How not to install a wood burner or multi fuel stove.

[thomashenrydavies]

@TheLittleMuc Ended up getting it done by a HETAS engineer for £150. Took two men about 2 hours.

[chillmax]

Nice job, what a total idiot before, dangerous too!!

[thewr0ngchild]

Our installer is HETAS registered and has remained in good contact with us, answering any questions we have. The job's getting done on October 31st, so I will probably post a vid to show you when it is all up and running. They're also installing another radiator in our bathroom as we never had one in there, so we get the best output from the stove.

[thewr0ngchild]

We're having one put in at the end of this month, one called a Dunsley Highlander. We've had enough of gas after it got turned off 5 years ago we never reconnected it because the work that needed doing was ridicules so we managed with an electric shower and electric heaters, and no running hot water. We're having all our heating and hot water running on this system too, so no more gas and no more monthly phonecalls trying to sort out incorrect bills either!

[liamwalters]

Hi. What is the hearth made of and where can I buy this from?

[FahrenheitStoves]

@liamwalters It's reclaimed Yokshire Stone. You'd really need to go to a stone supplier in Yorkshire. There are quite a few over in the Bradford, Huddersfield, Ilkley, Otley direction.

[thomashenrydavies]

How much should I expect to pay someone to drop some pre-supplied liner down my chimney (Victorian 2 storey mid terrace), assuming access is easy and no problems are encountered? It's the only bit of the stove installation I'm not happy about doing myself...

[stmirrenb2500]

@thomashenrydavies probably around £500 plus,cheaper if you buy the liner yourself

[craigshankster]

MORSO Wood Stoves just kick butt!!

[leeat4]

Hi, just had a multi-fuel stove fitted. A Broseley 'Winchester'.8.7kw. The problem is, the stove is only 7 inches from the plastered outside wall, its cracking the plaster all over the place. What do you recommend to stop the heat hitting the wall so much?Just about to redecorate, but need this sorting 1st. HETAS installers fitted the stove, you'd have thought they'd have known to do this when installing the stove?Is the stove far enough from the wall? 7 inches doesn't sound far enough to me.

[FahrenheitStoves]

@leeat4 It really depends on the stove but 99% of stoves need to be further than 7 inch away from a plastered wall. Gypsum plaster only handles about 60 degrees Celsius. Either the stove should have been installed much further away from the plastered wall or the plaster should have been removed and heat proof screed and skim applied. Failing that a vermiculite panel could have been installed to the rear wall.

[FahrenheitStoves]

@leeat4 If the wall is the old type of plaster using browning as a base coat and finishing plaster then the installation comply with regs from a safety point of view but the cracking plaster is far from desirable. This is sloppy workmanship. If the wall behind is plasterboard then this is classed as a combustible material. Therefore the installation doesn't comply with building regs and it should be rectified at the expense of the installer.

[lordshoa]

Your stove looks lovely, I would love to know what colour and brand of paint that was used on the steel backing, as I am looking for the same cream colour and can only find almond which looks a little darker than the one you used.

Thank you for your video it was very helpful.

[FahrenheitStoves]

@lordshoa It was just white stove paint made by Stovax......thanks for the nice comments.

[lordshoa]

Your stove looks lovely, I would love to know what colour and brand of paint that was used on the steel backing, as I am looking for the same cream colour and can only find almond which looks a little darker than the one you used.

Thank you for your video it was very helpful

[FahrenheitStoves]

Have you got a proper chimney or is it just a class 2 gas flue? Is there a proper 8" chimney pot up top? Or does it just have a ridge vent? If it's just a ridge vent then it looks like it's for gas only. If you have a chimney pot you may be able to install a wood burner but quite often with new builds the fireplace isn't big enough. Worst case scenario you could install an inset stove similar to the Stovax Riva 40 as these are designed to do in a standard opening of 16" x 22".

[HabloIrlandes]

@FahrenheitStoves Hi Chris, I'm in a mid terrace and have a Class 2 gas flue, is there no way I can get a Wood burning stove installed? Cheers.

[FahrenheitStoves]

@HabloIrlandes You can do but whether it is suitable or not is another question. You can't use you existing flue but you could install a twin wall insulated chimney. Check out our website and look at the page titled 'twin wall flues' and it should give you a better idea of what i'm talking about. Cheers.

[mwilso360]

Just bought a new house. The gas fire, wood burner or whatever was there has been ripped and and sorta boarded up and a nice flower vase in it's place...... I'm a tree surgeon so have always had a wood burner. My question is, is there any quick things to look for to see if my new house would accept a wood burner. Cos I'm not sure whether it was on gas earilier. The fireplace is in the center of the house.

[kenfo0]

was the liner "hard" vs flex? that's the only thing I can think of when you say "upside down".

[FahrenheitStoves]

@kenfo0 It was a multi fuel Flexi liner and it was installed upside down. There is a right way and a wrong way round to install a multi fuel liner. Instead of the liner lasting for 15 years or so it'll last around 3.

We see many liners installed by builders and roofers that are the wrong way around. They're not usually even aware they're directional.

[kenfo0]

@FahrenheitStoves thanks for the response. I just saw a manufacturer's vid of flex liner installation (I'm going to have to put one in my house next yr) and they said nothing of direction, so I'll be sure to ask.

[FahrenheitStoves]

NI don't have HETAS.  The costs can vary massively but your probably looking at around £1500 for the stove, £1000 to install it with a 904 grade liner, at least £1500 to plumb it......maybe more if you needs rads, tanks, cylinders.....etc. Dunsley and Charnwood make nice quality boiler stoves. Dunsley Highlander 10 or Yorkshire may do you. You need to calculate the room sizes and work out the heat requirement properly though....it's very important you get it right.

[spoon1718]

Can you tell me what a good stove would be to heat the water and heat 12 radiators and ROUGHLY how much to install it from scratch,i currently have oil and it dont do the job right want my fire back,also i dont think N.Ireland have hetas any ideas on this?

[jaydoguk]

Hi, is the flue connected to a flue liner beyond the closure plate, i know that might seem a stupid question but i know nothing about how these are installed?  Nice job btw

[jaydoguk]

Hi, is the flue connected to a flue liner beyond the closure plate, i know that might seem a stupid question but i know nothing about how these are installed?

[Vinoman09]

Hi, Good video - Many Thanks.

What material would you use for a register or closure plate?

Many Thanks

Steve

[Vinoman09]

Hi, Good video - Many Thanks. What material would you use for a register or closure plate?

Many Thanks

Steve

[FahrenheitStoves]

@Vinoman09Cheers. We always use 1.6mm mild steel painted matt black. It looks real tidy, is nice to work with, cuts easily with a jigsaw and is rigid enough to hold the flue pipe steady.

[Vinoman09]

@FahrenheitStoves Hi Mate, Thanks very much for your help. Regards Steve

[kantor987]

your stove is not in middle and I think not level as well

[FahrenheitStoves]

@kantor987 What a strange comment........of course you can tell that from a photo? I can assure you the stove is in the middle and it's as level as the hearth is......which wasn't installed by us. No adjustable legs on the Morso Squirrel.

[joeboxer216]

It's nice to see someone doing a nice clean tidy job, you obviously take pride in your work. Its amazing how many dodgy tradesmen get away with installing appliances incorrectly.

Good vid mate.

[FahrenheitStoves]

@joeboxer216 Thank you very much. We do pride ourselves in turning out and outstanding job. Many people can fit a stove but not many do it nicely.

[s1914]

Please could somebody tell me exactly what a register plate is? Is it the plate that goes across the inside of the chimney to stop heat escaping up the chimney? Thanks

[FahrenheitStoves]

@s1914 Yup it's exactly that.....it;s actually called a closure plate when the stove is connected to a liner and a register plate when not.

[ToTheRim89]

one quick thing, mild steel rusts and weakens under heat, i would have used promatec board for the back. or 1.2mm galv steel. looks tidy though. damncowboys ruining this trade, have no clue what to do and could cause a huge fire.

[FahrenheitStoves]

@ToTheRim89 This is true but it won't be damp and it won't get that hot. The Morso's have a heat shield at the rear and are rated to sit within 100mm of combustible materials. Most stoves are mild steel also and they seem to do okay. Galv is not a good idea as it gives off toxic fumes when heated and the zinc coating fails.

I'd normally use compressed vermiculite as it's the best product for the job but we were really lacking space behind the stove and the baord is 20mm thick.

[eoinmcgowan]

is their much heat off it

[FahrenheitStoves]

@eoinmcgowan Yeah, plenty. It's 5kW output so it will easily heat and average sized lounge or dining room with a fair bit of heat in reserve!