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  • man you just shut up :) all they said here can be found in any library...

    

  • I really like to read and hear about the history with facts... If this part 1 begins from 6th century... where were them before?

    and to my opinion this is not a very convincing history story. I didn't hear for example even one "according to". The authors i suppose didn't live in that era, am i wrong?... So what are the fonts the authors are mentioning their words? Didn't they find at least a notable historian to talk abou?

  • Dacii ili Dačani su živeli sa one strane Dunava,na teritoriji današnje Rumunije,tačnije sa druge strane Karpata,ne sa ove strane kako je pokazano u klipu.

    Sa ove strane Dunava,tačnije na teritoriji današnje Istočne Srbije (Timočka Krajina) živelo je pleme Tribali, a ta teritorija se u to vreme zvala Moezija.

  • ".......Between the 10th and 14th centuries new political formations emerged in the Carpathian-Danube region. The Hungarians, who had settled in Pannonia at the end of the 9th century and who entered Dacia in the 10th century, overwhelmed the Slavic-Romanian duchies, or voivodates, that they encountered there."

    Britannica Encyclopedia

    Source: britannica(.)com/EBchecked/top­ic/508461/Romania/42864/Romani­ans-and-Hungarians

    Grow up and stop being an envious bitch

  • @gogoasacenusie : you can discover your history only from the encyclopedia which was written in the 18 th century. Facts remains facts, the real dacia were at the end of the south carpatia. Still no proof who were the dacs, if they were great, proud fighters they could never adopt the enemy`s language in 150 years.A bounch of tribes adopted the the demi language of roman in the remain of the east roman empire, later they came into Erdély runing away from turk invasion.

  • @derekutca , you know why i enjoy so much youtube? Because it's full of trolls like yourself very confident they have mastered history and giving their "expert" opinions on youtube. Of course, with 0 support and 100% trolling. It's not even about being Hungarian here, it's about being a stupid troll. We both know that Romanians are natives in Transylvania for a very simple fact. Your own oldest Hungarian chronicle tells it. You basically fight against yourself and confirm that you're a troll.

  • Nemojte se uvrediti, ali zaista Vam je los izgovor engleskog, trebalo bi staviti titlove jer je tesko za razumeti:(

  • I am proud Serb

  • FAKE HISTORY THAT COMMUNISTS WROTE

  • @SERBMAN100 How is it fake?

  • God bless serbia and its heart KOSMET.

  • Huns were Slavs. Their names are best evidence. Atila was duke of Kijevo, city in Ukraine. Bulgars is a tribe from north east side of black sea. They came at about 10th century, and mixed with Serbs(Slavs). That is why today they have no real Bulgarian language, they are using Serbian, which is on Balcan fore 7519 years

  • @velikistrumfjr

    Bulgars came in the 10. century???LOL. What drugs do you take? The Bulgarian state is only about six centuries older than your first independent serbian state. And how the fuck do we use the "serbian" language whatever serbian language might mean, when we created the cyrillic alphabet that u use, serbian peasants. Do not twist historical facts.

  • @gringoroko You invented Cyrillic alphabet? I bet Cyrill rolls in his grave now.

  • @VpVanja

    Cyrill!! You can't even spell the name of Cyril, peasant. And if you had some elementary education u would know that Cyril has nothing to do with the Crillic alpahebet. He created the Glagolitic alphabet. His disciples created the Cyrillic at the Preslav Literary school in the first Bulgarian Tsardom. I guess Wikipedia, Encyclopedia Britanica and basically every book on History is conspiring against you???LOL!

  • @gringoroko Please don't insult my intelligence you nationalistic complex filled poor little man, I really don't know where did you learn that mind twisting construction of yours, but I for sure know what Cyrillic alphabet is, and Cyril was in one way or another the father of Cyrillic alphabet, yes his disciples did it. When you say Bulgarian Tsardom I feel the complexes kicking in. First Bulgarian Tsardom was indeed a great one (large) indeed, but Cyrillic was not created by Bulgarians.

  • @VpVanja

    Nope, Cyrillic was created in Bulgaria by Bulgarians. But even if it was not created by Bulgarians it doesn't matter since it was Tsar Boris I who wanted a simplified version of the Glagolitic and ordered the disciples of Cyril to do this. So Cyrillic is Bulgarian legacy. Anyway, have a nice day.

  • @gringoroko It was Greeks, and Cyrillic alphabet is based on Greek alphabet. Well You can go now and insult someone else you poor little nationalistic prick.

  • @VpVanja

    Well first u have to stop calling us fake slavs, mongols and all the bullshit u serbs fabricate against us. If we are not slavs, then neither are the russians for instance neither are you. Russ aren't slavs, they were variangians i.e. vikings and serbs and croates were probably also not slavic in origin, only to be slavicized in the course of time.

  • @gringoroko Well I read so, that's why I said it. I also believe that that theory is a valid one and in a certain degree accepted among historians. I think that I read that about half are real Slavs and half are not. Can yo talk normally now, without using offensive words, so we can talk normally. So according to your sources, what is the origin of Bulgarian people, and what is their relation to Slavs and Mongols that you mentioned. I think I watched a Bulgarian movie where Bulgarians called..>

  • @VpVanja

    There is no relation between bulgars and mongols and bulgars never used the title khan. The title they used was Kanasubigi but since no-one knows what it means and it resembles Khan many historians took it as khan.

    What is this thing about half being slavs and the other half not being mongols??? Genetics tests show zero relation to the turkic people. Infact the most Asiatic people in Europe turn out to be ukrainians, romanians and what a surprise russians. Google DNA tests.

  • @gringoroko When you say they turn out to be Ukrainians, Russians or Romanians, you actually want to say that all those peoples are related, that would be more accurate. I don't know whats is the deal with that theory that I mentioned, but I heard it from a Bulgarian and didn't research it further. Anyway, I was just now researching, and wikipedia is confusing to say the least. It lists Bulgarians as Slavs, then on some maps you have stuff like "Bulgari-Huni" the on "Bulgarians sections"....>

  • and they are closely related to other eastern European peoples. Surprisingly if you google you will find that the Chouvash people, who speak turkic language and and who are descendants of the Bulgars and live in Russia nowadays, have no genetic relation to turkic people and have 100% eastern European genetic lineage. Some historian use this as an argument that bulgars were indeed of sarmatian origin and were only linguistically influenced by the surrounding turkic people in the steppes.

  • @gringoroko It says that Bulgarians adopted Slavic Language, and somehow infers that original Bulgarians were not Slavs, but they got mixed with Slavic tribes. The genetics are very similar or same to other neighbouring south Slavs, it is a mess.

  • @VpVanja

    Well the Bulgars were not slavs, I think we can say this with certainty. They were either of proto turkic origin or of scytho-sarmatian origin. There are pro and against for both theories. Most probably the Bulgars were heterogeneous incorporating different tribes. However, the modern day Bulgarians are the product of three groups of people: Bulgars, Slavs and Thracians. On genetic level it turns out that modern bulgarians have no relation with turkic people.

  • @gringoroko Called their leader Khan and mentioned Mongol gods for sake of blessing. Do you know this move?

  • @gringoroko And yea, Bulgarians are not Slavs, the are pseudo Slavs. But you speak Slavic language, so they got a lot of Slavic influence, which many believe came from other Slavic groups in Balkans, mostly Serbs.

  • @gringoroko In addition to this idiotic debate I will say something that will maybe settle the argument, We learned at school where it was created, why it was created, It was in Bulgarian capital at that time, I forgot the name, but we learned that it was done by Greek scholars. I can say that Bulgarians had a big influence in creating the Cyrillic alphabet, as much as Greeks. I remember that also Ohrid was mentioned as important place of development of the alphabet.

  • @gringoroko Damn it! I was wrong, turns out St.Clement of Ohrid was indeed a Bulgarian. I freaking hate being wrong! For some reason you pissed me off, ah yea you used peasant as an insult. Have a nice day.

  • @velikistrumfjr Be proud with your small cultural heritage but do not try to steal or underestimate the achievements of others. And what is this joke about Serbian being on the Balkans for 7519 years. Where did u get that from??LOL!

  • Great history Serbian friends, respect from Romania!! Kosovo is Serbia!!!

  • @gogoasacenusie HI Vlachian man, We have the constant argument of who were before in Erdély (transilvania) . You know fact: your ppl arrived after 1300into Erdély. You say, : no! We we were allways there (we r dacian, roman mixture)..the facts : dacia as you see on this map too, is at the Beograd area :-) The romans just gave a name to Erdély as Dacia.Other: most of your ppl arrived after 1920 in our area. Your short history is Fake.Your ancestors r albanians. Check vid :1:26 .

  • @derekutca , Hi Hungarian. Some news for you, the Romanians are the oldest inhabitants from Transylvania for a simple reason. It's written even in your own Hungarian oldest chronicle, Gesta Hungarorum and acknowledged by all the historians from this planet. The even funnier thing is that you claim Romanians came from Albania and there is not even a single historical source saying that. Even much funnier is that not even genetics help you. Check the reality and have fun

  • @gogoasacenusie : daco-roman "theory" is fake, and written by the commison of the habsbourgs by 2 vlachian Goerge Sinkay, and Petru someone..printed in Budapest in 1805. As we say, and many others, dacia was at beograd area, south "romania"was bulgaria.Do you know that your language cont.27% albanian words? Slavs and goths lived in Transilvania for 300years your lang.not contains even 1 germanic word. massive valch arrivals:1859 and 1920.why u do not have own language?

  • @derekutca , 27% albanian words in Romanian language? According to who? "Derekutca" from youtube? Not even Damaszkusz, the biggest hungarian propagandist from youtube lies in such manner lol. "Dacia was at Beograd area" lol have you opened a history book in your entire life my friend? Do you even know what Dacia is and what teritory was? Yeah, it's the exact teritory of Romania + Moldavia. Don't know if you're just trolling or just plain stupid

  • @derekutca The Serbs were the first and best at everything and the bravest, strongest, etc. etc, etc. Just ask them. You are 100% correct.

  • I love It because I'm serbian

  • @MrMicoSrb Ok, I'll send you a PM. ;)

  • @MrMicoSrb Данните са от 17 годишно антропологично проучване (на цялата страна) на Българската Академия на Науките.

  • Illyricum has was never a part of Byzantium, but was always administered by Rome, whether in the form of a prefecture or province. Please check your facts.

  • Potpuno pogresno Sloveni su Dosli BAR 3 VEKA pre 7 VEKA to jest negde oko 300godine

  • GERMAN SUBTITLES PLEASEE!!

  • excellent documentory...well done

  • izvini odakle si ti porjeklom pametnjakovicu(wiseguy) o cemu ti pricas?when you know serbian why than you write in english?

  • @milano921 -Vot?

  • @ForumIstorijaBalkana divan je taj google translator turcine.i swon t translate this to you.

  • @milano921 - Vot?

  • is there anything like this for Croatians? cheers

  • @Khorne676 - Not yet.

  • @ForumIstorijaBalkana I wish there was a movie that showed old age slavic warriors - like kievan rus or tribal warriors or something. I always wanted to see how our ancestors looked and fought in live action. And why not? Movies have portrayed Celts, Vikings, Sarmatians... basically every other European people with barbarian ancestors except us -_-

  • @Khorne676 - But it would not be an accurate representation of how the ancestors looked like, rather it would be someone's interpretation using imagination, actors and some facts based on the accounts from a number of sources that did describe the Slavs. Nevertheless, it would be interesting to see it.

  • @ForumIstorijaBalkana Yeah I guess your right - like the movie Pathfinder was a totally inaccurate representation of Vikings.

  • @Khorne676 You can check the Polish movie "Stara Basn: Kiedy slonce bylo bogiem". Parts of it are on YouTube as well. It's not exactly the most ancient "tribal" times (V-VIIIc.), but it's somewhat close enough, IIRC.

  • @ForumIstorijaBalkana glup si nemam cime da se hvalim pogotovo ne tebi....ja znam sta sam postigao za razliku od tebe komunisto

  • @srpskiheroi - Ha ha ha. Now, I am a communist! Do you know what are the main characteristics of an inferior and uneducated creature [troll] and how they can be detected? Try to analyse your responses starting with your grammar, tone, vocabulary, punctuation and standpoint (a bigot, a nationalist, a thug). Poor little boy!

  • @ForumIstorijaBalkana znas li srpski?Do you speak serbian?If you know write in it.you are talking about history and your state exists just 234 years.our towns exists fot 2000 years.you live in us(united shits) and you want to learn me about mine history.

  • @milano921 - Bato, kako bi bilo da ti umesto da penusas ovde na Youtube dodjes na forum da vidimo tvoje blagovedenije svima na polzu i da nam tako slatkoreciv polozis hesab kao pravi srBski mozak koji poznaje svoju istoriju :) 'Ajd!

  • @ForumIstorijaBalkana people like u who make fun of regular people make me sick

  • @srpskiheroi You are no "regular people" - You are a plebeian thug with limited knowledge base and no manners.

  • @ForumIstorijaBalkana kill ur self lyin mother fucker...

  • @srpskiheroi - See! That's what I am talking about. :)

  • @srpskiheroi - every unintelligent and uneducated reply by a football thug such as yourself will be deleted. When you decide to become a human being then you will be allowed to post comments on this Youtube clip. Comprende?

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  • @srpskiheroi You can keep dreaming about graduation from any institution other than elementary school, boy. Cim zines vidi se koliko si 'entelegentan' i vaspitan.

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  • @srpskiheroi - Whatever turns you on! Mislim ako mozes da verujes u boga onda imas pravo da verujes i u Srbe na vizantijskom dvoru u 4. veku :)))) Tako su rekli na nekom kongresu u Resavi kod deda Milojevica...samo nikako da mi neko pokaze tu rezoluciju sa B. kongresa.

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  • @srpskiheroi Pst, obrazovani! Negacije se pisu odvojeno osim u nekoliko slucajeva. Pst, obrazovani to sto ja ne verujem u bajke ne cini me odmah komunistom! Da imas neko obrazovanje toliko bi znao. A koja je to moja kniga, ljuti? Nisam Srbin, srecom. Ali i srpski umem bolje od tebe tzv. Srbina :)

  • Looks interesting. Care to make subtitles as well (no offense, but the accent is sometimes hardly understandable).

    Btw, Zabergan's "Huns" are actually commonly accepted to be Bulgars.

    Also, nice to hear Isihia's music here, they fit pretty well.

  • @NikeBG - I Avari.

  • @ForumIstorijaBalkana Zabergan's "Huns" were Kutrigurs, the western branch of the Bulgars (the eastern being the Utigurs), which were indeed mostly under Avar dominion and sometimes raided Byzantium under Avar orders, together with the Slavs, as in Zabergan's case. Though I haven't heard of Avar participation in his raid before - only of Kutrigurs and Slavs.

  • @NikeBG Bulgarians are slavs

  • @chaosknight95 Yes, Bulgarians today are Slavs, at least culturally. The Bulgars, however, were most probably not Slavs, although there is a theory parts of them mixed with a somewhat Slavic group in Ukraine before OGB was dispersed.

  • @NikeBG Bulgarians mied with Slavs but they were in many cases leaders of slav tribes and they spread that amongst slavs thats why today 50 % of Bulgaria look more slavic that Serbs even with blue hair and eyes

  • @chaosknight95 The Bulgarians didn't "mix with Slavs", considering they are Slavs. The Bulgars mixed with Slavs and thus formed the Bulgarians.

    And, honestly, I haven't seen a blue-haired Bulgarian before. And the highest percentage of blonds in the country is in the Sofia region - 7% for the women and 3,5% for the men. ;)

  • @NikeBG yep i say youre right they mixed with slavs and made bulgarians .. so whats the problem ?

  • @chaosknight95 Why should there be a problem? ;)

  • @NikeBG :D ok ok

  • @chaosknight95 Bugari i plava kosa i oči???Wtf čak i portugalci imaju više plavih od njih.

  • @MrShadowFreak132 pa indijancu jel su srbi plavi ? jeste 10 % .. jel su hrvati plavi ? .. ? bugari kada su dosli nametnukli su vlast slovenima u danasnjoj bugarskoj kojih je bilo 3 puta vise i pomesali se sa njima, bugari su sloveni isto kolko i srbi

  • @chaosknight95 Srbi su 16%,Hrvati 22%,a Bugari oko 3%....i kakve veze ima plava kosa xD

  • @MrShadowFreak132 Ако погледаш узорак на основу кога је урађено испитивање видећеш да није већи од око 100 особа, тако да је упитне меродавности. Бугари према западу имају више словенских карактеристика, а ка истоку више не само татарских већ и староседелачких. Иначе мој прадеда Шоп (Бугарин) из Ћустендила плав ко Швеђанин. ;-)

  • @MrShadowFreak132 kakv si mentol! Pa, hrvati su asimilovali Srbe a ne obrnuto. srbe na teritoriji krajine, razumes te Srbe jer nije bilo hrvtana u sumadiji da ih asimiluju. razumes?

  • @chaosknight95 Slovenska haplogroupa R1a je u Bugarskoj oko 5-10%,u Srbiji od 30-35%,U hrvatskoj 20-25%.

  • @MrShadowFreak132 ne u bugarskoj je 30% tim podatcima mozes dupe da obrises

  • @NikeBG you could click on cc than transcribe audio, it has mistakes but in 90 procent correct translation

  • @Sekulamix Thanks, I didn't know about this function of YouTube. Seems quite useful (although, as you said, not perfect, yet).

  • @NikeBG np glad to help :D

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