Southern Exposure Documentary Excerpt: Aztlan and Reconquista

[ixachitlanabyayala]

was India racist for wanting to regain the control of their land from the British? was Spain racist for fighting the moors and regaining control of spain after 700 or 800 years of moorish occupation? Were the Irish evil for wanting to gain control of Ireland from the British? And there's more examples. So why is it bad when Indigenous people fight for liberation?

[ixachitlanabyayala]

is a white supremacist. I'm not saying all should be kicked out there are european descendent (white people) who believe in the Indigenous liberation cause and of course they along with anyone else who wants to help liberate us can stay. I am no racist and welcome people of any race or ethnicity to help us. was China racist for fighting the mongols who tried to invade for trying to get back they're land from the manchurians, japanese, and english?

[ixachitlanabyayala]

cultures that should be dominant our languages should be dominant. Would it be right to just invade say Indonesia and say ok "from now on we're all gonna be unified under one language one flag, one culture not any of the cultures that were already her but ones that we're gonna impose here. The only people I wish to kick out are white supremacists and white supremacy is a state of mind any one of any race who believes that this "american" continent should remain the way it is, eurocentric

[ixachitlanabyayala]

"one language" english? that's a european language why should that be the main language here. it was imposed on us. "one culture" "one flag" both creations of european descendents and are foreign to these Indigenous lands. Why should we be unified in these eurocentric ways. and it's not just here it's the same all throughout the continent. this isn't about how the u.s. got mexico both are colonial constructs created by foreigners not us Indigenous populations. This is Indigenous land it's our

[ixachitlanabyayala]

This isn't about claiming this as Aztlan. This is about fighting for the liberation of the whole "american" continent not just the "u.s.". From Alaska all the way to Tierra Del Fuego. I don't know about the brown berets or mecha but the Mexica Movement is about Indigenous liberation throughout the continent. "one nation, one flag, one language, one culture, one people" uhhm I don't think so this is an Indigenous nation that was stolen and remains stolen to this day.

[standman528]

The last time I checked, we kicked the shit of those who tried to seize the United States. And if they try to do it again, the same results will happen. Except this time, Mexico won't get paid squat!!!!!!!!!!! To the victor goes the spoils, pretty much the same thing Mexico did to Spain, or have you forgot about that.

[momojuice2040]

Stfu our continet did it have your name

[nenitoloco6]

What if Latinos becomeajority ,then they take the land and after a few civil wars they pay for the land they took so that could be a valid reason right...so they (europeans)did the same way.. Europeans belive that the land has a price in dollars .. But land cannot be owned that way..!!!

[moiemane]

Latino's are defined as the French Portugese, Italians, Greeks, and Spanish; so most Mexicans are a new aspec of white America; most aren't lilly white but they're white. Theyre not allowed on any American Indian reservation because they're frauds If Mexicans want a brown homeland take it back from the White Mexicans that control every aspec of your Mexican society you have these Mexicans that are whites coming to America talking about how California is actually Mexicos.Mexico is white globalism

[amerlibmov]

The coming second great depression is going to cause the greatest reversal of migration in world history. Unemployment will climb so high that millions of immigrants, legal and illegal will depart in the coming decades. If they return home now, they have a chance of finding jobs to survive the crisis. If they stay, there'll be no jobs here and nothing when they have to return home anyway. Illegals go now to survive or be prepared to experience unemployment, hunger and deprivation in the U.S.

[cassius969]

Not to mention all those Atztlan chicos are insourmountable idiots who must be totally ignorant about history. They are the natives of Atztlan? Dont make laugh. The indios spoke spanish? Really? You chicos uneducated brown thrash wannabe Chico X need to look up The conquistadors and waht they did.

Get a clue about history. You are not the indios, yall came here AFTER columbus.

[cassius969]

@Funkidx38 You say so? Fine lets have a war over it, winner takes all and the loser gets exterminated and burned to ashes.

[standman528]

TO FUNKIDX38 - You're nothing but a dumb-ass racist POS that shouldn't have the right to breathe air. You are the type that deserves a visit by the Knights Templar.

[calman1951]

An Indian movement w/a Spanish name hmmmm?

[1coolguysuper]

@calman1951 This is hardly a movement,many don't even know who the enemy is.

[calman1951]

@1coolguysuper I think Our real enemy is Mexico's version of history and race.One thing Mexico wont admit the first thief of the SouthWest was Spain.

[1coolguysuper]

@calman1951 Your confusing Mexicans with Chicanos.

Mexico doesn't teach "Aztlan Reconquista",Mexico is actually a ally to the U.S.

Chicanos are U.S.Americans of Mexican descent,and most members of racist groups like La Raza and Mecha are chicanos.

To say that they represent Mexico,it's like saying the jersey Shore represents Italy.

Reconquista is not a Mexican ideology.

[calman1951]

@1coolguysuper First off Mexico still teches its students that the SouthWest was stolen.I know the difference between a Pocho/Chicano.But who teaches Them?And lets face it Mexicans are very nationalistic and with alot of good reasons but many,many of My friends still believe This is still Mexico

[1coolguysuper]

@calman1951 What does that have to do with "La Reconquista"?

Mexico doesn't teach "La Reconquista" at all.

What we call the "Mexican–American War" of 1846 to 1848 in our text books, in Mexico it's called "The U.S.invasion of Mexico". Why do you think they call it that?

Also,just cause your dumbass friends believe what they believe it doesn't make it so.

To say that La Raza,Mecha or your friends represent Mexico,it's like saying the Jersey Shore represents Italy.

[1coolguysuper]

@calman1951 Part 2

Give me a reference to where Mexico teaches "La Reconquista"?

[calman1951]

@1coolguysuper Quit trying to confuse the is issue.I never said that the Mexican govt teaches La Reqonquista. I said that Mexico teaches that the USA stole the SoWest.Just so You understand that as far as Im concerned Its the USA's and the movement is full of crap.Where do You think the movement got its ideas as full of bs as they are?

[1coolguysuper]

@calman1951 That's cause it was stolen dumbass,but I have never heard the mexican government or no one in mexico to ever believe that they should "take back' the southwest of the U.S.

Mexico doesn't want the southwest dumbass,but that doesn't mean one has to change history or candy coat it.

Hell,i bet you won't want to call the slave trade "The Slave Trade".

[calman1951]

@1coolguysuper Who stole it first moron?Then WTF does Reconquesta mean in Spanish? You'll never make a Jeopardy contestant that's for sure.As for the slave trade You would lose that bet jerk.Since You know so much about what Mexico want or doesnt want tell them California is luck NOT to be part of Mexico

[standman528]

@1coolguysuper - Mexico wasn't stolen. The US kicked the shit out of Mexico's army in a war. Have you ever heard the saying, "To the victor goes the spoils"? Sadly, liberal-type fucks in politics felt sorry and paid Mexico for the land that was conquored. If you want to believe otherwise, go ahead and live in your racist, hate-filled world. As for the teaching of La Reconquista, it is being taught HERE, by dumb-ass Mexican racists. Does MEChA ring a bell, fool.

[1coolguysuper]

@standman528 You obviously didn't read what I wrote.

First, the U.S. wanted to expand their territory "From sea to shining sea" and offered to buy the land from Mexico,Mexico said no,and the U.S declared war on Mexico.

The U.S. invaded Mexico (just like how a burglar invades a house) and fought Mexico (just like how a burglar fights the owners) and took part of it's land,(just like how a burglar takes ones possessions).

So by definition,it was stolen.

Continue

[1coolguysuper]

@standman528 Part 2

Also you need to distinguish Mexican from Chicano.

MECha is a chicano ( a U.S. American of Mexican descent) ideology and NOT a Mexican (someone who was born and lives in Mexico) one.

[arcyfatale]

@standman528

Our continet was stolen!

[standman528]

@Carsiotto - Your position is quite clear based on your postings. You are a racist. Pure and simple. The earth would be far better off without scum like you inhabiting the planet, spreading your lies and ignorance. FYI - We and are responsible for what we do today, not what our ancestors did centuries ago. Stop blaming other people for your own shortcomings. It's time for you to shed the racist chip on your shoulder and try making something of yourself.

[calman1951]

Youre full of shit to think there was free and open travel between the vrious Native tribes here. then.Why did the other tribes help Cortez?The fact its a Spanish word is proff its Mexican imperialism

[calman1951]

Its obvious that all You can do is make generazations.And I bet You speak another Whitemans language-Spanish.

[VtaCoLegal]

We have been witnessing this in So Cal for far too many years! I have been attacked as have been too many people I know. Send them all back to their own countries and make them come back the legal way. We don't want these criminal border jumpers in our country. Of course their own countries don't want them back.

[carsiotto]

Long Live americans! Down with racist white settlers!!!

[calman1951]

@carsiotto And down w/racist La Raza-which ignores the fact Spain is a European country

[carsiotto]

@calman1951 Of course Spain is a european country you meat head, but Not at mexicans have european blood and if they do, its less than their indigenous blood.

[calman1951]

@carsiotto How do You know that asshole?Mixed is mixed dickhead.

[carsiotto]

@calman1951 Everybody is mixed though you dumbass...hahah the spaniards have arab to black to italian. The french have some of that mix too. Are you that dense? hahah learn some history you troll.

[calman1951]

@carsiotto I know enough history to know the whole movement is like a bowel movement-full of shit.Why not claim Asia as well-since We agree that Natives here came from Asia big deal.Open Your eyes moron and kiss the Bear flag of MY State

[carsiotto]

@calman1951 Obviously what you think you know is not enough you fucking idiot. hahaa. Anyways, the societies that developed in the americas were nothing like the cultures of asia, so why claim that you fucking donkey? haha Its like saying that since europeans migrated from the middle east, they should claim that, even though the european culture is not like the ones that exist in the middle east. You're a dumb ass.

[calman1951]

@carsiotto Does this mean Black or Asian "settlers" are ok w/You.If anyone is racist its You moron.You hate Whites so much You've even call someone claiming to be 100% Native a Whitemans slave w/out even knowing ALL the true fact much as dont  believe Youre not 100% Native-dont know ,dont care..Whats important is You sound like an Idiot w/Your"hahaha's.I find out what mighty Geronimo did to Mexican settlers on BOTH side of the Border and Youll see why the US was welcolmed here.HAHAHAHA

[carsiotto]

@calman1951 All settlers are welcomed. Except racists. Be they white black or asian. Bitch.

[calman1951]

@carsiotto And as long as They come LEGALLY to My Country there isnt a problem .

[carsiotto]

@calman1951 The people of this continent had no borders before the european invasion. Consider this a reconquista of the indigenous culture.

[Nowhereman10]

@Homonoid They're getting desperate because the hate literature they use as textbooks to brainwash the kids with is being exposed now, and so they're trying to cover it up as quickly as possible. But it's too late, the word is out and now that shit will be shut down, hopefully for good.

[standman528]

Conservatives=racists? What a stretch. So I guess MEChA, the Nazi Brown Beret's, LaRaza and LULAC, etc. are just mild-mannered groups that love white people as well as brown skinned people? We both know the answer to that, don't we. These orgs are racist, through and through...much like yourself.

[Nowhereman10]

@standman528 You nailed it on the head, my man. This is reverse racism. Plain and simple. The groups you named are to hispanics what the KKK, Aryan Nation, and NAZIs are to white people. The brown racists just managed to get away with it because of the soft-hearted liberals and radical groups supporting them. Just look at some of the groups supporting this crap, like the Weather Underground terrorist organization. All U.S. peoples, regardless of color, need to wake up and fight this!

[PacificCircle1]

Why is it ONLY white conservatives

(racists) using the term 'reconquista".

[Heather0516]

@PacificCircle1 I'm a white conservative, bitch, and I am not a racist, I'm a REALIST. You're a pussy and an idiot.

[PacificCircle1]

@Heather0516 you deserve a medal! your right about the B part - thanks for proving you believe anything, esp. that you not a racict scrathing Uranus!

[standman528]

@scarynight63 - Its not this bad?????????? Either you've got your head up your ass or you're a racist open-border, pro-illegal immigration activist. Either way, you don't know squat! Your words are meaningless unless you prove your point.

[scarynight63]

its not this bad everyone relax.

[TsugaC]

It's time to arm the border and begin the mass deportations. When you invite the Third World in mass, you de facto become the Third World. One doesn't have to conduct more than a cursory study of Central and South America to understand exactly what a "bronze" invasion would do to our Anglo-Protestant nation.