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  • That was fairly short...

  • Why can't I watch this video? It keeps skipping to the end.

  • What's with Brix's British accent? Do Yanks normally adopt the accent after living there for a while?

  • balls. 9 minutes?

  • right time, wrong place

  • Is there anyone who still hasn't heard 'Cheap Space Chant' ?

    In YouTube, search for 'Timekode, Mark E Smith'

    and listen to the strangest and best MES/Fall

    collaboration of them all...

  • Two seconds long: does anyone have any clue as to why?

  • I'm confused here. 2 seconds of an opening video.

  • Why does this play in 2 seconds for me?!! 

  • @damobrfc1875 It's the same for everyone I think. It used to play ok, maybe the uploader changed it. Shame coz it was a good interview.

  • Smithy shows Skinner to be the talentless ball bag that we all knew he was anyway. It's nice to have it reaffirmed . Let's face it MES has more talent in his big toe !.

  • I can't say exactly when,but no more than a couple of years before this interview,Frank Skinner was in a newspaper saying how he'd just got into The Fall and was working his way through their back catalogue- so all that stuff about being a fan for half his life and MES being a hero is totally fake historical revisionism and he knows it-don't you Frank? I just wish I had the old article- he was going "I can't believe I never got into them before" or something very similar-No one else remember?

  • @MrTulip65 When did he say he was "a fan for half his life"?

  • @Inopedes I can't say word for word so call me a bitch if you want to-like I said,I wish I had the article.

    I remember thinking "Good on ya;it's never too late to get the M.E.S. bug" and then this piece on the"Culture Show" and our Frank's a little jittery about "meeting his hero"- I mean...have a fucking word....

  • He looks like hurricaine higgins older brother

  • Stewart Lee's got his Kurious Oranj!

  • Discounted tickets for The Fall in the Liverpool 02 Academy 2 on the 19th of May. They're normally £17 but we have them for £10. Send us a message on this if you'd like one!

  • Asshole

  • that's what 33 years of caning speed and drinking beer non stop'll do for you. He's the thinking man's Shane MacGowan....

  • The idiots are winning.

  • smith looks about 80

  • Its really funny because Frank is such a fucking idol worshipper and Mark hates that.

  • Skinner just found out his idol thinks he's a cunt!

  • "We all want to be loved, Mark."

    "No, I don't."

    "I do."

    "Well you don't matter."

    Fucking classic. The interviewer's a cunt, though.

  • @PersonMan92 Doesn't Mark say "Why, aren't you married?" then offers one of his sisters to Frank??

  • Does he? I have a really hard time understanding his accent.

  • @PersonMan92 he asks him "are you not married?" sorry to shatter your illusions

  • @jackhartcup Oh no, you've shattered my illusions! Excuse me while I go hang myself.

  • smutmunchers

  • If MES had a tiny 'tache, he'd be a dead ringer for the Fuhrer. Discuss.

  • He looks nothing like Obama.

  • skinner dropped a clanger when he suggested the rest of the band didn't like him, what a dick !

  • Nob meets Nob jokes

  • Frank Skinner is such a fawning wanker

  • If this was a tongue up someone's arse competition, Skinner's won the prize so perhaps he knows where to shove it!

  • I hate Frank Skinner - the guy is so up himself. He has this affectation of being an intellectual and serious thinker who just happens to be very humorous too.

    Well he is no intellectual - his crappy newspaper column reveals him to be a very mediocre thinker. He is not that funny either.

  • Aye! Pay Yer rates!

  • Can anyone tell me the point of Laverne - other than blokes to have a wank over?

  • John Peel was right; the Fall are always different, always the same.

  • Jesus christ why are those people so scared of MES. If he gets learly just twat him lmao.

  • Frank Skinner is an excellent interviewer. Mark E Smith is a one of a kind. Good interview. Thanks for posting.

  • I quite admire Mark E Smith and The Fall as they have always stayed loyal to their own beliefs, never strayed away from what they wanted to do. I don't like Frank Skinner one bit. It was so nice that the BBC (or was it ITV?)rejected his demands for six million pounds.Mark E Smith has always been uncompromising and real.Love him or hate him, you certainly cannot ignore Mark E Smith. (P.S - what on earth is that Grayson Perry doing on the vid? Isn't he normally dressed like Alice in Wonderland?)

  • I hate Frank Skinner. Of all the comics/fans to go and interview MES...why not get Stewart Lee? Skinner is a conceited miserly greedy unfuuny comic. He had his day in the 90s, but sadly the beeb-those who kicked him out when he demanded a pay rise-seem keen to bring him back of late.

    MES just takes the piss. If he doesn't think yuo're worth talking too or taking seriously he will misbehave, and that's what he's doing here. Its like sending a lamb to the slaughter

  • i love these fucking ponces who try to analyse Mark E Smith.

    he's not a genius or a god: he's just an uncompromising, extremely cool dude who makes music that's *real*: he's true to himself and possesses no bullshite, and that's all there is to it. and his music's fucking brilliant.

  • @DavySolaris there is undeniable genius in that

  • @DavySolaris are you saying frank skinner is a ponce? :S . Hes one of the most down to earth nicest celebrities around...

  • @DavySolaris You know nothing about music mate, and judging by the general sentiment expressed you're probably a fairly despicable person too.

  • @DavySolaris so essentially he is a "God" of men to you? I think he's talented, inane for laughs, angry, a mad drunken old man with some kind of post tramatic post punk stress disorder and some other shit I can make up. Fuck, He makes good music.. that's about it :)

  • @DavySolaris What makes you think Mark E. Smith ISN'T a genius?

  • @seadonkeyridesagain I LOVE the Fall & Mark E Smith. He's one of my all time favourite musicians, but I think people often throw the term 'genius' around too often.

  • You never see Mark E.Smith & Lester Piggott in the same place...or at least not Spitting Image's Lester Piggott puppet

  • 2:44 jesus he's not a godamn crocodile

  • manchester..so much 'not'to answer for...

  • lol 4 sisters,they teased him?

  • i like th fall, but i loathe theyr crowds, its like seeing fuckin oasis live or summet

  • I'm fifty year old Mancunian. I've even got a leather jacket and I smoke and drink. If only I'd been Mark E Smith instead of a boring old fart who writes comments on utube.

  • @thetragedyofbirth So where did it all go wrong? I have a wild idea, hear me out - Maybe the difference between you and he is that Mark E Smith is more than just a man in a leather jacket that smokes and drinks! I know, I must be crazy to suggest such a preposterous idea! ... I mean, people might even start believing that he WORKED VERY HARD to get the credit and recognition he deserves... ;-)

  • Oh God, Mark looks like a little golum fella... a city hobgoblin!

  • yes he's a twat, yes he's a cunt, but at the end of the day the music speaks for itself, and if you don't know it's amazing, you're a fool, that's the thick and thin of it. "eat each other, eat yourself fitter"

  • I love the way Stewart Lee has an orange.

  • is he really 50 here?! jeez he looks like he's at least 93

  • and when he was 30 years old, he looked like a 22 year old

  • this is the most coherent and sober I've ever seen him!

  • I think MES was taken aback at Skinner's sincerity. So many people quote The Fall as influences and have only heard a couple of tracks. Can see why a lot of people slag 'em off though...

  • If you do not like The Fall then you don't like music=you like clothes.

  • Frank Skinner only got into 'The Fall' about 2 or 3 years ago.

  • so?

  • .....where media folk get down and dirty while you're shovelling shit to keep Gordon Brown spouting epithets of the bollocks variety at Prime Ministers Question Time....tell that to some Sun readers, though.

  • I think, Mark E smith doesnt actually know why he is good, and i dont really know why he is good. And particualry i Think he is a bad man lol :P. But i love the music. :)

  • Mark E hasn't got to explain anything. He's not prickly. His legacy is important. There are top drawer songs in there. Living to late. Cut down on the drinking though.

  • He's a ludicrous nobody who got lucky and he's generally worshipped by people of the same kind. Frank Skinner being an obvious example.

  • spot on; he has not spent 30 years "defying convention" and "keeping it real by playing small clubs", he has spent 30 years living out his childish and semi-developed personality through the medium of "music". the worship of Mark E Smith as a kind of rock hero (or "anti-hero" if you want to resort to utterly meaningless journalistic cliche) is mystifying and rather sad.

  • But that's rock music. It's all about enigma, about confusing the masses, or just your little select fanbase, and keeping them from figuring out why they're really here. Rock stars are the new pagan idols, like jackal-headed gods from Egypt. He probably really is a mummy.

    The hip priest will come, and very soon, rock will be dead and people will despise all rock stars when they realize what they are, priests of the occult who led them to hell or very close.

  • good analagy.. i know MES and he is a priest of the occult !

  • that might be true, but personally i don't care to much about what u2 fans think about music.

  • James if your are a goat i want to adopt u after that comment

  • o.k and vice versa, I really can't imagine what a Fall fan would have to teach me about anything. Goat dude.

  • 'pow'

  • Come back in 30 years and if I still know you, then I'll listen!

  • was that a comment for me or for goat dude/h&s1988 ??

  • you

  • why did s confirmed sleeper with an 000000ennema,y whose really a major cuntribution to the world of analyitcal philosopjhyt.....op.s is IRK the second best word in any languague.....................­....£

  • Margaret Thatcher: 'Mark, I want you to set up a cacophanous 'music' ensemble, a group of ne'er-do-Wales, an assemblage of such shit-nibbling, degenerates such that the average British voter would turn up their nose and exclaim in a puff of smoke....

  • they're a bit wo, they're a bit wa, they're a bit tasty, they all make a tasty living exploiting your anger in the showbusiness division.....

  • the fall are just another panacea to blunt your urge to firebomb the status quo

  • sINNER SORRY sKINNER AT the end, thats either an ironic wig or he's offended the make-up person

  • the Media has a vested interest in getting you interested/passionate(?) in/about whatever half-baked codsWALLAP a randomn over paid/educated media executive decides they like,,,possibly,,,today,,,anyw­ay

    Mark E. Smith....difficult...???.....m­oi?

    (give 'im a good hiding before an interview and he's a pussycat.... i HEARD....

  • why is frank skinner kissing his ass so much?

  • the fall='stunning'

  • like finding out that the lovely, pouting Lauren, 25+, works in media and likes animals , is in fact, a hairy-arsed, ex-steelworker(who commuted) from Grimsby....with a drinking...opportunity....

  • I like the way he tried palming off one of his sisters.

  • "I'm like bloody convinced that getting -1 out of you 'carzy' like fall fans means we're on the right track..."

    Brown/Cameron/Clegg/Raving Facist Alliance

  • "my final guest has been described as, quite simply, the finest Val Doonican of his generation...it's!!!..what's his name again..??"

    p.s. is Stewart Lee possibly the least funny person on God's grey Earth...

  • No, I think he's pretty hilarious, just gotta keep a sharp mind.

  • YouTube commenting - you get +1 and you think you're Oscar Wilde.....then you see "I just lit someone else's fart for the firts time, dude" which gets +6,000,000 and you think....a bit like the Fall...why do I fuckin' bother....

  • mark e smith looks about 115 years old

  • Lauren Levern - she's fragrant, she's intellectually poised, but does she take it up the jacksie...???

  • intellectually poised??? I dont think so!

  • what does a turbulent decade look like?

    will I know one when I see one...?

  • NEVER MEET YOUR 'HEROES'!!!!!!.....THEY don't like it and it leaves a nasty stain on the carpet.....this feels like meeting that bird you really fancy and she's.....a..bit..dull

    Mark E. Smith - why won't you play the game, you dour bugger!!

  • "Sir Elton John I hear you cry!"

    only if you're David Furnish, luv.....

  • ...beauiful .............

  • I once lived underneath Hollywood Boulevard for several months in a converted parking garage and ate nothing but potatoes and listened to nothing but Domesday Payoff, Bend Sinister, and Johnny Yesno by the Cabs.

    And I survived!...

  • Mark E.Smith is a true ICON and GENEUIS,and Brix is still beatiful,Brix I Love You!!!

  • interviewer is a twat.

  • how dare grayson perry compare himself to mark e smith

  • Extra-odinary to hear the comparison isn't it!

  • Great band, shit interview.

  • career comedians clustering round a national treasurer...except for Madsen, get that Little Bo Peep outfit on ya daft Thatcherite economist.....you!!

  • media hyperbole for beginners;

    fury - annoyed, mildly upset

    caged - imprisoned

    romp - to engage in sexual intercourse

    ...and they wonder why we're all over-excited!!!

  • I was thinking more cuntlicking arse, but we'll go with your idea, luv!

  • Skinner looks like a bitch from Top Man in this fucking interview. Yapping, arselicking cunt!

  • one comment at the start(are u that comedian)

    skinner was made to look like an arse!

  • never trust anyone who's had sex with David Badeel....

  • Ultimatekev - you obviously don't know who Lauren Laverne is. John Peel called Kenickie's Come Out 2Nite a Teenage Kicks for the '90s.

  • she's pretty and pretty intelligent but what did John Peel know about music?

  • folds up a Financial Times, removes an Ipod earpiece, logs out of a laptop, takes out a set of dentures and then, after affecting a snarling, anti-hero type voice, he says

    "..ok luv, I'm ready to go".... ACTION!

  • Frank Skinner(if that really is your name) - you either get 'im or ....I forgot my point...

  • as if that toothpick presenter bimbo has heard a single Fall song in her empty life.

  • her favourite band is sonic youth so i wouldnt be surprised if she has.

  • from 30 Beans to Mr Stalin in years orsumfing oh shit, Oscar Wilde never had this trouble!

  • I wish we had got to see MES burn Skinner's eyes out with a fag. I'd pay my licence fee for that, me.

  • ....from Mr Bean to Stalin in 30 years.........

  • she did say "he's been raising hell for over 30 years" didn't she?...Mark would spread a tablecloth and serve her a classy yet unpretentious Darjeeling, possibly with a couple of digestives, for media hyperbole like that...

  • it's "Brix Smith" 's dog I feel sorry for...

  • "exasperated film crew beats snot out of self-important underground music 'hero' before sweeping up whats left and allowing it to be interviewed by self-indulgent, ageing Brummie 'comedian' " shocker...!!!!!

  • Aye; but he is definitely appreciated.

  • and rightly so.

  • judging by the bint waxing lyrical about the 'scummy clubs',the pug is the dog of choice for chic pop-people 'sharing their thoughts' in music documentaries (witness Devo's Mark Mothersbaugh in the marvellous DVD DeRailRoaded)....I await Mr Smith's next televisual appearance, craddling a pint of bitter in one hand and a Pug in the other, darling.....

  • CELEBRITY DENTAL TREATMENT - starring Mark E. Smith, Scary 'Spice' and that prat from the Pogues........

    "he has that sort of charisma a dictator has"...(where you're a little bit nervous about being shipped off to a camp in Eastern Europe and gassed...)

  • Brilliant.

    But he looks like hell. Looks 75, not 50.

    Resembles Johnny Cash.

  • "the Celebrity fan".....is there anything more pitiful on the face of God's grey earth (I exclude Grayson Perry from that pessimistic analysis.... get that Little Bo Peep outfit on, ya daft bastard!!)

  • As I'm a super, super mega fan of 'them', I had a hologram of 'them' beamed to a little place in Switzerland where one might go for a little 'privacy' (apparently this happened on a wet night in ...what does that say, Jeeves..? Wooolferhimpton....??)

  • mark he smith is no r2d2' but he come very close to the worst droid ever invented. that makes him a genius unlike heinrich himler

  • 2 career arseholes who've never had to work in a factory/down a mine(except Thatcher closed them all)/up John Peel's arse schmoooze each other......Grayson Perry's a real genius, anyone that can be taken seriously dressed as Little Bo Peep (except in this video) has my vote....

  • she did say "recent landmark birthday" didn't she?...Mark would spread her pretty nose all over her face for media hyperbole like that...

  • oh man violence against women is like so avant garde and hip!

  • oh man violence against women is so avant garde and hip! fucking hell..

  • Mark E. Smith - get it completely. It's easy,

    be your fuckin self.

  • if pissed people ran the world......would we notice any difference?

  • consuming the "media"......its like falling face-first into a pile of urine........

  • I heard he owns a colostomy bag...

  • The Fall, MES.. Shit. Lord Mark is a wanker of the utmost proportions; a sad parody of his own self-importance. Precocious twat has to go around with a body guard. C_R_E_E_P. Mark, shock us and take up being sober.

  • Real innovative guy, but man he looks like a creature from Lord of the Rings these days. He looks old even for 50.

  • I once saw him having a pedicure and he was crying like a big baby!

  • i've never been able to truly enjoy The Fall cos the music itself is f**kin' ace but I can't understand what Mark Smith is going on about. Seeing in him interviews he seems sort of infantile and employs the simple distraction techniques of a six year old child. I used to work in North Manchester General A+E and saw him when he came in. He didn't seem hard then I can tell you. In fact he was shaking like a shitting dog and his heart was going like a fucked clock.

  • What's a genius like Gladson Pissflap doing associating with a bank manager like that ?!?!?

  • What's a genius like Madsen Pirie doing associating himself with a drunkard like that!!

  • "the Fall are shite" - Don Van Vliet

  • Frank Skinner is a plonker.

  • cute british blonde presenter, what's her name ?

  • Lauren Laverne.

  • I'm a fan of the Fall's music, but I've never understood Mr. Smith.

    To be honest, he seems like a few cards short of a full deck.

  • Truer of YOU than him....

  • GREAT clip...I completely missed it when it was originally shown.

    Happy Birthday to Punk's answer to Alan Bennett!!

  • I like Mark E. Smith cuz he gets how important rythym is in rock and roll.

  • i wish it was fucking 2008 i want to know who the next president is.

  • readier is not a word you dumb bitch.

  • He looks like Quentin Crisp. Damn brilliant, tho'.

  • Mark is and always has been a really nice guy, yes at times speed and booze frazzled but he is just naturally wary of the media and the lazy way it tries to portray him. He is a proper Northern gent but never try to tame him.

  • I agree with that, well said ,the media often misleads

    regarding The Fall and Mark is much better a human

    being and far greater than given credit for......

  • saw him playing jesus on ideal on bbc3 the other week,the mans a legend

  • not a day over 62

  • i know that brix had carpal tunnel syndrome a few years ago.

  • you get the impression frank's only doing the interview for one person, which is a bit shit. cant say he asks any refreshing questions or gives a new angle on the fall. bit useless really.

  • ooh he is big time!! even sang elastic man with

    baddiel on his show ,not half bad, to a bemused audience,military like clapping afterwards.......

  • Frank Skinner came across better than I thought he would. I finally forgive him for his merciless slagging of Scotland during Euro96 & WC98. I would never have had him down as a Fall fan.

  • ha! left hand and there is nothing wrong with it! This is not the worst but the crap Lauren spews...terrifying Mark,hellraiser, scared to play The Fall etc Come On! and Frank is'nt immune, still Mark is the man to straighten cliched idiots. The ace Fall line-up, four guitarists and drummer look happy/contented though and Brix is ever complimentary.....

  • What the hell is wrong with Brix's right hand?

  • Unfortunately, Brix is still plagued by vestiges of the Carpal Tunnel [tendinitis] which incapacitated her in the mid-1990s.

    At one point the pain was so unbearable that she was reduced to walking around with frozen food strapped to her arm.

  • as Ricky Jervais would say;

    are you 'avin' a larf?? IS EE 'AVIN A LAFF..???

    (apologies if you are a world-renowned expert in how to treat injuries with frozen foods....)

  • Wish I was, Mr. Brent.

    She was in a great deal of pain and did have to resort to frozen peas on occasion.

    I work in an environment where repetitive-strain injury is common and I'm just glad I haven't come down with it yet - it doesn't seem like much fun.

  • actually, it's Andy Millbank old chum, not David Brent....

  • Not to be funny, but isn't it Millman?

    Do I get "Extra" credit for remembering that?

  • skinners alright eh? bit gushing but he is not talking total shit, which can often be the problem with interviwers. and it's all alot of pish really at the end of the day, isn't it every one. i'm a big fall fan. see ya mate. see ya mate. yeah, see ya mate.

  • everyone is just going on about longevity, years, age,

    line-ups etc.......but Mark says I've only just started pal!!

  • not a fan of Frank Skinner but he's right: if you get MES then you become obsessive. Over the years the albums with the odd exception just get better and better which is fairly astounding. I dread the day when he packs up as its virtually all I've listened to for the last 25 years! My one concern is that MES changed Frank Skinner's life....rather worrying, and how exactly?