I could totally take this guy by using the soft parts of my body against his hands and feet. Eventually he would get tired of hitting me and twisting me into a pretzel and he would give up! Seriously tho, how are you supposed to do anything to him. He looks mega flexible and I cant even bend down that low to hit him.
@johydee1 the low stance is a common stance in silat, its developed from the real world terrain, see the footage above?most likely the groung will turn into mud puddle under heavy rain-which very common-in the south east asia rainy season so one of the idea is to avoid a slip. if you paying attention you see that the man rarely raised his foot, from the `terrain idea` we know why silat doesnt havea lot of high kicking techs
@themsyeah man, this things on the footage is part of the tradition, i know there are many type of person that solely seeking martial arts for its application purposes, but kembangan (bunga or jurus) is just the way of the tradition. @all check bobee edmond juru 2 for the basic idea why silat masters on the past time created this kind of things.
@themsyeah Well have fun being a gentlemen while the other starts breaking every bone in your arms, legs and neck. But if that little fruit cake knows any black magic then you're as good as dead.
@themsyeah I get it, so you are an english and think that the `so called` groin attack is women ridiculous self defence...man you can even stand for 5 mins here in indonesia, partly because you think that the real fight is what it looks like in the boxing ring. wake up!
@themsyeah a 'gent' like yourself gets into macho BS streetfights over tea and crumpets or because you had one too many ale at the pub and (you can't hold your liquor) someone looked at you or your girl funny...you'll never understand this because your a pasty, spoiled, macho wanker who never had to hold a twisted stance, but you are not conditioned for survival, and u don't know even know how to learn -- sorry to tell u, but the man in this video would literally rip u to shreds...
@themsyeah a 'gent' like yourself gets into macho BS streetfights over tea and crumpets or because you had one too many ale at the pub and (you can't hold your liquor) someone looked at you or your girl funny...you'll never understand this because your a pasty, spoiled, macho wanker who never had to hold a twisted stance, but you are not conditioned for survival, and u don't know even know how to learn -- sorry to tell u, but the man in this video would literally rip u to shreds...
@themsyeah a British 'gent' like yourself gets into macho BS streetfights over tea and crumpets or because you had one too many ale at the pub and (you can't hold your liquor) someone looked at you or your girl funny...you'll never understand this because your a pasty, spoiled, macho wanker who never had to hold a twisted stance, but you are not conditioned for survival, and u don't know even know how to learn -- sorry to tell u, but the man in this video would literally rip u to shreds...
@themsyeah a British 'gent' like yourself gets into macho BS streetfights over tea and crumpets or because you had one too many ale at the pub and (you can't hold your liquor) someone looked at you or your girl funny...you'll never understand this because your a pasty, spoiled, macho wanker who never had to hold a twisted stance, but you are not conditioned for survival, and u don't know even know how to learn -- sorry to tell u, but the man in this video would literally rip u to shreds...
@themsyeah a British 'gent' like yourself gets into macho BS streetfights over tea and crumpets or because you had one too many ale at the pub and (you can't hold your liquor) someone looked at you or your girl funny...you'll never understand this because your a pasty, spoiled, macho wanker who never had to hold a twisted stance, but you are not conditioned for survival, and u don't know even know how to learn -- sorry to tell u, but the man in this video would literally rip u to shreds...
@themsyeah if i were 2 spar u & u left ur groin open i would certainly attak it how brutal i would be would depend on how agressive u were comeing in .maybe whoever taught u only thought of sports & not REAL FIGHTING lol on the street if u leave it open trust me they will take that opening ,only thing that matters is winning fact
@stovall1231 themsyeah is ignorant and don't let his trash talk get to you. Anyway boxing and MMA is just a bunch of bull in my opinion that's why I like traditional martial arts even more.
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@themsyeah that is completly incorrect if used in self defense Pencak Silat is very effective and deadly. you fail to realize that during training they actually use real knifes real swords and often get injured because of how much contact they use
@Flautele FYI this is the element of the earlier silat form, the hypnotic music derived from the animism believe, as I said the earlier silat is mimicking the spirit (animus) of animals and incorporated it in `trance` condition, with the hypnotizing music as it `media`.
@MrSolitude14 Thanks! I'm glad to see that among people interested in martial arts are not only ignorant and superficial. Sometimes the comments on the videos are really bleak!
To be honest, this form looks cool but it doesn't look very effective against other styles. I've seen many Pencak Silat fighters fail miserably at fighting others, and this is just another reason why.
@123UncleRuckus and all, silat distinguish forms (jurus/ bunga) and aplications (buah), I totally agree that the forms are highly unefective in a real fight, the common traditional silat schools are misleading the students to distinguish this 2 things (jurus and buah), its depend on the teacher to guide the students to better understanding.. try to browse guru Bobee edmonds here in youtube and see the jurus buah section of him
I'm no expert in anything, martial arts especially...
...But this is my honest opinion, after very little research.
Among the things I like about Pencak Silat is that all four limbs are utilized. This is probably just my own ignorance, but it seems that the demonstrated technique (At least as far as this video...) would be good for quickly moving to attack or defend.
Also, the low movements and rolls would seem very effective. Quick, low movement is natural for fighting, in my mind.
wei org malayu, aku ne org melayu, korg bleh xjgn wat malu... pencak silat milik org indon... silat milik kita ialah silat gayong.. pe ke bodoh sgt org melayu ne...
@baconcheesejester thats is for somet,real silat practioners uses inner strength to fight.it does look like black magic.but silat is as much spiritual as is does physically.im a practice silat and i have been thought about inner strength training.this is what makes our body even superior than metals.it is not our physical body that attack.it is the inner energy.that is how some pros can attack or even break some objects without touching it.
man, whatever kind of Silat it is, we are still from the same root. Malay Archipelago. i do respect all kind of Silat in Malay Archipelago. all of them are the best! :)
Whatever you find in Indonesia you can find it in other Malay Nusantara world like Singapura, Malaysia , Philiphines and Borneo all their Silat is intertwined and related, Bugis Silat exist in Singapore/Malaysia and Javanese Silat is big in Singapore and Indonesia and Philiphines, its all Malay Archipelago Silat and its interesting and lethal and amazing to watch.
This is so fantastic to watch & hear, I'd LOVE to learn a style like this even though I'm already somewhat advanced in another tradition. The music is deeply spiritual. Can someone please tell me if these performers/ this style is Islamic, Hindu or whatever other religion/ tradition? I'd love to learn more about this.
P.S.: I'm well aware that this is a showcase demonstration and may have some "theatre"/ drama added to entertain the children and/ or the tourists, but that doesn't take anything off of the spirituality in the music and the dance (or kata).
@shatterprone "Can someone please tell me if these performers/ this style is Islamic, Hindu or whatever other religion/ tradition?" Silat's spiritual practices stems from many sources, but I believe a lot of it ultimately comes from indigenous tribal/natural religions (ritual magic, shamanism, pantheism etc.). Especially after 1500, both Christianity and Islam must have increasingly contributed to the mix. Hinduism and Buddhism are also present, but I don't see those influences so clearly.
@piaten it's original from the Javanese people.Hindu, and Buddhism tradition and culture in Indonesia is so much different from the original, because they have their own values and interpretations that already exist among them. U see Bali is so unique right, well that's an example.Islam and christian "degrades" some of the originality of their unique cultural values because of their unity and strict laws.
@piaten im not so sure, but this footage seems show alot of indegenous tribal culture in the movements, as we all know `some` silat influnced by indian/china MAs, but as you see here you can see `phyton` style on it. this one of source of `original` silat which is mimicking the movement of animal(s) derived from the shamanism era of indonesia, an era long time ago before the `indianize` era of indonesia.
totally agree w/ u on that about the angles, that's where the magic is in gaining the most leverage; defense or offense. i personally associate silat of indonesia w/ muay thai/boran of thailand because the two countries are neighbors and the styles are ancient. i really dig the silat stance as others, with one shoulder cocked back like a boxer. so "fluid", that's awesome!
@FightingElements So..wouldn't you simply be doing mma now and just not realize it?
I would personally keep myself centered around the basis of boxing depending on your skill. Are you at the top of you game? Meaning, have you experimented with different tecniques, but now honed down to..might I say, a 2-step train of thought/motion where as your offense and defense can copliment each other? Many things are easier said than done, opposite here. Please bare with me, my english terrible, hehe:\
How would Pencak pan out against Muay Thai/Boran, Tae Kwon Do, or Karate? This is a very unique martial art that really interests me. Seems to look good against it's own form, but can someone give me an answer? Other than, "it depends on the fighter." Thanks!
@LongDongSilver78 it does depend on the fighter in the end lol but pentcak silat or other forms of silat if used correctly will dominate over muay thai, tkd or karate. my father does bukti negar pentjak silat n has black belts n many other arts but he believes silat is the best, it has everything in it. n uses science and math 2 form the perfect angles of strikes n takedowns, which is why a 155lb man can drop a 300lb man with ease in silat, trust me, ive seen it done in person
@LongDongSilver78 It depends on the fighter -lol! Well, actually it depends on the teacher! I would gladly learn from the gentleman in this video, and I could name one or two others. But there are also many Silat teachers who can't fight. The conditioning is much more important than style specific moves and techniques. Personally I prefer internal power principles (like Taichi/Bagua), which are also found in some Silat styles, but to my knowledge these are rare in Indonesia
@piaten That's true. The best fighters do learn from the best teachers, but not as dramatically when they are naturally gifted or untap skill, but everyone's different I guess. On the other hand put yourself in the 'teachers' shoes. Not as much to teach when you're coaching/training an 'ace' righ? As I'm certain that a 'world class' instructor would enjoy just as much, to train someone who grasps the art with a passion naturally understanding and able to execute/innovate concepts involved.:)
@piaten the animal(s) mimicking MA between silat and kungfu is clearly displayed here. In kungfu the `snake` is always serpent (poisonous snakes) while in pure indegenous silat we mimicking phyton (constrictors snakes). Cheers ^^
If one who had mastered any kind of martial arts but cannot control his ferocity then it makes him a very dangerous cum unpredictable person, he can easily kills anyone if his ferocity appear. That's is why in all great martial arts, the grandmaster will teaches his students to control their 'dormant ferocity', thru self meditating. ( If a grandmaster who taught his students to incorporate the martial arts & ferocity as one, then the grandmaster himself is not true master ).
A pet house cat has lost much of its ferocity due to the timid environment but if a house cat is brought up in a jungle/forest then it ferocity is back to its original status. The level of ferocity will depend on the kind of environment that the persons/animals they currently reside.
In hostile & uncivilized world, ferocity could be very useful but in civilized world it is the opposite.. ferocity is a dangerous which sometime resulted in hurting others and at time it kills too.... con't
Ferocity, from my hypothesis ' ferocity' is part of our hidden character. Ten of thousands of years ago, we were once animal like creature, each and everyone had the ferocity for defend themselve from danger. And many centuries passed, and we had become more and more civilize and slowly the ferocity has become of less usage and finally our 'ferocity' become dormant but when danger arises many of us will automatically switch to the 'ferocity mode'.... con't
ahahaah useless, you will not believe if you do not see it dude.., you just need to come to west Java, Indonesia to study it. not everyone can, which failed to be a madman. have to be really prepared mentally.
az zimat were usually made of animal skins that read Arabic letters. some are made of bark, cloth, belt, or ring-shaped that has been given a mantra. in Indonesia still familiar, cause Indonesia is a country of ''belive it or not'' hahaah..
pencak silat it's cool man..!! this is from indonesia, not from another country. immune to various weapons. such as swords, whips, knives, fire, and hot sand. you may not believe, some fighters are immune to fire, with the help of objects called''az zimat'' or amulet. It's not bullshit. welcome in Indonesia.
aw come on please, stop spreading that bs. I'm embarassed as a fellow Silat that you're spreading this bs around the world. If he getts hit with a sharp katana he will gett cut, he will gett his head chopped of. PLEASE. i hate it when people spread this bs.
@sibegopenuhaksi - I do believe that, but using amulets and other spiritual and/ or magical protection is not exclusive to Indonesia. You can find it from there in the east to Senegal in the west, just speaking of Islamic countries with sufi traditiones and/ or remains of animistic traditions, and in many other countries/ traditions, too.
@sibegopenuhaksi - I do believe that, but using amulets and other spiritual and/ or magical protection is not exclusive to Indonesia. You can find it from there in the east to Senegal in the west, just speaking of Islamic countries with sufi traditions and/ or remains of animistic traditions, and in many other countries/ traditions, too.
From his moves, he has strong body & hand movements but not the legs (especially when he stand on one, but look at the guy from Javanese tiger fighting system Mpeg2 and you will know the different). @rujak, @7The7, @bhka111, I have noting personal toward the guy above for i am just sharing my 'experience' with you guys.
@YSN524 Look at his feet, even in the horse stances, he is moving them, it is deliberate and there is a reason for this. By chance, even if he was adjusting for the sake of balance, he is not weak, his legs did not shake. Again, it is not even possible to perform this if you have weak legs. Anyone is welcome to try it and see for themselves.
Look, during the heydays of Tyson & Ali did anyone see their legs wobble ? Look at our currently world champion Manny Pacquiao did anyone see his leg wobble ? When Steve Davis won the 1989 world snooker championship, he commented " this will be my last world champion trophy because my legs are no longer strong, i won't able to have a good stance". Since then he never won any major competitions.
Look at Pamacan, the Javanese tiger fighting system Mpeg2, this guy got a pair of well trained strong legs. In many kind of competitions, on many occasions the loser lost because of the weak legs. Look at Mike Tyson, he lost because his legs is no longer strong, look at all those 'aged fighter',(no doubt their punches are still powerful) they lost because their legs gave way .
@rujak, @7The7, @bhka111 I think you guys had mistaken my quotes. In my 1st comment i said "The guy above has a bad stance ( his legs wobble too often). He can be easily knock down to the ground and is much to his own advantage. " (Look at 0.7, 0.19, 0.38 'wobble a bit') I never mention that Silat's stance is not good, i never mention that Silat got a bad 'flow'. All i said was, this guy legs is weak, a pair of weak legs will produce weak stand. 'cont'
@YSN524 Where I disagree is that I don't see his legs as wobbling, he is positioning and some other unique things to Silat, but you would have to know and understand the older Cimande, trance induced and animalistic Silat, which is demonstrated in this video. If you try to compare to the different exercises in Cimande or other styles, it wont work. BTW I also practice the style demonstrated by Cecep Rahman and the other pesilat mentioned, we use those movements for those particular drills.
Amazing... how many of these combat styles the time has extinguished? Fortunately we have met disciplines as wonderfull as this one keeping the memory of the ancesters and old masters alive... long life to silat! Silat is the real deal, i can tell!
In good martial arts; the 1st lesson is stance. One who can't produce good and solid stance is always on the disadvantage. The guy above has a bad stance ( his legs wobble too often). He can be easily knock down to the ground and is much to his own advantage.
Stance: every professional snooker players have good/solid stance, without a good/solid stance one will not able to produce perfect shot.
In ancient Chinese martial arts, it took fews years just to learn their 1st lesson "stance".
@YSN524 in the original Silat in Indonesia, stance is all about flexibility and how to feel free and comfortable, the offensive and defensive moves are different from the chinese martial arts, there are more ways to defeat even to kill and an opponent in Silat, i suggest you come to Indonesia and learn Silat first before making any comparisons and comments
Universal rule: Foundation: one need to have a strong foundation before you start to proceed to phase II.
If one have weak legs how can he defend himself or much to kill an opponent. Look at all martial arts and even in boxing, all these contender need to have a good stance only then they have a better chances of defeating others.
In all sports, every sport men need to have strong legs, even in ice skating, ballet dancing & snooker game as well....it's a universal rule.
@YSN524 Soory, but to even be able to perform what the pesilat in this clip is doing, you HAVE to have strong legs. Flow, power and intent is there. Bricks crumble, a tree bends and yields. If this pesilat WERE thrown, he would simply keep flowing, roll and rip someones eyes from their head.A flowing fighter is harder to touch as well.
@7The7Green7 I agree with everything you're saying, just like to add one point: There's NO contradiction between having a really strong stable stance, and flowing! Au contraire, some of the most stable fighters I've seen and met, are also some of the best at flowing movement. But of course they never overextend, and stay within their strong range of motion, while flowing -just like this guy! The best flow comes from a firm, yet adaptable root!
@YSN524 Hey, Mrs. "legs wobble too often"! You're right stance/root is most important. But your knowledge on the matter seems mostly theoretical. This guy's stance looks as good as any I've ever seen, and most kung fu ppl I've seen, especially in the west, can learn a thing or two from the way he generates power and structure stability from his legs and gua. So until you actually experience what stance and root is in real life, I suggest you refrain from spreading your misconceptions in public!
@maddehs no you really could not what he is doing is practicing his drawing stances. They are meant to cause the opponent to think you are off center or unable to defend your self. Then once you attack you are distracted by a punch to the face, taken to the ground and finished by a unarmed strike or one of the many weapons they train with
Pencak Silat is namely kind of martial Art like Karate, Kali, Judo, Aikido,KungFu & etc.. is under 1 roof called self defence… the mother of pencak silat is BELA DIRI & the history of BELA DIRI in Central JAVA (Kejawen) is much more ealier than pencak silat in west Sumatra & West Java….
its really nice technique i hope i can learn about traditional silat bettr cause in this modern age silat in the city is lost their traditional style and more related to the tenaga dalam it self! alus pisan si akang kudu ngelmu ka pelosok sunda yeuh!
lot of ego and flagwaving flying around, can't we just appreciate this performance of silat, wich is a nice blend of practical defense, with artistic elements and a touch of the mystical?
if he use the "tenaga dalam"...he dont event need to touch the rival to attack..silat more than just this...its deadly when they start using the energy"tenaga dalam"....mental2 dehh lu pade tar heu heu..mantap lah si akang....
to Brazo4life....thats a pretty balsy comment...i think ur mistaken it doesnt matter where u come from, what back round in america because half the people in america originated from other countries....its diverse in every way so for u to say a dumb comment then thats ur call....but if it just so happens that u get hit or killed for a stupid remark such as that then ur digging ur own grave...
Yeaah. That`s why many people hate Americans. Always thinking they are the best. When they are really not. They only do, and dont think. That makes them animals.
@Brazo4life keep telling yourself that from your dirt hut. Maybe they hate us because we are the leaders of the free world, and have the most powerful military in the history of this planet. everyone hates us,but we are the first ones you fun to for help when the shit hits the fan.
@man4commonsense That`s what i mean. To big ego`s. I am not living in a "dirt hut" I have a house and two cars,like you can see on my channel. So dont act a fool ,yank. And there is no shit hitting the fan. so i don`t worry about shit! And even less about your army ,wich can`t even win from Arabs with really crappy weapons. And America still needs help from other countrys to keep up (their) war. Think about it. Pencak Silat rules!
Umm... American culture undoubtably is one of the youngest in the entire world. And we used to belong to the british rule. If age is a factor here, I hope I dont have to spell out for you guys why its understood globally why armerica happens to have the biggest egos. There is alot more goin on here. just keep that in mind
i dont understant why the sundanese is so arrogant with their culture & kingdom. if sunda is older than java, why the island is called & belong to JAVA .. not sunda? the majority people in West, Central & East java is Javanese.. don't mistaken by the early kingdom.. early kingdom rise in java is becaused of indian (king Dewawarman) settlement meet west java.. But the name Java island has already there & exist before the kingdom.. Means JAVA IS OLDER THAN THE KINGDOM & CULTURE ITSELF
Sundanese(West-Java/Pajajaran Kingdom) culture is different from Javanese culture(Central&East Java/Majapahit-Mataram Kingdom).Sundanese culture more older than Javanese!
3)In this later form, its development of pencak silat spread outside Java, where it developed the teaching and believed, the use of self defense techniques to reach spiritual awareness as well as the use of inner powers to attain supernatural physical and mentally strengths and its believed in the believed of God powers and strength through KAJAWEN. By JAVA KAJAWEN..
2)It is believed Pencak Silat has already exist by the Javanese people through Kajawen very long time ago in ancient time, long ago before any Empire exist in the island of Java. This could be the fact and reason, the Majapahit Empire from the Javanese people could have conquered South East Asia. The Javanese Pencak Silat had undergone a transformation from pure martial art to be used in combat to an elaborate form of spiritual and humanistic education. Continue..
In reply to 1 inchkisss & those who not known about the Javanese Pencak Silat Culture & Believed..
1)Differently from West Java, in Central Java, Javanese people have traditionally Pencak Silat used ONLY for self defense and are NOT INCLINED TO SHOW IT IN PUBLIC. This is resolved form and due respect from their ( the Javanese ) culture. Furthermore, the spiritual aspect (KAJAWEN) also means as (Kebatinan) is much more dominant for the Javanese people. Continue..
Some Mantis kung fu masters say mantis-style Tend to make people aggressive if not balanced with some kind of softer training.Like meditation, music or painting.(things of that nature)
I believe this is related to what you where saying.
I might as well surrender.(they might try to run away)
but, If cornered they go crazy and fight on with all they got.
Tapping into this animal state of mind is a power we humans have.
I think the reason Martial arts all over the world incorporates animal movements.And whole styles based on diff.animals is not just because of the effectiveness of the move.
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In a state of animal conciousness the body moves stronger and more efective, true ...but the mind and spirit are not clear and it can be dangerous for mental health.
Also, violence is being promoted to achieve martial goals.
Real martial art is not violent and the mind is clear...that is only my opinion..I still respect yours.
@zingaya I agree completely. Esp. in cultures that have exposure to animals that employ the use of venom, you have characteristics of the snake in movement & application. Some snakes are capable of killing/ disabling bison. They strike at the legs, and evade close to the ground. Control the opponent, disable his ability to strike at you with his most effective weapons.
@zingaya Human learning the movement of animals to incorporate into their martial arts is true but to let let the animal instinct to take control of the martial artist when he is being corner ... i don't think it is right. Actually it is the opposite, a well train martial artist will able to control the animal instinct in him, that what make this martial artist a human .. not an animal instinct martial artist.
@zingaya Every 'normal' human being when being corner will process the animal instinct (the ferocity) in them, that's is the nature part of human (because we human was also once an animal like creature ), so as a martial artist he/she must able control the animal instinct in them so that it can differentiate between a 'normal human being' to a ' well train martial artist'.
@zingaya Another point, if by learning the behavior of an animal (mental & movement) and becoming like that animal and with the 'ferocity' of that animal will somehow transform a human to become a martial experts .... then all the animal trainers ( of zoos, circus), animal psychologist will automatically become a martial experts.
@zingaya ... con't .... if the street medicine man/martial artist display a ' tiger form of martial arts' and much later he will promote and sell his product ( ' Tiger ointment' ) and if another one display a 'monkey form of martial arts' and then he will promote and sell his product ( 'Monkey ointment') and so forth.
Now the question is, did these martial artists benefited from learning/ indoctrine the movement of animals, the answer is yes but to a ' limited level only ' ... con't
@But2Star But don't take this shit too serious...i really have no strong opinion one way or the other.
One thing i just thought of.: Wen all know what tiger-style looks like and Eagle,Mantis and so on...They are all different based on how the animal behaves.
So (and this is my thought) what would human style gungfu look like?
Probably advanced weaponry right?. Ultimately the military and war-strategy...
@zingaya Many martial arts does have animal style movements, but these movements are merely for 'demonstration' and not for combating. In olden days, martial artists used such 'animal style' movements were used to distract his opponent. Some street medicine man/martial artists used such 'animal style' to impress the crowd and much later they will sell/promote their products.... .... con't
@zingaya Human can only learn or intimate a FEW movements from a single animals because our body physical is not design to jump like an monkey or our hands are not design to claw like an tiger's claws or our legs are not design to kick like a horse ...etc. So the genuine grandmaster will only incorporate a few animal movements into their martial arts which they feel that our body physical can manage to do so intimate. So there is the Pros & Cons of animal style martial arts.
3:40 LOL
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be carefull with malaysia, malaysia can claim this culture
junniquilent801 2 months ago
the writhe of a dying snake after a Thundercat steps on it.
silversification 2 months ago
asik nih
penofajar 4 months ago
I could totally take this guy by using the soft parts of my body against his hands and feet. Eventually he would get tired of hitting me and twisting me into a pretzel and he would give up! Seriously tho, how are you supposed to do anything to him. He looks mega flexible and I cant even bend down that low to hit him.
johydee1 4 months ago
@johydee1 the low stance is a common stance in silat, its developed from the real world terrain, see the footage above?most likely the groung will turn into mud puddle under heavy rain-which very common-in the south east asia rainy season so one of the idea is to avoid a slip. if you paying attention you see that the man rarely raised his foot, from the `terrain idea` we know why silat doesnt havea lot of high kicking techs
MrSolitude14 3 months ago
@themsyeah man, this things on the footage is part of the tradition, i know there are many type of person that solely seeking martial arts for its application purposes, but kembangan (bunga or jurus) is just the way of the tradition. @all check bobee edmond juru 2 for the basic idea why silat masters on the past time created this kind of things.
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no one is going to respond to a coward like you let alone take you seriously.. enjoy
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no one is going to respond to a coward like you let alone take you seriously.. enjoy
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@themsyeah
exactly
reepityou 5 months ago
All others...RESPECT
reepityou 5 months ago
@themsyeah
Why don't you come over and stay at my place (holland) we can have tea and you can tell me i'm a homo.
And then you die.
reepityou 5 months ago
@reepityou lol..nice one!
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search on youtube "debus indonesia" n u'll get shocked !!
bennlonelyboy 5 months ago
@themsyeah Well have fun being a gentlemen while the other starts breaking every bone in your arms, legs and neck. But if that little fruit cake knows any black magic then you're as good as dead.
DaddyWarbucks452 5 months ago
@themsyeah I get it, so you are an english and think that the `so called` groin attack is women ridiculous self defence...man you can even stand for 5 mins here in indonesia, partly because you think that the real fight is what it looks like in the boxing ring. wake up!
MrSolitude14 5 months ago
@themsyeah a 'gent' like yourself gets into macho BS streetfights over tea and crumpets or because you had one too many ale at the pub and (you can't hold your liquor) someone looked at you or your girl funny...you'll never understand this because your a pasty, spoiled, macho wanker who never had to hold a twisted stance, but you are not conditioned for survival, and u don't know even know how to learn -- sorry to tell u, but the man in this video would literally rip u to shreds...
choymok74 5 months ago
@themsyeah a 'gent' like yourself gets into macho BS streetfights over tea and crumpets or because you had one too many ale at the pub and (you can't hold your liquor) someone looked at you or your girl funny...you'll never understand this because your a pasty, spoiled, macho wanker who never had to hold a twisted stance, but you are not conditioned for survival, and u don't know even know how to learn -- sorry to tell u, but the man in this video would literally rip u to shreds...
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@themsyeah a British 'gent' like yourself gets into macho BS streetfights over tea and crumpets or because you had one too many ale at the pub and (you can't hold your liquor) someone looked at you or your girl funny...you'll never understand this because your a pasty, spoiled, macho wanker who never had to hold a twisted stance, but you are not conditioned for survival, and u don't know even know how to learn -- sorry to tell u, but the man in this video would literally rip u to shreds...
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@themsyeah a British 'gent' like yourself gets into macho BS streetfights over tea and crumpets or because you had one too many ale at the pub and (you can't hold your liquor) someone looked at you or your girl funny...you'll never understand this because your a pasty, spoiled, macho wanker who never had to hold a twisted stance, but you are not conditioned for survival, and u don't know even know how to learn -- sorry to tell u, but the man in this video would literally rip u to shreds...
choymok74 5 months ago
@themsyeah a British 'gent' like yourself gets into macho BS streetfights over tea and crumpets or because you had one too many ale at the pub and (you can't hold your liquor) someone looked at you or your girl funny...you'll never understand this because your a pasty, spoiled, macho wanker who never had to hold a twisted stance, but you are not conditioned for survival, and u don't know even know how to learn -- sorry to tell u, but the man in this video would literally rip u to shreds...
choymok74 5 months ago
@themsyeah if i were 2 spar u & u left ur groin open i would certainly attak it how brutal i would be would depend on how agressive u were comeing in .maybe whoever taught u only thought of sports & not REAL FIGHTING lol on the street if u leave it open trust me they will take that opening ,only thing that matters is winning fact
stovall1231 5 months ago
@stovall1231 themsyeah is ignorant and don't let his trash talk get to you. Anyway boxing and MMA is just a bunch of bull in my opinion that's why I like traditional martial arts even more.
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gurubesarisa 6 months ago
@themsyeah that is completly incorrect if used in self defense Pencak Silat is very effective and deadly. you fail to realize that during training they actually use real knifes real swords and often get injured because of how much contact they use
houseofaction 7 months ago
bullshits
TAOTAO3730 7 months ago
Great hypnothic music!
Flautele 7 months ago
@Flautele FYI this is the element of the earlier silat form, the hypnotic music derived from the animism believe, as I said the earlier silat is mimicking the spirit (animus) of animals and incorporated it in `trance` condition, with the hypnotizing music as it `media`.
MrSolitude14 7 months ago
@MrSolitude14 Thanks! I'm glad to see that among people interested in martial arts are not only ignorant and superficial. Sometimes the comments on the videos are really bleak!
Flautele 7 months ago
@all sorry, Bobee edmond juru #2 buah for the correct
MrSolitude14 8 months ago
This is a very violent spirit involved in this art.
rgneufeld 8 months ago
To be honest, this form looks cool but it doesn't look very effective against other styles. I've seen many Pencak Silat fighters fail miserably at fighting others, and this is just another reason why.
123UncleRuckus 8 months ago
@123UncleRuckus and all, silat distinguish forms (jurus/ bunga) and aplications (buah), I totally agree that the forms are highly unefective in a real fight, the common traditional silat schools are misleading the students to distinguish this 2 things (jurus and buah), its depend on the teacher to guide the students to better understanding.. try to browse guru Bobee edmonds here in youtube and see the jurus buah section of him
MrSolitude14 8 months ago
lol..... dude! get a job!
LA6616 8 months ago in playlist silat
@all dont hear the retard hilly-billy malaysians that distinguish silat itu 2 differents silat
MrSolitude14 8 months ago
Hm.
I'm no expert in anything, martial arts especially...
...But this is my honest opinion, after very little research.
Among the things I like about Pencak Silat is that all four limbs are utilized. This is probably just my own ignorance, but it seems that the demonstrated technique (At least as far as this video...) would be good for quickly moving to attack or defend.
Also, the low movements and rolls would seem very effective. Quick, low movement is natural for fighting, in my mind.
Hm.
CalicoYorki 9 months ago
wei org malayu, aku ne org melayu, korg bleh xjgn wat malu... pencak silat milik org indon... silat milik kita ialah silat gayong.. pe ke bodoh sgt org melayu ne...
=..="
sejarah sndri pn xtau...
annoyerboka 9 months ago
the only thing i don;t like about pencak silat is they use black magic
baconcheesejester 9 months ago
@baconcheesejester thats is for somet,real silat practioners uses inner strength to fight.it does look like black magic.but silat is as much spiritual as is does physically.im a practice silat and i have been thought about inner strength training.this is what makes our body even superior than metals.it is not our physical body that attack.it is the inner energy.that is how some pros can attack or even break some objects without touching it.
4mymatrock 8 months ago
Idiot people say " the penchak silat from Malaysia "
but in wiki NOT that not from malaysia
please read full history of penchak silat
supergilaz 9 months ago
@ashnie305
are you have a eye ?
can you read wiki
I know your country no have enough culture ya ?
supergilaz 9 months ago
man, whatever kind of Silat it is, we are still from the same root. Malay Archipelago. i do respect all kind of Silat in Malay Archipelago. all of them are the best! :)
ashnie305 9 months ago
@ashnie305 i'm indonesian, i totally agree with you.
TheStingray2011 3 months ago
Whatever you find in Indonesia you can find it in other Malay Nusantara world like Singapura, Malaysia , Philiphines and Borneo all their Silat is intertwined and related, Bugis Silat exist in Singapore/Malaysia and Javanese Silat is big in Singapore and Indonesia and Philiphines, its all Malay Archipelago Silat and its interesting and lethal and amazing to watch.
MataNusantara 10 months ago
This is so fantastic to watch & hear, I'd LOVE to learn a style like this even though I'm already somewhat advanced in another tradition. The music is deeply spiritual. Can someone please tell me if these performers/ this style is Islamic, Hindu or whatever other religion/ tradition? I'd love to learn more about this.
shatterprone 11 months ago
P.S.: I'm well aware that this is a showcase demonstration and may have some "theatre"/ drama added to entertain the children and/ or the tourists, but that doesn't take anything off of the spirituality in the music and the dance (or kata).
shatterprone 11 months ago
@shatterprone "Can someone please tell me if these performers/ this style is Islamic, Hindu or whatever other religion/ tradition?" Silat's spiritual practices stems from many sources, but I believe a lot of it ultimately comes from indigenous tribal/natural religions (ritual magic, shamanism, pantheism etc.). Especially after 1500, both Christianity and Islam must have increasingly contributed to the mix. Hinduism and Buddhism are also present, but I don't see those influences so clearly.
piaten 10 months ago
@piaten it's original from the Javanese people.Hindu, and Buddhism tradition and culture in Indonesia is so much different from the original, because they have their own values and interpretations that already exist among them. U see Bali is so unique right, well that's an example.Islam and christian "degrades" some of the originality of their unique cultural values because of their unity and strict laws.
lum2ina 9 months ago
@piaten im not so sure, but this footage seems show alot of indegenous tribal culture in the movements, as we all know `some` silat influnced by indian/china MAs, but as you see here you can see `phyton` style on it. this one of source of `original` silat which is mimicking the movement of animal(s) derived from the shamanism era of indonesia, an era long time ago before the `indianize` era of indonesia.
MrSolitude14 8 months ago
02:30 - 02:41 = Spreading apart a guy's leg and ripping off his d*ck? Maybe...
Feldkahl 11 months ago
mcm silat harimau je niii..buah pukul tamparan harimau pun ada..hebat lah,dapat katam langkah ni best btl... :)
TheReebok921 11 months ago 2
some bunch of jokershahaha
jai7231032 1 year ago
totally agree w/ u on that about the angles, that's where the magic is in gaining the most leverage; defense or offense. i personally associate silat of indonesia w/ muay thai/boran of thailand because the two countries are neighbors and the styles are ancient. i really dig the silat stance as others, with one shoulder cocked back like a boxer. so "fluid", that's awesome!
LongDongSilver78 1 year ago 7
@LongDongSilver78 i have question my friend is it able for me to train both silat and kickboxing without getting confused.
i have done 3 years of silat in the past and i'm doing kickboxing for like 17 month's
FightingElements 8 months ago
@FightingElements So..wouldn't you simply be doing mma now and just not realize it?
I would personally keep myself centered around the basis of boxing depending on your skill. Are you at the top of you game? Meaning, have you experimented with different tecniques, but now honed down to..might I say, a 2-step train of thought/motion where as your offense and defense can copliment each other? Many things are easier said than done, opposite here. Please bare with me, my english terrible, hehe:\
LongDongSilver78 8 months ago
With humans(when confronted with danger) the spectrum of reactions is very wide!
Imo MA training narrows this down to the more effective reactions.
On a higher level gain complete control over your mind and body.
zingaya 1 year ago
How would Pencak pan out against Muay Thai/Boran, Tae Kwon Do, or Karate? This is a very unique martial art that really interests me. Seems to look good against it's own form, but can someone give me an answer? Other than, "it depends on the fighter." Thanks!
LongDongSilver78 1 year ago
@LongDongSilver78 it does depend on the fighter in the end lol but pentcak silat or other forms of silat if used correctly will dominate over muay thai, tkd or karate. my father does bukti negar pentjak silat n has black belts n many other arts but he believes silat is the best, it has everything in it. n uses science and math 2 form the perfect angles of strikes n takedowns, which is why a 155lb man can drop a 300lb man with ease in silat, trust me, ive seen it done in person
babyface0514 1 year ago 7
@LongDongSilver78 It depends on the fighter -lol! Well, actually it depends on the teacher! I would gladly learn from the gentleman in this video, and I could name one or two others. But there are also many Silat teachers who can't fight. The conditioning is much more important than style specific moves and techniques. Personally I prefer internal power principles (like Taichi/Bagua), which are also found in some Silat styles, but to my knowledge these are rare in Indonesia
piaten 10 months ago
@piaten That's true. The best fighters do learn from the best teachers, but not as dramatically when they are naturally gifted or untap skill, but everyone's different I guess. On the other hand put yourself in the 'teachers' shoes. Not as much to teach when you're coaching/training an 'ace' righ? As I'm certain that a 'world class' instructor would enjoy just as much, to train someone who grasps the art with a passion naturally understanding and able to execute/innovate concepts involved.:)
LongDongSilver78 10 months ago
@piaten the animal(s) mimicking MA between silat and kungfu is clearly displayed here. In kungfu the `snake` is always serpent (poisonous snakes) while in pure indegenous silat we mimicking phyton (constrictors snakes). Cheers ^^
MrSolitude14 8 months ago
If one who had mastered any kind of martial arts but cannot control his ferocity then it makes him a very dangerous cum unpredictable person, he can easily kills anyone if his ferocity appear. That's is why in all great martial arts, the grandmaster will teaches his students to control their 'dormant ferocity', thru self meditating. ( If a grandmaster who taught his students to incorporate the martial arts & ferocity as one, then the grandmaster himself is not true master ).
But2Star 1 year ago
@But2Star
All very interesting points.
Basically "ferocity" is one of many reactions by an animal to the brain flooding with adrenaline.
I think fear and rage are two basic reactions to adrenaline,and martial arts seeks control of this.
One can freeze up totally ,panic and we all have heard stories of people lifting things they normally can't budge,thing like this.
When surprised,a horse runs away, but a tiger might lunges at you.
What does a human do?(cont.)
zingaya 1 year ago
A pet house cat has lost much of its ferocity due to the timid environment but if a house cat is brought up in a jungle/forest then it ferocity is back to its original status. The level of ferocity will depend on the kind of environment that the persons/animals they currently reside.
In hostile & uncivilized world, ferocity could be very useful but in civilized world it is the opposite.. ferocity is a dangerous which sometime resulted in hurting others and at time it kills too.... con't
But2Star 1 year ago
Ferocity, from my hypothesis ' ferocity' is part of our hidden character. Ten of thousands of years ago, we were once animal like creature, each and everyone had the ferocity for defend themselve from danger. And many centuries passed, and we had become more and more civilize and slowly the ferocity has become of less usage and finally our 'ferocity' become dormant but when danger arises many of us will automatically switch to the 'ferocity mode'.... con't
But2Star 1 year ago
indonesia's traditional martial arts.....
originally from west java, west sumatra (silek Minangkabau), and Jakarta(Silat Betawi)
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sibegopenuhaksi 1 year ago
@1NX9
ahahaah useless, you will not believe if you do not see it dude.., you just need to come to west Java, Indonesia to study it. not everyone can, which failed to be a madman. have to be really prepared mentally.
az zimat were usually made of animal skins that read Arabic letters. some are made of bark, cloth, belt, or ring-shaped that has been given a mantra. in Indonesia still familiar, cause Indonesia is a country of ''belive it or not'' hahaah..
sibegopenuhaksi 1 year ago
pencak silat it's cool man..!! this is from indonesia, not from another country. immune to various weapons. such as swords, whips, knives, fire, and hot sand. you may not believe, some fighters are immune to fire, with the help of objects called''az zimat'' or amulet. It's not bullshit. welcome in Indonesia.
sibegopenuhaksi 1 year ago 10
@sibegopenuhaksi
Brother have you actually seen this!
I have never heard of "az zimat"?
1NX9 1 year ago
@sibegopenuhaksi
aw come on please, stop spreading that bs. I'm embarassed as a fellow Silat that you're spreading this bs around the world. If he getts hit with a sharp katana he will gett cut, he will gett his head chopped of. PLEASE. i hate it when people spread this bs.
boeiendnl 11 months ago
@sibegopenuhaksi - I do believe that, but using amulets and other spiritual and/ or magical protection is not exclusive to Indonesia. You can find it from there in the east to Senegal in the west, just speaking of Islamic countries with sufi traditiones and/ or remains of animistic traditions, and in many other countries/ traditions, too.
shatterprone 11 months ago
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@sibegopenuhaksi - I do believe that, but using amulets and other spiritual and/ or magical protection is not exclusive to Indonesia. You can find it from there in the east to Senegal in the west, just speaking of Islamic countries with sufi traditions and/ or remains of animistic traditions, and in many other countries/ traditions, too.
shatterprone 11 months ago
@sibegopenuhaksi stop smoking the green
PastaMilo 10 months ago
@sibegopenuhaksi you forgot to add, "also immune to hot sauce."
silversification 8 months ago
@sibegopenuhaksi I agree to most except the immunity to swords and knives lol. Think about it.
JVThrillz 8 months ago
@sibegopenuhaksi that's is true, i like pencak silat. We must proud because pencak silat is from our cuntry Indonesia.
agus15393 7 months ago
I only came to this video because i though pencak ment pancack in a different language i guess i was wrong
ItsAaron101 1 year ago
This guy will kill you.
ShaolinMonkey007 1 year ago
From his moves, he has strong body & hand movements but not the legs (especially when he stand on one, but look at the guy from Javanese tiger fighting system Mpeg2 and you will know the different). @rujak, @7The7, @bhka111, I have noting personal toward the guy above for i am just sharing my 'experience' with you guys.
YSN524 1 year ago
@YSN524 Look at his feet, even in the horse stances, he is moving them, it is deliberate and there is a reason for this. By chance, even if he was adjusting for the sake of balance, he is not weak, his legs did not shake. Again, it is not even possible to perform this if you have weak legs. Anyone is welcome to try it and see for themselves.
7The7Green7 1 year ago
Look, during the heydays of Tyson & Ali did anyone see their legs wobble ? Look at our currently world champion Manny Pacquiao did anyone see his leg wobble ? When Steve Davis won the 1989 world snooker championship, he commented " this will be my last world champion trophy because my legs are no longer strong, i won't able to have a good stance". Since then he never won any major competitions.
YSN524 1 year ago
Look at Pamacan, the Javanese tiger fighting system Mpeg2, this guy got a pair of well trained strong legs. In many kind of competitions, on many occasions the loser lost because of the weak legs. Look at Mike Tyson, he lost because his legs is no longer strong, look at all those 'aged fighter',(no doubt their punches are still powerful) they lost because their legs gave way .
YSN524 1 year ago
@rujak, @7The7, @bhka111 I think you guys had mistaken my quotes. In my 1st comment i said "The guy above has a bad stance ( his legs wobble too often). He can be easily knock down to the ground and is much to his own advantage. " (Look at 0.7, 0.19, 0.38 'wobble a bit') I never mention that Silat's stance is not good, i never mention that Silat got a bad 'flow'. All i said was, this guy legs is weak, a pair of weak legs will produce weak stand. 'cont'
YSN524 1 year ago
@YSN524 Where I disagree is that I don't see his legs as wobbling, he is positioning and some other unique things to Silat, but you would have to know and understand the older Cimande, trance induced and animalistic Silat, which is demonstrated in this video. If you try to compare to the different exercises in Cimande or other styles, it wont work. BTW I also practice the style demonstrated by Cecep Rahman and the other pesilat mentioned, we use those movements for those particular drills.
7The7Green7 1 year ago
Amazing... how many of these combat styles the time has extinguished? Fortunately we have met disciplines as wonderfull as this one keeping the memory of the ancesters and old masters alive... long life to silat! Silat is the real deal, i can tell!
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Lounio1 1 year ago
porbhinneka.hyves.nl ^__^ West java Pencak Silat school ( In the netherlands)
StevenStoffers 1 year ago
at 3:32...
EMT22637 1 year ago
In good martial arts; the 1st lesson is stance. One who can't produce good and solid stance is always on the disadvantage. The guy above has a bad stance ( his legs wobble too often). He can be easily knock down to the ground and is much to his own advantage.
Stance: every professional snooker players have good/solid stance, without a good/solid stance one will not able to produce perfect shot.
In ancient Chinese martial arts, it took fews years just to learn their 1st lesson "stance".
YSN524 1 year ago
@YSN524 in the original Silat in Indonesia, stance is all about flexibility and how to feel free and comfortable, the offensive and defensive moves are different from the chinese martial arts, there are more ways to defeat even to kill and an opponent in Silat, i suggest you come to Indonesia and learn Silat first before making any comparisons and comments
rujakcingur 1 year ago 3
@rujakcingur ,
Universal rule: Foundation: one need to have a strong foundation before you start to proceed to phase II.
If one have weak legs how can he defend himself or much to kill an opponent. Look at all martial arts and even in boxing, all these contender need to have a good stance only then they have a better chances of defeating others.
In all sports, every sport men need to have strong legs, even in ice skating, ballet dancing & snooker game as well....it's a universal rule.
YSN524 1 year ago
@YSN524 Its because there one of the smartest Asians in the world -.-
dragondude21Rumble 1 year ago
@YSN524 Soory, but to even be able to perform what the pesilat in this clip is doing, you HAVE to have strong legs. Flow, power and intent is there. Bricks crumble, a tree bends and yields. If this pesilat WERE thrown, he would simply keep flowing, roll and rip someones eyes from their head.A flowing fighter is harder to touch as well.
7The7Green7 1 year ago
@7The7Green7 I agree with everything you're saying, just like to add one point: There's NO contradiction between having a really strong stable stance, and flowing! Au contraire, some of the most stable fighters I've seen and met, are also some of the best at flowing movement. But of course they never overextend, and stay within their strong range of motion, while flowing -just like this guy! The best flow comes from a firm, yet adaptable root!
bhka111 1 year ago
@YSN524 Hey, Mrs. "legs wobble too often"! You're right stance/root is most important. But your knowledge on the matter seems mostly theoretical. This guy's stance looks as good as any I've ever seen, and most kung fu ppl I've seen, especially in the west, can learn a thing or two from the way he generates power and structure stability from his legs and gua. So until you actually experience what stance and root is in real life, I suggest you refrain from spreading your misconceptions in public!
bhka111 1 year ago
@YSN524 You should watch how this silat stance is used in Merantau movie. Go and watch.
TheStingray2011 3 months ago
@maddehs no you really could not what he is doing is practicing his drawing stances. They are meant to cause the opponent to think you are off center or unable to defend your self. Then once you attack you are distracted by a punch to the face, taken to the ground and finished by a unarmed strike or one of the many weapons they train with
benji191ful 1 year ago 2
wtf he doing? knock him out in 1 hit
maddehs 1 year ago
Einstein dont need silat to defeat Nazi..so what.?
Mr3pehe1921 1 year ago
great movements!!xx
somnyfera 1 year ago
grabe ang angas! nanay! woo! man, i miss training with my guro in silat
teablack8 1 year ago
Very interesting style.
Akaoushi 1 year ago
This is amazing. The music and the movement as one. And so funny when the kids startle!
landgabriel 1 year ago
wow those stances are low, skiller on the tighs
Hoophy 1 year ago
Pencak Silat is namely kind of martial Art like Karate, Kali, Judo, Aikido,KungFu & etc.. is under 1 roof called self defence… the mother of pencak silat is BELA DIRI & the history of BELA DIRI in Central JAVA (Kejawen) is much more ealier than pencak silat in west Sumatra & West Java….
sacredragon786 1 year ago
The Real History of Pencak Silat (It came from West Sumatera and West Java, Indonesia)
all4one campuraduk at google
chevix430 1 year ago
Very good. Love from india.
tupac175 1 year ago
keren !!!
Dragonathan 1 year ago
Beautiful!
silatmestizo77 1 year ago
its really nice technique i hope i can learn about traditional silat bettr cause in this modern age silat in the city is lost their traditional style and more related to the tenaga dalam it self! alus pisan si akang kudu ngelmu ka pelosok sunda yeuh!
pukulanagacinta 1 year ago
mcm nk berak jah aku tgk
ayamkaper 1 year ago
snake technique?
gekkeie1997 1 year ago
haha i love the kids
CJYungFlow 1 year ago
waw!
farrouest 1 year ago
what is salit related to? what are its roots? indian, chinese, japanese, korean, ect...?
GabrielGroverMan 1 year ago
@GabrielGroverMan
It's Indonesian.
Fookwook 1 year ago
I reaaaaally like silat's ultra low ground stances, its like watching a snake coiling then snaps.
nightblend 1 year ago
lot of ego and flagwaving flying around, can't we just appreciate this performance of silat, wich is a nice blend of practical defense, with artistic elements and a touch of the mystical?
SnuffDizz 1 year ago 12
@SnuffDizz
...and this performance requires superb physical conditioning. That guy is in terrific shape.
NobleJoyous 1 year ago
if he use the "tenaga dalam"...he dont event need to touch the rival to attack..silat more than just this...its deadly when they start using the energy"tenaga dalam"....mental2 dehh lu pade tar heu heu..mantap lah si akang....
arkcyd1 1 year ago
@arkcyd1 wurd
makalati 1 year ago
@arkcyd1
That is cool.
1NX9 1 year ago
they just watch too many kung fu movies.....like me hehe
egrojodnamra 1 year ago
to Brazo4life....thats a pretty balsy comment...i think ur mistaken it doesnt matter where u come from, what back round in america because half the people in america originated from other countries....its diverse in every way so for u to say a dumb comment then thats ur call....but if it just so happens that u get hit or killed for a stupid remark such as that then ur digging ur own grave...
xXxsightsxXx 1 year ago
Yeaah. That`s why many people hate Americans. Always thinking they are the best. When they are really not. They only do, and dont think. That makes them animals.
Brazo4life 1 year ago
@Brazo4life keep telling yourself that from your dirt hut. Maybe they hate us because we are the leaders of the free world, and have the most powerful military in the history of this planet. everyone hates us,but we are the first ones you fun to for help when the shit hits the fan.
man4commonsense 1 year ago
@man4commonsense That`s what i mean. To big ego`s. I am not living in a "dirt hut" I have a house and two cars,like you can see on my channel. So dont act a fool ,yank. And there is no shit hitting the fan. so i don`t worry about shit! And even less about your army ,wich can`t even win from Arabs with really crappy weapons. And America still needs help from other countrys to keep up (their) war. Think about it. Pencak Silat rules!
Brazo4life 1 year ago
@Brazo4life fuck you eurotrash. i'd beat your skull out of your head. i served in the army longer than you have had hair in your ass.
man4commonsense 1 year ago
Umm... American culture undoubtably is one of the youngest in the entire world. And we used to belong to the british rule. If age is a factor here, I hope I dont have to spell out for you guys why its understood globally why armerica happens to have the biggest egos. There is alot more goin on here. just keep that in mind
CYRUSsoreal1987 1 year ago
i dont understant why the sundanese is so arrogant with their culture & kingdom. if sunda is older than java, why the island is called & belong to JAVA .. not sunda? the majority people in West, Central & East java is Javanese.. don't mistaken by the early kingdom.. early kingdom rise in java is becaused of indian (king Dewawarman) settlement meet west java.. But the name Java island has already there & exist before the kingdom.. Means JAVA IS OLDER THAN THE KINGDOM & CULTURE ITSELF
sacredragon786 1 year ago
Sundanese(West-Java/Pajajaran Kingdom) culture is different from Javanese culture(Central&East Java/Majapahit-Mataram Kingdom).Sundanese culture more older than Javanese!
lanangejagad 1 year ago
I love this video! I just wish that dopey guy wasn't standing there filming right in the middle of it.
jekylfoot 1 year ago
3)In this later form, its development of pencak silat spread outside Java, where it developed the teaching and believed, the use of self defense techniques to reach spiritual awareness as well as the use of inner powers to attain supernatural physical and mentally strengths and its believed in the believed of God powers and strength through KAJAWEN. By JAVA KAJAWEN..
sacredragon786 1 year ago
2)It is believed Pencak Silat has already exist by the Javanese people through Kajawen very long time ago in ancient time, long ago before any Empire exist in the island of Java. This could be the fact and reason, the Majapahit Empire from the Javanese people could have conquered South East Asia. The Javanese Pencak Silat had undergone a transformation from pure martial art to be used in combat to an elaborate form of spiritual and humanistic education. Continue..
sacredragon786 1 year ago
In reply to 1 inchkisss & those who not known about the Javanese Pencak Silat Culture & Believed..
1)Differently from West Java, in Central Java, Javanese people have traditionally Pencak Silat used ONLY for self defense and are NOT INCLINED TO SHOW IT IN PUBLIC. This is resolved form and due respect from their ( the Javanese ) culture. Furthermore, the spiritual aspect (KAJAWEN) also means as (Kebatinan) is much more dominant for the Javanese people. Continue..
sacredragon786 1 year ago
What you said about mental health is spot on...
You know?
Some Mantis kung fu masters say mantis-style Tend to make people aggressive if not balanced with some kind of softer training.Like meditation, music or painting.(things of that nature)
I believe this is related to what you where saying.
zingaya 1 year ago
Animals don't give up and say:
They are to many, i have no chance.
I might as well surrender.(they might try to run away)
but, If cornered they go crazy and fight on with all they got.
Tapping into this animal state of mind is a power we humans have.
I think the reason Martial arts all over the world incorporates animal movements.And whole styles based on diff.animals is not just because of the effectiveness of the move.
But mostly to tap into its state of mind.
Thats my take on it:)
zingaya 2 years ago 23
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MasterChince 2 years ago
We are humans, not animals.
There are 3 types of martial arts:
Animal-use instinct, body
Human-use technique, mind
spiritual-use energy, spirit
In a state of animal conciousness the body moves stronger and more efective, true ...but the mind and spirit are not clear and it can be dangerous for mental health.
Also, violence is being promoted to achieve martial goals.
Real martial art is not violent and the mind is clear...that is only my opinion..I still respect yours.
Greetings!
BENJY9090 1 year ago
@BENJY9090
True my man..
It was just my view on animal styles:)..
Martial arts is much more then fighting.
It is about bettering you'r self physically, mentally and spiritually.
You know, In its original meaning, "kung fu" can refer to any skill.
Literally, it can be translated in to "Human achievement".
zingaya 1 year ago
@zingaya Many years ago I asked the question and your answer mirrors what I was told.
pfotojenik 1 year ago
@zingaya I agree completely. Esp. in cultures that have exposure to animals that employ the use of venom, you have characteristics of the snake in movement & application. Some snakes are capable of killing/ disabling bison. They strike at the legs, and evade close to the ground. Control the opponent, disable his ability to strike at you with his most effective weapons.
pranakhan 1 year ago
@zingaya That's because we are animals ourselves, although I believe a lot of us forget that at times.
BobSpotOn 1 year ago
@zingaya Human learning the movement of animals to incorporate into their martial arts is true but to let let the animal instinct to take control of the martial artist when he is being corner ... i don't think it is right. Actually it is the opposite, a well train martial artist will able to control the animal instinct in him, that what make this martial artist a human .. not an animal instinct martial artist.
But2Star 1 year ago
Its not just doing animal movements.
It is feeling like that animal, thinking like that animal, becoming that animal.
It is not just shaping you'r hand like a tiger claw and scratching someone in the face:)
Q:How many unarmed humans is needed to overpower a tiger?
A: Rough guess: about 25-30, and its 50/50 chance the tiger would kill them all.
Why?: not just because its strength or its sharp claws/teeth.
Mostly because of its "Ferocity"
zingaya 2 years ago 18
@zingaya How many? One with a rife! They also used to hunt Tigers in India on horseback.
pugilistica 1 year ago
@zingaya Every 'normal' human being when being corner will process the animal instinct (the ferocity) in them, that's is the nature part of human (because we human was also once an animal like creature ), so as a martial artist he/she must able control the animal instinct in them so that it can differentiate between a 'normal human being' to a ' well train martial artist'.
But2Star 1 year ago
@zingaya Another point, if by learning the behavior of an animal (mental & movement) and becoming like that animal and with the 'ferocity' of that animal will somehow transform a human to become a martial experts .... then all the animal trainers ( of zoos, circus), animal psychologist will automatically become a martial experts.
But2Star 1 year ago
@But2Star I agree with almost everything of what you are saying.
I belive this was me rambling down my thoughts ,though interesting enough, they are just thought's:)..
But to defend my statements a little just for fun:
There is a big difference between a wild animal and a human..example.. a Wild wolf vs a cocker spaniel, you know?.
Like some comedian once said: "The kind of dog that just shakes and pisses all the time"
Humans are kind of like that dog:)...
zingaya 1 year ago
@But2Star cont.
All though martial arts is about control (mental and physical),it's first of all about combat.(all very debatable)
Control is of course important, but some humans (most females) need to develop aggression and the very important
-never-surrender-ness-:).And you'r other point is basically meaningless since non of these examples actually practice any movements..
BUT if they did, my hypothesis would predict that they indeed would at least learn the animal style more quickly.
zingaya 1 year ago
@zingaya ... con't .... if the street medicine man/martial artist display a ' tiger form of martial arts' and much later he will promote and sell his product ( ' Tiger ointment' ) and if another one display a 'monkey form of martial arts' and then he will promote and sell his product ( 'Monkey ointment') and so forth.
Now the question is, did these martial artists benefited from learning/ indoctrine the movement of animals, the answer is yes but to a ' limited level only ' ... con't
But2Star 1 year ago
@But2Star But don't take this shit too serious...i really have no strong opinion one way or the other.
One thing i just thought of.: Wen all know what tiger-style looks like and Eagle,Mantis and so on...They are all different based on how the animal behaves.
So (and this is my thought) what would human style gungfu look like?
Probably advanced weaponry right?. Ultimately the military and war-strategy...
zingaya 1 year ago
@zingaya Many martial arts does have animal style movements, but these movements are merely for 'demonstration' and not for combating. In olden days, martial artists used such 'animal style' movements were used to distract his opponent. Some street medicine man/martial artists used such 'animal style' to impress the crowd and much later they will sell/promote their products.... .... con't
But2Star 1 year ago
@zingaya Human can only learn or intimate a FEW movements from a single animals because our body physical is not design to jump like an monkey or our hands are not design to claw like an tiger's claws or our legs are not design to kick like a horse ...etc. So the genuine grandmaster will only incorporate a few animal movements into their martial arts which they feel that our body physical can manage to do so intimate. So there is the Pros & Cons of animal style martial arts.
But2Star 1 year ago
@zingaya No, it's definitely because of it's strength and speed.
Gleebo 1 year ago
Now, this is good Gongfo!!..
(iknow, its silat)
zingaya 2 years ago