WE run this in a UK youth league, 16-19. We scored 14points with an hours choaching pre game, that was it. WE lost that game on a late feild goal. We play our next oppents in 2 weeks, and we've rep this stuff for 3 and a half hrs solid for the last month, something tells me it'll kill. That is the beauty of this system, easy to learn, more effective than any other once mastered
The Spread is big in Texas. This O looks interesting, but I don't know how well it would fly here. A lot of the good spread teams can put up 50+ in games here, too.
@mrich1976 My HS ran this while I was there, and still runs it. It can score quick as well bc most teams will stack the box, when they miss one tackle there's noone left to make a play. My HS put up 63 in the state finals this year to win. We won when I was there with twenty one. THis last year they played a spread style team that put up 49. It was a track meet!
That is funny! If you have any de line that can stand up to double teams everyplay then great! But till now I have not seen it! I can see that you really do not know the Double wing!
You follow the guards, and the DLine gets a superior push...you stop this offense. And I don't see how this is any different than any double wing video I've seen.
The double wing is suprisingly easy to stop if you have a good enough dline, get off the ball quicker and blow the offensive line back and it will cause chaos.
@mcoltrane5 its even worse cause of the foot to foot splits the line takes in the double wing. because theyre so close together it makes it even worse if you blow it all up.
@misterdirtyharry the only way to blow it all up is to have better athletes across the board than the doublewing team has, and I disagree that "it's even worse if you blow it all up." Getting taken down in the backfield is getting taken down in the backfield, no matter what offense you run.
@misterdirtyharry oh I agree. That's why the doublewing uses double teams and more man power at the point of attack to take on teams that have bigger, stronger athletes. Of course, sometimes you're going to face that one guy who is a legit future Division 1 or NFL player, and he's going to blow up your play no matter what happens. The reason I love the doublewing is because I'm an offensive line coach and the doublewing is more line-intensive than other offenses, so my boys get a chance to shine
@mcoltrane5 more line intensive than any other offense? i honestly dont think so. you cant have an offense at all if the foundation is a strong, well coached offensive line. my coach preached that the o-line is the most important part of the offense and we ran a spread option.
@misterdirtyharry "you can't have an offense at all if the foundation is a strong, well-coached offensive line." Tell that to Vince Lombardi, who drove his offensive line harder than any other part of his team and won 5 NFL titles because of it. What championship team do you know of that didn't have a strong offensive line, plus a strong defense, which is the other requirement?
He's still in the game. He was brought on as co-offensive coordinator at Tustin high this season. Went 9-1 in the regular season and got the #1 seed for the division playoffs. The one loss was due to 4-5 lost fumbles. We still put up over 400 yards of offense in that game. We're averaging 350+ yards on the ground a game. Glad he joined the staff. The double wing as been at Tustin since 94. I played from 96 to 99. This year, a few new plays were added and the play calling isn't as predictable.
@fingerz42 youre right, the scheme is alot in highschool because high school defenses are never very complexed. we had a double wing team in our league, they killed everyone but us and one other team because we had the right defensive schemes to counter it.
Don Markham is the type of coach that's gone to diffrent schools and won everywhere because of this offense...now check this out. He's the rerason that Oregon HS football has a mercy rule. Not from passing or the a-11, but from this hardnose physical style. If he can win at California's highest level of play with this then anyone can. Also the reason why Markham had gone to other schools is that folks complained that he ran too hard of a camp that left him with 20-25 man rosters. Only the Strong
I played for Bandon High School in Bandon Oregon, In 1998 when he came back to Bandon for one year.They started the 45 point mercy rule because of Coach Markham and this offense in like 1992, I'm not sure on the date. Also when he came back in 1998 they got rid of the mercy rule,because they wanted a reason to get rid of him and they knew he'd score lots of points, and he did. That year, we beat Douglas High School 90-6You may not know this but Troy Polomalu from the steelers played for Douglas!
And a double wing team will decimate a team that gears their defense to stopping the spread. Thats the natural flow of football. Expect to see the pendulum start to shift back to power running games to be different and take advantage of all those defenses built around stopping the spread. Just as the spread, which is an ancient offense by the way, gained popularity in when in the 90s every defense started stacking the box with 8. There really are no new offenses or defenses just countermeasures.
sorry about that but ive seen coaches call it flexbone tight as it is a different form of the normal "flexbone"... also the second formation in the video is definitely doublewing/singlewing but the first one is a variation of flexbone
Its not the flexbone. The flexbone uses split ends. And the offense is an entirely different philosophy. Double tight, foot to foot splits, pulling and wedge blocking, misdirection and power running = Double wing. Double split, wide splits, downfield blocking, option running game = flexbone.
we run the double wing and man is it the greatest...because we pass out of it also...all we do is blast the defense with powers,counters and wedge suck them in then boom hitum wit a pas all in the dw formation we havent lost in 2 yrs wit the dw...
This offense is the nuclear power of football. So effective and efficient, and yet everyone hates it. I obviously drank the Double Wing Koolaid a long time ago.
Millions of coaches can only dream about having a video, or offense for that matter, devoted to them. Don Markham is one of the few and the proud that can say this dream is a reality. People may try to put their own spin on it, but he was the trailblazer of the actual offense, with only Pop Warner using a direct snap version of the formation previously (Warner still used his Single Wing schemes). Great video.
Cool video. Stupid intro and entirely too long. I mean seriously, 1:20 long? Shouldn't have been more than 10 seconds. But the DW was well portrayed here in IMO
WE run this in a UK youth league, 16-19. We scored 14points with an hours choaching pre game, that was it. WE lost that game on a late feild goal. We play our next oppents in 2 weeks, and we've rep this stuff for 3 and a half hrs solid for the last month, something tells me it'll kill. That is the beauty of this system, easy to learn, more effective than any other once mastered
tzeentch14 7 months ago
coach markham is coaching my old high school compton high school
datni99amr 9 months ago
The Spread is big in Texas. This O looks interesting, but I don't know how well it would fly here. A lot of the good spread teams can put up 50+ in games here, too.
mrich1976 1 year ago
@mrich1976 My HS ran this while I was there, and still runs it. It can score quick as well bc most teams will stack the box, when they miss one tackle there's noone left to make a play. My HS put up 63 in the state finals this year to win. We won when I was there with twenty one. THis last year they played a spread style team that put up 49. It was a track meet!
vachamps 10 months ago
That is funny! If you have any de line that can stand up to double teams everyplay then great! But till now I have not seen it! I can see that you really do not know the Double wing!
PJNPSWISS 1 year ago
You follow the guards, and the DLine gets a superior push...you stop this offense. And I don't see how this is any different than any double wing video I've seen.
swibmasta890 1 year ago
The double wing is suprisingly easy to stop if you have a good enough dline, get off the ball quicker and blow the offensive line back and it will cause chaos.
misterdirtyharry 1 year ago
@misterdirtyharry no way, are you serious? That sounds just like the way you stop any offense known to man! HOLY CRAP!!! O_______O
mcoltrane5 1 year ago
@mcoltrane5 its even worse cause of the foot to foot splits the line takes in the double wing. because theyre so close together it makes it even worse if you blow it all up.
misterdirtyharry 1 year ago
@misterdirtyharry the only way to blow it all up is to have better athletes across the board than the doublewing team has, and I disagree that "it's even worse if you blow it all up." Getting taken down in the backfield is getting taken down in the backfield, no matter what offense you run.
mcoltrane5 1 year ago
@mcoltrane5 what i meant was if you push one lineman out of his path, it will cause more chaos in the double wing because of the tight splits.
misterdirtyharry 1 year ago
@misterdirtyharry oh I agree. That's why the doublewing uses double teams and more man power at the point of attack to take on teams that have bigger, stronger athletes. Of course, sometimes you're going to face that one guy who is a legit future Division 1 or NFL player, and he's going to blow up your play no matter what happens. The reason I love the doublewing is because I'm an offensive line coach and the doublewing is more line-intensive than other offenses, so my boys get a chance to shine
mcoltrane5 1 year ago
@mcoltrane5 more line intensive than any other offense? i honestly dont think so. you cant have an offense at all if the foundation is a strong, well coached offensive line. my coach preached that the o-line is the most important part of the offense and we ran a spread option.
misterdirtyharry 1 year ago
@misterdirtyharry "you can't have an offense at all if the foundation is a strong, well-coached offensive line." Tell that to Vince Lombardi, who drove his offensive line harder than any other part of his team and won 5 NFL titles because of it. What championship team do you know of that didn't have a strong offensive line, plus a strong defense, which is the other requirement?
mcoltrane5 1 year ago
@mcoltrane5 lol that was a typo on my part, meant to type "isnt". i was agreeing with you.
misterdirtyharry 1 year ago
@misterdirtyharry lol, gotcha. my bad
mcoltrane5 1 year ago
He's still in the game. He was brought on as co-offensive coordinator at Tustin high this season. Went 9-1 in the regular season and got the #1 seed for the division playoffs. The one loss was due to 4-5 lost fumbles. We still put up over 400 yards of offense in that game. We're averaging 350+ yards on the ground a game. Glad he joined the staff. The double wing as been at Tustin since 94. I played from 96 to 99. This year, a few new plays were added and the play calling isn't as predictable.
BearWalken 1 year ago
i dont see how this is different than any flex bunch formation
ununderstood69 1 year ago
@ununderstood69 the line splits. option teams that run the flexbone have 2-3 foot splits. this offense uses 0-1 foot splits
mcoltrane5 1 year ago
great offensive line
MichaelHunt1994 1 year ago
Looks to me like superior players, rather than a superior scheme.
fingerz42 1 year ago
@fingerz42 youre right, the scheme is alot in highschool because high school defenses are never very complexed. we had a double wing team in our league, they killed everyone but us and one other team because we had the right defensive schemes to counter it.
misterdirtyharry 1 year ago
this works i play at Leuzinger when Don markham was there
ltz2005 2 years ago
i played against his bloomington team it sucked they scored like 64
calexrose 2 years ago
Great highlight video
coachorr 2 years ago
Don Markham is the type of coach that's gone to diffrent schools and won everywhere because of this offense...now check this out. He's the rerason that Oregon HS football has a mercy rule. Not from passing or the a-11, but from this hardnose physical style. If he can win at California's highest level of play with this then anyone can. Also the reason why Markham had gone to other schools is that folks complained that he ran too hard of a camp that left him with 20-25 man rosters. Only the Strong
NebHusk90 3 years ago 2
I played for Bandon High School in Bandon Oregon, In 1998 when he came back to Bandon for one year.They started the 45 point mercy rule because of Coach Markham and this offense in like 1992, I'm not sure on the date. Also when he came back in 1998 they got rid of the mercy rule,because they wanted a reason to get rid of him and they knew he'd score lots of points, and he did. That year, we beat Douglas High School 90-6You may not know this but Troy Polomalu from the steelers played for Douglas!
kairasdad1 2 years ago
Don't know where this is, but the Spread is big in Texas. And teams can score quickly from it.
It's probably the antithesis of the D-Wing.
mrich1976 3 years ago
And a double wing team will decimate a team that gears their defense to stopping the spread. Thats the natural flow of football. Expect to see the pendulum start to shift back to power running games to be different and take advantage of all those defenses built around stopping the spread. Just as the spread, which is an ancient offense by the way, gained popularity in when in the 90s every defense started stacking the box with 8. There really are no new offenses or defenses just countermeasures.
GTTofAK 3 years ago 2
sorry about that but ive seen coaches call it flexbone tight as it is a different form of the normal "flexbone"... also the second formation in the video is definitely doublewing/singlewing but the first one is a variation of flexbone
PhxSunzPwnage 3 years ago
thats very true
stillfree101 2 years ago
this formation is called flexbone, navy, georgia tech use it
PhxSunzPwnage 3 years ago
Its not the flexbone. The flexbone uses split ends. And the offense is an entirely different philosophy. Double tight, foot to foot splits, pulling and wedge blocking, misdirection and power running = Double wing. Double split, wide splits, downfield blocking, option running game = flexbone.
GTTofAK 3 years ago 2
I agree...the intro was moronic, but the footage was great.
fiamike 3 years ago
we run the double wing and man is it the greatest...because we pass out of it also...all we do is blast the defense with powers,counters and wedge suck them in then boom hitum wit a pas all in the dw formation we havent lost in 2 yrs wit the dw...
juniorodp 3 years ago
ahahahah we run double wing its freackin awsome
paulino117 3 years ago
Good Vid, I owe alot to Don Markham for my successes over the years!
tecumseh22 3 years ago
This offense is the nuclear power of football. So effective and efficient, and yet everyone hates it. I obviously drank the Double Wing Koolaid a long time ago.
rushingfn 3 years ago
Millions of coaches can only dream about having a video, or offense for that matter, devoted to them. Don Markham is one of the few and the proud that can say this dream is a reality. People may try to put their own spin on it, but he was the trailblazer of the actual offense, with only Pop Warner using a direct snap version of the formation previously (Warner still used his Single Wing schemes). Great video.
jdoeson 3 years ago
Cool video. Stupid intro and entirely too long. I mean seriously, 1:20 long? Shouldn't have been more than 10 seconds. But the DW was well portrayed here in IMO
coachtabales 3 years ago