Tesla CD Turbine Experimental Test Combining Air and Water

[autopatte]

love it. its amazing..!!

[DonXenapo]

Out goddamn standing! I used to experiment a lot with home-made air and water-driven turbines too. But i used more conventional bladed turbines. I think it may be interesting to test which turbine output is greater - classical bladed or tesla's non-bladed, dont you think so?

[ledaril]

i think it would be a good project to mix only a little water (by venturi effect) as the power source. would like to see you do it since u already set up for having fun. they call it entrainment when you use one fluid to draw one fluid or movable powder into another stream via venturi effect. i believe air with a very little water will spin up more and transfer more torque. good luck with the lab tests.

[ledaril]

i like your videos (love the tin foil hat; good sense of humour). i think kids are learning more because of videos like yours. youtube is a good source of unaltered information. if it were not for gamer videos and "conspiracy foil hats" diluting the searches, it would be very easy for a kid to get good tutoring from people like you who do it for fun (and maybe just a little praise). i have a suggestion. it might help spin the discs better if you use air but use a venturi to add mist. reply?

[MrfixitRick]

@ledaril

Thanks for the comments! I try to add a bit of wackiness to science.

A venturi seems like a good idea, as the liquid water does collect in the case and slows the discs. However, that turbine burst in one of my following experiments on my kitchen table, hehe. (See my movie "Tesla CD Turbine Blender Bursts On Kitchen Table")

[jetpoweredgriffin]

Cool hat!

It really says,

"Your attempted mockery means something less than nothing to me..."

Walk On!

[xHizukax]

excellent! what useless knowledge you have.. lol

[MrfixitRick]

@xHizukax

One man's useless knowledge is another man's treasure.

[jetpoweredgriffin]

@Rick

I'd say he's outnumbered,anyway...

I wonder if he will ever build anything or just waste his time like so many others....

posting unsolicited attempted discouragement on as many sites as possible!

Keep it up Rick-

I say DO try it at home....

where else?

Besides-

it may be illegal tomorrow if it isn't already illegal today!

Thanks for posting!

[xHizukax]

@MrfixitRick nope... One man's useless knowledge is another man's garbage. XD

[bndrcr82a08e349g]

have a good drink!

[AlexAnderFrozen]

You're best steam punk I've ever seen! :)

[marlongooncalvespl]

show 

[DaSheep]

best part @ 3:25 :D

[WindPowerKits]

Looking at videos today. I like the clip, nice job, have a look at my Home Wind Turbine videos and subscribe or friend me if you like. My patent pending system won a Green Design Contest, check it out.

Thanks, Sam

[BigDH28]

Rick, You are Awesome!!!!!! 

[acrowwing]

like if kid rock was a weird inventor

[le2patate]

I know him: BIN LADEN

[Caxalao]

3:24  LOL

[vecnystudent]

5 stars for your head xD

[whatyouwannamyfriend]

are you wearing aluminum foil on your head?

[MrfixitRick]

Sure, the Tinfoil Safety Toque keeps me safe! Every mad scientist needs one. (hehe)

[whatyouwannamyfriend]

Ha i knew it i must make me one too he he... nice videos my friend, keep up the good work!! 5 stars.

[ledaril]

maybe you should do a video on how to construct a foil hat. that was funny to see you wearing it during a serious video. i bet the HAARP people will love the hat. i love the videos they make of contrails for 10 minutes and say "there is the proof". i am still trying to understand how the tesla turbine works and how the kids of our time can improve the efficiency and find new applications. good video.

[TheNavitas]

@MrfixitRick It doesn't help your credibility.

[vaulmr]

Can you use it to produce electric energy?

[MrfixitRick]

This is a turbine and it requires energy to run it. In this case the energy is provided by a electric water pump that pressurizes the water, and an electric compressor that produces compressed air.

The Tesla turbine can be hooked up to virtually anything, including a generator. I have produced small amounts of power with my CD turbine running on faucet water pressure, as can be seen my SinkScience playlist, video numbers 9, 10 and 14.

[fronkenpoop]

Would have been interesting to see the difference in speed and torque comparisons with compressed air and water. With the water being denser that the air, and providing more propelling drag on the turbine blades, doesn't that provide more direct driving force than the air?

[MrfixitRick]

My seat-of-the-pants observations show that the air pressure provides high-rpm power while the water pressure provides low-speed torque. A combination of both air and water pressures gives a bit of both and yields more mid-speed power.

The water drags the turbine speed down somewhat from friction, as the higher density water tends to be thrown to the inside of the case, and will not exit through the centre hole easily.

[gscarecrow]

What I am saying is use your own water reservoirs.

[MrfixitRick]

I do. All my latest turbines use a recirculating system. Look at my latest movies instead of the past ones.

[gscarecrow]

Think of all the chlorine wasted too. It is not good to show this to morons who will copy.

[gscarecrow]

Dude think of empty reservoirs alo the water treatment plants will be runing overtime to everyones water bill expense.

[gscarecrow]

Dude that's a waste of water.That is an expense to you, the water company and us all. I have thought of doing this before in the past but came to this conclusion that it would be EVIL! Can you imagine if we all did this man?

[MrfixitRick]

Get a grip. This is a one-time experiment. I live in a rain forest where it pours 6 months of the year. There is no water company. There is no expense. And it's definitely not evil.

I promote the Tesla turbine concepts. If everyone knew about the Tesla turbine there would be no need for air or water pollution. Can you imagine that??

[Covey69]

I can't help but respond to you about the guy who said it's evil, where the hell do these people come from? lol

I see another possibility for people whom have no electricity choices and want a Pina Colada.. :)

Kidding , who wants a means to another solution that can be had.

There are countries where their is no light after the sun goes down even for reading becasue using it for cooking is first.

[Covey69]

I seen a guy try and attach a sawblade to it..

Possibilities for out of the box thinkers...

[DCFowl]

the average house hold uses 140 liters per person/ 1st world contries such as us uk aus ect. the water isn't boiled of whats stopping that being used

[pommyrooter]

@gscarecrow moron

[blingdorkle]

very cool

[blingdorkle]

whats with the tin foil hat?

[MrfixitRick]

It protects me from eventualities...it's a religious thing. ;)

[blingdorkle]

the world need good dudes like yourself. no one is a free spirit anymore. thanks for the great vids!

[knolleshock]

mind control

[blingdorkle]

he has a freat sense of humor, don't kid yourself. I'm laughin

[blingdorkle]

dude, I so saw that comin!

[marfajad1]

he he he

[jumpboyfall]

WoW ur videos r so cool u should be on tv dude frm jumpboyfall

[jano1516]

Hi, I am from Chile and the Tesla Turbine is really interesting. With my youngest brother are analyzing information about the invention to built it very soon. I have a question...we dont have an air compressor and I wonder if the Tesla turbine can be works with water from pipes and steam from kitchen.

[MrfixitRick]

The Tesla Turbine works fine as a motor using water pressure to drive it. I would not recommend steam, as special precautions are necessary.

A Turbine can be put together with CD's and magnets to work on water pressure. See my SinkScience playlist for a dozen videos of this. Or you can use stainless discs, shaft, seals, etc. for better longevity.

For build instructions for the Tesla CD Turbine, see my Instructables link in the "more info" box to the right. >>>

[sneakytouchyourplace]

dont blow up everybody's plumbing ok

[anyolguitar]

A genius born ! I thinking about some application for my guitar......uhm....uhm....

[caetanojulio]

Nice job

[termimeepit]

saludos Chile, termimeepit.

[MrfixitRick]

Hola de Canadá!

[termimeepit]

Espero con mucho interes ese video , gran exito, adios.

[termimeepit]

Pueddo intentar explicar de otra forma ,de no entender. Adios

[termimeepit]

A intentado con un "motor punto cero "(hecho con imanes) y no con agua. Busque en la internet lo del "motor punto cero". Gracias y suerte.

[MrfixitRick]

Bueno, gracias, entiendo. En Inglés, se llama "Zero Point Energy ". Y sí, espero que la turbina de Tesla hará que un día! Tengo imanes en el interior de la turbina ...

[c9q82]

whats with the tinfoil hat

[MrfixitRick]

The Tinfoil Safety Toque protects me from mishaps. (hehe) I've never had an accident with it on.

In a later movie I will show how tinfoil hats actually do work to shield against EMP (Electromagnetic Pulses). Whether our brains need to be shielded from such things is another matter for discussion.

[termimeepit]

disculpe la falta de ingles,pero ¿a probado con un motor punto cero ? quisas disminulla el aparatage. Adios y la mejor de las suertes.

[MrfixitRick]

Yo no entiendo "pero a probado con un motor de punto cero? Quisas disminulla el aparatage". ¿Podría decir que de una manera diferente? Gracias.

[Xamizer]

LOL Is that an airzooka? XD

[MrfixitRick]

Hehe, glad you noticed!

[WhoIsJohnGalt4279]

So in theory I could hook one up to my incoming water supply and use it to generate electricity every time I use water in my house.

[MrfixitRick]

In theory, yes. I have calculated if every household had one, it would save several tens of millions of dollars a year of power in the US alone.

Unfortunately, it would take several tens of billions of dollars of turbine installations to save those millions!

[SomeoneOnTheInternet]

lol die is goed

[hypnotekk]

lol, a "stirrer"!

[MrfixitRick]

Thanks for the suggestion. It's true that I should try different sizes to see what orifice size is best. Water requires a larger hole size than air generally.

[babakpardes]

You are cool man.

[MrfixitRick]

I am but a messenger of the REALLY cool man, Nikola Tesla!

[morechoppy]

hmm he's wearing tin foil on his head!

im sold

[MrfixitRick]

It's actually aluminum foil, of course, but the "Tinfoil Safety Toque" keeps me safe from wayward saw blades.

[skyaak1]

I for one vote 5 *s for this particular oddity. Ya gotta love a guy who insists on his smoothies off the grid. Sorry about the egg shells...who knows they mighta ended up as a finely-ground wholesome calcium supplement with that vortex power! Did you try a sip?

[MrfixitRick]

Didn't have enough appetite that day for egg-shell smoothie.

Maybe one day I'll try clam shells for a Caesar drink!!

[ActiveStorage]

lol. nice. keep doing what u doing

[kulsh1]

I just wasted 9:46 of my life watching this. Your input energy out ways your out put by far!!!!!!!!!

[MrfixitRick]

Input vs output efficiency is totally irrelevant if you have no grid power and are craving a blended drink!

[astrialkil]

Input energy ALWAYS out ways out put energy . Tesla turbine IS NOT OVER UNITY its not FREE ENERGY its just the simplest turbine that the average person can make/service.

[hornetpalooza]

It has a few advantages to regular turbines too, like not needing a starting engine. It's also less maintenance. It's good for low power output when you don't have access to high energy fuel.

[Quake120]

I think you kind of missed the point of the video, kulsh. He wasn't trying to make overunity and/or make a motor that is more efficient. He is just having fun with the tesla turbine which is very cool.

[petieroman]

is that tin foil on your head?

[MrfixitRick]

Aluminum foil, actually. Better for electrical conductivity, capacitance and the Faraday effect. And even better for theatrical effects.

[benutzer2]

Mighty nice sense of humor :-)

[MrfixitRick]

Ok, thanks. I forgive you for your comment on my Punch Bowl SuperStirrer video!!

[benutzer2]

I'm fair :-)

[MrfixitRick]

Hehe, I appreciate all your comments... good or bad! Thanks for responding.

[Blake99xboxlive]

wow the possibilities for this technology are nearly endless. GREAT vids you should apply for a government grant or what ever it is to have more money for prototypes and maybe even a small scale engine for vehicles or go on a dragons den type show, either way this will one day be powering all types of devices!!! =)

[MrfixitRick]

I appreciate your excitement over this, and you are correct that the possibilities are endless.

However, the last gov't grant I got, they wanted me to pay back 3 years later. I declared bankruptcy instead, and have about $1.50 to my name right now.

In spite of this, I am optimistic for the future of this technology. In the next few months, I will bring a wonderful new magnetic turbine prototype into the world!

[DeNnaceTheMeNaCE]

Dude why dont you start coming up with a concept for a car...

[MrfixitRick]

I have a few hundred concepts for cars, motorcycles, bikes, engines, and much more...and only a few hundred pennies to make anything with!!

Concepts come easy...but money's hard to find.

[DeNnaceTheMeNaCE]

Are you familiar with Viktor Schauberber by any chance?

[MrfixitRick]

Oh sure, the spiral vortex is a friend of mine.

[MrfixitRick]

My movie "SinkScience #8 - Beauty of the Vortex" is perhaps my closest to Victor's work.

[DeNnaceTheMeNaCE]

Rick you have the compressed air coming from an air tank right?

[MrfixitRick]

In this video, the CD turbine was hooked up to a 120-volt compressor and tank. In the next two videos, the turbine runs directly from an air storage tank.

[demondman50]

i dont think there are any alpha or beta particles where you live, you can take the aluminum hat off lol

[7kendo77]

live long and prosper dude

[Hellracer1]

and the point of this is???

[MrfixitRick]

I wanted to see if a bunch of CD's in a Tesla turbine could make adequate power to get a blender to work.

By combining air and water pressure at the same time, I found the CD Turbine developed better low-rpm torque and increased rpm's, enough to function as a powerful blender motor.

In the next movie, the whole system is self-contained by way of a solar-powered 12-volt recirculating pump and compressor.

[steblizz]

I think it's to contain the brain waves

[chudaluver1]

why are you wering foil on your head

[MrfixitRick]

That's the Tinfoil Toque. I wear it for protection against flying parts and evil spirits. It's customary for mad scientists.

The Tinfoil Toque is kinda like a good luck charm for me. So far it has worked, and I still have all my fingers, and other body parts too!

[stand52]

Hi Rick! Personally, I like to keep my foil protective shield Under my Seattle Seahawks baseball cap, because the team is doing so badly these days that I don't like to be seen wearing it in public, so it makes a good toque for the shop. I prefer Titanium foil myself though ;-) Seriously though, your experiment answered a question or two for me that I had about a new type of high-speed marine propulsion that I have been working on lately, and your experiment seems to be saying Yes to it!

[derneuschooer]

lol cool

[eddiefreddie39]

Hey I sent ya a video response, I am going to make one soon. I love your lil cd turbine.I made a quick one, it blew out all the silver from the cds, wow its fast!

[MrfixitRick]

Just to let folks know that the turbine can be fast and furious...and it can blow up if one is not careful! Take precautions, as is outlined in my build instructions found in the "more info" area to the right. >>>

[Ceascevoi]

nice! :)

[PropertyCO]

But egg shell has calcium in it!

[Quicksilvers888]

Why do you have to do this while you can just put a propeller driven by water pressure and air pressure.  Same thing they will both spin and produce mechanical energy. Unless this is more efficient transfer of energy.

[MrfixitRick]

You could put on a propellor driven by water and air pressure. Then it would have to be in a case to contain it. With a shaft. And bearings. And seals. And so on.

I work with the Tesla design turbine which uses only flat discs; no cups, blades...or propellers! It uses a different principle involving the adhesion of fluid to a disc, and boundary layer effects.

And I make turbines with the CD's and CD case as a challenge, to see what can be done with next to nothing.

[unclewooly]

Hey Rick, the mixture of both air and water works very well. The water acts as a lubricant/coolant taking away any friction issues at speed. Have you tried introducing non compressed air into the mix? like the venturi on a jacuzzi. It wont be as affective as compressed air, but it will be free energy bringing you back to the original concept. Well done, looking forward to more experiments

[MrfixitRick]

Hi unclewooly,

Thanks for comments.

I haven't tried the venturi trick yet, although I have a new nozzle insert that controls the flow inside the nozzle better.

I hope to insert a high-energy plasma spark into the mix soon, too !!

[randomNstupid]

Put the saw with the air+water!!!

[MrfixitRick]

Yes, been there, done that too!

I tried running the saw on water instead of air; it wasn't able to move. It ran ok on air + water.

I might show the video, but it wasn't as impressive as I thought it would be.

Properly set up it could be a potent combo, however.

[xyummandoburgerx]

dude!!! that was awesome!!

[MrfixitRick]

Yup, that poor little turbine was good while it lasted! (came to unfortunate end in upcoming video...;)

[AdminOnDuty]

Awesome work MrFixitRick! Still lol at the wild hose - lol, I love that extemporanious RL comedy. I would be very interested in a vortex tube injector and how that reacts with the planar transition at the discs. A vortical injector would preserve the laminar flow of water and air (less bubbles) and possibly improve performance while reducing noise. 5 stars :D

[MrfixitRick]

Thanks, admin! Good to hear from you again.

Yes, I've been thinking about this, and have some ideas. What would a vortical injector look like or how would it be made? Like a vortex cannon with smaller flat hole in end of tube?

I'm experimenting with a piece of wire inside the nozzle tip. It has a blob of solder on the end to increase velocity and for better mixing.

[AdminOnDuty]

I have a few ideas, but Victor Shauberger did a lot of research on this in the early days. Interesting what can be learned from watching a trout :D. You may want to see some of his work.

[MrfixitRick]

I'm quite familiar with Schauberger's wonderful work. Thanks for the suggestion for folks to check out.

The science of trout-watching is becoming a lost art!

[bongman4ghz]

madness.

can you make something that fires stuff with all that water & air presure.

[MrfixitRick]

Would you settle for a video of this turbine blowing up under full pressure and soaking my living room?

(coming up in a day or two!)

[bongman4ghz]

yeah.

cant w8 to see it lol.

do you think you could power a pc with something sumular to this.

[MrfixitRick]

You could power a PC, but it wouldn't be too efficient. I'd have to use a 8-hp air compressor to keep up. Then it would all blow up. (hmmm, come to think of it, it might be fun...)

However, a small, properly built Tesla Turbo-alternator could work for remote locations, possibly powered by propane or methane.

[bongman4ghz]

could you power a small fridge then.

[MrfixitRick]

A PC would use about as much electricity as a small fridge. A small 5 inch Tesla turbine/alternator at 30,000 rpm would easily do it.

Of course, a 12-volt cooler would be easier and far cheaper...

[bongman4ghz]

your class mate.

[MrfixitRick]

Hehe, after seeing your site, I now understand why you asked about computers and a fridge...;) !!

Look into Tesla, who had oscillating electrical devices that produced very cold liquid nitrogen...over 100 years ago!

That would be an interesting way to to cool a PC.

Also, Tesla even invented a disc fan!

See Youtube/watch?v=0I6VUkw_Fg8

[pubtor]

lol! self pwn @ 3.26!

[MrfixitRick]

Hehe, wait till you see the mess from my living room turbine explosion coming soon to a Youtube near you!

[kurydebarcelona]

I just can't have enough of the 3,26 "ohg" moment, is just grate, we realy need more videos like this, and more active researchers like mrfixitrick that put their life in danger for science!!! thumps up mrfixit!

[MrfixitRick]

Haha, thanks, and yes, I live for that dangerous side!

[VanGaore]

AHAHAHA Dude!! That's Awesome!! The air pressure really does make a difference! By the way, when you put the blender on, what's that machine next to it?

[MrfixitRick]

Ahhh, good grasshopper...you pay attention! Yes, the air and water good combo is better low-end torque, and increasing the rpms, without too much air usage.

The other fierce looking black and chrome machine is a neighbours shiny new 120 volt water pump. I was trying some re-circulating experiments with it, so as to not waste water.

I eventually used a 12-volt bilge pump.

[VanGaore]

Oh cool.

But yeah I could see that air and water would work well in the turbine (that is if it didn't blow up!!). The air generally being less dense than water and more energized can travel faster. But when mixed with water, the air pushes it faster and the water (resisting on the CDs due to it's higher density) gives more torque allowing the force to be stronger and faster. If the air was on its own it would move fast but not strongly.

[VanGaore]

Sorry, that was all mostly for myself. =P Am I right? Am I right? =D

And yeah, you killed the egg, man!!! xD Mind you it probably won't give you bad karma... the protective toque will ensure that!!

[MrfixitRick]

It was a sacrificial egg. It died for a good cause, (and was getting a little old besides, hehe)

And the tinfoil safety toque...it saves lives!

[MrfixitRick]

That's about sizes it up!

The blow-up factor is a bit of a problem, as I found out later.

Basically, if the spindle center outlet is restricted, say by rising water levels in the catch container or too small an outlet hose, the air-over-hydraulic pressure can split the CD case.

Or pop the top of the CD case right off, as is seen in one of my next movies!

[VanGaore]

Can't wait to see it!! I'm pretty sure the safety toque saved your life there!! =P Did you the table insured? xDDD

[MrfixitRick]

Haha, the table was the one in the video here...and it's really sturdy, 'cause it came out of a BC Ferries vessel and was designed for just this kind of abuse!

[VanGaore]

AHAHAHA!!! Cool man!

[poonagerage]

haha about time yar recycling! haha ive watched all of these so far, and i was always like... "when is he goona look at his hydro bill???" but good for you doin sumthin for the enviornment

[MrfixitRick]

Hehe, it doesn't cost so much for my well pump to pump the water to the Tesla CD turbine...about 5 - 10 cents an hour in power. Well worth it (so to speak! haha)

However, I recognize that water usage is an issue for many folks. Hence, I will make further efforts to build a totally self-contained solar-powered Tesla turbine system.

[gehaga]

where do you get neodymium magnets from cause ever where i look there sort of out of my budget.

[MrfixitRick]

Click on the "more info" to the right>>>

At the bottom is a link to K&G Magnetics from my CD Turbine website.

I find them the best for selection and service. There might be some cheaper sources, such as directly from China.

If you only need one or two magnets, consider taking apart a shake-type flashlight. They have a good-sized neo magnet. They can be bought cheap at the dollar store, and you can use the LED and circuit for another project, too.

[kurydebarcelona]

egg was fine! did you try it with a frog?

green bzzzzzzz red

mbhuahahaha

[MrfixitRick]

Hehe, fluids change colour...just like magic!

I try to be kind to animals...I cook 'em first before blending!

[kurydebarcelona]

don't try this at home... unless you have an alluminium hat and security googels!

[MrfixitRick]

Keep several towels handy, too, I've noticed.

[weirdstuffanimation6]

wow that is actually blending

[MrfixitRick]

Yep, it's for real!

[markuks]

This thing might have a run for its money when it attempts to beat the Blentec blender and their "will it blend" series.

[MrfixitRick]

haha...Blender Wars...Can one blender blend the other??

I did one video called "Will it Spin?" ( YouTube/watch?v=Qp8-xWAN11Y ), which is kinda based on that show. It shows various objects spinning in the magnetic field of the turbine, like a aluminum pie plate.

[snoopdog68]

looks like a hell of a bunch of fun.

[MrfixitRick]

It was!

And I do mean "was", because this turbine got over-stressed and, well, blew up at the dinner table during smoothie making!! haha (to be seen in the next video...;)