Is it possible to to have a sect that doesn't worship that they write about in scripture?Why do we automatically assume that every sect in anciet times worshipped.Personally I believe the gnostics didn't worship anything but that doesn't stop people in modern times calling themselves gnostics and worshipping carved things.There own scripture suggests that they weren't worshippers,and didn't enjoy praying.
Speaking of "Gnosticism" as if it were a unified and singular entity is beyond erroneous. This is known by anyone who has ever looked into the matter historically. But historical knowledge and the majority of the followers of mainstream Christianity often find themselves conveniently at odds.
Centuries of being the hegemonic peddler of religiosity makes them view themselves as the only path. Now they squirm in mild perturbation; their sadistic Old Testament storm god is on the wane.
There is also the theory that the author of John and the beloved disciple were actually the Magdalene. There are many ways to interpret that quote from Thomas. @babyface10725 You say that because someone taught you to. You don't really know. The Romans and the Jews were the ones accusing Jesus, yet their way to tame and present Christianity to the world is the one most widely accepted. It doesn't necessarily make it true. In fact, it's highly suspicious.
ow and by the way Thomas isnt a gnostic gospel, though people think that ! And there are indeed some passages who have a gnostic sense, but it is from the jerusalem-comunity, and there was an earler source, even lactatntius used it in his gospelharmonie diatesseron, he got passages wich could be only in Thomas, or the source of Thomas, and ass we know he wasnt a gnostic, but there are more cleu's there
it is not that they actually do worship her, they revere her as the counterpole of the male, the sophia.the mysterium coniunctionis, the + & - , good and evil, the dissolve of poles to reach the incomprehensible, the incorruptible etc etc. But i think that most gnostics are wrong, and simply put the corpus hermeticum and plato's divinity lore, and mix it with Christ his parabels and deeds. Also there are multiple groups of gnosis in the 1 C. the Kathars didnt look like the 1 C gnostics
Funny, they really don't show any documentation EXCEPT for the Thomas line, which many have come out saying that it was something added after the original 113 saying of Jesus were written. And how can they have such a lack of understanding of female = material and male = spirit...
In the Valentinian cosmology Sophia was one of the emanations from God who eventually gave way to the Demiurge, it was the Demiurge who in ignorance fashioned the material world believing himself the only god and in so doing trapped the aeons in prisons of flesh called bodies.
Different Gnostic sects had different opinions and ideas, there was no singular "Gnosticism", though the Valentian form became most influential--arguably.
yes i am well aware of that, but we also have the upper and lower sophia, i did not say anything about the sophia making the world i am well versed in my own system.
stupid, listen making the female male is a final sacrement of the gnostic faith, also the male would become the female, it is called the bridegroom chamber,
Is it possible to to have a sect that doesn't worship that they write about in scripture?Why do we automatically assume that every sect in anciet times worshipped.Personally I believe the gnostics didn't worship anything but that doesn't stop people in modern times calling themselves gnostics and worshipping carved things.There own scripture suggests that they weren't worshippers,and didn't enjoy praying.
kmichael212 10 months ago
Speaking of "Gnosticism" as if it were a unified and singular entity is beyond erroneous. This is known by anyone who has ever looked into the matter historically. But historical knowledge and the majority of the followers of mainstream Christianity often find themselves conveniently at odds.
Centuries of being the hegemonic peddler of religiosity makes them view themselves as the only path. Now they squirm in mild perturbation; their sadistic Old Testament storm god is on the wane.
agapeiron 1 year ago
There is also the theory that the author of John and the beloved disciple were actually the Magdalene. There are many ways to interpret that quote from Thomas. @babyface10725 You say that because someone taught you to. You don't really know. The Romans and the Jews were the ones accusing Jesus, yet their way to tame and present Christianity to the world is the one most widely accepted. It doesn't necessarily make it true. In fact, it's highly suspicious.
rivv3tify 1 year ago
Long live the Daughter! Father's First Thought!
ShahMashya 2 years ago
ow and by the way Thomas isnt a gnostic gospel, though people think that ! And there are indeed some passages who have a gnostic sense, but it is from the jerusalem-comunity, and there was an earler source, even lactatntius used it in his gospelharmonie diatesseron, he got passages wich could be only in Thomas, or the source of Thomas, and ass we know he wasnt a gnostic, but there are more cleu's there
Vergilius07 3 years ago
@Vergilius07
Thomas is a false book and so are the rest of the non-canonical books.
babyface10725 1 year ago
it is not that they actually do worship her, they revere her as the counterpole of the male, the sophia.the mysterium coniunctionis, the + & - , good and evil, the dissolve of poles to reach the incomprehensible, the incorruptible etc etc. But i think that most gnostics are wrong, and simply put the corpus hermeticum and plato's divinity lore, and mix it with Christ his parabels and deeds. Also there are multiple groups of gnosis in the 1 C. the Kathars didnt look like the 1 C gnostics
Vergilius07 3 years ago
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NC360 3 years ago
Those who speak don't know and those who know don't speak.
RosaSionis 2 years ago 3
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NC360 2 years ago
Funny, they really don't show any documentation EXCEPT for the Thomas line, which many have come out saying that it was something added after the original 113 saying of Jesus were written. And how can they have such a lack of understanding of female = material and male = spirit...
fitedeltachi 3 years ago
the sophia is the divine feminine of gnosticism
hhein01 3 years ago
In the Valentinian cosmology Sophia was one of the emanations from God who eventually gave way to the Demiurge, it was the Demiurge who in ignorance fashioned the material world believing himself the only god and in so doing trapped the aeons in prisons of flesh called bodies.
Different Gnostic sects had different opinions and ideas, there was no singular "Gnosticism", though the Valentian form became most influential--arguably.
jbstuff 3 years ago
yes i am well aware of that, but we also have the upper and lower sophia, i did not say anything about the sophia making the world i am well versed in my own system.
hhein01 3 years ago
Totally dogmatic thinking completly ignoring some of the latest findings
fraconrob 4 years ago
stupid, listen making the female male is a final sacrement of the gnostic faith, also the male would become the female, it is called the bridegroom chamber,
hhein01 3 years ago
How is it so hard for them to see that? They take one of the most beautiful ideas and interpret it as anti-feminine.
Sonofmorning9 3 years ago
they do these things all the time. they dont understand any of it back then and now
hhein01 3 years ago