Claps for him, he has 10 or so years to live now when he is free. Isn't it wonderful - to be able to spend the winter of your life as a free man? No millions will help him. His life is already gone.
Please watch my story"TIFFANY LEBOUEF SEEKS JUSTICE". I have documents to prove my innocence yet no one wants to even acknowledge it. My life has been destroyed.
Look up PRISON STOCKS....very lucrative....WHO ARE THE INVESTORS???
how does someone even adjust to life after having 35 years stolen from them? So much had changed on the outside. Whites are sick and inhumane. This racist 'justice' system is Jim crow like and everyone knows it!
There is no way to have an ounce of faith in the american judicial system, half competent police officers that can barely pass the test, semi competent investigators with limited knowledge and a complete absence of a system of checks and balances before taking away someone's life. Sad
@TheTitaBIGTITTY that's a lie. Blacks are more likely to be targeted and given harsher sentences. Whites are also more likely to have and do drugs yet they are less likely to have their cars pulled over and searched. The entire system is racist.
@TheTitaBIGTITTY that's a lie. Blacks are more likely to be targeted and given harsher sentences. Whites are also more likely to have and do drugs yet they are less likely to have their cars pulled over and searched. The entire system is racist.
@JonGarrett2008 Typical racist statement. Who cares. Now days the white people have no say and the blacks are taking over. If white people had their own month that would be called racist. If we had a white people only dating site that would be racist. Im tired of all the blacks thinking we owe them something. We dont owe anyone shit. We are different people today. Blacks still look at color. Most white people now days look at people as people. The only racist people now days are black.
@singlesxynfree Dude, come on. It was the 1970's, it was a different time. there was no DNA evidence, no tissue samples, and barely any computers. Your blaming the current judicial system even though he was convicted in 1974, get your facts strait before shooting your mouth.
@singlesxynfree If thats true, why is current technology exonerating innocent men and women wrongfully prosecuted. Its true that there are faults in the system, but our system evolves with evolving technology. Hell, maybe sometime in the future when time travel exists, then maybe well have a perfect ssytem due to being able to go back in time and either watching and or preventing crimes from happening. but until then, we have to work with what we have even if its limited.
35 years? The the Florida government should sell off the entire the estate of the prosecutor, judge and any corrupt cops who put him behind bars and the proceeds given to the victim. There is no justice in the USA.
I am sorry for this man. I know how he feel because I am a victim of prosecutorial misconduct too. They need to change the law that give prosecutor inmunity over the mistake they make.
what they need to do is provide compensation for people when there is NO prosecutorial misconduct. too many people sit in jail and are released with nothing but the clothes on their backs and are left alone to pick up the pieces of their lives.
@JonGarrett2008 compensation isnt enough. Being 35 years in prison, at his age, i imagine he spent his whole youth in there, and youth is priceless. it can never be compensated
All wrongly imprisoned 100% inmates are African Americans. It means if you were in wrong place in wrong time but you didn,t commit this crime you are guilty. no chance, prosecutors not gonna make DNA test, witness testimony. IT started 200 years ago when America said that beginning with 1776 its democratic country. so fuck you am,er.ik.a with your democracy , this is the most racist country in the world.
its no surprise to me that most of the people wrongly convicted are black. and when they are found to be innocent, prosecutors and judges sometimes don't want to let them go. take the central park jogger case for example. those 5 young black and hispanic youth were made into monsters by the media, convicted and imprisoned for a crime they did not commit. when they guilty man confessed (backed by his DNA) the prosecutor and detectives still said they were guilty.
@JonGarrett2008 I have heard that before. It has happened in Australia. It is because those who put them behind bars are genuine cowards who cannot face up to the fact they are incompetent or corrupt. The compensation payout should be taken form the estate of those who put them in jail.
My Father’s been in prison the past 12yrs for murdering a business rival. He’s pled innocence all this time & the family are all convinced, relying on me to press the authorities for the case to be reheard.
Thing is, I haven’t actually done a thing because I’m sure he’s guilty- years ago I made an agreement with Police & lawyers to just pretend to campaign to keep the family happy. A formal case review is now happening & everything will come into the open (including my role)- this worries me.
If you feel in your heart that your own father is guilty then there must me some very strong evidence against him as far as YOU are concerned. I dont know what Id do in your situation, I mean damn, my own dad !! I dont know. what about the case review reveals your belief that he's guilty?
Who ever said that Paul was white.If only everyone in this world could have the kind of heart this man has we wouldnt even need prisons much less cops.This man is a walking FACT GOD is very real.The jury back then went on the best evidence they had and im sure they didnt do this intetionally and he knows that and so should we.Of course we feel deeply sad and bad about this who wouldnt.We tend to always want someone to blame.We should all find his address and send him as much love as possible
That man is probably the bravest I ever saw. If I were ever falsely convicted, I'd probably kill myself rather than go to prison, especially if it was for that long.
I hope they are paying him a LOT of money as compensation for being wrongly kept in jail for 35 years. He can never get those years back, but he at least deserves to be able to live the rest of his life in comfort.
last time I heard anything about his compensation, he wasnt getting much....certainly not 35 years worth. If I remember correctly, they only offered him something like 2 million dollars.
@JonGarrett2008 2 million dollars for stealing a man's life? This show how corrupt the system is, bribing him out of decent compensation. Patronising pricks.
The "justice" system is a fucking joke. I hope this man can live the rest of his life in peace .... I can't imagine how much psychological damage the predator prosecutor and judge that sentenced him did to this innocent guy.
Its funny how every time i watch a story involving a man wrongfully convicted hes always BLACK. There are still many who are still doing time for shit they didnt do and while the DNA analysis cost money and takes time i feel there not moving with enough urgency. Then people wounder why blacks have so much animosity towards pigs
It takes time because the DA sometimes stands in the way of letting people out. take the guys in the Central Park case for example. they were convicted, served time and finally, a man confesses to the crime saying he acted alone and they had nothing to do with it AND his DNA matched but the prosecutor in the case along with the detectives who worked the case still insist that they boys they convicted are the ones who committed that crime.
Its not too late because he's still alive (if I was him I would have lost my will to live) imagine if there had been a death penalty? we wouldn't have ever heard anything about this.
In the USA, if you're wrongly convicted and then it comes out that the justice system did a gross error, do you get compensated? I mean something like 500'000$ -1'000'000 per year would be fair in my eyes.
$500,000 - $1Mil a year would most certainly be fair. the Federal Government puts compensation at only $50,000 per year AND you dont get a penny of it unless their was misconduct on the part of the prosecutor. So if you sit in jail for 10 years and there was no misconduct on the part of the prosecutor, you are NOT entitled to any compensation of any sort. AND depending on which state you live in, the arrest stays on your rap sheet....forever !!
Mr. Bain, my respect and admiration for you is vaster than the 5 oceans of this world. You're story should be heard by every American. May you receive all the blessings in the life that you have missed from serving time in prison.
As for the American judicial system: shame on you for taking away 35 years of an innocent man's life. And as for the judge what is there to congratulate him for? I think the judge should have at the very least apologized to Mr. Bain.
in spite of this man's story and many like him, there are still people in this country who still favor the death penalty. take a look at the Casey Anthony case. she may be guilty, she may be innocent. either way, people convicted her based on what they heard in the media, not on the facts.
@JonGarrett2008 I must say that I used to be one of those people who was staunchly pro-death panalty. The operative phrase is "USED TO BE." In principle, I am for putting certain people to death (because they deserve it), however, in practice I am totally opposed to it. Stories like this man's are the reason why I am now totally opposed to capital punishment (in practice). Imagine if he had been sentenced to death and executed and then it was discovered that he was innocent after all... :o(
Im glad you see things differently right now but sadly there are people in this world that are not moved at all by this man's story and would rather put to death 1 innocent person along with 9 guilty persons than to put 9 guilty persons in prison for life.
@JonGarrett2008 Unfortunately, you are probably correct. I used to be staunchly pro death penalty myself when I had the naive belief that the system doesn't make mistakes and innocent people are never convicted. That was until someone that I know was wrongly accused and convicted based purely on "circumstantial evidence" and actually did time before being released/exonerated because new evidence came to light.
@NeededBabyCakez If god were real he wouldn't have let this happen in the first place now would he?
But then as around 9 million kids under 5yr old die every year of disease and malnutrition we can assume god is either impotent or a sadistic prick who visits pain and suffering on a scale that would embarass even the most ambitious phsycopath.
I hope people are as tired of this as I am. Don't just thumbs up a video, do what you can even if that's just a small donation to the innocence foundation. Other things you can do is write/email your Senate/Congress/Governor/Mayor etc. People matter, and peoples opinions like yours CAN change things, but sadly too many won't even try, or try to try at that. So again, if you rather not "waste" your time then please at least toss a buck or two to an organization that is out there fighting for us.
this is why Im against the death penalty., had there been one for this case this man would have been dead and buried and nobody would have ever known or cared.
That man is alot stronger then i am i don't understand how he's so calm he just lost 35 years he'll never get back if it were me that state would owe me big time for that shit
He's a lot stronger than I am also. no amount of money can give him back those 35yrs but he'll probably wind up with only 2 or 3 million dollars because he will choose to settle (because he needs the money now) instead of suing and waiting several years before he gets anything and still have to give a lawyer 33% of it.
Well now its time to do something because research shows more innocent people are going to go jail because everything is now shifting to the victim. Till someone gives a middle finger to those victims rights thugs its just gonna change for the worst
this is a reason to stop victims rights amendments more innocent people are going to go to jail did you know in florida victims have the right to a speedy trial
did you say "victims" have a right to a speedy trial?!?!? are you serious? thats frightening. very troubling if State law trumps the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
@JonGarrett2008 Yep its been that way in florida since 2005 and in california recently since marsys law passed now victims have more say in the before conviction process believe it or not as victims rights is now coming underway and the criminal justice system shifting towards victims now its just gonna get worse
what's wrong with people in FL? first they rig an election now they've voided the bill of rights? not to turn this into a political debate, but is this what it means to be a conservative?
@JonGarrett2008 well time to do something about it I have always been anti victims rights you want them to get justice but to get the right person in most cases victim just wants someone to blame and they will blame the first person they know police are talking to we feel sorry for them but they need to be told to shut the fuck up sometimes cause our laws are too prevent the lynch mob mentallity
people in FL and some of those other states are insane. I never knew such a thing existed but I think if more people hear about this, they too will side with the "victims" and work with them to strip away the rights o the accused.
victims do deserve justice, but not at the expense of basic civil rights guaranteed and protected under the constitution and bill of rights.
@JonGarrett2008 Yes but we are not going to learn till shit gets really out of hand that we are slowly going back to the lynch mob mentallity. The funny thing is victims rights advocates speak from a very revenge point of view they never ever show any consideration towards the innocent in fact some of them have stated they must risk doing that pretty sickening how do I feel sympathy for someone like that
I would say to "victims rights" advocates. "YOU are no different than the criminals and predators. YOU seek have the same empty emotionless soul they have because YOU are willing and in fact eager to make a victim out of another innocent person."
Id also point out to them how often and easy they victimize innocent people.
like when they reveal the identity of an accused rapist but not the "victim" and how man times when the truth comes out, the accused has had his name ruined.
@JonGarrett2008 But guess what no one wants to say fuck you to the victim isn't it pathetic that most crime victims are minorities but these victim advocate morons and rights groups are always white let the accused be convicted first
thanks for letting me know all this. Im glad I learned about something so important. I'll definitely keep an eye out for this type of info from now on.
Ive read that the federal guidelines for wrongful conviction is only $50,000 per year. so according to the federal government this man is entitled to $1,750.000 just under $2 million dollars for 35 years !!
thou hypocrite !!! you have all those "favorites" on your channel about God and the Gospel and you come here and use profanity and racial hatred to express your vies about a man's grave injustice.
people like you give the rest of us (Christians) a bad name. people like you are the reason why so many people are turned off by God, because they see the examples some of us set for him.
@JonGarrett2008 If you are the average Christian in the USA, you too are a hypocrite. Why? Because you walked on the other side of the street and looked the other way whilst you government kidnapped and tortured 900 mostly innocent men without trial in Guantanamo Bay. Your silence is deafening whilst your government keeps the concentration camp open for business. You are a true hypocrite, playing Church rather than fighting for justice.
he will be compensated but not nearly by as much as he should be. besides, how much money is 35 years of your life worth?
this man's case is one of the several reasons why Im opposed to the death penalty and stupid people who speak without thinking. people who have narrow minded and ignorant views about crime and punishment.
there are many cases like his., head over to the innocence project.
He'll probably wind up with about 2-3 million which is what's typically paid out in cases like this. I say he deserves a million for each year he spent in jail PLUS a get out of jail free card which has a 35yr balance on it, he could use it like a debit card. if he commits a crime worth 10yrs in prison, he could use his card to deduct 10yrs from its 35yr balance.
I saw on the news today about another man freed after 30 years for a rape he did not commit. these cases are NOT rare, there are thousands upon thousands of innocent people in American prisons.
Prison for Profit will only make things worse in the coming decades.
money? How much is 35yrs of your life worth? No amount of money can erase decades of pain and suffering or make him a young man again.
When he went to prison there was no personal computer, no cellular phones, no DVD (or VCR) no Internet and thousands of other things that he has never seen before.
This man spent his whole life in prison for something he did not do. Imagine what that does to a person, imagine if that was you, really try hard to imagine that, white/black whatever . No hope, no justice. Just wasting away behind bars THAT was his entire life. He can never get that back. SHAME on the people that convicted him. They ought to spend years behing bars themselves for this massive injustice. Absolute shame.
take a look at the innocence project website, you will see dozens of cases of people who have spent decades behind bars for crimes they did not commit. the worse part of it all is how often prosecutors argue against setting these people free !!
Nelson Mandela guy /why the fuck he looked happy and believed in an idiot called god rather than take a shootgun and finish the dickheads that set him in for so long instead.
because if he had taken a shotgun to the dickheads who put him away for so long, he would go back for the rest of his life and what would that solve?
Nelson Mandela was a way for 27yrs as a political prisoner, this guy was away for 35yrs.
nobody has the answer as to why God would allow these men to suffer. God does things for a reason. sometimes those reasons dont make sense to us or we refuse to accept them.
@xXXdimixx and go back are fucking stupid he just got out and your saying kill the ppl that put him in there so i guess you think life is a movie this aint law abiding citizin this aint the sims its real life why go back get out your fantasy life
@xXXdimixx i think because he had a long time to hate untill he got tired of it.i read somewhere that he stop believeing in God before when he was put in prison but his mom help change his mind when she kept praying for him.
@xXXdimixx i really think tthat if he had shot them and him self than they'll be more careful about sending innocent people to prison.someone needs to send those idiots a message ;p
Dam 35 years smh you can't get them years back but God know why's he allowed him to be in there maybe it was meant for him to touch some people's lives in jail and protect him from some harm on the outside world or just an expiation for his faults before he meets his make who knows
It was kinda fucked up how casual that judge was... he probably didn't do shit wrong but still, even I felt bad watching this. I don't know, shit like this is sad.
And spare a thought for all those guys that got put to death knowing they were innocent!! That's gotta be one helluva trip...
What bothers me is the lack of obvious shame and regret expressed by the judge, all very casual it seemed, I guess it was only 35 years of a black man's life and Dr. Pepper makes up for a lot!!
@JonGarrett2008 You're right, but since there's no way to give Mr.Bain back the 35 years of his life that the state stole from him, the money might help a little.
" the hard part is for us to accept and understand his reasons."
Oh, I see. God is the reason he went to prison for something he didn't do. Wow. What possible beneft could this man have gained from this? A loss of 35 years of his life, and this happened because 'God" had a reason? Are you that indoctrinated? Really? You're as bad a ballplayers. Bills WR Stevie Johnson said he dropped a pass because of God, and Cam Newton won a title because of God. So much stupidity.
@JonGarrett2008 Oh yes, I watched my father die from a heart attack when I was 11 years old when he was 38 years old. My mother suffered from the effects of tuberculosis and a degenerative lung condition most of her life until she died at 50. Thanks God for killing my parents in such a horrid way, leaving my young sister and my sick brother to fend for ourselves. Yes, God is certainly good.
I might add a few more things about God's goodness. My wife got breast cancer and my brother was on dialysis for 8 years without kidneys. My sister got screwed up mentally because of her parents dying when she was a kid. Want some more? My father in law died of motor neurone disease, mother in law died of Hep B, Hep C and diabetes, 2 brothers in law are schizophrenics. All suffer horribly. Yes, God is good and he lets those things happen to us for a reason.
@JonGarrett2008 Explain this... if God is good, why does he let satan kill people to go to heaven? If a child is raped and murdered, it is satanic. So if it was that child's time to die, and staan was behind the killing, does not that mean satan and God are in collusion for the deed to be done? I don't think anyone could answer this... it is a paradox. Like if God was pure and good and perfect why did he create the fallen angel satan? Satan could only have fallen due to a defect.
@creativeengineer Well, every one of God's creations has been given free will. Satan was created by God as an angel. Satan allowed jealousy (he wanted humans to worship him, not God) to corrupt him. That's basically what the whole deal in the Garden of Eden was about. Satan was challenging God's right to rule. He told the first recorded lie to Eve, and she accepted it as truth. The lie was that humans do not need God, they can govern themselves and be better off. God said,
@creativeengineer God said, OK. Give it your best shot. Obviously mankind has failed to rule each other in any true, just and loving way, hence Satan has been proved a liar. Now that it has been established that humans do need God to rule, Satan will soon be destroyed. Obviously there is ton's more to this than these paltry paragraphs, I was just trying to summarize that it was not God who created Satan. Satan had free will and chose to become what he now is.
Yea..............he went to jail for being falsely accused. That was the reason. Quit with all this God crap. If God was around, he wouldn't have gone in the first place.
God really helped him, letting him in prison for 35 years. It's always funny when peoples lives are ruined, it's because of God's infinite love. lolololol
JonGarrett sounds like the religious nut that says God will protect you, then you hear on the news that a pastor got gunned down in his church. Then it's one of the following explanations:
a. It was his time to go.
b. God had a plan for him.
c. He must have done something terrible in his life.
I do believe in God, Im not a religious "nut" and when bad things happen I do give one of the following explanations.
1. it WAS his time to go.
2. God DOES have a plan for all of us
3. It WAS Satan;s fault.
we are human beings, we cannot know the mind of God. NOTHING is random or without purpose. this man spent 35yrs of his life wasting away in some prison, MAYBE God wants to use his suffering to get us to talk about injustices or maybe his pain will save countless others.
"we are human beings, we cannot know the mind of God."
Well obviously YOU do, sitting here preaching and crap. We'll sit you in prison for 35 years for something you didn't do, then we'll claim you're being used as an "example" by God. Let's see you play the God card then. Some people are so ignorant, so quick to play the God card. This man was given 35 years because of human error. No one's God had anything to do with this. (a loving God would have stopped it)
for your information I DID go to jail for something I did NOT do, I spent 3yrs in jail awaiting trial on charges of 2nd degree murder and 1st degree manslaughter. 3 years of my life !! God got me through it, he knows my heart and he knew I was only defending myself YET still, I had to endure 3yrs of incarceration. away from my then 3yr old son, my home, my job, EVERYTHING. ONLY my faith in my God got me through it. 4/1/2006 to 4/24/2009.
" YET still, I had to endure 3yrs of incarceration. away from my then 3yr old son, my home, my job, EVERYTHING. ONLY my faith in my God got me through it."
Yea............too bad the people that got executed, only to find out later they were innocent, didn't get through it because of God huh?
Oh wait, "it was simply their time to go". Or, "God had a plan", or "it was Satan's fault". I'm sure you have the correct answer though.................
you sound like one of those Jesus haters who got hurt at some point in life so now you hold a grudge against the Lord !! too bad for you. its a good thing Jesus has over 2 billion people on this earth who do believe in him. that's one out of ever 3 people on earth. even though he has that many who follow him, YOU are the one he's extending his hand out to.
by the way, its not "too bad for the people who got executed" rather, too bad for those who decided he should die.
" its a good thing Jesus has over 2 billion people on this earth who do believe in him. that's one out of ever 3 people on earth." Yea, and Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. Hate to burst your bubble, but you don't have a monopoly on God. There was a belief in many god before there was a belief in one. You seriously need to put the Bible down and study religious history. I bet you think the Bible is straight from God, to the authors, to us. lol
@JonGarrett2008 "I saw on the news today about another man freed after 30 years for a rape he did not commit. these cases are NOT rare, there are thousands upon thousands of innocent people in American prisons."
"God allows things to happen for a reason".
See how you destroy your own argument? You're sympathetic against what you perceive as God's will. But people like you never wake up. You simply continue believing all the lies of the truth. It's really sad.
Im proud to play the God card, God has gotten me through every trial in life and he forever watches over me. God will not cease to exist just because people like you don't want to believe in him. you can keep your science, your big bang theory and your belief that men came from monkeys, I'll keep my Jesus. :-)
This is going to be fun. First, I don't believe in the Big Bang Theory or man coming from monkeys. Nice ignorant assumption rant. Second, when you get sick
I hope he at least got compensated for the rest of his life. In jail with rapist and murders for 35 years. I'd go crazy.
ghostfase 12 hours ago
he should have gotten millions
GameRelatedStuff 3 days ago
DUDE I WOULD BE PISSED
ErickLazcon4 6 days ago
they should give the homi some fuckin money for that shit...
Jasonbjamin 6 days ago
average $40,000 per year over 35 years he should get at least 1.4million...but no amount of money comes close to the time he's lost.
Chris28456 1 week ago
all I have to say is: 1 Billion dollars x 35 years = Compensation!!
Thats what it should be
illmaticice1989 1 week ago
Claps for him, he has 10 or so years to live now when he is free. Isn't it wonderful - to be able to spend the winter of your life as a free man? No millions will help him. His life is already gone.
koisumaz2000 2 weeks ago
I WOULD SUE THE FUCK OUT OF THEM!!!...IM BE A MOTHERFUCKIN BILLIONAIRE!!..YOU TOOK 35 YRS OF MY LIFE 4 A CRIME I DIDNT COMMIT
JaysBabygirl2734 2 weeks ago
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Please watch my story"TIFFANY LEBOUEF SEEKS JUSTICE". I have documents to prove my innocence yet no one wants to even acknowledge it. My life has been destroyed.
Look up PRISON STOCKS....very lucrative....WHO ARE THE INVESTORS???
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joanarc1111 2 weeks ago
cha ching! its gona be rich!
juki0h 2 weeks ago 2
good for him!
Kylejerkface 2 weeks ago
They can buy soda in prison..I dont think that was a surprise.
miken23barnett 3 weeks ago
oh yeah we are sorry you're a freeeeeeeeeee man Thanks you very much
zzztubazzz 3 weeks ago
how does someone even adjust to life after having 35 years stolen from them? So much had changed on the outside. Whites are sick and inhumane. This racist 'justice' system is Jim crow like and everyone knows it!
purplefashion03 3 weeks ago 2
nice guys finish last
alvidaiwoveyou 1 month ago
There is no way to have an ounce of faith in the american judicial system, half competent police officers that can barely pass the test, semi competent investigators with limited knowledge and a complete absence of a system of checks and balances before taking away someone's life. Sad
singlesxynfree 1 month ago 6
@singlesxynfree
the saddest part is that these kinds of things seem to only happen to Blacks. you rarely, rarely hear of a white man being wrongly convicted.
JonGarrett2008 1 month ago 2
@JonGarrett2008 David Dowaliby
JSimm87 1 month ago
@JonGarrett2008
The dignity of this man is what struck me most.No amount of compensation can give back those lost years.
sally11110 3 weeks ago
@JonGarrett2008 exactly
purplefashion03 3 weeks ago
@JonGarrett2008 That maybe because blacks are over represented in the jails because they break the law more frequently.
TheTitaBIGTITTY 3 weeks ago
@TheTitaBIGTITTY that's a lie. Blacks are more likely to be targeted and given harsher sentences. Whites are also more likely to have and do drugs yet they are less likely to have their cars pulled over and searched. The entire system is racist.
tackfornow4 1 week ago
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@TheTitaBIGTITTY that's a lie. Blacks are more likely to be targeted and given harsher sentences. Whites are also more likely to have and do drugs yet they are less likely to have their cars pulled over and searched. The entire system is racist.
tackfornow4 1 week ago
@JonGarrett2008 Typical racist statement. Who cares. Now days the white people have no say and the blacks are taking over. If white people had their own month that would be called racist. If we had a white people only dating site that would be racist. Im tired of all the blacks thinking we owe them something. We dont owe anyone shit. We are different people today. Blacks still look at color. Most white people now days look at people as people. The only racist people now days are black.
miken23barnett 3 weeks ago
@singlesxynfree Dude, come on. It was the 1970's, it was a different time. there was no DNA evidence, no tissue samples, and barely any computers. Your blaming the current judicial system even though he was convicted in 1974, get your facts strait before shooting your mouth.
supercj12 1 week ago
@supercj12 And the same things still occur today (yes February 2012) despite the technology, your platform can only b as strong as your foundation...
singlesxynfree 1 week ago
@singlesxynfree If thats true, why is current technology exonerating innocent men and women wrongfully prosecuted. Its true that there are faults in the system, but our system evolves with evolving technology. Hell, maybe sometime in the future when time travel exists, then maybe well have a perfect ssytem due to being able to go back in time and either watching and or preventing crimes from happening. but until then, we have to work with what we have even if its limited.
supercj12 1 week ago
35 years? The the Florida government should sell off the entire the estate of the prosecutor, judge and any corrupt cops who put him behind bars and the proceeds given to the victim. There is no justice in the USA.
creativeengineer 1 month ago
Took 35 years, law ?
frankjc22 1 month ago
What I find even more amazing is the fact that he still has faith in 'god'
I used to believe in god, then I discovered the internet, I am now an athiest
longboat12345 1 month ago
I am sorry for this man. I know how he feel because I am a victim of prosecutorial misconduct too. They need to change the law that give prosecutor inmunity over the mistake they make.
MrMorales34 1 month ago
@MrMorales34
what they need to do is provide compensation for people when there is NO prosecutorial misconduct. too many people sit in jail and are released with nothing but the clothes on their backs and are left alone to pick up the pieces of their lives.
JonGarrett2008 1 month ago 3
@JonGarrett2008 compensation isnt enough. Being 35 years in prison, at his age, i imagine he spent his whole youth in there, and youth is priceless. it can never be compensated
vibol03 1 month ago
I hope he gets one hell of a paycheck for this
matrix1093 1 month ago
@matrix1093
about $2 Million max if he accepts their offer. if he sued, it would take years (while Im sure he has the patience, does he have the years left)
JonGarrett2008 1 month ago
All wrongly imprisoned 100% inmates are African Americans. It means if you were in wrong place in wrong time but you didn,t commit this crime you are guilty. no chance, prosecutors not gonna make DNA test, witness testimony. IT started 200 years ago when America said that beginning with 1776 its democratic country. so fuck you am,er.ik.a with your democracy , this is the most racist country in the world.
bostonskiy1 2 months ago 3
@bostonskiy1
its no surprise to me that most of the people wrongly convicted are black. and when they are found to be innocent, prosecutors and judges sometimes don't want to let them go. take the central park jogger case for example. those 5 young black and hispanic youth were made into monsters by the media, convicted and imprisoned for a crime they did not commit. when they guilty man confessed (backed by his DNA) the prosecutor and detectives still said they were guilty.
JonGarrett2008 2 months ago
@JonGarrett2008 I have heard that before. It has happened in Australia. It is because those who put them behind bars are genuine cowards who cannot face up to the fact they are incompetent or corrupt. The compensation payout should be taken form the estate of those who put them in jail.
creativeengineer 1 month ago
wow...now what?
GianiHanes2010 2 months ago
My Father’s been in prison the past 12yrs for murdering a business rival. He’s pled innocence all this time & the family are all convinced, relying on me to press the authorities for the case to be reheard.
Thing is, I haven’t actually done a thing because I’m sure he’s guilty- years ago I made an agreement with Police & lawyers to just pretend to campaign to keep the family happy. A formal case review is now happening & everything will come into the open (including my role)- this worries me.
SuperTruth77 3 months ago
@SuperTruth77
If you feel in your heart that your own father is guilty then there must me some very strong evidence against him as far as YOU are concerned. I dont know what Id do in your situation, I mean damn, my own dad !! I dont know. what about the case review reveals your belief that he's guilty?
JonGarrett2008 3 months ago
@SuperTruth77 What happened to innocence until proven guilty. The USA is indeed bankrupt in every sense of the word.
creativeengineer 1 month ago
Who ever said that Paul was white.If only everyone in this world could have the kind of heart this man has we wouldnt even need prisons much less cops.This man is a walking FACT GOD is very real.The jury back then went on the best evidence they had and im sure they didnt do this intetionally and he knows that and so should we.Of course we feel deeply sad and bad about this who wouldnt.We tend to always want someone to blame.We should all find his address and send him as much love as possible
HaroldWillett 3 months ago
I hope he is made a billionaire.
oceanborn333 3 months ago
"I'm free mutha fuckas!"
TheLoveNotWar1000 3 months ago
That man is probably the bravest I ever saw. If I were ever falsely convicted, I'd probably kill myself rather than go to prison, especially if it was for that long.
Paull5823 4 months ago
@Paull5823
It takes super human strength to endure what he did. 99.99% of all people would not survive that experience.
JonGarrett2008 3 months ago
What recourse is there against the prosecutor who put him there?
briantotse3 4 months ago
@briantotse3 Non. The Prosecutor died ten years ago from old age.. He retired twenty years ago.
2tur 3 months ago
I would of said this: "Yeah thats right you fucking dickheads, i didnt do it? suck my dick". then i would have done a dance
vTrickeh 4 months ago
Hell, the moment that judge said "you're a free man" i would have run to that prosecutor and ripped his head off. Then i'd let em' jail me again.
TEDOVSKY 4 months ago 10
@TEDOVSKY
if you had done that and I was a new judge, Id sentence you to time served.
JonGarrett2008 4 months ago 2
@TEDOVSKY LMAO HAHAHA
LAPINGUINATWITCH 3 months ago
@TEDOVSKY It would be easier just to make sure the original prosecutor had a bad accident when no-one was around.
creativeengineer 1 month ago
He looks pretty happy and well groomed. His teeth are whiter than mine.
Jeville42135 4 months ago
I hope they are paying him a LOT of money as compensation for being wrongly kept in jail for 35 years. He can never get those years back, but he at least deserves to be able to live the rest of his life in comfort.
paulph12002 5 months ago 3
@paulph12002
last time I heard anything about his compensation, he wasnt getting much....certainly not 35 years worth. If I remember correctly, they only offered him something like 2 million dollars.
JonGarrett2008 5 months ago
@JonGarrett2008 2 million dollars for stealing a man's life? This show how corrupt the system is, bribing him out of decent compensation. Patronising pricks.
creativeengineer 1 month ago
The "justice" system is a fucking joke. I hope this man can live the rest of his life in peace .... I can't imagine how much psychological damage the predator prosecutor and judge that sentenced him did to this innocent guy.
spamllpitdept 5 months ago
@spamllpitdept
they should have been prosecuted as well., but 35 years later are they even still alive?
JonGarrett2008 5 months ago
@JonGarrett2008 If they are not alive, their estate should be garnished of millions of dollars for payment.
creativeengineer 1 month ago
That truly is a good man, but if I got put in jail for 35 fucking years for something i didnt do i would have fucked that judge up
PrestonTheKoalaBear 5 months ago
Its funny how every time i watch a story involving a man wrongfully convicted hes always BLACK. There are still many who are still doing time for shit they didnt do and while the DNA analysis cost money and takes time i feel there not moving with enough urgency. Then people wounder why blacks have so much animosity towards pigs
kinglbkiv 5 months ago
@kinglbkiv
It takes time because the DA sometimes stands in the way of letting people out. take the guys in the Central Park case for example. they were convicted, served time and finally, a man confesses to the crime saying he acted alone and they had nothing to do with it AND his DNA matched but the prosecutor in the case along with the detectives who worked the case still insist that they boys they convicted are the ones who committed that crime.
you hear about the black man in Texas?
JonGarrett2008 5 months ago
i love how the song "too late to apolagize- timberland" is on my tv right now. how ironic :P
GameWasSucess 5 months ago
@GameWasSucess
Its not too late because he's still alive (if I was him I would have lost my will to live) imagine if there had been a death penalty? we wouldn't have ever heard anything about this.
JonGarrett2008 5 months ago 3
In the USA, if you're wrongly convicted and then it comes out that the justice system did a gross error, do you get compensated? I mean something like 500'000$ -1'000'000 per year would be fair in my eyes.
AgimA74 6 months ago
@AgimA74
$500,000 - $1Mil a year would most certainly be fair. the Federal Government puts compensation at only $50,000 per year AND you dont get a penny of it unless their was misconduct on the part of the prosecutor. So if you sit in jail for 10 years and there was no misconduct on the part of the prosecutor, you are NOT entitled to any compensation of any sort. AND depending on which state you live in, the arrest stays on your rap sheet....forever !!
JonGarrett2008 6 months ago
@JonGarrett2008 Justice is to make sure those who wrongfully put you in jail have "an accident".
creativeengineer 1 month ago
What a nice man ! I would have been really bitter, he is an inspiration, & I wish him the best.
leukendo 7 months ago
Mr. Bain, my respect and admiration for you is vaster than the 5 oceans of this world. You're story should be heard by every American. May you receive all the blessings in the life that you have missed from serving time in prison.
As for the American judicial system: shame on you for taking away 35 years of an innocent man's life. And as for the judge what is there to congratulate him for? I think the judge should have at the very least apologized to Mr. Bain.
Mistahyu 7 months ago
@Mistahyu
in spite of this man's story and many like him, there are still people in this country who still favor the death penalty. take a look at the Casey Anthony case. she may be guilty, she may be innocent. either way, people convicted her based on what they heard in the media, not on the facts.
JonGarrett2008 7 months ago
@JonGarrett2008 I must say that I used to be one of those people who was staunchly pro-death panalty. The operative phrase is "USED TO BE." In principle, I am for putting certain people to death (because they deserve it), however, in practice I am totally opposed to it. Stories like this man's are the reason why I am now totally opposed to capital punishment (in practice). Imagine if he had been sentenced to death and executed and then it was discovered that he was innocent after all... :o(
StevenE1972 6 months ago
@StevenE1972
Im glad you see things differently right now but sadly there are people in this world that are not moved at all by this man's story and would rather put to death 1 innocent person along with 9 guilty persons than to put 9 guilty persons in prison for life.
JonGarrett2008 6 months ago
@JonGarrett2008 Unfortunately, you are probably correct. I used to be staunchly pro death penalty myself when I had the naive belief that the system doesn't make mistakes and innocent people are never convicted. That was until someone that I know was wrongly accused and convicted based purely on "circumstantial evidence" and actually did time before being released/exonerated because new evidence came to light.
typhon3808 6 months ago
"And after 35 years Science proved him right." *Gets out of jail* "I would like to thank god."
NeededBabyCakez 7 months ago 13
@NeededBabyCakez
"science" proved hm right but he thanks God. but man put him there so what exactly are you trying to say?
JonGarrett2008 7 months ago
@NeededBabyCakez If god were real he wouldn't have let this happen in the first place now would he?
But then as around 9 million kids under 5yr old die every year of disease and malnutrition we can assume god is either impotent or a sadistic prick who visits pain and suffering on a scale that would embarass even the most ambitious phsycopath.
TheTitaBIGTITTY 3 weeks ago
I hope people are as tired of this as I am. Don't just thumbs up a video, do what you can even if that's just a small donation to the innocence foundation. Other things you can do is write/email your Senate/Congress/Governor/Mayor etc. People matter, and peoples opinions like yours CAN change things, but sadly too many won't even try, or try to try at that. So again, if you rather not "waste" your time then please at least toss a buck or two to an organization that is out there fighting for us.
Danbo342 8 months ago
I'm sorry doesn't mean shit after putting an innocent person in jail for that many years
FluffMaster101 8 months ago
@FluffMaster101
this is why Im against the death penalty., had there been one for this case this man would have been dead and buried and nobody would have ever known or cared.
JonGarrett2008 8 months ago
That man is alot stronger then i am i don't understand how he's so calm he just lost 35 years he'll never get back if it were me that state would owe me big time for that shit
neighsmitty 9 months ago
@neighsmitty
He's a lot stronger than I am also. no amount of money can give him back those 35yrs but he'll probably wind up with only 2 or 3 million dollars because he will choose to settle (because he needs the money now) instead of suing and waiting several years before he gets anything and still have to give a lawyer 33% of it.
JonGarrett2008 8 months ago
Yet another heart breaking story you need the eye of God to get the right call every time when a person judges see why the lady has a blindfold on.
timerready21 9 months ago
@timerready21
this is worse than heartbreaking. its a shame, shame on the people who did this to him.
JonGarrett2008 9 months ago
Well now its time to do something because research shows more innocent people are going to go jail because everything is now shifting to the victim. Till someone gives a middle finger to those victims rights thugs its just gonna change for the worst
flimmaker04 10 months ago
this is a reason to stop victims rights amendments more innocent people are going to go to jail did you know in florida victims have the right to a speedy trial
flimmaker04 10 months ago
@flimmaker04
did you say "victims" have a right to a speedy trial?!?!? are you serious? thats frightening. very troubling if State law trumps the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
JonGarrett2008 10 months ago
@JonGarrett2008 Yep its been that way in florida since 2005 and in california recently since marsys law passed now victims have more say in the before conviction process believe it or not as victims rights is now coming underway and the criminal justice system shifting towards victims now its just gonna get worse
flimmaker04 10 months ago
@flimmaker04
what's wrong with people in FL? first they rig an election now they've voided the bill of rights? not to turn this into a political debate, but is this what it means to be a conservative?
JonGarrett2008 10 months ago
@JonGarrett2008 well time to do something about it I have always been anti victims rights you want them to get justice but to get the right person in most cases victim just wants someone to blame and they will blame the first person they know police are talking to we feel sorry for them but they need to be told to shut the fuck up sometimes cause our laws are too prevent the lynch mob mentallity
flimmaker04 10 months ago
@flimmaker04
people in FL and some of those other states are insane. I never knew such a thing existed but I think if more people hear about this, they too will side with the "victims" and work with them to strip away the rights o the accused.
victims do deserve justice, but not at the expense of basic civil rights guaranteed and protected under the constitution and bill of rights.
JonGarrett2008 10 months ago
@JonGarrett2008 Yes but we are not going to learn till shit gets really out of hand that we are slowly going back to the lynch mob mentallity. The funny thing is victims rights advocates speak from a very revenge point of view they never ever show any consideration towards the innocent in fact some of them have stated they must risk doing that pretty sickening how do I feel sympathy for someone like that
flimmaker04 10 months ago
@flimmaker04
I would say to "victims rights" advocates. "YOU are no different than the criminals and predators. YOU seek have the same empty emotionless soul they have because YOU are willing and in fact eager to make a victim out of another innocent person."
Id also point out to them how often and easy they victimize innocent people.
like when they reveal the identity of an accused rapist but not the "victim" and how man times when the truth comes out, the accused has had his name ruined.
JonGarrett2008 10 months ago
@JonGarrett2008 But guess what no one wants to say fuck you to the victim isn't it pathetic that most crime victims are minorities but these victim advocate morons and rights groups are always white let the accused be convicted first
flimmaker04 10 months ago
@flimmaker04
thanks for letting me know all this. Im glad I learned about something so important. I'll definitely keep an eye out for this type of info from now on.
JonGarrett2008 10 months ago
@TheMURDERVILLE
Ive read that the federal guidelines for wrongful conviction is only $50,000 per year. so according to the federal government this man is entitled to $1,750.000 just under $2 million dollars for 35 years !!
JonGarrett2008 10 months ago
mountain dew and dr. pepper??..id prolly wanna smack the shit outta that dude for whippin it out a plastic bag like a hoe
gymkrow 10 months ago
SHOULD GIVE HIM LIFE FOR FUCKING WITH A WHITE WOMEN...
akaknocksville 10 months ago
@akaknocksville
thou hypocrite !!! you have all those "favorites" on your channel about God and the Gospel and you come here and use profanity and racial hatred to express your vies about a man's grave injustice.
people like you give the rest of us (Christians) a bad name. people like you are the reason why so many people are turned off by God, because they see the examples some of us set for him.
shame on you.
JonGarrett2008 10 months ago
@JonGarrett2008 If you are the average Christian in the USA, you too are a hypocrite. Why? Because you walked on the other side of the street and looked the other way whilst you government kidnapped and tortured 900 mostly innocent men without trial in Guantanamo Bay. Your silence is deafening whilst your government keeps the concentration camp open for business. You are a true hypocrite, playing Church rather than fighting for justice.
creativeengineer 1 month ago
1.75 million dollars is way not enough for this man to spend 35 years in that hell hole. God bless him
mynameisjamesj 11 months ago
WoW how does this man get compensated for all of that time in prison & the peril his life was in as a convicted child rapist / kidnapper?
Who picks up the tab on that debt?
Jamie Bain's story is an unfathomable nightmare,my heart goes out to him.
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farronx 11 months ago
@farronx
he will be compensated but not nearly by as much as he should be. besides, how much money is 35 years of your life worth?
this man's case is one of the several reasons why Im opposed to the death penalty and stupid people who speak without thinking. people who have narrow minded and ignorant views about crime and punishment.
there are many cases like his., head over to the innocence project.
JonGarrett2008 11 months ago
@JonGarrett008
I think you sadly mistook that comment & those rhetorical questions literally.
My intent was simply to offer food for thought on a solution to this widely prevalent problem in our legal system not to condemn the death penalty.
(As a side note I hardheartedly agree w/ the death penalty)
Anyone that was alive & in the know of OJ (or has a TV for that matter) is familiar w/ Barry Scheck & the "innocence project".
We very well know the woes MAN now we need remedies.
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farronx 11 months ago
god bless thee.
jaime0075 11 months ago
@HoopsEntertainment
He'll probably wind up with about 2-3 million which is what's typically paid out in cases like this. I say he deserves a million for each year he spent in jail PLUS a get out of jail free card which has a 35yr balance on it, he could use it like a debit card. if he commits a crime worth 10yrs in prison, he could use his card to deduct 10yrs from its 35yr balance.
JonGarrett2008 1 year ago
@107bomb
unfortunately, if I was him Id choose to die also. thank God Im not him.
JonGarrett2008 1 year ago
God <3 :P
AwsomeB0y 1 year ago
FUCK THE GOVERNMENT, FUCK THE POLICE
sha3bmsr 1 year ago
@sha3bmsr
I saw on the news today about another man freed after 30 years for a rape he did not commit. these cases are NOT rare, there are thousands upon thousands of innocent people in American prisons.
Prison for Profit will only make things worse in the coming decades.
JonGarrett2008 1 year ago
huh i thought that he had receive money after spending years behind bars.WTH where's the money!
cherri7 1 year ago
@cherri7
money? How much is 35yrs of your life worth? No amount of money can erase decades of pain and suffering or make him a young man again.
When he went to prison there was no personal computer, no cellular phones, no DVD (or VCR) no Internet and thousands of other things that he has never seen before.
JonGarrett2008 1 year ago
35 years? That's messed up.
paperorpaper 1 year ago
POOOOOOOOOR GUY THAT REALLY SUCKSSSSSS
Blackjesus3 1 year ago
This man spent his whole life in prison for something he did not do. Imagine what that does to a person, imagine if that was you, really try hard to imagine that, white/black whatever . No hope, no justice. Just wasting away behind bars THAT was his entire life. He can never get that back. SHAME on the people that convicted him. They ought to spend years behing bars themselves for this massive injustice. Absolute shame.
RomeoRiot 1 year ago 2
@RomeoRiot
take a look at the innocence project website, you will see dozens of cases of people who have spent decades behind bars for crimes they did not commit. the worse part of it all is how often prosecutors argue against setting these people free !!
JonGarrett2008 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Because he is black
Wisdombluetooth 1 year ago
Nelson Mandela guy /why the fuck he looked happy and believed in an idiot called god rather than take a shootgun and finish the dickheads that set him in for so long instead.
xXXdimixx 1 year ago
@xXXdimixx
because if he had taken a shotgun to the dickheads who put him away for so long, he would go back for the rest of his life and what would that solve?
Nelson Mandela was a way for 27yrs as a political prisoner, this guy was away for 35yrs.
nobody has the answer as to why God would allow these men to suffer. God does things for a reason. sometimes those reasons dont make sense to us or we refuse to accept them.
JonGarrett2008 1 year ago
@JonGarrett2008 Sure yeeeah Ned Flanders
xXXdimixx 1 year ago
@JonGarrett2008 Read Job, and you have the answer. God wants you to suffer because he loves you.
creativeengineer 1 month ago
@xXXdimixx and go back are fucking stupid he just got out and your saying kill the ppl that put him in there so i guess you think life is a movie this aint law abiding citizin this aint the sims its real life why go back get out your fantasy life
dhsrun 1 year ago
@xXXdimixx I agree! Youy're life is already gone. Finish those fucks then off yourself. No one could blame you. No god!
ObamaTheRealLoser 1 year ago
@xXXdimixx i think because he had a long time to hate untill he got tired of it.i read somewhere that he stop believeing in God before when he was put in prison but his mom help change his mind when she kept praying for him.
cherri7 1 year ago
@xXXdimixx i really think tthat if he had shot them and him self than they'll be more careful about sending innocent people to prison.someone needs to send those idiots a message ;p
cherri7 1 year ago
man its sad to see people who had nothing to do with the crime go to jail
SuperMrCRAZYMAN 1 year ago
@SuperMrCRAZYMAN
whats more sad is that you have so many people in our society who are pro-death penalty despite the FACT that things like this happen quite often.
JonGarrett2008 1 year ago
well that sucks
freetoskate4life 1 year ago
Does he get compensation for all those years he served innocently behind those bars ?
utah65 1 year ago
@utah65
I'm sure he will be but how much is 35 years of some one's life worth?
JonGarrett2008 1 year ago
Does he gets compensated for all those years he's behind bars ?
utah65 1 year ago
Dam 35 years smh you can't get them years back but God know why's he allowed him to be in there maybe it was meant for him to touch some people's lives in jail and protect him from some harm on the outside world or just an expiation for his faults before he meets his make who knows
Blackseed1978 1 year ago
It was kinda fucked up how casual that judge was... he probably didn't do shit wrong but still, even I felt bad watching this. I don't know, shit like this is sad.
EsNR1 1 year ago
And spare a thought for all those guys that got put to death knowing they were innocent!! That's gotta be one helluva trip...
What bothers me is the lack of obvious shame and regret expressed by the judge, all very casual it seemed, I guess it was only 35 years of a black man's life and Dr. Pepper makes up for a lot!!
robotak 1 year ago
It's f%cked up this happens and even more f%cked up how often to black men. :(
totaljett 1 year ago 2
@totaljett
here in NY they just let another guy go after serving 15 years. evidence in his favor was withheld by the prosecutor.
JonGarrett2008 1 year ago
@JonGarrett2008 That's terrible and just imagine those that are still locked up or died in prison that may have been innocent.
totaljett 1 year ago
that poor fuckin guy
suzcaddi 1 year ago
@suzcaddi
Well he'll be a rich poor fucking guy after any lawsuits. Still, all the money in the world can't bring those 35 years back.
JonGarrett2008 1 year ago
@JonGarrett2008 You're right, but since there's no way to give Mr.Bain back the 35 years of his life that the state stole from him, the money might help a little.
mannecyberguy 4 months ago
God is so good. everything happens for a reason. this video brings tears to my eyes
calliope4444 1 year ago
@calliope4444
God certainly is good and things do happen for a reason, the hard part is for us to accept and understand his reasons.
JonGarrett2008 1 year ago
@JonGarrett2008
" the hard part is for us to accept and understand his reasons."
Oh, I see. God is the reason he went to prison for something he didn't do. Wow. What possible beneft could this man have gained from this? A loss of 35 years of his life, and this happened because 'God" had a reason? Are you that indoctrinated? Really? You're as bad a ballplayers. Bills WR Stevie Johnson said he dropped a pass because of God, and Cam Newton won a title because of God. So much stupidity.
highwater03 1 year ago
@JonGarrett2008 Oh yes, I watched my father die from a heart attack when I was 11 years old when he was 38 years old. My mother suffered from the effects of tuberculosis and a degenerative lung condition most of her life until she died at 50. Thanks God for killing my parents in such a horrid way, leaving my young sister and my sick brother to fend for ourselves. Yes, God is certainly good.
creativeengineer 1 month ago
I might add a few more things about God's goodness. My wife got breast cancer and my brother was on dialysis for 8 years without kidneys. My sister got screwed up mentally because of her parents dying when she was a kid. Want some more? My father in law died of motor neurone disease, mother in law died of Hep B, Hep C and diabetes, 2 brothers in law are schizophrenics. All suffer horribly. Yes, God is good and he lets those things happen to us for a reason.
creativeengineer 1 month ago
@JonGarrett2008 Explain this... if God is good, why does he let satan kill people to go to heaven? If a child is raped and murdered, it is satanic. So if it was that child's time to die, and staan was behind the killing, does not that mean satan and God are in collusion for the deed to be done? I don't think anyone could answer this... it is a paradox. Like if God was pure and good and perfect why did he create the fallen angel satan? Satan could only have fallen due to a defect.
creativeengineer 1 month ago
@creativeengineer Well, every one of God's creations has been given free will. Satan was created by God as an angel. Satan allowed jealousy (he wanted humans to worship him, not God) to corrupt him. That's basically what the whole deal in the Garden of Eden was about. Satan was challenging God's right to rule. He told the first recorded lie to Eve, and she accepted it as truth. The lie was that humans do not need God, they can govern themselves and be better off. God said,
lyricsma 1 month ago
@creativeengineer God said, OK. Give it your best shot. Obviously mankind has failed to rule each other in any true, just and loving way, hence Satan has been proved a liar. Now that it has been established that humans do need God to rule, Satan will soon be destroyed. Obviously there is ton's more to this than these paltry paragraphs, I was just trying to summarize that it was not God who created Satan. Satan had free will and chose to become what he now is.
lyricsma 1 month ago
@calliope4444
Yea..............he went to jail for being falsely accused. That was the reason. Quit with all this God crap. If God was around, he wouldn't have gone in the first place.
highwater03 1 year ago
@calliope4444 If God is so good, why did he create satan?
creativeengineer 1 month ago
God really helped him, letting him in prison for 35 years. It's always funny when peoples lives are ruined, it's because of God's infinite love. lolololol
eviltube1111 1 year ago
@eviltube1111
peoples lives are not ruined by Go's infinite love, he allows things to happen for a purpose. sometimes we dont understand that purpose.
JonGarrett2008 1 year ago
@JonGarrett2008
" he allows things to happen for a purpose. sometimes we dont understand that purpose."
Wow. Just wow.
highwater03 1 year ago
@eviltube1111
JonGarrett sounds like the religious nut that says God will protect you, then you hear on the news that a pastor got gunned down in his church. Then it's one of the following explanations:
a. It was his time to go.
b. God had a plan for him.
c. He must have done something terrible in his life.
d. It was Satan's fault.
Stupidity, that's what that is.
highwater03 1 year ago
@highwater03
I do believe in God, Im not a religious "nut" and when bad things happen I do give one of the following explanations.
1. it WAS his time to go.
2. God DOES have a plan for all of us
3. It WAS Satan;s fault.
we are human beings, we cannot know the mind of God. NOTHING is random or without purpose. this man spent 35yrs of his life wasting away in some prison, MAYBE God wants to use his suffering to get us to talk about injustices or maybe his pain will save countless others.
JonGarrett2008 1 year ago
@JonGarrett2008
"we are human beings, we cannot know the mind of God."
Well obviously YOU do, sitting here preaching and crap. We'll sit you in prison for 35 years for something you didn't do, then we'll claim you're being used as an "example" by God. Let's see you play the God card then. Some people are so ignorant, so quick to play the God card. This man was given 35 years because of human error. No one's God had anything to do with this. (a loving God would have stopped it)
highwater03 1 year ago
@highwater03
for your information I DID go to jail for something I did NOT do, I spent 3yrs in jail awaiting trial on charges of 2nd degree murder and 1st degree manslaughter. 3 years of my life !! God got me through it, he knows my heart and he knew I was only defending myself YET still, I had to endure 3yrs of incarceration. away from my then 3yr old son, my home, my job, EVERYTHING. ONLY my faith in my God got me through it. 4/1/2006 to 4/24/2009.
God is awesome !! :-)
JonGarrett2008 1 year ago
@JonGarrett2008
" YET still, I had to endure 3yrs of incarceration. away from my then 3yr old son, my home, my job, EVERYTHING. ONLY my faith in my God got me through it."
Yea............too bad the people that got executed, only to find out later they were innocent, didn't get through it because of God huh?
Oh wait, "it was simply their time to go". Or, "God had a plan", or "it was Satan's fault". I'm sure you have the correct answer though.................
highwater03 1 year ago
@highwater03
you sound like one of those Jesus haters who got hurt at some point in life so now you hold a grudge against the Lord !! too bad for you. its a good thing Jesus has over 2 billion people on this earth who do believe in him. that's one out of ever 3 people on earth. even though he has that many who follow him, YOU are the one he's extending his hand out to.
by the way, its not "too bad for the people who got executed" rather, too bad for those who decided he should die.
JonGarrett2008 1 year ago
@JonGarrett2008
" its a good thing Jesus has over 2 billion people on this earth who do believe in him. that's one out of ever 3 people on earth." Yea, and Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. Hate to burst your bubble, but you don't have a monopoly on God. There was a belief in many god before there was a belief in one. You seriously need to put the Bible down and study religious history. I bet you think the Bible is straight from God, to the authors, to us. lol
highwater03 1 year ago
@JonGarrett2008 "I saw on the news today about another man freed after 30 years for a rape he did not commit. these cases are NOT rare, there are thousands upon thousands of innocent people in American prisons."
"God allows things to happen for a reason".
See how you destroy your own argument? You're sympathetic against what you perceive as God's will. But people like you never wake up. You simply continue believing all the lies of the truth. It's really sad.
highwater03 1 year ago
@JonGarrett2008
Quit being sad over God's will.
highwater03 1 year ago
@JonGarrett2008
Quit being ignorant playing the God card all the time. It's stupid and played out. Try joining us in 2011.
highwater03 1 year ago
@highwater03
Im proud to play the God card, God has gotten me through every trial in life and he forever watches over me. God will not cease to exist just because people like you don't want to believe in him. you can keep your science, your big bang theory and your belief that men came from monkeys, I'll keep my Jesus. :-)
JonGarrett2008 1 year ago
@JonGarrett2008
This is going to be fun. First, I don't believe in the Big Bang Theory or man coming from monkeys. Nice ignorant assumption rant. Second, when you get sick