Wow. You're an ignorant bastard. Bobby Sands was trying to gain political notation by peaceful means. Ghandi did the same thin except he got shot. Before you start making moronic comments, read and get the full story before you start calling people terrorists. I think the only terrorist here is you, especially with your ignorant tags.
Well done to you sir, for highlighting a disgraceful monument to a terrorist piece of fanatical Stalinist scum. Sands was indeed a terrorist who was imprisoned for the possession of firearms and membership of an illegal terrorist organisation which aimed at usurping democracy. The IRA throughout its history has shown support for National Socialism, Maoism and FARC guerrillas in Columbia. Allright thinking Americans should be making astand against this terrorist filth and their reptile apologists
Pity 9/11 didn't happen in Boston.LOL LOL.Yankee fuckers, stop murdering children in the middle east, 50,000 and counting.Marine = paedophile burger flipper.
Well done to the people of Connecticut, thank you for posting this video SvenVonErick only for you buddy we would never have known ir was there.We all shall make a pilgrimage there on the 5th of May. Thank you again Sven and to the people of Connecticut
Bobby Sands never killed anyone and even if he had he wouldn't be a terrorist, you can't equate the IRA with the Mafia. The Mafia are a criminal organisation and the IRA are freedom fighters.
As for the "irish terrorist in the video" If russia invaded and occupied the United States murdered,raped,tortured and plagued innocent people for no other reason other than pure greed hatered and a bloodthirsty lust for power Would the us armed forces or anyone else that resisted that be considered a terrorist ?
@brianredneckct so that memorial means that those people are not proud of there own country? "The US" or maybe just maybe its there as a sign of respect to there ancestors and maybe there = as proud of there homeland The fact that you think people who are proud of there ancestors arent proud of there homeland is stupid
@MegaSlayerr im very proud of my irish, english, slovak, and cherokee ancestors, but I still refer to myself as an "american", because I wasnt from the countries that my ancestors were from. It pisses me off when people claim nationality of nations that their ancestors were from. Your not irish, your not italian, your not mexican, your american!
@brianredneckct and im sure the people that put up this memorial are very proud of there ancestors and still refer to themselves as americans.The memorial was prob put there for people who were proud of there ancestors and im sure the locals would have had a say in it
a native irish man that died on hunger strike for his cause, on his soul. while fighting a foreign occupattion of his land ireland, fighting against britain. how does that make him a terrorist. the terrorists in ireland come from across the sea. not from the shores of ireland. thats like calling germans invading america, and ameracans calling the americans terrorists for resisting them. WISE UP MORON
its a good job ,i wasn,t standing next to you pal , because i would have sent your teeth down to visit your stomach, you fucking asshole , and another thing pal , we the irish helped make this country what it is , not the british,, if i were you , i would say nothing , t,ill i heard more
you stupid fucking american bobby sands was a soilder of irish republican army we are not terrorist how about we come over there and take ye out check under your car nexttime your an orange man ye donkey
1775 - 1783 youes were fighting for independence against the brits, the same brits bobby sands was fighting,have a good think to yourself when you call people terrorists,
Bobby Sands was arrested for being in a car with 4 other people and 1 handgun , sentanced without trial or charge , died on hunger strike for a cause he believed in , what is your cause besides talking nonsense ,
im from hartford and belfast and bobby sands is not a terrorist he was a hunger striker who died for what he believed in like americas founding fathers and never blew up a bomb in his life tiocfadth ar la
I agree with most of the stuff you have on your youtube profile, but if you call irish terrorists, then aren't our founding fathers terrorists as well?
freadom fighters (discluding Muslim extremists) who are called "terrorists" are just enemies of big government.
@manicbassa im irish-american, and am pretty much for your movement, im just sick of so many people here who are up tight with nationalism for the countries their ancestors were from, instead of the country that they are actually from.
its like when us irish americans say "tiocfaidh ar la", what the hell does that meen that OUR day will come? we're not enduring any hardships, you guys are. its just ignorant on our part.
Bobby Sands was a freedom fighter and a hero ,do you call the people who fought for Americas freedom from the Brits Terrorists too? I dont even know why i bother commenting here.
"As I assure the families of the victims and the injured of my spiritual closeness, I condemn in the strongest terms these abominable acts of terrorism,"
"We robbed the Irish people of their language and their literature, and we attempted to rob them of their Church. We colonised Ireland - especially the north - with people loyal to the Crown and the Protestant faith, and we persecuted the native Irish when they would not conform to our religion. We drove Roman Catholics into exile, and killed thousands of men, women and children - and we invoked God as our justification"
only people well known and respected have monuments erected for them to let people to know world wide what they stood for and what wrong doings where inflicted by others upon them i really dont know what the fuck you made this for, you fucking prick!
who are you calling terrorists. if you showed a bit more intelligence on the issue you would know who really caused the terror in ireland.....the british soldiers. when a government murders and creates fear among the people that is true terrorism
I am not your friend,I am very particular as who I call friend;and if you were trying to get a rise out of me then again you are so sadly mistaken.There are no points I would indicate to you and as for the"equipment"
to compose a reasoned retort all I can think to say is you know nothing response,take a pill and go lie down.
Lol..'clearly' I have not got "a rise" out of you.
Well, my good friend, from that response one can only conclude that you either agree with my comments or do not possess the wherewithal to refute them.
"Yet people who benefit from all this now viciously defy Westminster, purporting to act as though they were an elected government; people who spend their lives sponging on Westminster and British democracy and then systematically assault democratic methods. Who do these people think they are?"
Well, WRT Sands. Cabinet papers released yesterday show that, the Baroness offered huge concessions to the IRA and Gerry Adams to prevent these 10 men killing themselves and ....the IRA and Gerry Adams refused. They died because of the IRA and Mr Adams!! It was within their power to stop it and they wanted more death, even their own. What sort of filth are they? The hunger strikers were not even told nor given an option!!!
I state again, I'm afraid this is simply a monument to American naivety.
This man was a terrorist who would have cheerfully blown the good people of Hartford to pieces in a heart beat if he thought it would further his aim: to subvert democracy by force of arms.
However, I suppose it does give the local dogs somewhere to discharge their business.
It's what Bobby would have wanted (and deserved).
Any "democracy" that supports racism, facism, and terrorism, (internment and killing unarmed civilians) should be wiped from the face of the earth. The IRA are no different from the Continental army and the Militias of the US back in the Revolution.
The IRA, when they weren't inflicting punishment beatings on their own community, were shooting off-duty police officers in the back of the head in front of their families or blowing them to pieces from a safe distance.
They murdered 1707 people in total, including 47 children and 90 pensioners.
Your comments are at best laughable and at worst despicable.
If you'd like an example of support for racism, fascism, or terrorism I suggest you look no further than the name Sean Russell.
In 1940, Russell supplied the Nazis with the names of 3,700 Irish Jews in return for the promise of military aid to attack the UK (the only remaining European democracy still fighting Germany).
Russell was chief of staff of the IRA and died in the hold of a Nazi u-boat.
A corporal in the Duke of Lancaster's regiment became the first British soldier ever to be convicted of a war crime yesterday as a court martial heard that he and his colleagues systematically abused prisoners at a detention centre in southern Iraq.
One civilian was killed and others tormented brutally while officers, including the most senior to be brought before a court martial in modern times, did nothing to stop the abuse, it was claimed.
You cannot possibly argue that 50% of Ireland was taking armed resistance against Cromwell. You can check these statements as well, they are credible. I believe these facts are go a little beyond your average wolfe tones song.
Can you provide one eyewitness source to substantiate any claims that Parliamentary troops either ordered or were involved in the deaths of non-combatants during their conquest of Ireland?
Besides, no record shows 50% of the civilian population dying from this outbreak. Even if 20% of the population was killed by sword that would still be unacceptable for your 17th century tactics.
The first wave of the bubonic plague in England happened years before Oliver. Show me a record that states that 50% of the Irish population was wiped out solely because of a famine between 1641-1652. Any famine that did occur during this time is in no scale with the great famine and the bubonic plague. What you're claiming is complete rubbish.
I already answered this question. I know you would like to think that i find these deaths funny I do not. So quit putting it in your context. For a man who loves citation, I thought you would have learned that by now.
"You know whats funny? All the stuff we got away with and the prominence we now enjoy. I would say 30 years of bombing Warrignton, Baltic Exchange, etc. was worth it".
It certainly seems like you find the child murders in Warrington "funny".
"massacre, banish and destroy the Catholic inhabitants, if they did resist I hope to be free from the misery and desolation, blood and ruin that shall befall them, and shall rejoice to exercise the utmost severity against them." -Oliver Cromwell
The important part of the quotation you put forward from Cromwell is "if they did resist".
This means if they were 'in arms' or combatants. It only reinforces my point.
Therefore I will ask again....
Can you provide one eyewitness source to substantiate any claims that Parliamentary troops either ordered or were involved in the deaths of non-combatants during their conquest of Ireland?
What I find funny is that the people responsible are now working in Stormont. It was a stalemate Oliver, if the IRA was defeated they wouldnt have political power. No one was punished and Good Friday brought us legitimacy and republican prisoners were released, thanks!
I think not. I think chaps like Brendan Hughes would disagree with you - years in prison, wife left him for another man, failed hunger strike, died a broken man reliant on the British benefits system.
Lol....the IRA do not have political power, unless you're telling me that Sinn Fein are the IRA.
However, there still remains my unanswered question....
How many victorious 'armies' do you know that handed over their weapons?
Not one thing that you have written even remotely proves that Parliamentary troops either ordered or were involved in the deaths of non-combatants during their conquest of Ireland.
And Oliver, I know how to read and I am very well informed on the conflict being in the area many times. Im tired of your literary references, why don't you join a book club if you haven't already? Or maybe you can live somewhere as a discriminated minority then write a book about how you feel.
As do Irish writers like Kevin Myers who maintains that the Provisional IRA campaign was pointless and inflicted years of unnecessary misery onto the lives of thousands of people.
What did the Nationalist/Republican community get from the Belfast agreement that they could not have had in 1969?
15-20% of the Irish population was wiped out during the Cromwellian conquest. Catholics were shipped to Connacht and forced to live there. They lost 52% of their land regardless if they participated in rebellion or not. This is from Confederate Catholics at war by Padraig Lenihan.
My friend, Cromwell and his army went to Ireland to pacify the country and they did so most successfully - 17th Century style.
Ireland and its popular presented a clear threat to the Parliamentary regime in England.
What did you expect them to do?
Furthermore I put it to you that Cromwell and his army had no policy of killing non-combatants and, aside from those caught in the crossfire, they didn't.
"About 504,000 the Irish perished and were wasted by the sword, hardships, and banishment between the 23rd October, 1641, and the same day in 1652." -William Petty, The Political Anatomy of Ireland; Published in London 1691.
Now that is more than the number of Irish soldiers who fought during this time. A further 100,000 reported by Petty, were transported for labor in colonies. That means nearly 50% of Ireland was depopulated within 11 years.
I love how the "famine" lasted throughout the Cromwellian conquest, the ended around the same time. Interesting. How would you explain 100,000 (including woman and children) innocent people being shipped into slavery? Cromwell was a war criminal. You deny this because of his other achievements. You would not want to taint such an important figure in England. But those are not just 17th century tactics my friend, those are barbaric tactics.
Can you provide one eyewitness source to substantiate any claims that Parliamentary troops either ordered or were involved in the deaths of non-combatants during their conquest of Ireland?
If you had listened the first time, William Petty is an eyewitness because he served under Cromwell in Ireland read his statement again..."About 504,000 were wasted by the sword and banishment." This is not from the Irish side and he still states that non-combatants died in an unnecessary number. Get it through your head Oliver and stop living off the propaganda of your glorious Cromwell. Remember, this is a man who served with him.
antrim,derry,armagh,tyrone,fermanagh and CO down are still under ocupation you ignorant bastard. there is still many of out brave volunteers interned by you brit bastards and still being denied political status.
look in a fucking paper some time. would you like the link to the belfast telegraph or any of the others in the ocupied 6?
the 4 boys from derry are still being held on trumped up bullshite charges from the garda.
loyalist are still killing catholics,catholics are still being tormented
This man narrating with the camera most likely has no idea what hes talking about. Bobby Sands is only thought of as a terrorist in the US by idiots who took the BBC perception. He is in no way in the classifacation of al-qaeda, even if you think hes a terrorist. Sands never killed a civilian and fought the British presence there. You would do the same if occupied and bullied by a corrupt and mudering government. Plus many in the US payed tribute to him including local state governments.
well they were registered by the federal government. However the New Jersey state senate held a moment of silence. Regardless of government, money being raised for them in various pubs and restaraunts ive been to in major US cities. Boston, New York, Chicago. And if the IRA had lost, then catholics would not be able to have their own voice in government. This is the source of conflict. Catholics were denied civil rights and they now have them in government.
Since 9/11 I've met many Americans who have apologised for any misguided support (no matter how trivial) afforded to IRA terrorists. They were embarrassed.
Roman Catholics have always had the right to vote in Northern Ireland.
Thankfully now they have chosen to take their place in the British assembly helping to administer rightful and democratic British rule in that part of the UK.
The IRA's goal was a United Ireland - they lost, that is the reality my friend.
The IRA is in no way like al-qaeda. They warned of impending attacks in high risk areas for civilians in hope of no innocent casualties. And if the IRA had lost, then McGuiness would not have the number 2 spot. And Sinn Fein would not be growing in power throughout the island. Now that Republicanism has taken political power, our goals can be much easier to achieve. Especially when many immigrants (many happen to be catholic) are seeking the right to vote.
Please spare us the sad stories about your grandmother - what rubbish.
Was her thatched cottage burned by the black and tans too?
Some within the Catholic community maintain the victim routine whilst claiming to the full from the British benefit system and the NHS.
They refuse to participate in the state school system opting instead for exclusively Roman Catholic institutions run by the RC church. They still receive the same level of funding from the British taxpayer.
To tell you the truth oliver, it doesent make a bit of difference under what rule the north is under. Hell, you cant even tell the borders around their anymore. But you cannot say the IRA was defeated when like mentioned before, ex members are running local government and equal rights have been retained, which would not have been granted unless we fought back. Haha these "murderers" you speak are free of persecution and playing the political game. Republicans are now a legitimate voice.
Theres no more use for violence. While the IRA disarmed the British troops tore down their observation towers and headed home. As long as most affairs are addressed by the actual people living there im fine with that but the struggle was necessary in order to live free of sectarian grasp.
I too am glad that Republicans are now out of the closet and playing ball within the assembly at Stormont. They're drawing salaries from their British paymasters out in the open now, instead of behind the backs of their 'comrades' as touts and informers.
They're even helping to administer the very British state against which their failed 'armed struggle' was directed.
You know whats funny? All the stuff we got away with and the prominence we now enjoy. I would say 30 years of bombing Warrignton, Baltic Exchange, etc. was worth it. Oh, and you never addressed my Oliver Cromwell reference and all the "honorable" things he did. Would you care to tell me how you can call one group such murderers when you take the name of a man who killed more innocent people in a shorter amount of time?
Well, it's a sad reflection on whatever you have that passes for a moral compass if you find the murder of those two children in Warrington "funny".
As for Cromwell, I will ask you this....
Can you provide one eyewitness source to substantiate any claims that Parliamentary troops either ordered or were involved in the deaths of non-combatants during their conquest of Ireland?
Please provide a name and details of their observations.
You know who cant wait to get out of the North as much as the republicans? The Brits. This province has been nothing but trouble and an economic drain for them. But the world would have blamed them if they had left abruptly and a bloodbath between Catholics and protestants followed. By the way, my argument about catholic rights was not of voting. It had more to do with my grandmother being forced to walk many miles to school in a rural area while the protestant children passed her in the bus.
Lol....I didn't know the Republicans couldn't wait to get out of Northern Ireland.
I assume you mean the pro-Unionist majority in Northern Ireland when you use the term "Brits"? They will not be leaving my friend. I suggest you read David Cameron's latest speeches.
Northern Ireland is part of the UK and that will not change (the recent demise of the "Celtic Tiger" only serves to confirm that).
When I use the term "Brits" I am referring to the government based in London. If ties with the unionists in Belfast are so good with the executive government in London, then there wouldnt be loyalists rioting and burning buses much more than the catholics do now. And of course Cameron would say that, he belongs to the Conservative party thats their policy. Many other parties have called for withdrawal for decades.
You see my friend, it is injustice like that which has sparked violence. I find it funny how you so easily can call the IRA terrorists when Oliver is in your user name. I assume this is a reference to Oliver Cromwell who murdered 500,000 innocent people then forced them to inhabit the west of ireland. With many others being sent to slavery. So dont be so upset if some your own got caught in the cross hairs. Thats just karma my friend, you cant play victim and instigator at the same time.
The IRA ring in a coded warning at 11:58 claiming that a bomb will go off in a Boots store in Liverpool. The bombs actually detonate in Warrington - 15 miles away.
The police have less than 14 minutes to work this out and evacuate the vicinity - that, of course, was impossible.
56 people were injured or maimed.
2 children were murdered.
12-year-old Tim Parry and 2-year-old Jonathan Ball.
Martin McGuiness commanded the IRA Derry Brigade during the troubles did you not know that? And he denied involvement now, but he probably had much say in recent times.
bOBBY SANDS WAS A FREEDOM FIGHTER AGAINST A FOREIGN INVADER, THE SAME INVADER THAT ANCESTORS OF BOBBY FOUGHT AGAINST TO WIN AMERICA ITS INDEPENDENCE, YOU WHO CALL HIM A TERRORIST ARE ILL-EDUCATED AND IGNORANT. YOU ARE A VERY TINY MINORITY IN A CONTINENT THAT BOASTS 55 MILLION IRISH DECENDANTS, THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHOM WOULD SEE BOBBY AS A HERO.
there isant military ocupation still in the north? what fucking rock are you living under. if the brits won you stupid cunt then all 32 counties would be flying the union jack. there is still 6 ocupied counties. do i need to name them for your retarted ass?
you got the balls to call bobby a terrorist. he gave his life along with 9 other brave sons of ireland for the cause of freedom. you are a big man behind a screen. oliver,your just another loyalist peice of shite.
the brits did indeed target civilians. the IRA gave fair warning before bombing public areas.
how about the violence that the brits are still inflicting on the irish today? loyalist scum killing inniocent catholics,children being harrassed on their way to school.
the true terrorists are the thatchers and the paislys and all the other loyalist,drug dealing fucking scum.
warren, you silly cunt. if your side "won" then they is there still military presence in the north? Why is there 4 lads from derry on trial ofr alleged membership in the RIRA? the brits havnt won shite and thats the bottom line.
bobby sands and the other 9 martyrs are heros of ireland.
the british war machine killed far more civilians than the IRA. the brits targeted civilians. the IRA didnt. get your facts straight you thick headed cunts.
Civilians get killed by both sides, its unfortunate however its happened in every war. Plus your facts are wrong. The Brits murdered 250 civilans plus they funded and gave orders to loyalists who murdered 873 civilans. So who are the real bastards in this case? The reason the IRA is perceived as the main source of suffering is due to British propaganda. The first casualty of war is the truth. And the Britsh did this even before firing on civil rights protesters, which ignited this conflict.
By American standards, every military is a terrorist orginiaztion, your founding fathers were terrorists. You dont know dick about the men who died, or what they fought for and dont pretend you do. Bobby Sands had more integrity, pride, honor and dignity in one fucking finger, then there is in your entire deranged country.
These men were not terrorists. They were Irish Soldiers, fighting so that their children could live in freedom and peace. A worthy cause, unlike the brits and americans, occupying and terrorising other nations without reason. RIP all Irelands patriot dead.
Roibeard Gearóid Ó Seachnasaigh was not a terrorist, he was an Irish martyr, he died so that the Irish could continue LIVING in Ireland! Google Irish history you "" Americans
Bobby sands was a brave soldier of the irish republican army and gave his life for what he believed in. as for terrorists the biggest one in the world at the minute is george bush.
"our revenge will be the laughter of our children" bobby sands.member of parliment poet writer an irish freedom fighter and above all a man of supreme courage.died 5th may 1981 after 55 days hungerstrike.R.I.P
as an American i am disgraced that he would refer to Bobby Sands as a terriorist. The real terrorists are the bRITISH
bbass67 1 month ago
ur a stupid cunt mate bobby was no terroriost
headlesspigion 2 months ago
What is your point? George Washington was also a "terrorist". So much for free speech ...
Elephantoos 3 months ago
Wow. You're an ignorant bastard. Bobby Sands was trying to gain political notation by peaceful means. Ghandi did the same thin except he got shot. Before you start making moronic comments, read and get the full story before you start calling people terrorists. I think the only terrorist here is you, especially with your ignorant tags.
dementionX 7 months ago 2
Well done to you sir, for highlighting a disgraceful monument to a terrorist piece of fanatical Stalinist scum. Sands was indeed a terrorist who was imprisoned for the possession of firearms and membership of an illegal terrorist organisation which aimed at usurping democracy. The IRA throughout its history has shown support for National Socialism, Maoism and FARC guerrillas in Columbia. Allright thinking Americans should be making astand against this terrorist filth and their reptile apologists
CosmosLoyal 7 months ago
The fella who recorded this must have a head like a hard boiled sweet..
In his whole life he`s probably never been off that roundabout he`s standing on..
If Bobby Sands was a terrorist, then the good people of Connecticut would not have erected this Monument.. R.I.P. Bobby and all your comrades..
Thank You to all our American friends... Peace from Belfast, Ireland...
BlackMountainScar 10 months ago
Pity 9/11 didn't happen in Boston.LOL LOL.Yankee fuckers, stop murdering children in the middle east, 50,000 and counting.Marine = paedophile burger flipper.
SINKNINE 11 months ago
I'd turn it into a public urinal.
Dalwhinnie15 11 months ago
typical ignorant yank, shows you know nothing about ireland or her history,
maplebanks 11 months ago
SvenVonErick: Vote Quimby
harryfemten 11 months ago
Well done to the people of Connecticut, thank you for posting this video SvenVonErick only for you buddy we would never have known ir was there.We all shall make a pilgrimage there on the 5th of May. Thank you again Sven and to the people of Connecticut
ryanabu1 1 year ago
Bobby Sands never killed anyone and even if he had he wouldn't be a terrorist, you can't equate the IRA with the Mafia. The Mafia are a criminal organisation and the IRA are freedom fighters.
animegalc4 1 year ago
this video makes me weep for mankind
bigbuckingchicken 1 year ago
Wow you are a huge retard.
Lindaofthepinda 1 year ago
As for the "irish terrorist in the video" If russia invaded and occupied the United States murdered,raped,tortured and plagued innocent people for no other reason other than pure greed hatered and a bloodthirsty lust for power Would the us armed forces or anyone else that resisted that be considered a terrorist ?
MegaSlayerr 1 year ago
why is their a memorial for an IRISH political leader in AMERICA.
some of my ancestors are from ireland, but i'm not irish im american. and this isnt IRELAND, this is AMERICA!
goddamn people need to be proud of this country, instead of the countries that our ancestors came from.
brianredneckct 1 year ago
@brianredneckct so that memorial means that those people are not proud of there own country? "The US" or maybe just maybe its there as a sign of respect to there ancestors and maybe there = as proud of there homeland The fact that you think people who are proud of there ancestors arent proud of there homeland is stupid
MegaSlayerr 1 year ago
@MegaSlayerr im very proud of my irish, english, slovak, and cherokee ancestors, but I still refer to myself as an "american", because I wasnt from the countries that my ancestors were from. It pisses me off when people claim nationality of nations that their ancestors were from. Your not irish, your not italian, your not mexican, your american!
brianredneckct 1 year ago
@brianredneckct and im sure the people that put up this memorial are very proud of there ancestors and still refer to themselves as americans.The memorial was prob put there for people who were proud of there ancestors and im sure the locals would have had a say in it
MegaSlayerr 1 year ago
tiocfaidh ar la
celtsbhoy88 1 year ago
a native irish man that died on hunger strike for his cause, on his soul. while fighting a foreign occupattion of his land ireland, fighting against britain. how does that make him a terrorist. the terrorists in ireland come from across the sea. not from the shores of ireland. thats like calling germans invading america, and ameracans calling the americans terrorists for resisting them. WISE UP MORON
celtsbhoy88 1 year ago
its a good job ,i wasn,t standing next to you pal , because i would have sent your teeth down to visit your stomach, you fucking asshole , and another thing pal , we the irish helped make this country what it is , not the british,, if i were you , i would say nothing , t,ill i heard more
macd1916 1 year ago
you stupid fucking american bobby sands was a soilder of irish republican army we are not terrorist how about we come over there and take ye out check under your car nexttime your an orange man ye donkey
cannon847 1 year ago
god bless bobby sands
bbass67 2 years ago
bobby sands-hero of the people! no terrorist. you can look to the loyalists for that.and saggy thatcher!
kathryn8169 2 years ago
No Scumbag, Bobby Sands was a patriot,fighting for his country.
Margaret Thatcher was the terrorist and I hope she is getting ass raped in hell right now .Lying, filthy cunt.
Now go fuck yourself.
kennyworth1967 2 years ago
1775 - 1783 youes were fighting for independence against the brits, the same brits bobby sands was fighting,have a good think to yourself when you call people terrorists,
dan1919breen 2 years ago
Bobby Sands was arrested for being in a car with 4 other people and 1 handgun , sentanced without trial or charge , died on hunger strike for a cause he believed in , what is your cause besides talking nonsense ,
dubbigot 2 years ago
One mans terrorist
Is another mans freedom fighter
Tiocfaidh ár lá
benyboi2k8 2 years ago
im from hartford and belfast and bobby sands is not a terrorist he was a hunger striker who died for what he believed in like americas founding fathers and never blew up a bomb in his life tiocfadth ar la
irelandfan444333 2 years ago
you ass... what would you be if you had foreign chains around your country... probable be a sniveling whinny coward
nsobieck 2 years ago
I agree with most of the stuff you have on your youtube profile, but if you call irish terrorists, then aren't our founding fathers terrorists as well?
freadom fighters (discluding Muslim extremists) who are called "terrorists" are just enemies of big government.
bfbluesniper 2 years ago
sir you are a lowlife.
ogairbhith 2 years ago
SvenVonErick, have you ever read a book on Irish history or "The Troubles" in general? Do you even know what a book is?
gall0wglass 2 years ago
BOBBY SANDS , FREEDOM FIGHTER ,,
1916supermc 2 years ago
Occupied, robbed, killed, discriminated against, and we nearly had our culture crushed.
Yet, us, in our own land, fighting back, are terrorists.
This video has great ratings, by the way...
ParamoreWorshipper 2 years ago
Stupid American.
Americans fought for their independce against the british years ago.
Bobby Sands did the same.
There is no difference.
manicbassa 2 years ago 11
@manicbassa i'm not saying I'm against your movement, but why should we have a memorial for YOUR movement, in OUR country?
brianredneckct 1 year ago
@brianredneckct maybe becasue there are so many Irish-Americans
manicbassa 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@manicbassa im irish-american, and am pretty much for your movement, im just sick of so many people here who are up tight with nationalism for the countries their ancestors were from, instead of the country that they are actually from.
its like when us irish americans say "tiocfaidh ar la", what the hell does that meen that OUR day will come? we're not enduring any hardships, you guys are. its just ignorant on our part.
brianredneckct 1 year ago
fucking yank
you fought the english for freedom aswell if you remember
danielryan89 2 years ago 4
Bobby Sands was a freedom fighter and a hero ,do you call the people who fought for Americas freedom from the Brits Terrorists too? I dont even know why i bother commenting here.
marcusceltic 2 years ago 5
Bobby Sands was no terrorist! Get your facts right asshole!!
roxtor12345 2 years ago 9
Asshole? You`re a hard man on the internet calling people names , you wouldnt say boo to me in real life, how is he a terrorist?
marcusceltic 2 years ago 2
I was said he is NO terrorist!
roxtor12345 2 years ago 2
Good so we agree
marcusceltic 2 years ago 2
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Pope Benedict said of the IRA:-
"As I assure the families of the victims and the injured of my spiritual closeness, I condemn in the strongest terms these abominable acts of terrorism,"
snecklifter1 2 years ago
"We robbed the Irish people of their language and their literature, and we attempted to rob them of their Church. We colonised Ireland - especially the north - with people loyal to the Crown and the Protestant faith, and we persecuted the native Irish when they would not conform to our religion. We drove Roman Catholics into exile, and killed thousands of men, women and children - and we invoked God as our justification"
Anglican canon Nicholas Frayling
Paulsixsmith 2 years ago
If you go on hunger strike, you deserve to die like this terrorist prick did
bertywednesfield 2 years ago
only people well known and respected have monuments erected for them to let people to know world wide what they stood for and what wrong doings where inflicted by others upon them i really dont know what the fuck you made this for, you fucking prick!
rebnard 3 years ago
they are not terrorists you prick
barrybhoy86 3 years ago
you dont know what your talking about
niallbohs89 3 years ago
who are you calling terrorists. if you showed a bit more intelligence on the issue you would know who really caused the terror in ireland.....the british soldiers. when a government murders and creates fear among the people that is true terrorism
northurler 3 years ago
was george washington a terrorist?
twobrendans2 3 years ago
IRA, Tiochfaidh ar la.
MMAK1LL 3 years ago
I am not your friend,I am very particular as who I call friend;and if you were trying to get a rise out of me then again you are so sadly mistaken.There are no points I would indicate to you and as for the"equipment"
to compose a reasoned retort all I can think to say is you know nothing response,take a pill and go lie down.
englishsandy 3 years ago
englishsandy,
Lol..'clearly' I have not got "a rise" out of you.
Well, my good friend, from that response one can only conclude that you either agree with my comments or do not possess the wherewithal to refute them.
Do let me know if I missed anything.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
@Oliver1649 prick, up the ira, bobby sands we remember tiocfaidh ar la
celtsbhoy88 1 year ago
Oliver 1649 you are an arse hole who by what you said knows nothing about what you wrote.
englishsandy 3 years ago
englishsandy,
Lol....
Do you have a point my friend or is it just foul language and petty name-calling you have to offer?
It appears you don't much like the content of my responses but sadly haven't the 'equipment' to compose a reasoned retort.
Can you indicate one point I have made or fact I have quoted that is incorrect?
Thought not.
Chuckle.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
"Yet people who benefit from all this now viciously defy Westminster, purporting to act as though they were an elected government; people who spend their lives sponging on Westminster and British democracy and then systematically assault democratic methods. Who do these people think they are?"
Oliver1649=sponger
Paulsixsmith 2 years ago
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Well, WRT Sands. Cabinet papers released yesterday show that, the Baroness offered huge concessions to the IRA and Gerry Adams to prevent these 10 men killing themselves and ....the IRA and Gerry Adams refused. They died because of the IRA and Mr Adams!! It was within their power to stop it and they wanted more death, even their own. What sort of filth are they? The hunger strikers were not even told nor given an option!!!
snecklifter1 2 years ago
I state again, I'm afraid this is simply a monument to American naivety.
This man was a terrorist who would have cheerfully blown the good people of Hartford to pieces in a heart beat if he thought it would further his aim: to subvert democracy by force of arms.
However, I suppose it does give the local dogs somewhere to discharge their business.
It's what Bobby would have wanted (and deserved).
Oliver1649 3 years ago
Any "democracy" that supports racism, facism, and terrorism, (internment and killing unarmed civilians) should be wiped from the face of the earth. The IRA are no different from the Continental army and the Militias of the US back in the Revolution.
handgunhistorectomy 3 years ago
handgunhistorectomy,
Lol....what racism, fascism, or terrorism does the UK support?
As for comparing the Provisional IRA to the Continental Army of the 18th century....
The Continental Army faced the British in open warfare.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
handgunhistorectomy,
The IRA, when they weren't inflicting punishment beatings on their own community, were shooting off-duty police officers in the back of the head in front of their families or blowing them to pieces from a safe distance.
They murdered 1707 people in total, including 47 children and 90 pensioners.
Your comments are at best laughable and at worst despicable.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
And now they police them. lol.
Paulsixsmith 3 years ago
handgunhistorectomy,
If you'd like an example of support for racism, fascism, or terrorism I suggest you look no further than the name Sean Russell.
In 1940, Russell supplied the Nazis with the names of 3,700 Irish Jews in return for the promise of military aid to attack the UK (the only remaining European democracy still fighting Germany).
Russell was chief of staff of the IRA and died in the hold of a Nazi u-boat.
There's even a statue of him in North Dublin.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
A corporal in the Duke of Lancaster's regiment became the first British soldier ever to be convicted of a war crime yesterday as a court martial heard that he and his colleagues systematically abused prisoners at a detention centre in southern Iraq.
One civilian was killed and others tormented brutally while officers, including the most senior to be brought before a court martial in modern times, did nothing to stop the abuse, it was claimed.
Paulsixsmith 3 years ago
Plus you have not answered my question of 100,000 being enslaved which is clearly recorded. Explain the moral in that.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
17th Century morals?
Like I suggested earlier, grow up.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
You cannot possibly argue that 50% of Ireland was taking armed resistance against Cromwell. You can check these statements as well, they are credible. I believe these facts are go a little beyond your average wolfe tones song.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
Ready to answer my questions yet?
Can you provide one eyewitness source to substantiate any claims that Parliamentary troops either ordered or were involved in the deaths of non-combatants during their conquest of Ireland?
Oliver1649 3 years ago
Besides, no record shows 50% of the civilian population dying from this outbreak. Even if 20% of the population was killed by sword that would still be unacceptable for your 17th century tactics.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
Hilarious....
How can you claim that famine and disease could not have caused this?
By way of example, nearly one third of the population of England were wiped out by the bubonic plague first time around.
Need I remind you how many died from the Irish famine in the 1800s?
Oliver1649 3 years ago
The first wave of the bubonic plague in England happened years before Oliver. Show me a record that states that 50% of the Irish population was wiped out solely because of a famine between 1641-1652. Any famine that did occur during this time is in no scale with the great famine and the bubonic plague. What you're claiming is complete rubbish.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
Check your own numbers....
If 504,000 were killed, died, or were deported (and 100,000 were deported), that means 404,000 were killed or died from disease or famine.
Are you telling me that most of those 404,000 were put to the sword?
Rubbish.
Where's your proof?
Oliver1649 3 years ago
obroll32,
"unacceptable for your 17th century tactics"?
Compared to what?
The Thirty Years War?
The Spanish Inquisition?
The St Bartholomew's Day Massacre?
The revocation of the Treaty of Nantes?
Great big English chips on Irish shoulders.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
obroll32,
Any chance of answers to these?....
What did the Nationalist/Republican community get from the Belfast agreement that they could not have had in 1969?
Why do you find the IRA murder of 2-year-old and 12-year-old boys in Warrington "funny"?
Oliver1649 3 years ago
I already answered this question. I know you would like to think that i find these deaths funny I do not. So quit putting it in your context. For a man who loves citation, I thought you would have learned that by now.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
Here's a citation for you....
"You know whats funny? All the stuff we got away with and the prominence we now enjoy. I would say 30 years of bombing Warrignton, Baltic Exchange, etc. was worth it".
It certainly seems like you find the child murders in Warrington "funny".
Oliver1649 3 years ago
Oliver, I would be delighted if you started arguing with your own words rather than taking the ideas of others. I grow weary of all this citation.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
Lol....I support my points with citation - perhaps that's a new concept for you?
I would be delighted if you would simply answer my questions rather than complaining about the manner in which they were asked.
Let me know when you're ready.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
"massacre, banish and destroy the Catholic inhabitants, if they did resist I hope to be free from the misery and desolation, blood and ruin that shall befall them, and shall rejoice to exercise the utmost severity against them." -Oliver Cromwell
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
The important part of the quotation you put forward from Cromwell is "if they did resist".
This means if they were 'in arms' or combatants. It only reinforces my point.
Therefore I will ask again....
Can you provide one eyewitness source to substantiate any claims that Parliamentary troops either ordered or were involved in the deaths of non-combatants during their conquest of Ireland?
Oliver1649 3 years ago
William Petty (my source), served Cromwell in Ireland. Therefore this makes him very credible.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
More unanswered questions....
What did the Nationalist/Republican community get from the Belfast agreement that they could not have had in 1969?
Why do you find the IRA murder of 2-year-old and 12-year-old boys in Warrington "funny"?
Ref. the IRA: How many victorious 'armies' do you know that handed over their weapons?
Oliver1649 3 years ago
What I find funny is that the people responsible are now working in Stormont. It was a stalemate Oliver, if the IRA was defeated they wouldnt have political power. No one was punished and Good Friday brought us legitimacy and republican prisoners were released, thanks!
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
No one was punished?
I think not. I think chaps like Brendan Hughes would disagree with you - years in prison, wife left him for another man, failed hunger strike, died a broken man reliant on the British benefits system.
Lol....the IRA do not have political power, unless you're telling me that Sinn Fein are the IRA.
However, there still remains my unanswered question....
How many victorious 'armies' do you know that handed over their weapons?
Well?
Oliver1649 3 years ago
obroll32,
Not one thing that you have written even remotely proves that Parliamentary troops either ordered or were involved in the deaths of non-combatants during their conquest of Ireland.
Do you understand?
Oliver1649 3 years ago
And Oliver, I know how to read and I am very well informed on the conflict being in the area many times. Im tired of your literary references, why don't you join a book club if you haven't already? Or maybe you can live somewhere as a discriminated minority then write a book about how you feel.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
I disagree.
As do Irish writers like Kevin Myers who maintains that the Provisional IRA campaign was pointless and inflicted years of unnecessary misery onto the lives of thousands of people.
What did the Nationalist/Republican community get from the Belfast agreement that they could not have had in 1969?
Oliver1649 3 years ago
obroll32,
Cromwell, in his own words written in the winter of 1649:
"Give us an instance, since my coming into Ireland, of one man not in arms, massacred, destroyed or banished".
Do you have any facts to offer or do you rely on Wolfe Tone song lyrics for your 'history'?
Oliver1649 3 years ago
15-20% of the Irish population was wiped out during the Cromwellian conquest. Catholics were shipped to Connacht and forced to live there. They lost 52% of their land regardless if they participated in rebellion or not. This is from Confederate Catholics at war by Padraig Lenihan.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
My friend, Cromwell and his army went to Ireland to pacify the country and they did so most successfully - 17th Century style.
Ireland and its popular presented a clear threat to the Parliamentary regime in England.
What did you expect them to do?
Furthermore I put it to you that Cromwell and his army had no policy of killing non-combatants and, aside from those caught in the crossfire, they didn't.
Do let me know if you can prove otherwise.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
"About 504,000 the Irish perished and were wasted by the sword, hardships, and banishment between the 23rd October, 1641, and the same day in 1652." -William Petty, The Political Anatomy of Ireland; Published in London 1691.
Now that is more than the number of Irish soldiers who fought during this time. A further 100,000 reported by Petty, were transported for labor in colonies. That means nearly 50% of Ireland was depopulated within 11 years.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
Lol....I'm afraid you're still in 'Wolfe Tones' territory my friend.
Tell me, how many of this number died from, as Ormonde put it, "Colonel Hunger and Major Sickness"?
There was a famine and an outbreak of bubonic plague at the time for goodness sake.
The native Irish adopted guerrilla tactics when they could not defeat the Parliamentarians in open warfare.
The Roundheads responded in kind and then some.
What did you expect for the 17th Century?
Oliver1649 3 years ago
I love how the "famine" lasted throughout the Cromwellian conquest, the ended around the same time. Interesting. How would you explain 100,000 (including woman and children) innocent people being shipped into slavery? Cromwell was a war criminal. You deny this because of his other achievements. You would not want to taint such an important figure in England. But those are not just 17th century tactics my friend, those are barbaric tactics.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
"a war criminal"?
"barbaric tactics"?
Lol....perhaps Ormonde should have reported him to the European Court of Human Rights or Amnesty International?
I think you need to grow up a bit my friend.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
obroll32,
Don't forget my original question....
Can you provide one eyewitness source to substantiate any claims that Parliamentary troops either ordered or were involved in the deaths of non-combatants during their conquest of Ireland?
Oliver1649 3 years ago
If you had listened the first time, William Petty is an eyewitness because he served under Cromwell in Ireland read his statement again..."About 504,000 were wasted by the sword and banishment." This is not from the Irish side and he still states that non-combatants died in an unnecessary number. Get it through your head Oliver and stop living off the propaganda of your glorious Cromwell. Remember, this is a man who served with him.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
Firstly, Petty did not serve under Cromwell in Ireland.
Cromwell left Ireland on 29th May 1650.
Petty did not arrive in Ireland until 1652.
Where does Petty state that "non-combatants died in an unnecessary number"?
In short, you've shown me nothing my friend.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
obroll32,
I'll ask again....
What did the Nationalist/Republican community get from the Belfast agreement that they could not have had in 1969?
Why do you find the IRA murder of 2-year-old and 12-year-old boys in Warrington "funny"?
Oliver1649 3 years ago
and further more the brits never defeated the IRA. the provos gave up their weapons the contos didnt.
soldier4freedom1916 3 years ago
soldier4freedom1916,
The IRA submitted to British rule in Northern Ireland.
The provos gave up their weapons, now they are giving up their former 'comrades' to the security forces.
Funny but inevitable.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
antrim,derry,armagh,tyrone,fermanagh and CO down are still under ocupation you ignorant bastard. there is still many of out brave volunteers interned by you brit bastards and still being denied political status.
look in a fucking paper some time. would you like the link to the belfast telegraph or any of the others in the ocupied 6?
the 4 boys from derry are still being held on trumped up bullshite charges from the garda.
loyalist are still killing catholics,catholics are still being tormented
soldier4freedom1916 3 years ago
soldier4freedom1916,
There is no 'County Derry' but there is a County Londonderry - is that what you meant?
The counties you mention form Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK - supported by democratic mandate both north and south of the border.
I know of no military occupation.
Lol....name these Catholics who "are still being tormented".
What rubbish.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
This man narrating with the camera most likely has no idea what hes talking about. Bobby Sands is only thought of as a terrorist in the US by idiots who took the BBC perception. He is in no way in the classifacation of al-qaeda, even if you think hes a terrorist. Sands never killed a civilian and fought the British presence there. You would do the same if occupied and bullied by a corrupt and mudering government. Plus many in the US payed tribute to him including local state governments.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
Lol....
"many in the US payed tribute to him including local state governments"
My friend, the IRA was registered as a proscribed, illegal, terrorist organization throughout the 'Troubles' by successive US governments.
That's the esteem in which terrorists like Sands were held by the US.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
well they were registered by the federal government. However the New Jersey state senate held a moment of silence. Regardless of government, money being raised for them in various pubs and restaraunts ive been to in major US cities. Boston, New York, Chicago. And if the IRA had lost, then catholics would not be able to have their own voice in government. This is the source of conflict. Catholics were denied civil rights and they now have them in government.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
Since 9/11 I've met many Americans who have apologised for any misguided support (no matter how trivial) afforded to IRA terrorists. They were embarrassed.
Roman Catholics have always had the right to vote in Northern Ireland.
Thankfully now they have chosen to take their place in the British assembly helping to administer rightful and democratic British rule in that part of the UK.
The IRA's goal was a United Ireland - they lost, that is the reality my friend.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
The IRA is in no way like al-qaeda. They warned of impending attacks in high risk areas for civilians in hope of no innocent casualties. And if the IRA had lost, then McGuiness would not have the number 2 spot. And Sinn Fein would not be growing in power throughout the island. Now that Republicanism has taken political power, our goals can be much easier to achieve. Especially when many immigrants (many happen to be catholic) are seeking the right to vote.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
Please spare us the sad stories about your grandmother - what rubbish.
Was her thatched cottage burned by the black and tans too?
Some within the Catholic community maintain the victim routine whilst claiming to the full from the British benefit system and the NHS.
They refuse to participate in the state school system opting instead for exclusively Roman Catholic institutions run by the RC church. They still receive the same level of funding from the British taxpayer.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
To tell you the truth oliver, it doesent make a bit of difference under what rule the north is under. Hell, you cant even tell the borders around their anymore. But you cannot say the IRA was defeated when like mentioned before, ex members are running local government and equal rights have been retained, which would not have been granted unless we fought back. Haha these "murderers" you speak are free of persecution and playing the political game. Republicans are now a legitimate voice.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
Lol....the IRA was defeated.
Come, come now, how many victorious 'armies' do you know that handed over their weapons?
The extent to which the IRA failed is expounded quite well and in some detail in Anthony McIntyre's and Henry McDonald's latest books.
I suggest you read, "Good Friday, the Death of Irish Republicanism", in particular.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
Theres no more use for violence. While the IRA disarmed the British troops tore down their observation towers and headed home. As long as most affairs are addressed by the actual people living there im fine with that but the struggle was necessary in order to live free of sectarian grasp.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
Lol....I suggest you check the figures - there is actually a larger regular army presence in Northern Ireland than there was before 'the Troubles'.
You still haven't answered my question about the IRA surrendering its illegal arms:
How many victorious 'armies' do you know that handed over their weapons?
Oliver1649 3 years ago
obroll32,
Just how many of the IRA's 'green book' objectives did they achieve?
I'll tell you....none.
There is no more IRA.
The British Army and the UK administration in Northern Ireland are still there.
As every day goes by, Northern Ireland in effect becomes more British and re-takes its rightful place in the UK.
Why there's even serious talk of the ROI rejoining the British Commonwealth.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
obroll32,
I'll even start you off, the only eyewitness accounts after Drogheda were from the following sources:
Cromwell himself, Colonel John Hewson, Dean Nicholas Bernard (of St Peter's Church), Hugh Peters, and two anonymous spectators.
Not one claimed the troops were either involved in or ordered the death of non-combatants.
Even the leader of the Irish Confederates, The Earl of Ormonde, never mentions it once in any of his letters after the event.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
Oliver, perhaps they were the only eyewitnesses because the rest of them were killed? Lol.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
I too am glad that Republicans are now out of the closet and playing ball within the assembly at Stormont. They're drawing salaries from their British paymasters out in the open now, instead of behind the backs of their 'comrades' as touts and informers.
They're even helping to administer the very British state against which their failed 'armed struggle' was directed.
Some victory.
Quite funny really.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
You know whats funny? All the stuff we got away with and the prominence we now enjoy. I would say 30 years of bombing Warrignton, Baltic Exchange, etc. was worth it. Oh, and you never addressed my Oliver Cromwell reference and all the "honorable" things he did. Would you care to tell me how you can call one group such murderers when you take the name of a man who killed more innocent people in a shorter amount of time?
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
Well, it's a sad reflection on whatever you have that passes for a moral compass if you find the murder of those two children in Warrington "funny".
As for Cromwell, I will ask you this....
Can you provide one eyewitness source to substantiate any claims that Parliamentary troops either ordered or were involved in the deaths of non-combatants during their conquest of Ireland?
Please provide a name and details of their observations.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
You know who cant wait to get out of the North as much as the republicans? The Brits. This province has been nothing but trouble and an economic drain for them. But the world would have blamed them if they had left abruptly and a bloodbath between Catholics and protestants followed. By the way, my argument about catholic rights was not of voting. It had more to do with my grandmother being forced to walk many miles to school in a rural area while the protestant children passed her in the bus.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
Lol....I didn't know the Republicans couldn't wait to get out of Northern Ireland.
I assume you mean the pro-Unionist majority in Northern Ireland when you use the term "Brits"? They will not be leaving my friend. I suggest you read David Cameron's latest speeches.
Northern Ireland is part of the UK and that will not change (the recent demise of the "Celtic Tiger" only serves to confirm that).
Oliver1649 3 years ago
When I use the term "Brits" I am referring to the government based in London. If ties with the unionists in Belfast are so good with the executive government in London, then there wouldnt be loyalists rioting and burning buses much more than the catholics do now. And of course Cameron would say that, he belongs to the Conservative party thats their policy. Many other parties have called for withdrawal for decades.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
I think the executive is doing just fine thanks.
The Welsh and Scottish Nationalists are the only non-Unionist parties at Westminster for goodness sake.
Partition is here to stay.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
You see my friend, it is injustice like that which has sparked violence. I find it funny how you so easily can call the IRA terrorists when Oliver is in your user name. I assume this is a reference to Oliver Cromwell who murdered 500,000 innocent people then forced them to inhabit the west of ireland. With many others being sent to slavery. So dont be so upset if some your own got caught in the cross hairs. Thats just karma my friend, you cant play victim and instigator at the same time.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
An example of an IRA warning....
26th February 1993, Warrington, England:
The IRA ring in a coded warning at 11:58 claiming that a bomb will go off in a Boots store in Liverpool. The bombs actually detonate in Warrington - 15 miles away.
The police have less than 14 minutes to work this out and evacuate the vicinity - that, of course, was impossible.
56 people were injured or maimed.
2 children were murdered.
12-year-old Tim Parry and 2-year-old Jonathan Ball.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
obroll32,
Lol....I don't understand....
What has Martin McGuinness got to do with the IRA?
Are you claiming that he is in the IRA?
Please explain.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
Martin McGuiness commanded the IRA Derry Brigade during the troubles did you not know that? And he denied involvement now, but he probably had much say in recent times.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
It seems you believe McGuinness to be a liar.
Adams also denies membership of the IRA.
What are we to think?
Oliver1649 3 years ago
its all technicalities. Lol, there not doing their job as politicians if theyre not lying.
obroll32 3 years ago
Freedom fighter.
Ignorant yank.
yingyangsang1 3 years ago
bOBBY SANDS WAS A FREEDOM FIGHTER AGAINST A FOREIGN INVADER, THE SAME INVADER THAT ANCESTORS OF BOBBY FOUGHT AGAINST TO WIN AMERICA ITS INDEPENDENCE, YOU WHO CALL HIM A TERRORIST ARE ILL-EDUCATED AND IGNORANT. YOU ARE A VERY TINY MINORITY IN A CONTINENT THAT BOASTS 55 MILLION IRISH DECENDANTS, THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHOM WOULD SEE BOBBY AS A HERO.
dagenhamdave77 3 years ago 2
there isant military ocupation still in the north? what fucking rock are you living under. if the brits won you stupid cunt then all 32 counties would be flying the union jack. there is still 6 ocupied counties. do i need to name them for your retarted ass?
soldier4freedom1916 3 years ago
soldier4freedom1916,
There is peace in Northern Ireland now my friend.
Even Sinn Fein are happily serving as British paid ministers in a Unionist dominated administration.
That fact is that the IRA lost - plain and simple.
That's why they had to decommission their illegal weapons.
The victorious and undefeated British Army kept theirs of course.
If you wanted to see what a real undefeated army looks like you should have watched the RIR homecoming parade in Belfast on 02-11-08.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
you got the balls to call bobby a terrorist. he gave his life along with 9 other brave sons of ireland for the cause of freedom. you are a big man behind a screen. oliver,your just another loyalist peice of shite.
soldier4freedom1916 3 years ago
oliver,your a thick headed fucking cunt.
the brits did indeed target civilians. the IRA gave fair warning before bombing public areas.
how about the violence that the brits are still inflicting on the irish today? loyalist scum killing inniocent catholics,children being harrassed on their way to school.
the true terrorists are the thatchers and the paislys and all the other loyalist,drug dealing fucking scum.
soldier4freedom1916 3 years ago
Hey soldierofcowardice, what part of being beat dont you understand? the filthy bastard scum lost, our team won! Get over it you sore loser!
warrenhobb 3 years ago
warren, you silly cunt. if your side "won" then they is there still military presence in the north? Why is there 4 lads from derry on trial ofr alleged membership in the RIRA? the brits havnt won shite and thats the bottom line.
soldier4freedom1916 3 years ago
Hey supersonicsid, there is no military presence in Northern Ireland and yes, our team won. Ira terrorist scum, nil pointe.....the Empire 1
warrenhobb 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Like I stated earlier, I'm afraid this is simply a monument to American naivety.
This man was a terrorist who would have blown the people of Hartford to pieces in a heart beat if he thought it would further his aims.
However, I suppose it does give the local dogs somewhere to discharge their business.
It's what Bobby would have wanted (and deserved).
Oliver1649 3 years ago
hes not a terroirst dumbass hes a irish hero look your shit up.
mugmugmug11 3 years ago 2
bobby sands and the other 9 martyrs are heros of ireland.
the british war machine killed far more civilians than the IRA. the brits targeted civilians. the IRA didnt. get your facts straight you thick headed cunts.
RIP BOBBY.
see you on the otherside Mo chara
soldier4freedom1916 3 years ago
soldier4freedom1916,
The British Army killed a total of 296 people during the 'Troubles', 151 of them were civilians.
The IRA murdered a total of 1707 people, 516 of them were civilians.
It seems you are the one who needs to "get your facts straight".
Chuckle.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
Civilians get killed by both sides, its unfortunate however its happened in every war. Plus your facts are wrong. The Brits murdered 250 civilans plus they funded and gave orders to loyalists who murdered 873 civilans. So who are the real bastards in this case? The reason the IRA is perceived as the main source of suffering is due to British propaganda. The first casualty of war is the truth. And the Britsh did this even before firing on civil rights protesters, which ignited this conflict.
obroll32 3 years ago
obroll32,
Let's deal with facts shall we?:
From the CAIN database, recognized by both British and Irish governments:
The IRA murdered a total of 1707 people during the 'Troubles', 516 of which were civilians.
By way of comparison, the British Army killed 296 people, 151 of which were civilians.
The IRA murdered 47 children and 90 pensioners.
They also murdered 341 Roman Catholics (from the very community they claimed to protect) almost 100 more than the British Army.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
obroll32,
The reason why the IRA is perceived as the main source of suffering is simple....
They were.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
obroll32,
By the way, the UVF and the UDA combined murdered 539 people.
The Republican paramilitaries (combined) murdered 2056 people.
I suggest you check the sources of your 'information' my friend.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
By American standards, every military is a terrorist orginiaztion, your founding fathers were terrorists. You dont know dick about the men who died, or what they fought for and dont pretend you do. Bobby Sands had more integrity, pride, honor and dignity in one fucking finger, then there is in your entire deranged country.
Ganjus 3 years ago 2
FREEDOM FIGHTERS ,, tiocfaidh ar la
1916supermc 3 years ago 3
You do not know what your talking about
My uncle was one of the hungerstrikers and gave alot up for the freedom of others!
Do your research before you post your video or coments.
Patrick McDonnell
popcans400 3 years ago 3
These men were not terrorists. They were Irish Soldiers, fighting so that their children could live in freedom and peace. A worthy cause, unlike the brits and americans, occupying and terrorising other nations without reason. RIP all Irelands patriot dead.
TriLeacAbu 3 years ago 3
Roibeard Gearóid Ó Seachnasaigh was not a terrorist, he was an Irish martyr, he died so that the Irish could continue LIVING in Ireland! Google Irish history you "" Americans
rorybreslin 3 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Like I stated earlier, I'm afraid this is simply a monument to American naivety.
This man was a terrorist who would have blown the people of Hartford to pieces in a heart beat if he thought it would further his aims.
However, I suppose it does give the local dogs somewhere to discharge their business.
It's what Bobby would have wanted (and deserved).
Oliver1649 3 years ago
Sorry about my last comment. I shouldn't have wasted my time as I'm sure your a coward and would never post it. Peace.
dpmawn 3 years ago
The crown were the terrorist!!!!!!
ryaned1973 3 years ago 2
Like I stated earlier, I'm afraid this is simply a monument to American naivety.
This man was a terrorist who would have blown the people of Hartford to pieces in a heart beat if he thought it would further his aims.
However, I suppose it does give the local dogs somewhere to discharge their business.
It's what Bobby would have wanted (and deserved).
Oliver1649 3 years ago
God Bless Volunteer Bobby Sands MP
IRISH HERO
TomBarry192I 3 years ago 3
your ignorance is cllearly shown on this subject because Mickey Devine, Patsy O'Hara and Kevin Lynch weren't IRA but INLA
Bobby Sands was a good man who died for what he believed in
03currand03 3 years ago
Bobby sands was a brave soldier of the irish republican army and gave his life for what he believed in. as for terrorists the biggest one in the world at the minute is george bush.
maco562001 3 years ago 3
"our revenge will be the laughter of our children" bobby sands.member of parliment poet writer an irish freedom fighter and above all a man of supreme courage.died 5th may 1981 after 55 days hungerstrike.R.I.P
katusha99 3 years ago 6
It is gratifying to see that the good people of Conn. remember one of Ireland's great patriots.
glenwold 3 years ago 2
your a prick
seanmc1916 3 years ago
Like I stated earlier, I'm afraid this is simply a monument to American naivety.
This man was a terrorist who would have blown the people of Hartford to pieces in a heart beat if he thought it would further his aims.
However, I suppose it does give the local dogs somewhere to discharge their business.
It's what Bobby would have wanted (and deserved).
Oliver1649 3 years ago