there is a man wearing a white baseball cap standing close to 3 horizontal railings. 1 railing passes behind him and 1 in front of him. Seeing as he is standing straight and wearing a back pack we can see that he ahs been added to the frame. Now if the powers that be are faking pictures to show us don't you think perhaps its right to question their version of events?
There are also dozens more inconsistencies with the "4 muslims" theory
I dont like this blanket conspiracy theorist term. We should look at the definition of the word conspiracy. 1)A secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful. 2) The action of plotting or conspiring.
So by this definition you are a conspiracy theorist if you beleive the official report also. You are part of the "4 young muslims outwit British intelligence community" conspiracy theory.
Secondly the image released of the "4 attackers" entering Luton station is OBVIOUSLY fake.
is the news ever really news well the truth? before you just say yes watch this short video its on a story about milk so nothing to do with terrorists but non the less list to the words carefully.
"Monsanto & Cancer Milk: FOX NEWS KILLS STORY & FIRES Reporters." also just another fact people should know falsifying news is not against the law! and thats a very vague set of words meaning the news ant news its propaganda! designed to make you think the way they want you to on a particular subject!
@1poorsod i totally agree have you heard of skull and bones secret society in america? one of their secret numbers is 322 i am not sure just what it means or is reference to but bbc is 223 in numerology or 322 also
@26wordy It means the london olympics are the next faked target who will they accuse?? And why is it all predicted around 12 years earlier by the illuminati cards if you dont believe me look for yourself at the game cards
@rockermanmatt It's an expression. It means you lose. You insult people and automatically use the blanket term 'conspiracy theorist' as a way of dismissing a person who doubts a political situation as it is presented. You won't acknowledge proven false flag operations for obvious reasons.. Use strawman arguments... Whatever.. It's all on the page. Thou art at a loss.
@rockermanmatt POWER: "At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now." I'll bet he did right? That would be like, so freaky...
@rockermanmatt Shit, you must be fuming. All you did was provide a platform for me to mention Northwoods, Tonkin etc to people who might have been unaware. Not only that but the fact that only 6% of terrorist attacks in the US between 1980 and 2005 were Muslims. Good job you're not a government shill right? Otherwise you'd be getting your bottom spanked. Again.
@rockermanmatt Of course you're suddenly not reading them when asked to discuss Tonkin Northwoods etc. lol. Didn't say you did support the government, didn't defend terrorists either. You did question me - I said I doubt the official narrative but couldn't tell you exactly what happened so - I don't need evidence for a theory I don't have. "Reveal" where I'm from? lol. Because it has no relevance to the discussion. That's what's called having your backside handed to you. Northwoods?
@rockermanmatt Actually, you don't need to be a "conspiracy theorist" to question a government narrative. It just comes down to politics really. Politicians lie from time to time you know? And incidents like the Bay of Tonkin show just what the effects can be. What was it, 3 million young men that went to Vietnam? That's what annoys the shills - when you point out the holes in the story but don't start inventing your own version for them to do the same to. ;)
@rockermanmatt Wow, I didn't know there was something about being British or American that made somebody literally unable to do a bad deed. That's amazing. Who do they keep in the prisons? Oh... right... Muslims of course. Funny though, the FBIs website says that Muslims only account for 6% of terrorist attacks on US soil between 1980 and 2005. At least there's plenty of space in the jail for them to stretch their legs.
@rockermanmatt Stumbled upon actually. I wonder how many more conspiracy vids I'll find your conspiracy disbelieving self commenting on ;) Who said he was a mass murderer? Yet more strawman arguments - "like everyone else you've accused" (I've accused nobody in particular). And hey, you didn't try and have a guess where out of 270 underground stations the drills were taking place. lol. You're not very good at this are you? If you were doing it for a job I'd suggest they fired you.
@rockermanmatt Hey, wow! What a coincidence! You're over at this 'conspiracy theory' video too! How strange... Well, here we go - The ripple effect, although good in parts is not a patch on "7/7 The Big Picture" but to be honest, knockermanmatt, all you need to watch is the news - There's 270 tube stations in London and on that same particular day they were doing training excercises at precisely where? Can you guess? Go on... Have a stab in the dark.
Whatever the truth is,there were many normal people who showed incredible bravery,helping other people,staying with them and saving their lives.These people are heroes and we should be proud of them.
@permaveg I have some deep reserveration about the internet because it give the nutcase wackjobs like yourself who in the past would have been completely ignored, a platforms to endulge their fantasies.
@amemy1 Im sure the powers that carried out this atrocity would also like to shut people up that question the lie ridden account from them about what really happened that day, your opinion is predictable , you have no problem believing people like Peter Powers and his beyond far fetched account of the mock excercise that day, you are incredulous and either ignorant or in denial. Why are you watching this then, since this film is made by a "nutcase" .
Theres peter powers terror drill on same day, same times same stations, 4 lads with promising lives taking a non existent train, virtually no cctv, bus cctv 'wasnt working', paper IDs 'found unscathed' (just like 9/11 and madrid) no investigation, reports of 3 asian guys being shot dead by police at canary wharf, explosions under trains, only richard jones and danny biddle recall seeing anyone, after great pressure from MI5, military explosives changed to TATP, ridiculous, another inside job!!
@rockermanmatt and i mean it - BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT. for that, as any decent citizen knows, is the be all and end all. the problem we have to deal with here is how on 9/11 they can show a controlled demolition live to a billion people on tv and YET STILL CONVINCE THE MASSES that it was 'structural failure' despite all the evidence to the contrary. this is a real psychological problem. and as i say, you are either part of the problem, or part of the solution. please choose. do you care?
@rockermanmatt interesting that in your first post to permaveg you mentioned the 'holocaust'. debunking tactic #7 'bring out the anti-semite card' [e.g. david aaronovitch]. fortunately both i and perma are more intelligent than you and will not fall for such pathetic ruses. you also do debunking tactic #1 'pick a known ridiculous conspiracy theory and ridicule by association'. 7/7 has nothing to do with apollo. please, prove to me beyond reasonable doubt that you are not another rachel north...
@rockermanmatt you understand the principle of 'beyond reasonable doubt', yes? and also occam's razor? and sherlock holmes' 'once you have eliminated all possibilities, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth'? how many wicked, greedy, powerful people are there in the world? enough to band together and commit a false flag op? like gulf of tonkin? given the FACTS, WE know what happened. if you deny such facts, you are PART OF THE PROBLEM. or are you deliberately doing this?
You dont believe Oswald killed JFK then you believe in a conspiracy . Proving Elvis killed Robert Kennedy ? bit silly isnt it . So people in Britain and America are appalled by what I and others think about 7/7 , well you go back to sleep then and let others find out for you what really happened, we have many pieces of the jigsaw, and will wake you when the picture is bloody obvious to see, even for you .
@permaveg Hear you are again. do you get jealous that the US had the twin towers and all you ghot is a tube bombing?
Do you really think that places like GB are not a target?, and that there are no people in the world who want to kill you? How naive is that?? Its ashame you weren't on the tube that day mate, and its a shame the evil controllers of the world were so stupid to allow the internet, to spout crap on? Try venting your hatred for your country in a more constructive way. Leave.LOL
@amemy1 Am i jealous that the U.S. had the twin towers and all U.K. " ghot is a tube bombing?", and you wish i was on the tube that day, and you have the nerve to say im venting hatred ? Your true colours are coming out . I suppose you have to be evil to support evil and your comments are below contempt. You disgust me.
@rockermanmatt Check out history, such thinks have been done before. Why do you imagine many people were involved? If you want to live in denial thats your stupid choice, as can be seen by Tony Farrell some are not going to let the lies be hidden. And thank god and the truth you are in a shrinking minority with your ostrich outlook on the world. I suppose you think 9/11 was a muslim terrorist attack ? boy, your in for a few surprises in the next few years. Time to wake up shleepy head.
@rockermanmatt You are just following the stream , im sure you believe Oswald killed Kennedy, or Sirhan Sirhan shot Bobby Kennedy, Diana was killed by a drunk driver, after all why would goverments lie in this way to their people , they wouldnt do that would they ? yes they would and have done for a long time. The truth will come out about 7/7 and hopefully it will be the wake up call comatosed people like you need.
@rockermanmatt A principal intelligence analyst for S.Yorkshire police was dismissed from his job last year as he firmly believed the 7/7 atrocity was carried out by our own security services with goverment approval, Tony Farrell is now awaiting a tribunel for unfair dismissal. You will see more people , hopefully from our police force , who simply can not sit back and allow this terrible lie to go on. We owe it to those who were killed to find the real terrorists, thats pathetic is it ?
@permaveg again, nicely said. i think we're both of one mind here - 'orders' is probably the more likely scenario (than a mission). similarly with 'people' like aaronovitch - it's the vehemance and closed-mindedness and frankly ugly attitude that reveals their desperation. either they can't psychologically cope with the ramifications of the truth, or they know what's going on. perhaps we should find out where else 'georgia' has posted and well, defeat them at their own game? it's war, after all!
@permaveg nicely said dude. as long as we can spot these people, and then deal with them, then we have a chance of winning the psychological war against the sheeple. notice how she hasn't responded since our last posts eh! what does that tell you! it tells me that we got her! notice how in one session she replied vehemently to loads of diff posts, all debunking. as if 'now then agent rachel, your task today is 2 go on utube and post debunks' 'ok, sir, as you wish!'. i mean, ffs! so obvious! lmao
@ur7maa I would like to take credit for shutting her up but from what i can see your comments had the desired effect, and i thank you, you got a direct hit i would say! Ive engaged with some unpleasent debunkers who seem on a mission ( or orders) to ridicule every bloody word one utters ! they insult you enough to distract you from the original point, or try to, then their gone ! Rachel " sorry sir there were two smart arses on there" " i see, go to 9/11 comments then and spread some muck".
@Georgia The jungle has been giving the source of the information she? asked for and maintains i havent provided it, she? claims to be a researcher into "C.T.s" conspiracy theories and an expert but then seems unaware of some info on the 7/7 attack like the dark Jaguar car seen with the "bombers" on two occasions. Misinform, deny , and ridicule as much as you like but the truth still is the truth and many wont allow your sort to brush it under the carpet any longer.
@GeorgiaTheJungle please remember when u were young & innocent & weren't involved in all of this, and u thought the world and the future could be a wonderful place. it still can! really! do i strike you as an idiot? i don't think so! but what u are doing, rachel, is really not beneficial to mankind. so please, do rethink. or just come and have a convo with me in peace. we'll have some beers and just laugh! please, i mean, how can such lies make you happy? like i said, you were human once, yes?
@Georgia 'at least they have evidence' - show me it. what story did i make up? frankly, i pity sheeple like you. you're the sort of person who would have said the gulf of tonkin incident actually happened like they said it did, or that they didn't have advance warning of pearl harbour. frankly, PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE ME SICK, BECAUSE IT IS PRECISELY PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT ALLOW THEM TO GET AWAY WITH SUCH THINGS, SPREADING YOUR LIES AND DECEPTION. you were a good person once, yes? remember? please?
@Georgia however i will break my own rule here and answer 'georgia' (i.e. 'rachel north'). your reaction reveals my whole point. it's very hard psychologically for people to accept that their own govt will kill their own people. that's why 'they' have to kill conspiracy theories. most people r sheeple. from the emotivism of your comment, you are such a one. you really can't cope with the truth. perhaps you have a family? oh my it's so precious! now think about the iraqi families.
@GeorgiaTheJungle alert to truthers: is this 'rachel north' (mi5 psyop plant)? such people are dangerous collaborators - do not get drawn in. DO NOT answer them. if they are genuine doubters then they are stupid (obviously!), but psychologically they wouldn't react in this way, AND THIS PROVES MY INSIGHT! the other option is only that they are deliberate misinformataionists. PLEASE DO NOT GIVE THE RACHEL NORTHS THE TIME OF DAY. RACHEL NORTH ALERT! RACHEL NORTH ALERT! grow up georgia!
Some one commented that you cant debunk a single point on this film, so why in the film when talking about the film " 7/7 the ripple effect" the commentator states in a masked reference to muslims ," Its UNKNOWN maker goes by the arabic sounding name Maud dib" , which is a BBC lie as Maud dib is actually english, his real name is Anthony John Hill, they knew that but their innuendo is more damaging. This film is not the truth about that day, watch "7/7 the ripple effect" .
@permaveg mu’addib is an arab name you retard! So what if they mentioned that? Where do they ACTUALLY lie about him? Where do they ACTUALLY do something to mislead people? THIS IS THE BEST YOU GOT? BAHAHAHAHAHA
@GeorgiaTheJungle You cant seem to see the wood for the trees . I am aware the fim makers name is arabic you nitwit, im getting at the fact the beeb suggested he was unknown apart from the ARABIC name , hint hint folks. They knew his name , why the bullshit ? As for you not being able to get RICHARD D HALLs web i dont know , but its on chann 201 sky in the uk as well, it is out there , and do you find it reassuring to keep saying "cult " this "cult" that ? There is no cult, its in your head.
@permaveg you're such a bitch. I sent you a private message and explained that you could post a tinyurl right in the thread for everyone to see, but you've backed down! All of this WASTED TIME and you still haven't shown me any evidence, even thought it's as simple as making a tinyurl! (the link you sent was broken and I don't chase evidence for loons) You're just putting your own interpretation on that. Why don't you talk about smoking gun evidence? All of this RETARDED OBFUSCATION! HAHAHA
have you all noticed how they reverse the psych? i.e. you have conspiracy theory you need to prove it. you hold on to your theory despite all evidence we give you. well actually, it's the other way round with official v., but that's what the mainstream media don't want you to know. actually it's up to them to prove THEIR conspiracy theories. if they can prove beyond reas doubt that those 4 did it, then fine. but they can't. but then again, it doesn't matter, if most people are stupid, does it?
@ur7maa You're full of shit. You don't accept their evidence because you think they faked it? FINE at least they have evidence, not your shitty fucking stories you made up because you're a bunch of paranoid idiots.
Sorry you have a problem with that fact. Very cosy and simple to believe what they are telling you isnt it, all figured out ( they tell you) and without doing a little research you believe it all, thats how easy they get away with what they do, be it 9/11, Diana murder ,7/7, hook line and sinker you swallow the crap they offer you. Read Nick Kollerstroms book " Terror on the tube" , and start thinking for yourself instead of letting someone else telling you what to think and believe.
At 3:23 is where a top range Jaguar signalled to the muslims and approached their car before cameras stopped for a while , did it meet them ? it seems so , so who was driving that jag? possibly their "Handler" as they are called or even Peter Power, this evidence was omitted at the investigation , ever get the feeling your having the wool pulled over your eyes ?
@permaveg lol you read all of that into a car? Have you ever been in a parking lot? Do you wear a tinfoil hat perchance? Freaking paranoid eh? Relax man these conspiracy theories are all proven to be bullshit
@GeorgiaTheJungle The same car did the same thing on the 28th may during the alleged bombers trial run , so the same vehicle was at the same place twice when the bombers visited London the two times, this was not used at court. Not a conspiracy , its a fact.
@permaveg what the fuck? You have video of both days? And you can tell it's the same car at the exact same time? Try proving that to us all here, don't just send us a video try hard and explain what you just said. Something you NEVER DO because you believe this shit your evidence is retarded and you know it.
@GeorgiaTheJungle What difference does me having a video have to do with it ? it exists thats the point. A dark coloured Jaguar was in the same small car park on the day the "Bombers" went to London on the dummy run day on 28th June , it flashed its lights at the "Bombers" car, when it approached their vehicle the film was edited out. On the 7/7 day the same thing occured, its on film, its a fact, you may not like this evidence but that wont make it go away, why do you want to deny facts ?
@permaveg This "shit" as you stupidly call it is evidence, "send us a video"? go and do your own research you lazy git, and try using your brain stop letting others fool you.
@permaveg Why don't you show them to me? Where is this documented? You're just telling me a story, how can I verify it? How do you know all of this stuff? You truthers are all the same, no evidence, no understanding of how to make a case, you go around babbling like cult members. Why don't you make a proper case like everyone else? Why do you think it's acceptable to prattle along without referencing this?
@GeorgiaTheJungle Read Nick kollerstroms Book " Terror on the tube", he attended the investigations in court. To see the footage of the Black jag on 28th June and 7th july , go to Richard D Halls website. Youve asked for references, you have them. Please refrain from imbecile insults like " truthers" as though to seek the truth is somehow an illness, " how do i know all this stuff" ? Because like many others i simply look for evidence of 1) The official story 2) The un-official story.
@permaveg Oh, for some reason I missed this comment. I looked for jaguar and richard d hall, didn't come up in google, just paste a link or email it to me. It's YOUR CLAIM, the burden of proof is ON YOU
@GeorgiaTheJungle This isnt the place to make a "case" anyway why should i have to ? go and find out for yourself. I am just saying that many facts and events have been omitted from the story they are giving us to believe , and some events have been fabricated by them as well. If you take the trouble to scratch below the surface you will be shocked to see what you find, i still find it hard to believe what really happened that day and what was really behind it. But i must face facts.
@permaveg You're the one making the claim so YOU have to find the facts for us or else you're just wasting your time. You come to this conclusion without facts, this is cult delusion. Read some Lifton or Hassan. You're not FACING FACTS, you HAVE NO FACTS. I've been following the CTs since it happened, I study your movement, I know more about it than you do, I know more debunkings than you do CTs. Want to discuss this? Go to the JREF (btw all 7/7 arguments are debunked there)
@GeorgiaTheJungle I said there exists footage of the suspicious black jaguar , there does and it can be watched, but for you somehow this isnt a fact ? You said youve been following CTs since "it" happened, it?. And you know more about it than me, GREAT ! Tell me what the black Jag was doing there then, should be easy as your ridiculed it earlier, so whats the story about the Jag on the 28th and 7th july, maybe im wrong so please give us your facts about that vehicle on that day.
@permaveg your bullshit cult says "If you can't explain every little stupid detail about MY conspiracy theory, then it was an inside job!" Don't you realize how stupid that is? I only know of ONE video of a car, it MEANS NOTHING, you are reading nothing into it. Where is this second video? Why do you keep acting like a bitch and not showing me what you're talking about? Why? Because you know you can't prove it, it's just a story and a hunch, a DELUSION
@GeorgiaTheJungle The answer to my question then is you dont know, least thats clearer. You consider the Jag involvement as a " stupid detail" and it "MEANS NOTHING" . I think i understand your world now, your a sheeple police officer , you go round trying to debunk any theory or voice that isnt part of the shitsm. I bet you believe 9/11 was muslim terrorist action, and oswald killed Kennedy, and aspartame is good for children, G.M. crops will save the 3rd world, etc. Time for a red pill ?
@permaveg Shut the fuck up. You have not provided any evidence here at all. You are obviously delusional. Have fun finding bigfoot and hurting society with your delusions
@GeorgiaTheJungle Your getting weirder and weirder, " Have fun finding bigfoot ( unlikely in south england to be honest!) and hurting society with your delusions" hurting society ? What are you on about ? And you call me delusional !
@permaveg " I study YOUR (?) movement, i know more about it than you" you boast, i ask one conspiracy question and you dont know the answer ( about the Jag on the two dates) , and you know more than me do you, i see. What you dont know you consider irrelevent dont you , ignorance is bliss i suppose. You know not, and dont know you know not, fool.
@permaveg your 7/7 and 9/11 theories are as stupid as bigfoot, and going around spreadings these delusional CTs just hurts people and screws them up. You're a fucking tinfoil hat wearing kook that spreads poison and you think you have "evidence" which is actually just your delusion and dot connecting
@GeorgiaTheJungle Why cant you see whats going on, what does it take to make YOU start joining the dots to get a clearer picture of how it works ? How can you say you know about CTs and believe 7/7 and 9/11 were in no way connected to any conspiracy ? I cant make out wether you dont really know whats going on or you are a denialist, bit of both i bet.
@permaveg Because I'm not a fucking idiot, that's why. The brain has pattern-seeking functions, people who are mentally ill see conspiracies everywhere, people who are firing a little off are paranoid. That doesn't make all truthers insane but it's the same problem, you're linking facts that don't go together, and weaving a story. I need evidence and reason, I know more about this subject than you do, I've turned a lot of people around, those people were willing to look at my evidence though.
@GeorgiaTheJungle Im sure you have turned a lot of people " around " to you way of reasoning ? , not me because i think you are not looking at the evidence that is available, your mind is already decided. What is your evidence about the Jag? none , what facts dont go together in your mind? ones you dont know about i expect. I am unconvinced by you as you are about me, time will reveal all about whos delusional or not. " I know more about it than you" you dont ok , get over the illusion.
@permaveg Why don't YOU show me some evidence about the Jag, seems like everytime I ask your truther friends for it they block me like idiots. We're talking about facts. YOU ARE THE ONE MAKING THE FUCKED UP CLAIM. I don't have to make claims, How about you make ONE SINGULAR COGENT CLAIM AND PROVIDE EVIDENCE? Preview! I will debunk and humiliate you! Just pick up the phone and call the mental health unit, they know what to do.
@permaveg I've turned people from following a cult belief to following the facts and reasonable inferrences from them, yes. This is what cult deprogramming is. You sent me a broken link to the jag theory, I asked you to send me a tinyurl because I tried to google it for 30 seconds and nothing came up and I don't chase evidence for you fucking loons. You don't have to listen to me, idiot, the evidence is everywhere. Time will reveal threats are like "HAVE FUN IN HELL ATHEIST!!! cult loser...
Does anyone else smell government propoganda? If you buy this shit after hearing ALL the facts you are hopeless. Wake up sheeple!! Don't let them tell you how to think! If you have any common sense USE IT!!!
@sjtsnow yeah, forget the facts! I know because I've added up the thoughts in my head! Forget logic, just wake up! You can't debunk a single point in this video, go ahead, try.
a quater of british muslims believe it was faked....... well no shit .. this is not fucking 911 there were people who saw what happened just get over it muslims attacked us... so that obviously makes me racist.. so be it
i havent seen 1 argument refuting this,,! fuck me,,im from belfast ,ive seen enough bombs in ma day,,makes me wonder if the ira was responsible for all that carnage at enniskillen and omagh,,i think not.
@toptrichs you should also know of the role played by british intel(F.R.U) ect,they have controlled both sides for more than 30years,then for a creul joke they put martin,gerry and that other cunt gerry into stormount.
@toptrichs lol,what makes you think i want a bunch religious,gay bashing,kiddy fiddling,nut case dup members running stormount either but i certainly dont want people with 30 years of blood on their hands making descisions that affect my family.
@looknfortruth seriously! "affect your family" have you any idea how much your family if not now,,very soon are in serious danger by those that run things now! nick clegg and obama rubbing shoulders with the politicians in belfast,,,thats cause for concern,,,,so just leave the decisions up to them ...then your family will be much safer.!!!.p.s. i cant YOU make the decisions for your family!
@toptrichs are you serious,we stuck in creul game here in ni,you never wondered how or why haas was involved,or how the northern bank money just disapeared,how terrorists(martin&gerry) were invited to the white house never mind how they have been puppets of intel for years to destroy both communities.as for my family im actually lucky to be doing well so far,but with no thanks to any of those tubes on the hill
@looknfortruth if your not part of the solution,,,your part of the problem!! what have YOU done to stop "the 2 terroists" (chuckle). sounds like a uniosist elephant entered the room. haha gotta raise my hat too the bank job. anyway,, slanh go foil chara
@looknfortruth the brits are like the americans,,,they make the snowballs and the sheeple throw them...been doin it for 1000s o years..they wouldnt know how too fight with pillows,let alone a conventional war! "divide and conquer" springs too mind.
Does the voice-over artist not grow tired of saying the word 'conspiracy'? You'd think she'd do a 'Colin Powell' and exclaim... 'I'm not reading this... this is bullshit'
And OMG... when whoever scripted this tosh rolls out the empty implication that what didn't happen with the Jewish population on 9/11 also didn't happen here - hah!
And why hammer that the author has a strange Islamic-sounding pseudonym - Muad'Dib, when we all know it's just from DUNE - popular fiction by Frank Herbert?
Terribly done. Mostly opinions without actual evidence.
Richard Jones: Ripple Effect provides evidence from news articles of this guy contradicting himself and highly suspicious. BBC has him telling us he's innocent & concludes this for us without addressing accusations against him.
3 witnesses tell us the bomb exploded on the train contradicting one witness we actually know and a photo saying otherwise. Why were these 3 witnesses not identified in this documentary?
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But truth can . Just always be open and only trust what you see with your own eyes and ears.i think there could be some serious questions to come from this 7/7 ripple effect tape. which nobody is wanting to answer. not directly anyway.
the only tool we have and its a powerfull tool. is to ask questions and seek the truth. You should neverr beleive anything blindly. and always leave room for truth. and that little word called EVIDENCE not false evidence lies isnt evidence evidence doesnt come from someones mouth.
if you look at the video. at 26 seconds pause it and look at the damage of the trains floor. there is only 1 part that seems to proceed upwards. the rest of the floor downwards. but am no expert. so that goes against part of the video. 7/7 ripple effect. but only part. look how big that hole is. thats most defiantly a powerfull bomb that made that hole and cause steel to warp like that. i dont beleive its a bomb you can carry in a rucksack. ? why is everything so hush hush ?
Conspiracy theories are dreamt up by people who really ought to get laid more.
7/7: co-ordinated strikes + martyrdom videos + jihadist websites praising the bombers within hours = textbook terrorist attack. Get over it you fantasist fucks.
@RedJoe10 - oohh ok, so we should never question anything the media prints then...thanks for telling me what's what RedJoe10 - you are definitely not a fucking douche.
@RedJoe10 ......wow you really speak sense. Let's not question the media ever and let's just get over it....what a cunt you are....you have no argument, what the fuck is your retarded little equation anyway. Do something useful and punch yourself in the face.
@RedJoe10 If you'd ever studied Nazi Germany, you'd know that Governments have used terrorism to help create a sense of fear amongst its people and furthermore to gain public support in diminishing their human rights, as has happened after 9/11 and 7/7. Hitler did it with the Reichstag fire, whats to stop the British Government doing the same?
@jaguarclaw there's loads of evidence linking Bin Laden to 9/11, the fatwa on america, the precedent attacks on the cole & the embassy in kenya, the 9/11 hijacker's substantiated connections to Khalid Sheikh Mohammhed, the fact that Osama admits to being connected in many videos and statements (learn arabic & watch them, it's the same bin laden that appears in many pre-9/11 videos and statements, despite what some conspiracy theorists say)
I know a guy, my friends brother who was working on the CCTV for canery wharf as a security guard.He watched snipers take out a supposed threat on a bus .... the footage was taken and never published.Another incident I came across was again from another friend, who's sister was taking a bus in barking, the bus was stopped and a package was disposed of which had already started to smoke which must of meant it failed ...there were many other accounts doing the rounds which never made it the papers
Hahaha this has to be the most pathetic attempt of any kind to counter 7/7 ripple effect. Everytime a video like this bullshit comes out it only adds credibility to what its trying to counter. The evidence is BEYOND overwhelming that the attacks were not carried out by 4 muslims.
First of all britian and the wets are fighting an unspecified enemy that has no face or voice. Notice how the goverment use overt language to blame muslims.
I don't understand why the conspiracy theory is an insult to victims of this attack. It doesn't say the experience is fake, it says that the source of the experience is fake.
My relatives don't need to die for me to understand this, thank you very much.
So in actual fact, the insult for you is that the perpetrators they hypothesise seem unlikely. That's not the same as insulting the victims of the tragedy. They are just as concerned with finding and bringing to justice the perpetrators, in fact arguably more than you.
@1878EFC2008 at 0:26 the undercarriage has been exploded upwards and into the train - this is visual proof that a 'bomber' in the train could not have been the cause - can you understand this?
I think Muad Dib is a lunatic, but it was lame of this documentary to say "arabic sounding name" - why even mention that? It's lifted from Frank Herbert's Dune, it's not arabic. It's as if they're saying "an untrustworthy bloke with a foreign sounding name"
Can't be bothered watching the rest of it. Do they mention the MI6 (or so) involved in a drill at the exact same time in the exact locations? I'm betting not.
haha some people still think bbc is a ligitimate source of news. ur wasting ur time
Abuzwebstar 1 week ago
Looks worse than How could someone do this THOSE SICK BASTARDS
Dannystown 1 week ago
It maybe throwing petrol onto the fire, my dear, but it doesn't mean it isn't true!
theycallmedavid100 3 weeks ago
there is a man wearing a white baseball cap standing close to 3 horizontal railings. 1 railing passes behind him and 1 in front of him. Seeing as he is standing straight and wearing a back pack we can see that he ahs been added to the frame. Now if the powers that be are faking pictures to show us don't you think perhaps its right to question their version of events?
There are also dozens more inconsistencies with the "4 muslims" theory
MarshallLore 1 month ago
I dont like this blanket conspiracy theorist term. We should look at the definition of the word conspiracy. 1)A secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful. 2) The action of plotting or conspiring.
So by this definition you are a conspiracy theorist if you beleive the official report also. You are part of the "4 young muslims outwit British intelligence community" conspiracy theory.
Secondly the image released of the "4 attackers" entering Luton station is OBVIOUSLY fake.
MarshallLore 1 month ago
Osama bin lardin was working for mi5
supern4t 1 month ago
@supern4t CIA to be accurate. His code name was Tim Osman
MarshallLore 1 month ago
No it is not the truth they planted bombs and then blamed it on muslims to go to war for oil and to make them the most hated people in the world
supern4t 1 month ago
is the news ever really news well the truth? before you just say yes watch this short video its on a story about milk so nothing to do with terrorists but non the less list to the words carefully.
"Monsanto & Cancer Milk: FOX NEWS KILLS STORY & FIRES Reporters." also just another fact people should know falsifying news is not against the law! and thats a very vague set of words meaning the news ant news its propaganda! designed to make you think the way they want you to on a particular subject!
RvGJK 1 month ago
@1poorsod i totally agree have you heard of skull and bones secret society in america? one of their secret numbers is 322 i am not sure just what it means or is reference to but bbc is 223 in numerology or 322 also
RvGJK 1 month ago
Had to be military explosives because if it was a hydrogen peroxide bomb why were none of the victims or bombers hair bleached.
26wordy 3 months ago
Lets be honet if it was a set up the powers that be can count it a major success as the official story is now history.
26wordy 3 months ago
@26wordy It means the london olympics are the next faked target who will they accuse?? And why is it all predicted around 12 years earlier by the illuminati cards if you dont believe me look for yourself at the game cards
supern4t 1 month ago
@rockermanmatt It's an expression. It means you lose. You insult people and automatically use the blanket term 'conspiracy theorist' as a way of dismissing a person who doubts a political situation as it is presented. You won't acknowledge proven false flag operations for obvious reasons.. Use strawman arguments... Whatever.. It's all on the page. Thou art at a loss.
hoffmanshades 5 months ago
@rockermanmatt At exactly the same locations?
hoffmanshades 5 months ago
@rockermanmatt POWER: "At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now." I'll bet he did right? That would be like, so freaky...
hoffmanshades 5 months ago
@rockermanmatt Thanks for playing though.
hoffmanshades 5 months ago
@rockermanmatt Shit, you must be fuming. All you did was provide a platform for me to mention Northwoods, Tonkin etc to people who might have been unaware. Not only that but the fact that only 6% of terrorist attacks in the US between 1980 and 2005 were Muslims. Good job you're not a government shill right? Otherwise you'd be getting your bottom spanked. Again.
hoffmanshades 5 months ago
@rockermanmatt Of course you're suddenly not reading them when asked to discuss Tonkin Northwoods etc. lol. Didn't say you did support the government, didn't defend terrorists either. You did question me - I said I doubt the official narrative but couldn't tell you exactly what happened so - I don't need evidence for a theory I don't have. "Reveal" where I'm from? lol. Because it has no relevance to the discussion. That's what's called having your backside handed to you. Northwoods?
hoffmanshades 5 months ago
@rockermanmatt Also, what relevance would my nationality be? Your comments are so weak it's hilarious. Thanks for the platform though.
hoffmanshades 5 months ago
@rockermanmatt Actually, you don't need to be a "conspiracy theorist" to question a government narrative. It just comes down to politics really. Politicians lie from time to time you know? And incidents like the Bay of Tonkin show just what the effects can be. What was it, 3 million young men that went to Vietnam? That's what annoys the shills - when you point out the holes in the story but don't start inventing your own version for them to do the same to. ;)
hoffmanshades 5 months ago
@rockermanmatt Wow, I didn't know there was something about being British or American that made somebody literally unable to do a bad deed. That's amazing. Who do they keep in the prisons? Oh... right... Muslims of course. Funny though, the FBIs website says that Muslims only account for 6% of terrorist attacks on US soil between 1980 and 2005. At least there's plenty of space in the jail for them to stretch their legs.
hoffmanshades 5 months ago
@rockermanmatt Stumbled upon actually. I wonder how many more conspiracy vids I'll find your conspiracy disbelieving self commenting on ;) Who said he was a mass murderer? Yet more strawman arguments - "like everyone else you've accused" (I've accused nobody in particular). And hey, you didn't try and have a guess where out of 270 underground stations the drills were taking place. lol. You're not very good at this are you? If you were doing it for a job I'd suggest they fired you.
hoffmanshades 5 months ago
@rockermanmatt Hey, wow! What a coincidence! You're over at this 'conspiracy theory' video too! How strange... Well, here we go - The ripple effect, although good in parts is not a patch on "7/7 The Big Picture" but to be honest, knockermanmatt, all you need to watch is the news - There's 270 tube stations in London and on that same particular day they were doing training excercises at precisely where? Can you guess? Go on... Have a stab in the dark.
hoffmanshades 5 months ago
lool made by the BBC. . .
Jayblaze455 5 months ago
LOL, an Arabic-sounding name. Muad'dib. What a bunch of wankers.
It's a dead lift of Paul Atreides' Fremen name from Frank Herbert's "DUNE", which would be apparent to -anyone- who saw Ripple Effect.
Talk about throwing petrol onto the anti-Arabic flame. Double-think, I name thee 7/7.
OneVoiceMore 6 months ago
Whatever the truth is,there were many normal people who showed incredible bravery,helping other people,staying with them and saving their lives.These people are heroes and we should be proud of them.
bkelaries 6 months ago
I remember "operation Gladio" killing a lot of innocent people. It was "our" boys who did it ! I have no trust in the government at all.
Sateeya1 6 months ago
@rockermanmatt I've come across this clown before, they are so naive.
amemy1 7 months ago
@amemy1 I would rather be a clown than a liar.
permaveg 7 months ago
@permaveg I have some deep reserveration about the internet because it give the nutcase wackjobs like yourself who in the past would have been completely ignored, a platforms to endulge their fantasies.
amemy1 7 months ago
@amemy1 Im sure the powers that carried out this atrocity would also like to shut people up that question the lie ridden account from them about what really happened that day, your opinion is predictable , you have no problem believing people like Peter Powers and his beyond far fetched account of the mock excercise that day, you are incredulous and either ignorant or in denial. Why are you watching this then, since this film is made by a "nutcase" .
permaveg 7 months ago
Theres peter powers terror drill on same day, same times same stations, 4 lads with promising lives taking a non existent train, virtually no cctv, bus cctv 'wasnt working', paper IDs 'found unscathed' (just like 9/11 and madrid) no investigation, reports of 3 asian guys being shot dead by police at canary wharf, explosions under trains, only richard jones and danny biddle recall seeing anyone, after great pressure from MI5, military explosives changed to TATP, ridiculous, another inside job!!
wellifthemediasaysit 8 months ago
@wellifthemediasaysit - Very well summed up.
B0ph 7 months ago
@rockermanmatt and i mean it - BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT. for that, as any decent citizen knows, is the be all and end all. the problem we have to deal with here is how on 9/11 they can show a controlled demolition live to a billion people on tv and YET STILL CONVINCE THE MASSES that it was 'structural failure' despite all the evidence to the contrary. this is a real psychological problem. and as i say, you are either part of the problem, or part of the solution. please choose. do you care?
ur7maa 8 months ago 2
@rockermanmatt interesting that in your first post to permaveg you mentioned the 'holocaust'. debunking tactic #7 'bring out the anti-semite card' [e.g. david aaronovitch]. fortunately both i and perma are more intelligent than you and will not fall for such pathetic ruses. you also do debunking tactic #1 'pick a known ridiculous conspiracy theory and ridicule by association'. 7/7 has nothing to do with apollo. please, prove to me beyond reasonable doubt that you are not another rachel north...
ur7maa 8 months ago 2
@rockermanmatt you understand the principle of 'beyond reasonable doubt', yes? and also occam's razor? and sherlock holmes' 'once you have eliminated all possibilities, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth'? how many wicked, greedy, powerful people are there in the world? enough to band together and commit a false flag op? like gulf of tonkin? given the FACTS, WE know what happened. if you deny such facts, you are PART OF THE PROBLEM. or are you deliberately doing this?
ur7maa 8 months ago
You dont believe Oswald killed JFK then you believe in a conspiracy . Proving Elvis killed Robert Kennedy ? bit silly isnt it . So people in Britain and America are appalled by what I and others think about 7/7 , well you go back to sleep then and let others find out for you what really happened, we have many pieces of the jigsaw, and will wake you when the picture is bloody obvious to see, even for you .
permaveg 8 months ago
@permaveg Hear you are again. do you get jealous that the US had the twin towers and all you ghot is a tube bombing?
Do you really think that places like GB are not a target?, and that there are no people in the world who want to kill you? How naive is that?? Its ashame you weren't on the tube that day mate, and its a shame the evil controllers of the world were so stupid to allow the internet, to spout crap on? Try venting your hatred for your country in a more constructive way. Leave.LOL
amemy1 7 months ago
@amemy1 Am i jealous that the U.S. had the twin towers and all U.K. " ghot is a tube bombing?", and you wish i was on the tube that day, and you have the nerve to say im venting hatred ? Your true colours are coming out . I suppose you have to be evil to support evil and your comments are below contempt. You disgust me.
permaveg 7 months ago
@rockermanmatt Check out history, such thinks have been done before. Why do you imagine many people were involved? If you want to live in denial thats your stupid choice, as can be seen by Tony Farrell some are not going to let the lies be hidden. And thank god and the truth you are in a shrinking minority with your ostrich outlook on the world. I suppose you think 9/11 was a muslim terrorist attack ? boy, your in for a few surprises in the next few years. Time to wake up shleepy head.
permaveg 8 months ago
@rockermanmatt You are just following the stream , im sure you believe Oswald killed Kennedy, or Sirhan Sirhan shot Bobby Kennedy, Diana was killed by a drunk driver, after all why would goverments lie in this way to their people , they wouldnt do that would they ? yes they would and have done for a long time. The truth will come out about 7/7 and hopefully it will be the wake up call comatosed people like you need.
permaveg 8 months ago
@rockermanmatt A principal intelligence analyst for S.Yorkshire police was dismissed from his job last year as he firmly believed the 7/7 atrocity was carried out by our own security services with goverment approval, Tony Farrell is now awaiting a tribunel for unfair dismissal. You will see more people , hopefully from our police force , who simply can not sit back and allow this terrible lie to go on. We owe it to those who were killed to find the real terrorists, thats pathetic is it ?
permaveg 8 months ago
@rockermanmatt Only dead fish go with the stream, as the saying goes, so float on.
permaveg 8 months ago
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hoffmanshades 5 months ago
@permaveg again, nicely said. i think we're both of one mind here - 'orders' is probably the more likely scenario (than a mission). similarly with 'people' like aaronovitch - it's the vehemance and closed-mindedness and frankly ugly attitude that reveals their desperation. either they can't psychologically cope with the ramifications of the truth, or they know what's going on. perhaps we should find out where else 'georgia' has posted and well, defeat them at their own game? it's war, after all!
ur7maa 8 months ago
Rachael...... The Zionists organized this disaster. Possibly Blair didn't know.
commins100 8 months ago
@permaveg nicely said dude. as long as we can spot these people, and then deal with them, then we have a chance of winning the psychological war against the sheeple. notice how she hasn't responded since our last posts eh! what does that tell you! it tells me that we got her! notice how in one session she replied vehemently to loads of diff posts, all debunking. as if 'now then agent rachel, your task today is 2 go on utube and post debunks' 'ok, sir, as you wish!'. i mean, ffs! so obvious! lmao
ur7maa 8 months ago
@ur7maa I would like to take credit for shutting her up but from what i can see your comments had the desired effect, and i thank you, you got a direct hit i would say! Ive engaged with some unpleasent debunkers who seem on a mission ( or orders) to ridicule every bloody word one utters ! they insult you enough to distract you from the original point, or try to, then their gone ! Rachel " sorry sir there were two smart arses on there" " i see, go to 9/11 comments then and spread some muck".
permaveg 8 months ago
@Georgia The jungle has been giving the source of the information she? asked for and maintains i havent provided it, she? claims to be a researcher into "C.T.s" conspiracy theories and an expert but then seems unaware of some info on the 7/7 attack like the dark Jaguar car seen with the "bombers" on two occasions. Misinform, deny , and ridicule as much as you like but the truth still is the truth and many wont allow your sort to brush it under the carpet any longer.
permaveg 9 months ago
@GeorgiaTheJungle please remember when u were young & innocent & weren't involved in all of this, and u thought the world and the future could be a wonderful place. it still can! really! do i strike you as an idiot? i don't think so! but what u are doing, rachel, is really not beneficial to mankind. so please, do rethink. or just come and have a convo with me in peace. we'll have some beers and just laugh! please, i mean, how can such lies make you happy? like i said, you were human once, yes?
ur7maa 9 months ago
@Georgia 'at least they have evidence' - show me it. what story did i make up? frankly, i pity sheeple like you. you're the sort of person who would have said the gulf of tonkin incident actually happened like they said it did, or that they didn't have advance warning of pearl harbour. frankly, PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE ME SICK, BECAUSE IT IS PRECISELY PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT ALLOW THEM TO GET AWAY WITH SUCH THINGS, SPREADING YOUR LIES AND DECEPTION. you were a good person once, yes? remember? please?
ur7maa 9 months ago
@Georgia however i will break my own rule here and answer 'georgia' (i.e. 'rachel north'). your reaction reveals my whole point. it's very hard psychologically for people to accept that their own govt will kill their own people. that's why 'they' have to kill conspiracy theories. most people r sheeple. from the emotivism of your comment, you are such a one. you really can't cope with the truth. perhaps you have a family? oh my it's so precious! now think about the iraqi families.
ur7maa 9 months ago
@GeorgiaTheJungle alert to truthers: is this 'rachel north' (mi5 psyop plant)? such people are dangerous collaborators - do not get drawn in. DO NOT answer them. if they are genuine doubters then they are stupid (obviously!), but psychologically they wouldn't react in this way, AND THIS PROVES MY INSIGHT! the other option is only that they are deliberate misinformataionists. PLEASE DO NOT GIVE THE RACHEL NORTHS THE TIME OF DAY. RACHEL NORTH ALERT! RACHEL NORTH ALERT! grow up georgia!
ur7maa 9 months ago
Some one commented that you cant debunk a single point on this film, so why in the film when talking about the film " 7/7 the ripple effect" the commentator states in a masked reference to muslims ," Its UNKNOWN maker goes by the arabic sounding name Maud dib" , which is a BBC lie as Maud dib is actually english, his real name is Anthony John Hill, they knew that but their innuendo is more damaging. This film is not the truth about that day, watch "7/7 the ripple effect" .
permaveg 9 months ago
@permaveg LOL @ YOU!!! YOU think them saying that name is "arab sounding" is evidence? THATS SO FUCKING FUNNY!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
GeorgiaTheJungle 9 months ago
@permaveg mu’addib is an arab name you retard! So what if they mentioned that? Where do they ACTUALLY lie about him? Where do they ACTUALLY do something to mislead people? THIS IS THE BEST YOU GOT? BAHAHAHAHAHA
GeorgiaTheJungle 9 months ago
@GeorgiaTheJungle You cant seem to see the wood for the trees . I am aware the fim makers name is arabic you nitwit, im getting at the fact the beeb suggested he was unknown apart from the ARABIC name , hint hint folks. They knew his name , why the bullshit ? As for you not being able to get RICHARD D HALLs web i dont know , but its on chann 201 sky in the uk as well, it is out there , and do you find it reassuring to keep saying "cult " this "cult" that ? There is no cult, its in your head.
permaveg 9 months ago
@permaveg you're such a bitch. I sent you a private message and explained that you could post a tinyurl right in the thread for everyone to see, but you've backed down! All of this WASTED TIME and you still haven't shown me any evidence, even thought it's as simple as making a tinyurl! (the link you sent was broken and I don't chase evidence for loons) You're just putting your own interpretation on that. Why don't you talk about smoking gun evidence? All of this RETARDED OBFUSCATION! HAHAHA
GeorgiaTheJungle 9 months ago
have you all noticed how they reverse the psych? i.e. you have conspiracy theory you need to prove it. you hold on to your theory despite all evidence we give you. well actually, it's the other way round with official v., but that's what the mainstream media don't want you to know. actually it's up to them to prove THEIR conspiracy theories. if they can prove beyond reas doubt that those 4 did it, then fine. but they can't. but then again, it doesn't matter, if most people are stupid, does it?
ur7maa 9 months ago
@ur7maa You're full of shit. You don't accept their evidence because you think they faked it? FINE at least they have evidence, not your shitty fucking stories you made up because you're a bunch of paranoid idiots.
GeorgiaTheJungle 9 months ago
@bonesoftruth Or get return train tickets.
permaveg 9 months ago
Sorry you have a problem with that fact. Very cosy and simple to believe what they are telling you isnt it, all figured out ( they tell you) and without doing a little research you believe it all, thats how easy they get away with what they do, be it 9/11, Diana murder ,7/7, hook line and sinker you swallow the crap they offer you. Read Nick Kollerstroms book " Terror on the tube" , and start thinking for yourself instead of letting someone else telling you what to think and believe.
permaveg 9 months ago
At 3:23 is where a top range Jaguar signalled to the muslims and approached their car before cameras stopped for a while , did it meet them ? it seems so , so who was driving that jag? possibly their "Handler" as they are called or even Peter Power, this evidence was omitted at the investigation , ever get the feeling your having the wool pulled over your eyes ?
permaveg 9 months ago
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GeorgiaTheJungle 9 months ago
@permaveg lol you read all of that into a car? Have you ever been in a parking lot? Do you wear a tinfoil hat perchance? Freaking paranoid eh? Relax man these conspiracy theories are all proven to be bullshit
GeorgiaTheJungle 9 months ago
@GeorgiaTheJungle The same car did the same thing on the 28th may during the alleged bombers trial run , so the same vehicle was at the same place twice when the bombers visited London the two times, this was not used at court. Not a conspiracy , its a fact.
permaveg 9 months ago
@permaveg what the fuck? You have video of both days? And you can tell it's the same car at the exact same time? Try proving that to us all here, don't just send us a video try hard and explain what you just said. Something you NEVER DO because you believe this shit your evidence is retarded and you know it.
GeorgiaTheJungle 9 months ago
@GeorgiaTheJungle What difference does me having a video have to do with it ? it exists thats the point. A dark coloured Jaguar was in the same small car park on the day the "Bombers" went to London on the dummy run day on 28th June , it flashed its lights at the "Bombers" car, when it approached their vehicle the film was edited out. On the 7/7 day the same thing occured, its on film, its a fact, you may not like this evidence but that wont make it go away, why do you want to deny facts ?
permaveg 9 months ago
@permaveg This "shit" as you stupidly call it is evidence, "send us a video"? go and do your own research you lazy git, and try using your brain stop letting others fool you.
permaveg 9 months ago
@permaveg Why don't you show them to me? Where is this documented? You're just telling me a story, how can I verify it? How do you know all of this stuff? You truthers are all the same, no evidence, no understanding of how to make a case, you go around babbling like cult members. Why don't you make a proper case like everyone else? Why do you think it's acceptable to prattle along without referencing this?
GeorgiaTheJungle 9 months ago
@GeorgiaTheJungle Read Nick kollerstroms Book " Terror on the tube", he attended the investigations in court. To see the footage of the Black jag on 28th June and 7th july , go to Richard D Halls website. Youve asked for references, you have them. Please refrain from imbecile insults like " truthers" as though to seek the truth is somehow an illness, " how do i know all this stuff" ? Because like many others i simply look for evidence of 1) The official story 2) The un-official story.
permaveg 9 months ago
@permaveg Oh, for some reason I missed this comment. I looked for jaguar and richard d hall, didn't come up in google, just paste a link or email it to me. It's YOUR CLAIM, the burden of proof is ON YOU
GeorgiaTheJungle 9 months ago
@GeorgiaTheJungle " Burden of proof " ? Have sent what you ask for, have a nice debunk.
permaveg 9 months ago
@GeorgiaTheJungle This isnt the place to make a "case" anyway why should i have to ? go and find out for yourself. I am just saying that many facts and events have been omitted from the story they are giving us to believe , and some events have been fabricated by them as well. If you take the trouble to scratch below the surface you will be shocked to see what you find, i still find it hard to believe what really happened that day and what was really behind it. But i must face facts.
permaveg 9 months ago
@permaveg You're the one making the claim so YOU have to find the facts for us or else you're just wasting your time. You come to this conclusion without facts, this is cult delusion. Read some Lifton or Hassan. You're not FACING FACTS, you HAVE NO FACTS. I've been following the CTs since it happened, I study your movement, I know more about it than you do, I know more debunkings than you do CTs. Want to discuss this? Go to the JREF (btw all 7/7 arguments are debunked there)
GeorgiaTheJungle 9 months ago
@GeorgiaTheJungle I said there exists footage of the suspicious black jaguar , there does and it can be watched, but for you somehow this isnt a fact ? You said youve been following CTs since "it" happened, it?. And you know more about it than me, GREAT ! Tell me what the black Jag was doing there then, should be easy as your ridiculed it earlier, so whats the story about the Jag on the 28th and 7th july, maybe im wrong so please give us your facts about that vehicle on that day.
permaveg 9 months ago
@permaveg your bullshit cult says "If you can't explain every little stupid detail about MY conspiracy theory, then it was an inside job!" Don't you realize how stupid that is? I only know of ONE video of a car, it MEANS NOTHING, you are reading nothing into it. Where is this second video? Why do you keep acting like a bitch and not showing me what you're talking about? Why? Because you know you can't prove it, it's just a story and a hunch, a DELUSION
GeorgiaTheJungle 9 months ago
@GeorgiaTheJungle The answer to my question then is you dont know, least thats clearer. You consider the Jag involvement as a " stupid detail" and it "MEANS NOTHING" . I think i understand your world now, your a sheeple police officer , you go round trying to debunk any theory or voice that isnt part of the shitsm. I bet you believe 9/11 was muslim terrorist action, and oswald killed Kennedy, and aspartame is good for children, G.M. crops will save the 3rd world, etc. Time for a red pill ?
permaveg 9 months ago
@permaveg Shut the fuck up. You have not provided any evidence here at all. You are obviously delusional. Have fun finding bigfoot and hurting society with your delusions
GeorgiaTheJungle 9 months ago
@GeorgiaTheJungle Your getting weirder and weirder, " Have fun finding bigfoot ( unlikely in south england to be honest!) and hurting society with your delusions" hurting society ? What are you on about ? And you call me delusional !
permaveg 9 months ago
@permaveg " I study YOUR (?) movement, i know more about it than you" you boast, i ask one conspiracy question and you dont know the answer ( about the Jag on the two dates) , and you know more than me do you, i see. What you dont know you consider irrelevent dont you , ignorance is bliss i suppose. You know not, and dont know you know not, fool.
permaveg 9 months ago
@permaveg your 7/7 and 9/11 theories are as stupid as bigfoot, and going around spreadings these delusional CTs just hurts people and screws them up. You're a fucking tinfoil hat wearing kook that spreads poison and you think you have "evidence" which is actually just your delusion and dot connecting
GeorgiaTheJungle 9 months ago
@GeorgiaTheJungle Why cant you see whats going on, what does it take to make YOU start joining the dots to get a clearer picture of how it works ? How can you say you know about CTs and believe 7/7 and 9/11 were in no way connected to any conspiracy ? I cant make out wether you dont really know whats going on or you are a denialist, bit of both i bet.
permaveg 9 months ago
@permaveg Because I'm not a fucking idiot, that's why. The brain has pattern-seeking functions, people who are mentally ill see conspiracies everywhere, people who are firing a little off are paranoid. That doesn't make all truthers insane but it's the same problem, you're linking facts that don't go together, and weaving a story. I need evidence and reason, I know more about this subject than you do, I've turned a lot of people around, those people were willing to look at my evidence though.
GeorgiaTheJungle 9 months ago
@GeorgiaTheJungle Im sure you have turned a lot of people " around " to you way of reasoning ? , not me because i think you are not looking at the evidence that is available, your mind is already decided. What is your evidence about the Jag? none , what facts dont go together in your mind? ones you dont know about i expect. I am unconvinced by you as you are about me, time will reveal all about whos delusional or not. " I know more about it than you" you dont ok , get over the illusion.
permaveg 9 months ago
@permaveg Why don't YOU show me some evidence about the Jag, seems like everytime I ask your truther friends for it they block me like idiots. We're talking about facts. YOU ARE THE ONE MAKING THE FUCKED UP CLAIM. I don't have to make claims, How about you make ONE SINGULAR COGENT CLAIM AND PROVIDE EVIDENCE? Preview! I will debunk and humiliate you! Just pick up the phone and call the mental health unit, they know what to do.
GeorgiaTheJungle 9 months ago
@permaveg I've turned people from following a cult belief to following the facts and reasonable inferrences from them, yes. This is what cult deprogramming is. You sent me a broken link to the jag theory, I asked you to send me a tinyurl because I tried to google it for 30 seconds and nothing came up and I don't chase evidence for you fucking loons. You don't have to listen to me, idiot, the evidence is everywhere. Time will reveal threats are like "HAVE FUN IN HELL ATHEIST!!! cult loser...
GeorgiaTheJungle 9 months ago
this stinks! why go to so much trouble over some youtube vids?
Dogeggz 9 months ago
Does anyone else smell government propoganda? If you buy this shit after hearing ALL the facts you are hopeless. Wake up sheeple!! Don't let them tell you how to think! If you have any common sense USE IT!!!
sjtsnow 10 months ago
@sjtsnow yeah, forget the facts! I know because I've added up the thoughts in my head! Forget logic, just wake up! You can't debunk a single point in this video, go ahead, try.
GeorgiaTheJungle 9 months ago
@sjtsnow I can certainly smell something rotten, and it seems to be coming from the Beeb direction, sniff sniff, its BULLSHIT, you right.
permaveg 9 months ago
if 7/7 was an attempt to get the British people to get behind the war on terror, then why were similar attacks made two weeks later?
MuseFan777 10 months ago
a quater of british muslims believe it was faked....... well no shit .. this is not fucking 911 there were people who saw what happened just get over it muslims attacked us... so that obviously makes me racist.. so be it
RyanMellor1 10 months ago
7:42
jackthelad101 10 months ago
he had a" muslim sounding name" well thats the white house fucked! you fucking crackwhore .
toptrichs 1 year ago
lol,,,he had an irish accent! ,,,he must be an i.r.a. man,,shoot him!! hahah give me a fucking break/.
toptrichs 1 year ago
i havent seen 1 argument refuting this,,! fuck me,,im from belfast ,ive seen enough bombs in ma day,,makes me wonder if the ira was responsible for all that carnage at enniskillen and omagh,,i think not.
toptrichs 1 year ago
@toptrichs you should also know of the role played by british intel(F.R.U) ect,they have controlled both sides for more than 30years,then for a creul joke they put martin,gerry and that other cunt gerry into stormount.
looknfortruth 1 year ago
@looknfortruth well,,,now,,,ya cant say the unoinists were doin a good job! thats old news about fru,the dogs in the street knew who they were.
toptrichs 1 year ago
@toptrichs lol,what makes you think i want a bunch religious,gay bashing,kiddy fiddling,nut case dup members running stormount either but i certainly dont want people with 30 years of blood on their hands making descisions that affect my family.
looknfortruth 1 year ago
@looknfortruth seriously! "affect your family" have you any idea how much your family if not now,,very soon are in serious danger by those that run things now! nick clegg and obama rubbing shoulders with the politicians in belfast,,,thats cause for concern,,,,so just leave the decisions up to them ...then your family will be much safer.!!!.p.s. i cant YOU make the decisions for your family!
toptrichs 1 year ago
@toptrichs are you serious,we stuck in creul game here in ni,you never wondered how or why haas was involved,or how the northern bank money just disapeared,how terrorists(martin&gerry) were invited to the white house never mind how they have been puppets of intel for years to destroy both communities.as for my family im actually lucky to be doing well so far,but with no thanks to any of those tubes on the hill
looknfortruth 1 year ago
@looknfortruth if your not part of the solution,,,your part of the problem!! what have YOU done to stop "the 2 terroists" (chuckle). sounds like a uniosist elephant entered the room. haha gotta raise my hat too the bank job. anyway,, slanh go foil chara
toptrichs 1 year ago
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looknfortruth 1 year ago
@toptrichs Tiocfaidh ár lá mo dheartháir ó eile mháthair
looknfortruth 1 year ago
@looknfortruth ooooh,,multi-talented..nice google translation! bravo
toptrichs 1 year ago
@looknfortruth the whitehouse has harboured terrorists for the last 2 elections,,,dont get too alarmed,,!
toptrichs 1 year ago
@toptrichs lol,ofcourse google translate.im just imagining coming home as a young boy telln my da im learning irish in school..lmao
looknfortruth 1 year ago
@looknfortruth well at least you`d be learning something worth while. amhain a rith ar n-aibhneacha saor in aisce
toptrichs 1 year ago
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toptrichs 1 year ago
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@looknfortruth i mean "unionists" in case you correct me on my typo
toptrichs 1 year ago
@looknfortruth the brits are like the americans,,,they make the snowballs and the sheeple throw them...been doin it for 1000s o years..they wouldnt know how too fight with pillows,let alone a conventional war! "divide and conquer" springs too mind.
toptrichs 1 year ago
Does the voice-over artist not grow tired of saying the word 'conspiracy'? You'd think she'd do a 'Colin Powell' and exclaim... 'I'm not reading this... this is bullshit'
And OMG... when whoever scripted this tosh rolls out the empty implication that what didn't happen with the Jewish population on 9/11 also didn't happen here - hah!
And why hammer that the author has a strange Islamic-sounding pseudonym - Muad'Dib, when we all know it's just from DUNE - popular fiction by Frank Herbert?
Manuhashidate 1 year ago
it was an inside job
charlie000111 1 year ago
Terribly done. Mostly opinions without actual evidence.
Richard Jones: Ripple Effect provides evidence from news articles of this guy contradicting himself and highly suspicious. BBC has him telling us he's innocent & concludes this for us without addressing accusations against him.
3 witnesses tell us the bomb exploded on the train contradicting one witness we actually know and a photo saying otherwise. Why were these 3 witnesses not identified in this documentary?
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TheReasonUK 1 year ago
But truth can . Just always be open and only trust what you see with your own eyes and ears.i think there could be some serious questions to come from this 7/7 ripple effect tape. which nobody is wanting to answer. not directly anyway.
trotskiii3 1 year ago
the only tool we have and its a powerfull tool. is to ask questions and seek the truth. You should neverr beleive anything blindly. and always leave room for truth. and that little word called EVIDENCE not false evidence lies isnt evidence evidence doesnt come from someones mouth.
trotskiii3 1 year ago
if you look at the video. at 26 seconds pause it and look at the damage of the trains floor. there is only 1 part that seems to proceed upwards. the rest of the floor downwards. but am no expert. so that goes against part of the video. 7/7 ripple effect. but only part. look how big that hole is. thats most defiantly a powerfull bomb that made that hole and cause steel to warp like that. i dont beleive its a bomb you can carry in a rucksack. ? why is everything so hush hush ?
trotskiii3 1 year ago
every major incident seems to be a conspiracy all the way from the titanic to 7/7...
its starting to get boring
charliesacoolkid 1 year ago
So will Rachael North please tell us that she witnessed these guys exploding the bombs?
cjellwood 1 year ago
Very poor documentary by BBC which does nothing to allay the inconsistencies in the official reports eg train times claimed.
Its pathetic to say that just cause it makes someone feel bad that the official version should not be questioned.
Jonchess 1 year ago
Conspiracy theories are dreamt up by people who really ought to get laid more.
7/7: co-ordinated strikes + martyrdom videos + jihadist websites praising the bombers within hours = textbook terrorist attack. Get over it you fantasist fucks.
RedJoe10 1 year ago
@RedJoe10 - oohh ok, so we should never question anything the media prints then...thanks for telling me what's what RedJoe10 - you are definitely not a fucking douche.
scottbark 1 year ago
@RedJoe10 ......wow you really speak sense. Let's not question the media ever and let's just get over it....what a cunt you are....you have no argument, what the fuck is your retarded little equation anyway. Do something useful and punch yourself in the face.
scottbark 1 year ago
@RedJoe10 sorry your just closed minded and think the government are out to keep you safe ? pfft shut the fuck up.
YoBludclart 1 year ago
@RedJoe10 even 9/11?
badharvz 1 year ago
@RedJoe10 If you'd ever studied Nazi Germany, you'd know that Governments have used terrorism to help create a sense of fear amongst its people and furthermore to gain public support in diminishing their human rights, as has happened after 9/11 and 7/7. Hitler did it with the Reichstag fire, whats to stop the British Government doing the same?
TimmyHowles 1 year ago
@RedJoe10 thank the lord some one else has a brain. I'm with you man
charliesacoolkid 1 year ago
@jaguarclaw there's loads of evidence linking Bin Laden to 9/11, the fatwa on america, the precedent attacks on the cole & the embassy in kenya, the 9/11 hijacker's substantiated connections to Khalid Sheikh Mohammhed, the fact that Osama admits to being connected in many videos and statements (learn arabic & watch them, it's the same bin laden that appears in many pre-9/11 videos and statements, despite what some conspiracy theorists say)
handofsutekh 1 year ago
Why would a suicidal Muslim who's just about to blow himself up bother about his change???
N always remember the BBC should stand for British Brainwashing Corporation'.
lcfc1985 1 year ago
I know a guy, my friends brother who was working on the CCTV for canery wharf as a security guard.He watched snipers take out a supposed threat on a bus .... the footage was taken and never published.Another incident I came across was again from another friend, who's sister was taking a bus in barking, the bus was stopped and a package was disposed of which had already started to smoke which must of meant it failed ...there were many other accounts doing the rounds which never made it the papers
Vincent777Legion1 1 year ago
@Vincent777Legion1
Eh? He saw the sniper or the guy who was taken out? Can;t be both as the the shot would've been to wide to see with any certainty.
And, fuck me, packages been disposed off after the worst terrorist attack in our history!
Whatever next!
You're a crackpot.
1878EFC2008 1 year ago
remember people bbc works with the goverment
batten86 1 year ago
Hahaha this has to be the most pathetic attempt of any kind to counter 7/7 ripple effect. Everytime a video like this bullshit comes out it only adds credibility to what its trying to counter. The evidence is BEYOND overwhelming that the attacks were not carried out by 4 muslims.
anglosuisse 1 year ago
@anglosuisse
Explain and expand on this chucklesome hypothesis.
It utterly destroys the already laughable ripple effect.
1878EFC2008 1 year ago
First of all britian and the wets are fighting an unspecified enemy that has no face or voice. Notice how the goverment use overt language to blame muslims.
standupEFC 1 year ago
I don't understand why the conspiracy theory is an insult to victims of this attack. It doesn't say the experience is fake, it says that the source of the experience is fake.
SirFinklebottom 1 year ago
@SirFinklebottom
Because it gives perpertrators and their supporters a free pass.
If your relatives were to die on a similar attack you'd understand.
1878EFC2008 1 year ago
@1878EFC2008
Completely the opposite! It is pursuing who they think are the REAL perpetrators, who are otherwise getting a free pass!
SirFinklebottom 1 year ago
@SirFinklebottom
WEll what they 'think' is this source of the insult. If what they said made sense then it wouldn't be insulting.
unfortunately it doesn't make sense.....so therefore insulting.
If your relatives die in a similar attack then you'll understand.
1878EFC2008 1 year ago
@1878EFC2008
My relatives don't need to die for me to understand this, thank you very much.
So in actual fact, the insult for you is that the perpetrators they hypothesise seem unlikely. That's not the same as insulting the victims of the tragedy. They are just as concerned with finding and bringing to justice the perpetrators, in fact arguably more than you.
SirFinklebottom 1 year ago
@SirFinklebottom
You were asking why it was insulting so you certainly need something to help you understand.
I'm glad you don't need your relatives to die though.
They're not concerned with finding the perpetrators though and if you honestly believe they are then you are naive.
Like all conspiracist nutjobs they're just looking for something to fill the empty void of their hopeless lives.
1878EFC2008 1 year ago
@1878EFC2008 You're retarded.
SirFinklebottom 1 year ago
@SirFinklebottom
Lol, accept my apologies, the lizard men made me do it! Or was it the jews?!?!
Arrghhh!!! I'm off to my desert island which i share with Elvis and princess diana!
1878EFC2008 1 year ago
@1878EFC2008
Good luck with that.
SirFinklebottom 1 year ago
@1878EFC2008 at 0:26 the undercarriage has been exploded upwards and into the train - this is visual proof that a 'bomber' in the train could not have been the cause - can you understand this?
mooners40 1 year ago
@mooners40
It's dealt with further on. Are you really this stupid or is it just an act?
1878EFC2008 1 year ago
@1878EFC2008 Blair has been paid very handsomely for his lies as soldiers and civilians die for nothing but the profits of corporations
mooners40 1 year ago
was 7/7 the train attacks or the bus attack?
babuchowdhury 1 year ago
@babuchowdhury Both.
lcfc1985 1 year ago
@babuchowdhury
The muslims attacked both.
1878EFC2008 1 year ago
I think Muad Dib is a lunatic, but it was lame of this documentary to say "arabic sounding name" - why even mention that? It's lifted from Frank Herbert's Dune, it's not arabic. It's as if they're saying "an untrustworthy bloke with a foreign sounding name"
handofsutekh 1 year ago
Can't be bothered watching the rest of it. Do they mention the MI6 (or so) involved in a drill at the exact same time in the exact locations? I'm betting not.
OzzyPatriot 1 year ago
@OzzyPatriot
Yes they do, so you lose your bet.
You're a typical nutjob, totally blind to the overwhelming evidence that you're wrong.
1878EFC2008 1 year ago
As if the BBC are going to challenge the official story, why even bother posting this?
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A real terror attack would never benefit anyone but sadly there are profits now being made for a few billion airs, Thats not right.
youraslave 1 year ago
A real terror attack would never benefit anyone but sadly there are profits now being made for a few billion airs, Thats not right.
youraslave 1 year ago
@youraslave
well, you get an immediate 3000 pound payout for a dead relative, even if it happens abroad.
if you can fake ten dead relatives that's a nice year's salary!
ttimothymurphy 1 year ago
perhaps its because of the olympics being awarded to England
I arent joking this is a possiblity, i was deeply involved in 7/7 so i would not make a joke about it
Ackworth97 1 year ago
@Ackworth97
"i was deeply involved in 7/7 "
did you write the script?
ttimothymurphy 1 year ago
@ttimothymurphy I did indeed give my insight into what happened but i did not write the script
Ackworth97 1 year ago