THEIR FULL ON PROFF!!! anits are the crule people and this is what happens when their are to many deer!! and when it comes to them killing a ill deer they do it in the wosr most inhumane way possible! we contry people are right we know wat we are on about!
@DocStrange0123 Bottom line, son. You pay for animals to be killed for you at farms, on roads, to have your home. You probably kill many personally and are just lying about it (rats, cockroaches, other pests).
You kill animals to feed yourself, and for your convenience. And you cannot face that FACT because it contradicts your agenda.
Your position, and failure to acknowledge those facts just demonstrates your immaturity and delusion. And you wonder why you are treated with contempt...
@DocStrange0123 "don't drive" And you never ride in a car, train, bus or car, or ride a bicycle... right?
"unbacked" Uh... Ever been to a farm? Do you think they just let animals come eat their crops? You do realize roads are built, don't you? They don't appear by magic in "animal free zones."
"intelligent discussion" I gave you a fair chance. You are living in a world of delusion and lies. Your moral superiority stance is built on denial.
@DocStrange0123 "I don't have to justify something I don't do" Now it is an IQ test: You buy food from farms. Even if you are a vegetarian, animals were killed by the thousands per acre to feed you. Those that come to eat the crops are killed, more are killed in planting & harvest. Farms are destroyed habitat, representing thousands more dead animals per acre. Your home represents destroyed habitat, and you kill the pests that come there. Roads for your convenience = more dead animals.
I love shooting I love eating something that I've hunted and I know has had a good life which should never be compared to pricks who trophy hunt what's the point in shooting a rhino or zebra other than that LACS stay out of the countryside and leave it to people who know how to manage it
@nebcop It doesn't require a superior knowledge to figure out something that obvious, just a bit of empathy, common sense and a minimum respect for other living beings; hunting for fun etcetera is primitive and pointless, is not required for survival in the cases of sport hunting, killing for sport is not ok. what proves to have the head of animal you killed on your wall for example, that you are brave or something? (very brave indeed, to shoot an animal from a safe distance) It's unethical.
@USSBN734 I don't have to justify the animals I kill for fun or convenience due to a very simple reason: I don't do anything of that...
I don't kill or eat animals or wear anithing made from animals nor use anything tested on animals if I'm aware it was, I check it first, obviously some things are not fully known and probably some companies cheat etcetera so I might ending using a product tested on animalst without knowing it but I try to avoid it as much as possible... questions?
@DocStrange0123 "I don't kill or eat animals" I am going to be kind because I honestly believe you don't know.
You may not EAT animals, but you sure do kill them. What do farms do with animals that eat their crops? What were the farms before? How many animals are killed every season in plowing and planting? Do you use roads? Live in an house or apartment?
Fact is that you pay for animals to be killed every day, and kill some personally for your own convenience, and fun.
@DocStrange0123 "I don't have to justify" And neither do I. And I do kill them, eat their flesh, wear products made from them.
First face the stone cold FACT that your life depends on animals being killed (to protect crops, provide you shelter), and that you kill them for convenience (roads, housing, food again). And THEN we can have an intelligent discussion.
Until then you are simply denying a fact. That is known as "delusion" and there is no point talking to a delusional person.
@USSBN734 Wrong, I don't have to justify something I don't do that has no effect or no impact whatsoever on anything and on nobody (diferent if my unaction do have consecuences). Some of that depends on animal killing, yes, but I try to avoid it as much as possible. I don't kill them for convenience, I don't drive. The rest of your comments can be sumed up in: unbacked up claims, claims about me like if you knew me and "'cause I say so"... intelligent discussion? tell me when you're gonna start
These fuckers dont understand. without natural predators humans need to fill the gap and control them. no matter how unpleasant some carebears might find it.
hahahahahahaha what a group of tossers you lot are. you won t stop hunting. may I take this opportunity to offer you all a little advice??? don t waste your Saturday following us…….go hug a tree or smoke a joint……..hippies
LACS animal lovers? cruelty? the deer herd here are a discrace, even the germans treated the jews with more repect than LACS have for these iconic animals. LACS are nothing more than a club for evil, twisted animal abusers who enjoy causing trouble in a group, much like football hooligans, no balls to stand up for anything on thier own, so they climb behind the LACS label and hoodies and abuse animals in the comfort of thier own like minded peers.
you dont know anything about snaring or cruelty or why people catch these things , they all have a reason and you arsewholes who think its alright to tamper ith our traps have no fucking right and think you are the best and are doing wqhat you should be but you have no clue it =s great doing this to annimals you cunts
Well, in a response to the Pro lot, obviously having a short, (and a very short, I may add) masterbation session at what they feel is 'One over on us Antis', then let me tell you this. These people are probably doing the best they can with the limited finances they have. All you lot can do is call people 'twats' and 'idiots; when the majority of you lot are blatant sadists. Now, having seen Otis Ferry in action, tell me he's a nice guy and make me laugh.
@IntellectualAmy A gun shouldn't be too dear and I seem to recall the head had a large pay packet. As that may be incorrect (probably is, I've heard 6 different figures for the pay) it still shouldn't be too expensive to have a gamekeeper of some sort who's a volunteer, they are a charity afterall and may be eligible for various benefits.
Just shows you what LACS are like,bunch of do gooders doing more harm.Hunting is a natural selection,the weak and infirm are taken leaving the fit and the healthy to live a quality life.
This shows that this bunch of idiots have absouloutly no idea about healthy wildlife management they are so concerned with attacking shoots and 'monitoring' hunts they are making wild animals suffer along with threatning the livelihood of the local farmers. There is no way a healthy group of deer would let you drive up to them in a landrover and shoot them out the window! Thats far better than traditional deer managemnt! mmmm i think not!
state of that place, this shows the need for conservation & population control. lacs should hang there head in shame, and support should be with drawn.
@phoenix1916 - Well, always remember this, The Countryside Alliance have more to hide and always have. Like I said, tell me the likes of Otis Ferry are nice people and make me howl.
@IntellectualAmy howl u may well do??"" Did u watch the special documentary tonight on BBC1 about the mauling those 2 toddlers ga=ot from ur beloved vermin???? And u say it was a dog, how pathetic u are!!
@phoenix1916 Thought you were supposed to be on holiday LOL you never left Clogher you fucking lying blocking faggot, just because you shut down the channel doesnt mean I cant get to you fella.
@IntellectualAmy Tell ME the likes of people who trespass on private land, wearing balaclava's and intimidating and assaulting pensioners on perfectly legal hound exercise are nice people. Otis Ferry any day.
@dturk5490 - Do you know? You've just described the exact actions of Otis Ferry to a tee. He also does that; and has the added bonus value of getting his Land Rover-loving flunkies to bully villagers and WOMEN and also assault them with the extreme arrogance that by some odd twist of fate (being Bryan's son) he shouldn't be brought to trial for assault.Well I do NOT condone assault and harmful threats on any side of the fence.And that's from the pros lot or Antis. I don't hold with that at all.
@belwadebasset Deleted your account again huh? Is that because someone found you out, and let us all know this was your number 6 YT account huh? And also that you're on ebay known as "eileenrangeroverv8" but that is your 3rd name change on there also - because you're such a vile excuse for a human being!
This person goes around YT under different names, telling people to "wipe their fathers cum from their face" and accuses them of disgusting sexual things, they also visit fetish sites...con
@belwadebasset If anyone wants the link to the fetish sites they visit and comment on under their other YT name of "TheShamtube" please let me know and I will message it to you.
This person is a very unhinged sick individual, and now I know their real details they'd better be pleading insanity.
The league want to stop game sports and when they do they cant care for the animals surley this is a sign that they arnt doing a good job. But the only thing i believe in in hunting is a quick clean kill. Not like hound hunting where a stag i bundled on while dogs are biting it and hunter stabbing it 1 shot 1 kill.
Well what a surprise, people who have no clue about wildlife welfare or management. Don't think they will be shouting about this will they ! TB is the scourge of farmers and wildlife, allow the hunts, terrier men and stalkers to carry on with there job as they have been for hundreds of years, controlling the countryside to maintain healthy animals and dispatching those diseased, ill or injured in a far more humane way than letting them die in prolonged pain and suffering.
Any needless suffering of animals should be highlighted and stopped. I'm sure the League do not wish for any of this suffering though and trust they will act appropriately. Unlike people who hunt.
Yes, compared to humans animals are innocent. And sentient, and helpless against the ways in which we exploit and abuse them.
@missfurtles They are not helpless. Wild animals can run. I agree things like bearbaiting, where the animal cannot escape or fight is cruel, but when the fox can run and hide it is neither abuse not exploitation. If there were larger predators, they'd sort out the numbers. Bear in mind that while humans live in a civilised way, and domestic animals aren't used to how nature works, wild animals do not and are not affected by hunting the same as a human would be.
@claoufaeng - And that justifies it??! Not to mention your last sentence which makes no sense whatsoever. Justification for mindless tossers to get their sick 'traditional' jollies. Keeping numbers in check my arse. The mind boggles.
@missfurtles It doesn't make sense? I'll try again. Humans fear death because of the unknown, an animal fears death for instinct. They recover from it much faster and it doesn't cause them the same trauma as it would an animal unused to living in uncertain conditions eg a pet cat would be traumatised from being chased by a pack of dogs because it's not used to the fear, whilst a fox has spent it's life having squabbles and fights with each other where one might kill the other. Any sense now?
@claoufaeng No sorry, you are talking utter shite! They recover from death much faster? You need to brush up on your written communication skills or get a brain.
You are not a wild animal so how the hell can you sermonise about how they feel?
@missfurtles Recover from the chase, the near death experience. And nor are you a wild animal, but I can tell you how their hormones and endocrinal systems react and that their body recovers from stress much faster than a human in the same situation because when we're chased by something about to kill us, our body goes into shock, whilst theirs cleans up the adrenaline rush and goes on as normal. Third time is the charm they say. Also, no, it doesn't justify it, but I wasn't trying to.
7:28 Sophistic poiny : if the only reason to kill is to end the suffering of a deer and NO OTHER REASON, they should not kill an infected one if he is not suffering. And by the way how can they measure suffering ? According to their logic, they should not kill an infected deer threatenning the herd... absurd.
Anti-hunt profile : urban retarded young adult, uncertain about is gender, onanist, in conflict with his parents, having failed in studies, working as a clerck in some computer store if not unemployed, full of hatred and resentment. The main point being that he is absolutely unable to give any help to the society, to anybody who really need help. So he pretends to help animals who never asked for any and don't need any.
Unfortunately the ecosystem is that messed up in England that we can no longer live in harmony with nature. Its been so for a long time now. There are simply to many people who all wish to live the modern opulent life style. The only way we can have these small nature reserves these days is to actively manage them. Groups such as the LACS though started with good intentions have just been taken over with radicals who have little or no understanding and so as a group have totally lost there way.
people from one of these bloody groups who let all the deer loose in my friends parkland by cutting all the fences loose, apparently to 'liberate them' they got onto the main road and three had to be put down. so called animal lovers
I once had a friend who had a sick cat and 'debated' what possible solutions there may be to solve the 'malady'. ( Option 1 ), call in 'Vetinary specialist', (Option 2 )get a 'group of drunk people on horses' and a 'pack of dogs' and chase the little fellow untill he collapses from exhaustion, and have dogs rip him limb from limb and then have participants bathe in the blood...... I think he chose the medical argument in the end!
Its true that I believe these deers are sick....Hurry, lets bring back getting drunk and riding those fucking foxes down again!! WE need to kill these little fuckers with rabid dogs immediately before a vet arrives!
the red deer is the largest british mammal and they need to eat alot of grass to be able to survive and they also carry ticks etc.. these are a few reasons why they should be managed also when they are killed they are not dicarded they are sold as meat and eaten by local people! so what is the problem?
nature takes care of animal population and wellbeing without human intervention. anyone who things they're helping animals by shooting them to death is in a denial. we dont kill sick humans to help the human kind either. it's illogical and arrogant to assume that we humans know better than nature itself. it's natural for animals to get sick sometimes, get old and die. just like humans. shooting them with a gun is unnatural, cruel and plain stupid.
What makes it unnatural? Humans evolved intelligence to make tools which have developed over generations. This is entirely natural.
Without predators like Lynx and Wolves to control their population the deer become overpopulated and many die from disease and starvation. This is cruel.
Culling a small precentage of the population humanely, will prevent over population and maintain a healthy population.
You're in denial, humans are a natural predator of deers.
please get over your human/god complex. what about all those species humans *dont* hunt? How come their population is mostly in balance without our intervention? nature takes care of its own & did so long before we ever existed. Humans do more damage than good with their "intelligence". You're not a natural predator if your lifestyle is destroying this planet & your health. Lions would starve w/o flesh, but you won't-
Because most of their populations are not in balance. I don't deisagree that humans have caused a great deal of damage. We've destroyed habitats and removed species which play an important role in the ecosystem. As a result our wildlife and habitats require management to maintain our biodiversity.
Your views are very naive and idealistic. Humans are omnivores and the top predator on the planet so we should eat meat.
Also I get the feeling you would rather large numbers of these deer suffered horrible deaths from disease, rather than have a healthy population maintained through management.
We have too many deer in this country as it is, you probably don't realise the damage to woodland habitats that too many deer can cause.
As for my lifestyle destroying the planet, thats bull, i'm studying for a career in conservation and my previous job was all about increasing recycling rates etc. in the area where I live.
because all the others we don't hunt have PREDATORS- red deer are too big to be taken down bu foxes, now. if we had bear and wolves, then that might be different.
i cant stand do gooders like you saying that it is unnatural for humans to kill deer! man has killed deer since the start of evolution but over the thousands of years we have developed new methods such as shooting since the invention of the gun! it is humane and the meat is organic and you know where it has come from instead of this supermarket quorn shit that all you fuckin vegan cunts buy!! heres a suggestion why dont you all just fuck off and mind your own buisness!!!!!!!
Take note everyone fuck brain twat above grousekeeper223.DRRRRRR His words come from the illness inbreeding ,your mum fucked her brother and you are the son.
you have had to resort to insults because you do not have a reasonable comeback to my explanation on the management of british deer species. i have a masters degree in countryside management and conservation so you cannot just send me abuse bout me been inbred which i am certainly not!! go and find something else to do in your spare time other than talk shite.
There was a mix up in youtube acounts again, but i also have a degree and no it doesnt neccesarily make me inteligent but i have been trained in the areas relevent to this debate and have also got industry experience in this area, so i know what i am talking about!
well, if you mean all hunters....i live in indiana, and here there is a massive overpopulation and they cause hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage to crops alone. Nevermind the insurance costs and repair for damaged vehicles. yeah, there just perfect little innocent critters.
They are a terrible group of individuals, with very few members all they are is a group of thugs which do not understand the basics of animal management. They dont understand that to have a healthy herd of deer, culling is essential, it eliminates unhealthy and old deer which otherwise will die a painful death, in the case of old deer-starving to death due to worn teeth. TB is a notifiyable disease, they should be sued under animal cruelty laws in my opinion
You bunch of hypocritical ass holes are a total disgrace, you edit your footage and your website to make us pro hunters look like utter thugs when actually you are the ones who start what has now become a rural countryside war... why don't you piss off and go and make a song and dance about something you have an impact on, you are all a disgrace.
LACS and the rest of the bleeding heart brigade are social failures who need animals as their own species can't stand them. Now they can't relate to those they claim to protect. The sneering smartarse confronted about the sick stag is typical of the moron which infests this bit of society. No doubt a dole scrounger, doesn't stop him doing work and causing trouble, does it? Animal rights activists are parasites, it's them who need to be culled not the deer.
The LACS are nothing more than animal abusers and the RSPCA must take action before TB sweeps the country and bring these so called animal lovers to justice
It says it all when the LACS spokesman won't even look at the camera when he's spouting his bullshit. Scared we'll all see the lies in his eyes. LACS are proving themselves further to being the uneducated, unrealistic scum that they really are.
members of LACS recently threw a 82 year old man into the canal near me... his crime?? he was fishing. thats what these guys stand for. throwing old aged pensioners into freezing canals because 'they love animals'
This is bloody disgraceful. All this is probably the result of a bunch of people who take it on themselves to form an organisation to protect fury creatures. They know nothing about wildlife, they just see hunters working in the field, looking after the countryside and do not like it. They probably buy meat from a butcher so indirectly are party to animals being killed in slaughterhouses under stressful conditions. Hypocrites!
Sadly the rose-tinted do-gooding approach of the LACS bears no relation to nature. It leaves weak and diseased animals to die a lingering and painful death.
Since the removal of predators, which took out the unhealthy animals, it has been essential to "manage" all such herds.
The best way to do this is hunting with hounds (because the healthy animals easily outrun them and only the weak are killed). Alternatively, stalking and shooting can play a part (though this is rarely so selective).
The natural scheme of things in this country has been irrevocably changed by our ancestors so if we are to be humane then we must ensure that the sick, old and infirm, that predators would have taken, are culled as cleanly as possible. This means a safe accurate rifle shot from a competent person.
By the way the guy shooting from the land rover was in clear violation of the deer act and commiting a criminal offence by shooting from a vehicle.
defenceless animals what the fuck u on mate fucking hell haha ha lol oh god how can u even think of that of course they fucking are u fruit cake what u expecting to see deers with a fucking magnum fuck off and dye!!!!!!!
It would seem to me that using the cuntryside alliance as a truth-o-meter is a bit of a problem? They are just trying to repeal the hunting act... That guy "If I allowed my sheep to get in that state I would be in prison" - BOLLOCKS the animal welfare act does NOTHING real to protect animals.
Well LACS,its only cruel when it suits,how come that man isnt behind bars? well is he?i am sure i would be for doing that?these words come to mind, DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO.enough said.
And these people say they care for animals! Thank God there is someone there to expose them as the cruel idiots they are, who know nothing about animal care and the countryside in general.
This is disgusting. Further evidence LACS have no clue about animal welfare let alone the well being of deer on Exmoor. As was made clear in the video, if this was on a farm, the owner would be in prison and so should they.
2 Choices. Re-introduce wolves, or simulate wolves by shooting.
We have removed the natural predators from the system who (by literally taking the weakest/oldest), ensure the survival of the fittest, and maintain a fit breeding population.
LACS man says people can't act god. No, but we can act wolf...
LACS are hypocrites, always have been always will be. They are nothing other than a political party keen only to do well by themselves at the expense of everybody else, human or animal. What we need is another freepost campaign from them! And the RSPCA=LACS just spelt differently.
Abdication of reponsibility is a disease that seems to be endemic in 21st century society, but the mantra of 'we cannot play God and decide WHO (note the usual anthropomorphic language) lives or dies' as expounded by Douglas Batchelor and his friends in this film is simply breathtaking in its arrogance and hypocrisy.
WHAT?? The impartial organisation that is the RSPCA found no connection between the stabbing and their good mates the LACS? Well who'd have thought...
What a disgraceful bunch of idiots. They clearly know nothing about animal husbandry and welfare. Leave the countryside to those people who have learned through generations how to care for the countryside and create healthy habitats for animal welfare and sustainability. It makes me feel sick that these people get the coverage they do for their wholly innacurate arguaments.
If this is correct, DEFRA should immediately investigate to protect the farming community. I also find the naivety of the LACS representative depressing.
If the LACS are as incompetant as this video shows DEFRA should bring charges against them. They won't of course as DEFRA are also mind bogglingly incompetant themselves.
LACS are so dumb if they control the amount of deer before disease sets in they will probably have to shoot less of them. But being LACS they think they know everything.
They won't though, when you're as convinced by your own self-righteousness as LACS are, inconvenient truths such as "even sanctuary-deer get sick & die, especially if not managed properly" simply don't feature.
The field-sports community have been warning of this for decades.
THEIR FULL ON PROFF!!! anits are the crule people and this is what happens when their are to many deer!! and when it comes to them killing a ill deer they do it in the wosr most inhumane way possible! we contry people are right we know wat we are on about!
HarveyTheHunter 3 months ago
@DocStrange0123 Bottom line, son. You pay for animals to be killed for you at farms, on roads, to have your home. You probably kill many personally and are just lying about it (rats, cockroaches, other pests).
You kill animals to feed yourself, and for your convenience. And you cannot face that FACT because it contradicts your agenda.
Your position, and failure to acknowledge those facts just demonstrates your immaturity and delusion. And you wonder why you are treated with contempt...
USSBN734 5 months ago
@DocStrange0123 "don't drive" And you never ride in a car, train, bus or car, or ride a bicycle... right?
"unbacked" Uh... Ever been to a farm? Do you think they just let animals come eat their crops? You do realize roads are built, don't you? They don't appear by magic in "animal free zones."
"intelligent discussion" I gave you a fair chance. You are living in a world of delusion and lies. Your moral superiority stance is built on denial.
And now you are defending your delusion.
USSBN734 5 months ago
@DocStrange0123 "I don't have to justify something I don't do" Now it is an IQ test: You buy food from farms. Even if you are a vegetarian, animals were killed by the thousands per acre to feed you. Those that come to eat the crops are killed, more are killed in planting & harvest. Farms are destroyed habitat, representing thousands more dead animals per acre. Your home represents destroyed habitat, and you kill the pests that come there. Roads for your convenience = more dead animals.
USSBN734 5 months ago
Keep hammering the bastards with proof of the damage that the P.E.T.A. like organization caused.
Pfletch83 5 months ago
I love shooting I love eating something that I've hunted and I know has had a good life which should never be compared to pricks who trophy hunt what's the point in shooting a rhino or zebra other than that LACS stay out of the countryside and leave it to people who know how to manage it
kentishsteve 5 months ago
They live in the same cloud cuckoo land as Gaddafi I swear
moggie94 6 months ago
what a bunch of hypocrits .just like the loony rspca .
geoffreyfury 6 months ago
LACS should be banned not Hunting, bunch of self rightious gits
nebcop 6 months ago
@nebcop That would please your primitive mentality, wouldn't it?
DocStrange0123 5 months ago
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nebcop 5 months ago
@DocStrange0123 If you say so, who am I to argue with such superior knowledge but I still think the LACS are a pitiful bunch of bigots
nebcop 5 months ago
@nebcop It doesn't require a superior knowledge to figure out something that obvious, just a bit of empathy, common sense and a minimum respect for other living beings; hunting for fun etcetera is primitive and pointless, is not required for survival in the cases of sport hunting, killing for sport is not ok. what proves to have the head of animal you killed on your wall for example, that you are brave or something? (very brave indeed, to shoot an animal from a safe distance) It's unethical.
DocStrange0123 5 months ago
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nebcop 5 months ago
@nebcop ???? empty comment? no rebutal no nothing? ... ok...
DocStrange0123 5 months ago
@DocStrange0123 How do you justify the animals YOU kill for your convenience and fun?
USSBN734 5 months ago
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DocStrange0123 5 months ago
@USSBN734 I don't have to justify the animals I kill for fun or convenience due to a very simple reason: I don't do anything of that...
I don't kill or eat animals or wear anithing made from animals nor use anything tested on animals if I'm aware it was, I check it first, obviously some things are not fully known and probably some companies cheat etcetera so I might ending using a product tested on animalst without knowing it but I try to avoid it as much as possible... questions?
DocStrange0123 5 months ago
@DocStrange0123 "I don't kill or eat animals" I am going to be kind because I honestly believe you don't know.
You may not EAT animals, but you sure do kill them. What do farms do with animals that eat their crops? What were the farms before? How many animals are killed every season in plowing and planting? Do you use roads? Live in an house or apartment?
Fact is that you pay for animals to be killed every day, and kill some personally for your own convenience, and fun.
USSBN734 5 months ago
@DocStrange0123 "I don't have to justify" And neither do I. And I do kill them, eat their flesh, wear products made from them.
First face the stone cold FACT that your life depends on animals being killed (to protect crops, provide you shelter), and that you kill them for convenience (roads, housing, food again). And THEN we can have an intelligent discussion.
Until then you are simply denying a fact. That is known as "delusion" and there is no point talking to a delusional person.
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DocStrange0123 5 months ago
@USSBN734 Wrong, I don't have to justify something I don't do that has no effect or no impact whatsoever on anything and on nobody (diferent if my unaction do have consecuences). Some of that depends on animal killing, yes, but I try to avoid it as much as possible. I don't kill them for convenience, I don't drive. The rest of your comments can be sumed up in: unbacked up claims, claims about me like if you knew me and "'cause I say so"... intelligent discussion? tell me when you're gonna start
DocStrange0123 5 months ago
These fuckers dont understand. without natural predators humans need to fill the gap and control them. no matter how unpleasant some carebears might find it.
cowboyfromkettins 7 months ago
So if a deer is not clearly suffering then it isn't killed and dies from starvation or disease anyway?
horselover100 1 year ago
Hahaha! Gutted LACS!
horselover100 1 year ago
hahahahahahaha what a group of tossers you lot are. you won t stop hunting. may I take this opportunity to offer you all a little advice??? don t waste your Saturday following us…….go hug a tree or smoke a joint……..hippies
ashleyendurance 1 year ago 2
@ashleyendurance HA yes mate
samshawphotography 11 months ago
@ashleyendurance Well said mate, Hunting will always have a voice, although it won't be one as stupid as LACS. What a bunch of twats.
Airgunhunter2010 11 months ago
LACS animal lovers? cruelty? the deer herd here are a discrace, even the germans treated the jews with more repect than LACS have for these iconic animals. LACS are nothing more than a club for evil, twisted animal abusers who enjoy causing trouble in a group, much like football hooligans, no balls to stand up for anything on thier own, so they climb behind the LACS label and hoodies and abuse animals in the comfort of thier own like minded peers.
SCUM your worse than politicians.
raeberac123 1 year ago
you dont know anything about snaring or cruelty or why people catch these things , they all have a reason and you arsewholes who think its alright to tamper ith our traps have no fucking right and think you are the best and are doing wqhat you should be but you have no clue it =s great doing this to annimals you cunts
crooky94 1 year ago
Well, in a response to the Pro lot, obviously having a short, (and a very short, I may add) masterbation session at what they feel is 'One over on us Antis', then let me tell you this. These people are probably doing the best they can with the limited finances they have. All you lot can do is call people 'twats' and 'idiots; when the majority of you lot are blatant sadists. Now, having seen Otis Ferry in action, tell me he's a nice guy and make me laugh.
IntellectualAmy 1 year ago
@IntellectualAmy A gun shouldn't be too dear and I seem to recall the head had a large pay packet. As that may be incorrect (probably is, I've heard 6 different figures for the pay) it still shouldn't be too expensive to have a gamekeeper of some sort who's a volunteer, they are a charity afterall and may be eligible for various benefits.
claoufaeng 1 year ago
@claoufaeng - I wonder what the head of the 'Countryside Alliance' is paid? Any ideas?
IntellectualAmy 1 year ago
@IntellectualAmy No idea. I'm not even sure about the LACs one, as I said. There are all sorts of figures flying around for both, usually £30000 plus
claoufaeng 1 year ago
Bloody anti twats, don't have a clue.
dettworksoutheast 1 year ago
Just shows you what LACS are like,bunch of do gooders doing more harm.Hunting is a natural selection,the weak and infirm are taken leaving the fit and the healthy to live a quality life.
chimbo151 1 year ago
This shows that this bunch of idiots have absouloutly no idea about healthy wildlife management they are so concerned with attacking shoots and 'monitoring' hunts they are making wild animals suffer along with threatning the livelihood of the local farmers. There is no way a healthy group of deer would let you drive up to them in a landrover and shoot them out the window! Thats far better than traditional deer managemnt! mmmm i think not!
Relentlessbydefault 1 year ago
@11miakoda11 troll antagonist imaginary account.
bigvoicebigsong 1 year ago
state of that place, this shows the need for conservation & population control. lacs should hang there head in shame, and support should be with drawn.
who's with me
foxy358 2 years ago
LOL Classic, these pricks run around all year with their cams sticking them in everyone elses faces, nice to see them get their come-uppence!
phoenix1916 2 years ago 10
@phoenix1916 - Well, always remember this, The Countryside Alliance have more to hide and always have. Like I said, tell me the likes of Otis Ferry are nice people and make me howl.
IntellectualAmy 1 year ago
@IntellectualAmy howl u may well do??"" Did u watch the special documentary tonight on BBC1 about the mauling those 2 toddlers ga=ot from ur beloved vermin???? And u say it was a dog, how pathetic u are!!
phoenix1916 1 year ago
@phoenix1916 Thought you were supposed to be on holiday LOL you never left Clogher you fucking lying blocking faggot, just because you shut down the channel doesnt mean I cant get to you fella.
WARISHELL09 1 year ago
@IntellectualAmy Tell ME the likes of people who trespass on private land, wearing balaclava's and intimidating and assaulting pensioners on perfectly legal hound exercise are nice people. Otis Ferry any day.
dturk5490 1 year ago
@dturk5490 - Do you know? You've just described the exact actions of Otis Ferry to a tee. He also does that; and has the added bonus value of getting his Land Rover-loving flunkies to bully villagers and WOMEN and also assault them with the extreme arrogance that by some odd twist of fate (being Bryan's son) he shouldn't be brought to trial for assault.Well I do NOT condone assault and harmful threats on any side of the fence.And that's from the pros lot or Antis. I don't hold with that at all.
IntellectualAmy 1 year ago
PROPAGANDER CRAP...yes i cant spell before a doo gooding hippy points it out,,
belwadebasset 2 years ago 2
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11Miakoda11 2 years ago
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11Miakoda11 2 years ago
The league want to stop game sports and when they do they cant care for the animals surley this is a sign that they arnt doing a good job. But the only thing i believe in in hunting is a quick clean kill. Not like hound hunting where a stag i bundled on while dogs are biting it and hunter stabbing it 1 shot 1 kill.
airgunner106 2 years ago 2
Hounds don't bundle a deer, during a stag hunt, they bay it, then a hunter shoots it. :)
DeviousLittleFox 2 years ago
Well what a surprise, people who have no clue about wildlife welfare or management. Don't think they will be shouting about this will they ! TB is the scourge of farmers and wildlife, allow the hunts, terrier men and stalkers to carry on with there job as they have been for hundreds of years, controlling the countryside to maintain healthy animals and dispatching those diseased, ill or injured in a far more humane way than letting them die in prolonged pain and suffering.
ellychio 2 years ago
Any needless suffering of animals should be highlighted and stopped. I'm sure the League do not wish for any of this suffering though and trust they will act appropriately. Unlike people who hunt.
Yes, compared to humans animals are innocent. And sentient, and helpless against the ways in which we exploit and abuse them.
missfurtles 2 years ago
@missfurtles They are not helpless. Wild animals can run. I agree things like bearbaiting, where the animal cannot escape or fight is cruel, but when the fox can run and hide it is neither abuse not exploitation. If there were larger predators, they'd sort out the numbers. Bear in mind that while humans live in a civilised way, and domestic animals aren't used to how nature works, wild animals do not and are not affected by hunting the same as a human would be.
claoufaeng 1 year ago
@claoufaeng - And that justifies it??! Not to mention your last sentence which makes no sense whatsoever. Justification for mindless tossers to get their sick 'traditional' jollies. Keeping numbers in check my arse. The mind boggles.
missfurtles 1 year ago
@missfurtles It doesn't make sense? I'll try again. Humans fear death because of the unknown, an animal fears death for instinct. They recover from it much faster and it doesn't cause them the same trauma as it would an animal unused to living in uncertain conditions eg a pet cat would be traumatised from being chased by a pack of dogs because it's not used to the fear, whilst a fox has spent it's life having squabbles and fights with each other where one might kill the other. Any sense now?
claoufaeng 1 year ago
@claoufaeng No sorry, you are talking utter shite! They recover from death much faster? You need to brush up on your written communication skills or get a brain.
You are not a wild animal so how the hell can you sermonise about how they feel?
missfurtles 1 year ago
@missfurtles Recover from the chase, the near death experience. And nor are you a wild animal, but I can tell you how their hormones and endocrinal systems react and that their body recovers from stress much faster than a human in the same situation because when we're chased by something about to kill us, our body goes into shock, whilst theirs cleans up the adrenaline rush and goes on as normal. Third time is the charm they say. Also, no, it doesn't justify it, but I wasn't trying to.
claoufaeng 1 year ago
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missfurtles 1 year ago
7:28 Sophistic poiny : if the only reason to kill is to end the suffering of a deer and NO OTHER REASON, they should not kill an infected one if he is not suffering. And by the way how can they measure suffering ? According to their logic, they should not kill an infected deer threatenning the herd... absurd.
JuliendAnce 2 years ago
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Anti-hunt profile : urban retarded young adult, uncertain about is gender, onanist, in conflict with his parents, having failed in studies, working as a clerck in some computer store if not unemployed, full of hatred and resentment. The main point being that he is absolutely unable to give any help to the society, to anybody who really need help. So he pretends to help animals who never asked for any and don't need any.
JuliendAnce 2 years ago 3
Bit of projecting going on there?
missfurtles 2 years ago
Id love to hunt thes tossers
KEEP HUNTING
rgrg100 2 years ago
one in the eye for LACS.
ArmedBrit 2 years ago
fucking hypacrits
jnewton177 2 years ago
Unfortunately the ecosystem is that messed up in England that we can no longer live in harmony with nature. Its been so for a long time now. There are simply to many people who all wish to live the modern opulent life style. The only way we can have these small nature reserves these days is to actively manage them. Groups such as the LACS though started with good intentions have just been taken over with radicals who have little or no understanding and so as a group have totally lost there way.
MooooFreeee 2 years ago
people from one of these bloody groups who let all the deer loose in my friends parkland by cutting all the fences loose, apparently to 'liberate them' they got onto the main road and three had to be put down. so called animal lovers
andrewshd 2 years ago 6
Hey its true beware the hippi without a cause, thats criminal damage and is not supported by me, however that doesnt justify hunting.
sugarraygras 2 years ago
just about says it all
phatsod 2 years ago
I once had a friend who had a sick cat and 'debated' what possible solutions there may be to solve the 'malady'. ( Option 1 ), call in 'Vetinary specialist', (Option 2 )get a 'group of drunk people on horses' and a 'pack of dogs' and chase the little fellow untill he collapses from exhaustion, and have dogs rip him limb from limb and then have participants bathe in the blood...... I think he chose the medical argument in the end!
sugarraygras 3 years ago
should have killed the fucking friend as well
phatsod 2 years ago
I doubt you could kill anything that can fight back, you fucking pussy!
sugarraygras 2 years ago
Its true that I believe these deers are sick....Hurry, lets bring back getting drunk and riding those fucking foxes down again!! WE need to kill these little fuckers with rabid dogs immediately before a vet arrives!
sugarraygras 3 years ago
are you some sort of TWAT grow up you fucking tosser!!!!!
phatsod 2 years ago
Actually most quorn products are made with egg so unsuitable for vegans , but as you are a fuckwitted retard you wouldn't know that or much else.
attackofthemongs 3 years ago
the red deer is the largest british mammal and they need to eat alot of grass to be able to survive and they also carry ticks etc.. these are a few reasons why they should be managed also when they are killed they are not dicarded they are sold as meat and eaten by local people! so what is the problem?
grousekeeper223 3 years ago 3
wats that??? league against cruel sports are all fukin wankers!!!!
grousekeeper223 3 years ago
nature takes care of animal population and wellbeing without human intervention. anyone who things they're helping animals by shooting them to death is in a denial. we dont kill sick humans to help the human kind either. it's illogical and arrogant to assume that we humans know better than nature itself. it's natural for animals to get sick sometimes, get old and die. just like humans. shooting them with a gun is unnatural, cruel and plain stupid.
TangerineTangerine 3 years ago
What makes it unnatural? Humans evolved intelligence to make tools which have developed over generations. This is entirely natural.
Without predators like Lynx and Wolves to control their population the deer become overpopulated and many die from disease and starvation. This is cruel.
Culling a small precentage of the population humanely, will prevent over population and maintain a healthy population.
You're in denial, humans are a natural predator of deers.
cabelas1987 3 years ago 2
please get over your human/god complex. what about all those species humans *dont* hunt? How come their population is mostly in balance without our intervention? nature takes care of its own & did so long before we ever existed. Humans do more damage than good with their "intelligence". You're not a natural predator if your lifestyle is destroying this planet & your health. Lions would starve w/o flesh, but you won't-
TangerineTangerine 3 years ago
Because most of their populations are not in balance. I don't deisagree that humans have caused a great deal of damage. We've destroyed habitats and removed species which play an important role in the ecosystem. As a result our wildlife and habitats require management to maintain our biodiversity.
Your views are very naive and idealistic. Humans are omnivores and the top predator on the planet so we should eat meat.
cabelas1987 3 years ago
Also I get the feeling you would rather large numbers of these deer suffered horrible deaths from disease, rather than have a healthy population maintained through management.
We have too many deer in this country as it is, you probably don't realise the damage to woodland habitats that too many deer can cause.
cabelas1987 3 years ago 2
As for my lifestyle destroying the planet, thats bull, i'm studying for a career in conservation and my previous job was all about increasing recycling rates etc. in the area where I live.
what do you do to help our wildlife?????
cabelas1987 3 years ago
because all the others we don't hunt have PREDATORS- red deer are too big to be taken down bu foxes, now. if we had bear and wolves, then that might be different.
danebrewer10 3 years ago
what the hell? you might want to was you hair, all that shit coming your your mouth....
danebrewer10 3 years ago
i cant stand do gooders like you saying that it is unnatural for humans to kill deer! man has killed deer since the start of evolution but over the thousands of years we have developed new methods such as shooting since the invention of the gun! it is humane and the meat is organic and you know where it has come from instead of this supermarket quorn shit that all you fuckin vegan cunts buy!! heres a suggestion why dont you all just fuck off and mind your own buisness!!!!!!!
grousekeeper223 3 years ago
Take note everyone fuck brain twat above grousekeeper223.DRRRRRR His words come from the illness inbreeding ,your mum fucked her brother and you are the son.
Feel sorry for him..
theworldinpain 3 years ago
you have had to resort to insults because you do not have a reasonable comeback to my explanation on the management of british deer species. i have a masters degree in countryside management and conservation so you cannot just send me abuse bout me been inbred which i am certainly not!! go and find something else to do in your spare time other than talk shite.
remmington700 3 years ago 3
You talk crap.
Any one can have a degree but that does not make you intelligent as we can see!
theworldinpain 3 years ago
There was a mix up in youtube acounts again, but i also have a degree and no it doesnt neccesarily make me inteligent but i have been trained in the areas relevent to this debate and have also got industry experience in this area, so i know what i am talking about!
remmington700 3 years ago
just what you would expect a comment from someone who is obviously fucking brain dead and ignorant!!!!!!!
phatsod 2 years ago
Good luck with killing the little defenceless animals in the future. You are my hero, you seem to be very intelligent yourself,....welldone!
sugarraygras 2 years ago
well, if you mean all hunters....i live in indiana, and here there is a massive overpopulation and they cause hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage to crops alone. Nevermind the insurance costs and repair for damaged vehicles. yeah, there just perfect little innocent critters.
unkleomar 2 years ago
No brain
theworldinpain 3 years ago
oh is that what we call murder these days, sports?
TangerineTangerine 3 years ago
RSPCA are a bunch of ignorant idiots, as bad as LACS
dartmoordog 3 years ago
id like the opportunity to punch their fuckin lights out bunch of beligerent lacs scum
mardycustard 3 years ago
fuck the antis
djtoonraider666 3 years ago
as if we needed evidence that they didnt have the slightest clue about animal welfare....scum
4344e5rf 3 years ago
They are a terrible group of individuals, with very few members all they are is a group of thugs which do not understand the basics of animal management. They dont understand that to have a healthy herd of deer, culling is essential, it eliminates unhealthy and old deer which otherwise will die a painful death, in the case of old deer-starving to death due to worn teeth. TB is a notifiyable disease, they should be sued under animal cruelty laws in my opinion
sideshow690 3 years ago 7
LACS/PETA. Low life, people hating scum. Hope you all rot. Go hunt!
dartmoordog 3 years ago 2
l.a.c.s. is such a fucking joke. is a bad as peta. they kill more animals in their@refuges' than anyone else. i believe the figure is around 80%
mbb05jb 3 years ago 18
Isnt it ironic also, the way these twats dont like the tables being turned on them and a camera stuck in their faces, LMFAO hypocrites
phoenix1916 4 years ago 23
@phoenix1916 well said
samshawphotography 11 months ago
This goes to show that proper management and controlled hunting is best for animal welfare!!!
phoenix1916 4 years ago 5
You bunch of hypocritical ass holes are a total disgrace, you edit your footage and your website to make us pro hunters look like utter thugs when actually you are the ones who start what has now become a rural countryside war... why don't you piss off and go and make a song and dance about something you have an impact on, you are all a disgrace.
winch225 4 years ago 6
Culling deers is not cruel.
barristerblighter 4 years ago 6
LACS and the rest of the bleeding heart brigade are social failures who need animals as their own species can't stand them. Now they can't relate to those they claim to protect. The sneering smartarse confronted about the sick stag is typical of the moron which infests this bit of society. No doubt a dole scrounger, doesn't stop him doing work and causing trouble, does it? Animal rights activists are parasites, it's them who need to be culled not the deer.
tmcmurr1 4 years ago 4
The LACS are nothing more than animal abusers and the RSPCA must take action before TB sweeps the country and bring these so called animal lovers to justice
willshirk 4 years ago 3
It says it all when the LACS spokesman won't even look at the camera when he's spouting his bullshit. Scared we'll all see the lies in his eyes. LACS are proving themselves further to being the uneducated, unrealistic scum that they really are.
dronksey 4 years ago 3
LOL he fucked that deer up with his knife and ninja pirate skills to break neck
Barrett1223 4 years ago
Absolutely brilliant, this video sould be used to portray hese assholes for what they are ignorant townies, who havent a clue about animal welfare
phoenix1916 4 years ago 5
BASC and THE COUTNTRYSIDE ALLIANCE RULE!!!!
bakersatan 4 years ago 4
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members of LACS recently threw a 82 year old man into the canal near me... his crime?? he was fishing. thats what these guys stand for. throwing old aged pensioners into freezing canals because 'they love animals'
porty500 4 years ago
This is bloody disgraceful. All this is probably the result of a bunch of people who take it on themselves to form an organisation to protect fury creatures. They know nothing about wildlife, they just see hunters working in the field, looking after the countryside and do not like it. They probably buy meat from a butcher so indirectly are party to animals being killed in slaughterhouses under stressful conditions. Hypocrites!
mrspenn16 4 years ago 4
here here !!
11994h 4 years ago 4
here here!
lacs need to learn more about deer management and cull more efficiently...
shooting from a vehicle stationary or moving is a breech of the law...
maybe we should "monitor" them as closely as they monitor us...
i beg of people to learn more about hunting before brushing it off as cruel... suffering animals is that not far crueler?
scaryhenri 4 years ago 5
Sadly the rose-tinted do-gooding approach of the LACS bears no relation to nature. It leaves weak and diseased animals to die a lingering and painful death.
Since the removal of predators, which took out the unhealthy animals, it has been essential to "manage" all such herds.
The best way to do this is hunting with hounds (because the healthy animals easily outrun them and only the weak are killed). Alternatively, stalking and shooting can play a part (though this is rarely so selective).
Ridinghunter 4 years ago 5
The natural scheme of things in this country has been irrevocably changed by our ancestors so if we are to be humane then we must ensure that the sick, old and infirm, that predators would have taken, are culled as cleanly as possible. This means a safe accurate rifle shot from a competent person.
By the way the guy shooting from the land rover was in clear violation of the deer act and commiting a criminal offence by shooting from a vehicle.
longrangerob 4 years ago 3
Where are the National Park authorities that they are prepared to allow wild defncles animals to be treated in this cavalier fashion?
amaleco 4 years ago 2
defenceless animals what the fuck u on mate fucking hell haha ha lol oh god how can u even think of that of course they fucking are u fruit cake what u expecting to see deers with a fucking magnum fuck off and dye!!!!!!!
benbarclay20 4 years ago
It would seem to me that using the cuntryside alliance as a truth-o-meter is a bit of a problem? They are just trying to repeal the hunting act... That guy "If I allowed my sheep to get in that state I would be in prison" - BOLLOCKS the animal welfare act does NOTHING real to protect animals.
fatveganbstard 4 years ago
U dismiss the whole trust of this films point to make ur own about the countryside alliance, how shallow and narrow mined
phoenix1916 4 years ago
Well LACS,its only cruel when it suits,how come that man isnt behind bars? well is he?i am sure i would be for doing that?these words come to mind, DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO.enough said.
sitheygyp 4 years ago 2
nothing but a bunch of ignorant thugs so what are we going to do about them?
man67hol 4 years ago 2
And these people say they care for animals! Thank God there is someone there to expose them as the cruel idiots they are, who know nothing about animal care and the countryside in general.
holtsedge 4 years ago
When are these idiots in LACS going to be closed down? Thank goodness for the Countryside Alliance.
pimlico191 4 years ago 2
HA!
fatveganbstard 4 years ago
League Against Common Sense ....... enough said!!
devonfuse 4 years ago
This is disgusting. Further evidence LACS have no clue about animal welfare let alone the well being of deer on Exmoor. As was made clear in the video, if this was on a farm, the owner would be in prison and so should they.
pdesmith 4 years ago
2 Choices. Re-introduce wolves, or simulate wolves by shooting.
We have removed the natural predators from the system who (by literally taking the weakest/oldest), ensure the survival of the fittest, and maintain a fit breeding population.
LACS man says people can't act god. No, but we can act wolf...
rgh105 4 years ago 2
LACS are hypocrites, always have been always will be. They are nothing other than a political party keen only to do well by themselves at the expense of everybody else, human or animal. What we need is another freepost campaign from them! And the RSPCA=LACS just spelt differently.
llucan999 4 years ago
Abdication of reponsibility is a disease that seems to be endemic in 21st century society, but the mantra of 'we cannot play God and decide WHO (note the usual anthropomorphic language) lives or dies' as expounded by Douglas Batchelor and his friends in this film is simply breathtaking in its arrogance and hypocrisy.
blackpigdog 4 years ago
WHAT?? The impartial organisation that is the RSPCA found no connection between the stabbing and their good mates the LACS? Well who'd have thought...
HarperSpirit 4 years ago
What a disgraceful bunch of idiots. They clearly know nothing about animal husbandry and welfare. Leave the countryside to those people who have learned through generations how to care for the countryside and create healthy habitats for animal welfare and sustainability. It makes me feel sick that these people get the coverage they do for their wholly innacurate arguaments.
mcgovern01 4 years ago
Of course they know nothing about it, they've never lived in it. If this level of abuse happened on a farm there would be hell to pay.
mortalmerlin 4 years ago
Defra will do nothing, they are as inept now as they were during the first foot and mouth outbreak at the begining of this century.
politically constipated!!!!!!!!!!!
hotguitarman2 4 years ago
No, their controling them the "natural" way.
Goldfishsoldier02 4 years ago
If this is correct, DEFRA should immediately investigate to protect the farming community. I also find the naivety of the LACS representative depressing.
ianmjacob1955 4 years ago
If the LACS are as incompetant as this video shows DEFRA should bring charges against them. They won't of course as DEFRA are also mind bogglingly incompetant themselves.
ThugVisigoth 4 years ago
The stupidity of the LACS seemingly knows no bounds.
guybaxendale 4 years ago
LACS are so dumb if they control the amount of deer before disease sets in they will probably have to shoot less of them. But being LACS they think they know everything.
dustyfox 4 years ago
Revolting. These people should have a long hard look at themselves and decide if their political dogma is really worth all of this.
OneEyePI 4 years ago
They won't though, when you're as convinced by your own self-righteousness as LACS are, inconvenient truths such as "even sanctuary-deer get sick & die, especially if not managed properly" simply don't feature.
The field-sports community have been warning of this for decades.
PennineLad 4 years ago