Makoto v Dudley death combo

[GBchannel28]

Can someone explain to me how makoto did a jumping forward/backward hardpunch when doing a neutral jump? Cause that's not her neutral jump punch... does it change if you parry?

[Realmasterorder]

It was a better game cause there were sick things that could be done with the right skillz but any game that got a 100% bail out mechanism like the parry on everything is not balanced that is why they replaced that with the focus attack mechanism

[TheStfu1000]

@Realmasterorder what do you mean parrying is a 100% bail out mechanism? it's 100% invincible if you guess and then time right...

[Kelohmello]

I'm sure people already know this, but this isn't a true combo. You can parry in the air, and you can parry that Super Art reset.

[DarkStarEdd]

stun combos count ...well fuck it your still dead bitch =] combo or stunned you got owned

[catreflex]

0:00 - 0:03

basically looks like how daigo beasted wong at Evo . :D

[iLiKeCeReAl2]

Damn!

[JumpingBalrog]

if you can parry without risk it's not a reset.

[slasher200x]

you can parry de 2nd super

[RSONE32]

not a combo... but a reset. 2combos brah.

[nasnek]

fake

[darkhokage]

Yeah this is more of a reset since he still had the opportunity to parry that SA2

[gakothechef]

OH makoto! if only you were just as good here than in super street fighter 4

[SFCatgirlFanatic]

@gakothechef Give it some time, and she will be. WE MUST STICK WITH HER THOUGH! And keep the memory of bodying people in 3S with her in us.

[gakothechef]

@SFCatgirlFanatic no doubt about it. your referring to the AE dlc right?

[SFCatgirlFanatic]

@gakothechef Yes indeed. Those of us who fought through her embarrassing transition to SSF4 will be rewarded for our hard work and perseverance.

[gakothechef]

@SFCatgirlFanatic Glad to hear that man! are they reworking every character?

[SFCatgirlFanatic]

@gakothechef Yes, to some degree...for better or worse. Just check out Eventhubs for whichever character you play. Or just google it. There should be something listed for all of them.

[gakothechef]

@SFCatgirlFanatic all right man or girl, thanks for the heads up!

[lucastva]

How i do the final taunt "RAIAAAA" on death Dudley?

[TheEdge0fLife]

Street Fighter 3 > Super Smash Fighter 4.

[kongchho]

@TheEdge0fLife what the heck is super smash fighter?

[goninghome]

i love dudley and his cars oh and makotos boobs

[maaden00]

thats so awesome.............. i cant wait till it comes to ps3

[Zae180]

thats the karate kid 4 u

[fredb3]

thats 2 combos! not a death combo, Dudley could have escaped that combo reset.

[lucastva]

ISSO EH UM ABSURDO!!! EU AMO ELA!!!

[edgemasters]

these are 2 combos... you can parry the second ultra -___-

[Perfectedidiot21]

Parrying in the beggining was sexy

[darkhokage]

I noticed at 0:08 Dudley probably could have parried, although this is still pretty amazing.

[JReuben]

I LOVE THEM BOTH! but damn thats a sexy combo!!!! five stars from me :).....im afraid i agree with voodazz i doubt she will be as combin as she was in 3rd strike :( but im sill happy to see her in ssf4!!!!! :D MAKOTO IS THE BEST LOL XD

[leanfist]

sikness

[voodazz]

She's going to be so toned down in SSFIV :(

[tonefresh]

Wonder how hard her hard trials will be in SSF4 O.O

[majinsupervegito]

nice reset, its a shame SF4 makes you invulnerable during that kind of thing, you miss out on a lot of mind games because of that.

[xScytheWPx]

@majinsupervegito

If you want balance in a game, you should be glad these resets don't occur in 4...

[majinsupervegito]

i'm not. i think its stupid that any game ever makes you 100% invincible during that period. standard juggle properties should apply when there is no air block or parry system, and if there is, learn to block or parry.

3S is a better game than SF4, balance doesnt make the game. how fun the game is makes the game.

[frenzii3s]

i like your opinion, and will agree

[majinsupervegito]

you might not like my opinion, as i actually like SF4 and most 3S fans dont.

i think its a very solid fighter and if SSF4 is as aggressive as s-kill says it is it will be a very good game. sure you have the "usual suspects" in 3S tourney play, but that japanese nationals qualifier for SF4 had 7 sagats out of the 24 players, so really you cant knock SF3 for that without knocking the "better balanced" game. IMO 3S was just more fun to mess around with, but i am beyond hyped for SSF4.

[frenzii3s]

no i understand completely, as I like sf4 as well and am mega hyped for ssf4...and im not going to play any of the 3s characters...im sticking to viper...I simply cant wait for them to fix the little quirks that keep on making mii call bullshit...but i definately enjoy sf4, even tho i think 3s is the best thing to happen to world since oxygen

[SukiyakixD]

And SFIV is not a balance wonderland too.

IMO, it's wat worse lol.

[majinsupervegito]

SF4 is infinitely more balanced than SF3. for one, the worst character in the game doesnt even have any match ups worse than 3-7, and even goes 5-5 with some of the cast (dan is this character). with SF3 though, 7 of the characters have multiple 2-8 match ups.

also in SF3 you wont win a tourney if you arent one of the big 3. on the other hand, SF4's head honcho (sagat) has yet to win a major tourney despite the number of people who use him.

but SF3 is still more fun to play.

[SukiyakixD]

SFIV is wrong even in theory, c'mon, dhalsim has low hp beacause he is a keepway character so you should hit him hard up close.

Sagat is a great keep away character, with kara uppercut, 6HK and TK as AAs and fireball spam, his throw sends you back to the other side of the screen easy to combo ultra, and he's got like what, 200-300 more hp than dhal. And WAY more damaging and efficient up close.

You don't even need to play to see the flaws.

[SukiyakixD]

Part 2 - (slightly off-topic)

Not in 3S, since the game works way more in close quarters than 4, it might give a better chance to any character with basic mixups,(UOH helps too) so even if it IS more unbalanced the game is more varied. The bad point in this is that easy to confirm SAs, insanely good pokes and strong mixups weight more than anything else.

My point is, the 12 year old 3S feels more fresh and varied now, with all "exploits" found, then turtle fighter 4 with it's 2 years.

[majinsupervegito]

lol i know dude, but its still a good game. its flawed, but SSF4 suposedly fixes a lot. i know sagat has the standard 1000 health now (instead of 1100), he deals less damage (i think fierce TU does like 50 less now or something like that), i mean they're trying. sagat slipped through a big crack i'll admit, but he's the only flaw in the game's balance IMO.

[misterbee180]

@SukiyakixD True he is strong up close, but you need to either use an uppercut or knee up close to be powerful. All your oponant needs to do is guess your attack and there's half your life. And up close, when he's down, he doesn't really have a lot of good options to get out of pressure.

He's strong but most people playing against him just don't know what to look for and so they lose.

[hamelkarl]

Get your fact right... Sagat did win more tourney that you can think. It's not only the top three that did win all the tournaments in SF3 too. I saw almost anyone in the cast one at least won once. Urien, Makoto, Dudley, Ryu, Necro, Alex and a a lot's of others. I still play the 3 mainly because I don't like matchup in the 4. Facing Sagat is like facing the boss in the 3. Even Yun was not that cheap.

[majinsupervegito]

name one major tourney where a sagat player won. iyo (dhalsim), daigo (ryu), jwong (rufus, balrog, fei long, cammy), poongko (ryu) and many others have won major tourneys. i've seen sagats win small local stuff, but never anything big. the simple fact of the matter is that if you're good at the game sagat isnt a huge deal unless you're one of the 7-3 match ups, hell even luffy's rose placed better than sagats did. we (me and you) arent good so sagat's blatant top tier status gives us trouble.

[tropicalsean]

@majinsupervegito Sagat is a big deal, everything about him is easy and the fact is most of the best players you listed don't need to play Sagat to win and what if they did.. then you might see them win a big tourney as well. Anyway, the tier list is just a way of saying in most cases amongst pro levels this character beats this character out. I'm off topic a bit.. I mean when all you have to do is f+hk, f+hk ultra for half health don't you think that's too easy?

[majinsupervegito]

@tropicalsean

honestly, i dont ever see f+hkX2->ultra land in match. good players dont just jump at sagat like that. the fact that he can do it is scary, but if you know he can then you dont give him that chance for free, right? part of the problem is people look at what sagat can do and not what they can do. do less random jumps, FA through fireballs more. there are ways to get at sagat without jumping which doesnt give him that chance, and if you're eating random uppercut to ultra then...

[tropicalsean]

@majinsupervegito All what you said make Sagat A tier, characters work very hard to get into him when he can sit back and do a few simple motions. While certain characters like Sim even played with Iyo have to do rediculous high-risk, high-reward moves to have a chance. Sim deserved a few tools in ssf4 but didn't get them. Anyway, your right about people looking at what they can do and what they can't.

[majinsupervegito]

@tropicalsean

and while i agree that sim needed some tools, he wasnt the only one. another way to balance games is to remove a good characters tools, and losing trade to ultra was a big one for sagat. losing health and damage output was another, as well as losing kara TKs and his combo to ultra only doing 400-something. SSF4 doesnt look like it will have the same problems SF4 does, although i do admit if his core play remains the same he will still be toward the top of the tier list.

[majinsupervegito]

@tropicalsean

you're playing recklessly. i'm not saying sagat isnt too good, and that he doesnt have blatant tools others lack, but he's not the big deal the mid level players make him out to be.

i'm a mid level player, i have trouble with sagat, i'll admit that. but that doesnt mean that sagat is broken, it means he is exploitable at mid level play. a characters potential is how match ups are determined, high level play. sagat owning scrubs means nothing, sagat doesnt own high level players.

[majinsupervegito]

@tropicalsean

you're playing recklessly. i'm not saying sagat isnt too good, and that he doesnt have blatant tools others lack, but he's not the big deal the mid level players make him out to be.

i'm a mid level player, i have trouble with sagat, i'll admit that. but that doesnt mean that sagat is broken, it means he is exploitable at mid level play. a characters potential is how match ups are determined, high level play. sagat owning scrubs means nothing, sagat doesnt own high level players.

[tropicalsean]

@majinsupervegito I don't play recklessly.. i'm mid-level like yourself of course or else we wouldn't be having this discussion lol. I'm not talking about Sagat owning scrubs like a ken who just crossup mk into hp+dp. To me he seemed like a hard matchup with a majority of characters out there compared to others. Oh btw who do you main and sub?

[majinsupervegito]

@tropicalsean

i main balrog, i sub akuma and rose (and like everyone else, i know how to play ryu). i've mained balrog since CvS2 was relatively new, so i dont feel the least bit bad about it. hell i use him in alpha 3, and he pretty much sucks there.

and the reason i said you get hit by that is because you play recklessly is because i get hit by that kind of stuff when i get frustrated and reckless.

and yeah, he is a rough match up for most of the cast, but its still no worse than 7-3...

[majinsupervegito]

@tropicalsean

for anyone. its not like chun, yun, ken in 3S where some characters have 8-2 match ups. when you look at SF4 tiers, the lowest character is much closer to the best character than in any other SF game. sagat just stands out so much because what makes him good is so obvious, and if you are mid level like us you might not know your way around it (i do as balrog and sort of as akuma, my rose tends to get face fucked by sagat... but balrog and akuma are top tier).

[spriggangt]

Yeah I agree with this completely. Don't get me wrong SF4 has it's downfalls, but it is well balanced. But a well balanced mediocre game is still mediocre. Makoto won't be this bad inSSF4 either. First of all since Abarai is now Ultra you won't see two of them coming out in one round back to back. Although Super (tanden Reki) plus ultra is available which is pretty dang mean.

[DoubleKill]

too bad she wont be able to juggle that well anymore

[Hyan36]

I CAN"T FUCKING WAIT TO USE HER ON SSFIV

[rfaler]

@Hyan36

AGREED!!!!! My pants are already off!

[Kenderwood]

makoto wins!

[Shezmu]

I love Makoto. Shes Slayer, but with boobs. :p

[raymkkkk]

i love her too ssf4 here we come

[jddaman1337]

@Shezmu

pedo

[HaphazardPath]

@Shezmu Boobs is a term to be used loosely when describing Makoto.

[SAlpsu]

@Shezmu What boobs?

[rivalintraining]

@Shezmu makoto has boobs?

[raff2112]

@Shezmu shemale

[DoobyMastah]

@Shezmu Excuse you? Makoto came first.

But I love Guilty Gear lol

[rockroc1]

Epic combo, always nice to setup and pull off when the timing is right pissed my brother off last night with this same combo. Makoto owns.

[Bushin22]

Nice combo and lol at the Fag Emo fight about grammar on the comments... xD

[GRRAB]

people who argue about grammar on youtube streetfighter vids shouldn't be allowed to raise children. fucking retarded.

[ThePhyzer]

This is not a combo, this is a reset

[layarteBdnAevoL]

I may just be a newbie, but it seemed that the combo broke at 0:10, can't Dudley air parry it from that point?

[shnoobii]

ya he can parry it in air (if he was a pro)

[Styxorcist]

@shnoobii

Come on man, you don't have be "pro" to parry it. You just need to be familiar with the timing.

This pro thing has people too worked up.

[SoulBankai]

@Styxorcist

So true, If people stopped talking about having to be "pro" then more people could get into it and get better. At least thats what I think.

[bobaryanmage]

No it was an air reset

[trizizzle032]

you would likely only have to parry one hit but its till sick and would definitely catch people off guard

[bobaryanmage]

@trizizzle032

True, and im not undermining the video it was still sick

[tenthman22]

@layarteBdnAevoL You're right, it's not all one combo. It's an air reset which can be parried out of.

[mattieboy01]

@layarteBdnAevoL OK ppl im pretty sure everyone got the point across that its 2 combos not 1, and good on u layarte for spotting it. Also this is only possible if makoto were to somehow have that 1 lvl of super when the match starts 2

[SuperDooperChan]

@layarteBdnAevoL yes, Dudley CAN parry at that point, it's nice against people who don't even attempt to parry the entire round though...

[TheBiz182]

@layarteBdnAevoL No. It's an air-reset.

[WolfSyn]

@layarteBdnAevoL Good luck with that...

[iverson25allen]

@layarteBdnAevoL Only if Dudley is hit with a reset attack. Light Kick or Light Punch wouldve reset him, enabling an opportunity for an aerial parry.

[mtran66]

@layarteBdnAevoL yes

[WinAFreeAppleIPod]

@layarteBdnAevoL I think he's still in air-reset mode

[fabioxperuggia]

@layarteBdnAevoL yes he can, its a reset

[djmixah]

@layarteBdnAevoL Yeah, and honestly, it's not that hard to parry that, which is why if you watch a pro Mak player, like Boss... you'll never see that reset.

[raff2112]

@layarteBdnAevoL hes falling back first aka juggle time

[kokenyuken]

@layarteBdnAevoL generally, yeah.

[Batou2006]

Wrong.

It's called a reset.

Not a lot of people catch the reset....just because you can't see the resets doesn't mean you suck.

[DboiKidCrisis]

but it also mean you are far from pro

[Batou2006]

Not even that.

I even see RX get hit by resets all the time...he just knows when to parry one and take another. It's all apart of how you want to toy with your opponent's momentum, that's all.

[darkzealot07]

dudley could of parried the second SA2 but then again most ppl who play this game suck and wont be able to parry dat lol

[Alansr10]

most people that play this game sucks...? i dont even wanna bother tell you how many things are wrong with that statement.

[StealthConcept]

It's not that he sucks the makoto player had him assed out. He probably just panicked. You need to be a little bit more considerate.

[Jankenpop]

Or maybe if you guys didn't have shit for brains, you'd realize that this was not an actual match.

[StealthConcept]

Regardless of whether it was or not, that happens to anyone there not going to sit there all cool at the machine like " Oh yeah this is great, I'll just parry at the second reset and make my awesome comeback " And how much do you fail telling me I have shit for brains.....Then typing you'd in that same sentence, tell me where in school they taught you that....You'd....rofl go cut yourself please : ]

[Jankenpop]

You find the word "you'd" funny considering it's just a contraction of "you" and "would", which is definitely a word in the English language?

The logic's definitely there.

Not to mention you obviously need to review the difference between they're, there and their.

If you're going to call someone's correct diction and grammar incorrect, at least do it with correct grammar and diction.

[StealthConcept]

I don't need to use any sort of proper grammar. I c@n typ3 in ani fuckery I please, im not the one who insulted someone else with a derogatory comment unprovoked. And for someone who is so hip and hop on their <--)big whoop :] ) contractions they would know logics is how the word is stated. Stop using spell check : ]

[Jankenpop]

Again, you continually fail at correcting grammar; due to the context of what I said, "logic's" would be correct, as I'm simply using a contract of "logic" and "is".

Not to mention you state that you don't need to use any sort of proper grammar, even though in a previous post you decided to correct my grammar, making you a hypocrite as well as an idiot.

And I wouldn't say I was insulting you unprovoked; if someone is being a total idiot, I feel it is my duty to inform them as such.

[Jankenpop]

Not even going to go into your grammatical and spelling errors.

I would, however, like you to point out exactly where in my original message did I say that most people who play Street Fighter suck at it.

What I merely stated is that you people were assuming that this was a true match, and talking about the Dudley player like he was a functioning human being.

[Jankenpop]

That is not the case; this was obviously either training mode, or simply a set up between two people to showcase a rather impressive Makoto combo after a parried EX Machine Gun Blow.

And finally, I never stated that I was better than any Street Fighter player, nor did I state I was any good at Street Fighter.

I am merely an average player living in Vancouver, where there's not much of a tournament scene.

[Larfe517exe]

raeg

[FlexMathews]

Nice.

[Takosimesan]

Beast much?

[luc294]

FUCKIN BEAST!

[DjAlaric]

The parry was sweet itself to be pulled off in pressure (me noob with parry, hehe street fighter 4 spoiled me).

[DboiKidCrisis]

I love SF4 to death, but 3rd strike owns it.

[freelancergin]

wow, she parried a whole EX machine gun blow

[whiteferio]

fook dudley, makota numba one

[damyne77]

oh my jesus christ

[picklesnorf101]

HOLY SHIT ASS that was a quick fight! I think more people should use Makoto

[prodigy2520]

Got damn! that was a dust off session!

[burger87]

I still don't know what a reset means.

Shed some light?

[SoulBankai]

When you combo, your attacks get weaker and weaker, what a reset does is make it so they do 100% again.

Heres a crappy Example using made up numbers: a regular punch does 12 damage, combo it and the next punch will only do 10 damage instead. The move did less damage. but by grabbing or jumping over the person to force them to turn around, they are 'reset'

[burger87]

Oic. If I do a reset on an opponent(0.09 in this case?), can they parry the next hit?

[Humbag]

reseting does not reset the damage.

In fact supers off of resets scale even more.

Only thing resets DO do is reset the stun damage so you can potentially do stun combos like these.

This isnt gaurenteed however cause dudley could have parried the 2nd super.

[SoulBankai]

Oh? Fuck, I play other games that the reset actually resets the damage. Sorry for the misinformation. But thanks, I didn't even know that, I could use that to my advantage now. I'm still learning this game, thats right, STILL learning this game.

[KefkaVI]

Yes, Dudley could have parried the second super art.

[zer0nix]

this might sound noobish but how the hell do you guys get so good at parrying?

[Bill307]

Practice.

[mackinzie]

you can parry out on the reset other than that good shit.

[Jialat89]

A straight upward jump wouldn't yield a flipping fierce chop, would it? (at 00:03)

[Uesugi90]

I think it depens on wether or not your rising or falling.

[flyingspiral15]

If you parry and attempt to punch, the punch is different as if you were jumping forward to heavy punch. Just try it your self. Jump in the air pressing HP with no parrying, then try auto parry a Chun-Li special and jump and parry the last one. you'll see that she does her karate chop going down instead of turning around side ways doing some weird Makoto shit.

By the way, anyone can auto parry. Aha...

[SheuhX]

Heck no. It does because he parried it in the air. She would done the side karate chop instead of the karate chop going down. Same for Daigo vs Jwong. When he parried the last one in the air. His kick wasn't a high kick. The hk went down. I hope you know what I mean.

[mastadev]

i think you can hold d+f while in the air to do it jumping straight up...anyone know for sure?

[at1withWii]

@Jialat89

After any air parry all aerial moves become a forward or backward version.

[gabeshave]

@Jialat89 the parry yeilds movement

[SheuhX]

Could've went into a stun juggle there from a MK Tsuurgi. Not sure if it would have enough space to go back and forth. Probably just the corner.

[SheuhX]

I don't like that reset. It can be scary.

[myleftsh0e]

well if he wanted to he could start the comno with command grab s.fp instead of j.fp. I think the parrying is just for show. And also gives you the option if someone happens to EX gun you outta the blue

[AirGearHikki]

a smart dudley won't jump in and ex machine gun

[BlakeSparta]

poor dudley T>T

[yohomofo]

can the second super be parried?????? not trying to pick on this, just wanna know.

[Uesugi90]

yes it can but you would have to hit the parry before the 2nd super was let off which is very hard to predict.

[SheuhX]

WAIT! this is kinda like uhhh Crazy Makoto COmbo 7. ummm i never thought it was possible. SO it ONLY works in DUDLEY?

[Uesugi90]

no it works on anyone.

[SheuhX]

can i be able to do it on a ps2 controller? i think arcade might be different than the game.

[IcyCool21]

This was done on a PS2 in training mode.

[Uesugi90]

Xbox actually but they are the same version. As is the arcade.

[INfintido]

stylish

[MuuDood]

Dood...this is the second me I've seen a one-combo KO with Makoto. The first time was when my cousin went to a x3o's tournament last year. He does it differently, but has the same stuff: stun gauge and that special used twice. He made it to the semifinals, and lost to a guy who kept watching his matches, lol. Well, it's about time people are starting to notice Makoto's one-combo KO.

[MuuDood]

Whoops, I meant to say that he could pull off the super special twice in a row while the opponent was still in air, like the one in the video.

[ChicagosWildest]

That was nasty sick and it makes me wanna go on mame and play some 3rd

[kingzabuza]

agh i just realized dudley has a longer stun bar than most ppl, I take back what i said, that combo won't stun him but it will against most chars. For dudley thou u can 100% stun with: j.HP, HP, SAII, dash, (HK kara)dp+MP, dash, dp+LP. Then you can finish him off easy if you have a bar left still. (*srry for all the comments >_<)

[Uesugi90]

Aye i used Dudley to show the potential of this combo if not predicted. On common characters i.e. Chun-li, Ken it will 100% stun them with a normal Karakusa > HP.

[NativeBones]

ill show u an unstoppable combo with dudly that is a stright up lose no matter where u are in the corner or in the middle i can show u how to put it on someon ill make a vid and shot u as soon as i can get a cam lol

[Uesugi90]

How do you mean; using dudley or vs dudley?

[NativeBones]

useing dudley

[Uesugi90]

Aye there are alot of cool juggles with dudley send a video response when you get a video up.

[NativeBones]

np ill have it just give me a sec bc im haveing problems trying to save it like i cant get the vid recorded from my ps2 to my comp

[kingzabuza]

oops, srry forgot to mention the jumpin has to be a HP

[kingzabuza]

np, but juss fyi in case u didn't no, if u manage to start that combo with a jumpin like u did, u'll be able to stun them with a simple dp+HP, sj, qcb+HK after the super. Then, if you still hav a bar u can easily finish them off with the one combo. So in that case you don't need to take the chance with the reset

[kingzabuza]

lmao, wtf is stuck up ur ass swift. Yes he knew it was a reset maybe you should read the other comments be4 u go into a rant. And so what if it's reset, it's called taking chances, welcome to fighting games prick. We've all seen Makoto's classic resets and I personally think this is a pretty kool 1. GJ Uesugi

[Uesugi90]

thankyou king

[Swift198761]

You can't be serious. Do you even KNOW that you reset that? In the first place, when I see the dash, I'll know your scheme, and parry your ass. You're just another kid obsessed with Abare Tosanami to me.

[Uesugi90]

Did i offend you?... If your so upset cose i attemp reset combos please dont search the net for these combos.

[TintoBrassBalls]

Good demo. Your Makoto is pretty mean on xbl - I've been on the end of it a few times. Now stop playing Final Fantasy and and start playing SF3 again.

[Uesugi90]

lol who is this?

[snailtrack]

good stuff bro, thats tough as nails

[kelopohi]

nice...but the combo counter restarted so its not really a full combo...

[Uesugi90]

i know but what are the odds of that being parried ;)

[kelopohi]

pretty good if you have it all planned out - also parrying isn't the hardest thing to do.

[vertoxz123]

i kinda agree with kelopohi only because if u parry that first hit of the special then u wouldnt need to parry the rest...but its still a very sick combo