you soon. Slan ga foil
noffty1209 11 months ago
Makhaya took it well. He seems pretty nonplussed, probably thinking how many he was going to give Binga back.
Brendanvio 11 months ago
@Brendanvio Ntini didnt get the chance, he got hammered when he bowled and was dropped for the rest of the series!
robelinda2 11 months ago 2
thank god for helmets.
TopGearDog431 11 months ago
WTF?!?! He didn't get him out after all of that? Pointless stuff from Lee here.
madaboutsleep 11 months ago
bloddy tony greig is a bit of a prick. i dunno why ch9 continue to employ him. he needs to figure out whether his english, southafrican or srilankan.
nottellingu0 11 months ago
@nottellingu0 Because Grieg and Chappell supported Packer and helped him promote WSC he made it so channel 9 could never sack them.
TopGearDog431 11 months ago
Bodyline stuff here, was this before the law about the number of bouncers per over was brought in? Or is that only for ODIs?
Gillysbiggestfan 11 months ago
@Gillysbiggestfan ODI's. But tests had a limit of 2 over head high, those few to Ntini were borderline, he was ducking into them.
robelinda2 11 months ago
I miss all the fast bowlers though, now there's no-one that bowls express pace, other than Shaun Tait but he's usually injured. Akhtar's retiring, Lee's bowling well but not as fast as before, and Bond's gone. The only quality bowler left it pretty much just Dale Steyn, but he's not EXPRESS
gdawgfernandez 11 months ago
It was risky for them to do this, as this meant that when they were batting, they would receive the same treatment!
gdawgfernandez 11 months ago
@gdawgfernandez Well it wasnt new, from memory our bowlers were always reluctant to bounce the tail in other teams throughout the 80's, even though the WI were decimating our tail with hostile stuff ( Lawson 1988 broken jaw, McDermott 1991 cut right eye). It took Glenn McGrath to finally have the guts to bounce and attempt to intimidate the WI tail in 1995 for the payback to begin, and boy did the WI not like it!!! PAYBACK!
robelinda2 11 months ago
Yeah, Aussie cricket exemplified in all its really glorious recent pomp: win at all cost, fuck the sport and screw everyone and everything else.
Braindead cricket, sure. And braindead' values'. Thank god this crew has mostly all fucked off into retirement now. The end of a very shitty era of Aussie dominance that I'm pretty sure the true Aussie greats, the Keith Millers and Don Bradmans of this world, would rightly disown in a heartbeat.
ludocrat 11 months ago
@ludocrat They learnt from the WI from the 80's, who dished out this stuff every day to tailenders.
robelinda2 11 months ago
@robelinda2
I agree. I think I said that on one of your other (great!) vids. Doesn't make it any less shabby, though, does it? It's just sad.
ludocrat 11 months ago
@ludocrat agree, its not good and shouldnt be allowed, but the Wi started it and got away with it. Just look at that 1980 vids I posted, how on earth were those guys not banned or at least suspended???? 'Sir' Clive Lloyd, what a disgrace.
robelinda2 11 months ago
@robelinda2
Well, of course I agree.
But the Aussies I've played with over the years (and there have been a fair few - some pretty famous) were always into the game rather than the gamesmanship.So the Adam Gilchrist (rather than the Ponting) school of cricket eitquette I'm certain will prevail. Gilchrist's the real example for the kids, not the others.
Also, I don't recall (Sir - should be!) Dennis Lillee ever bouncing the helpless. He probably did, but I don't recall ever hearing about it.
ludocrat 11 months ago
@ludocrat Well in Lillee's time there was the unwritten 'tailenders code' which most teams abided by- fast bowlers just didnt bounce the tail unless they were really hanging in there, and guys who couldnt bat just got bowled quickly instead of being forced to face a barrage. It went out the door by the late 80's.
robelinda2 11 months ago
@robelinda2
Yup, you're spot on. Jon Snow was the last of that fast bowler breed in this country. There was a lot of (very private) respect between Snow and Lillee - and neither of them would ever break the code you mention. Snow quit early because of the new, totally ruthless cricket that the Windies created in England in in '76. An interesting and educated man, Snow just left. Lillee, by contrast, loved the new challenge. But he never crossed the line in my humble opinion.
He didn't need to!
ludocrat 11 months ago
@ludocrat Obviously no respect between Snow and Terry Jenner (7th test 1971 SCG!)
robelinda2 11 months ago
This is what it's all about fast pacy hostile
bowling.i hate batting its boring to watch a batsman
bat, but a bowling it's always a pleasure to watch.
TomAraya23 11 months ago