right, i'm ignorant. you r the 1 assuming i haven't tried it. or u can just spout off about the experiential nature of yadayadayada, assuming that no one who HAS tried it could EVER disagree with you right...but yeah sure, i'm the ignorant one.
OK, to the people who actually posted this, i apologize for the callous way which i worded my question. To Dermax, it doesn't really matter what you think. I'm not asking this from a fat kid perspective, but from one of a person who has trained and done what I consider actual sparring in real time, not slowed down as in this video. I still don't see the point in this type of "training" in the martial arts, it seems to completely lack anything but aesthetic value.
i'm just wondering why people look at this as anything more than a dance? I don't get it and I wanna hear yall's perspective on it. I mean, I know joint locks work, but what they were demonstrating in this video only work if you're moving in slow motion. Suffice to say, that is in no way practical. So, how can this be seen as anything but dancing?
You practise slow and over and over again to refine the technique, the timing, the coordination and the breathing. Good Tai Chi masters are fast, read: very fast in a fight. You won't see it coming. I have seen so many people slacking off slow motion movements like tai chi, but when they have to do it themselves, they can't do it well even after years. It is easy to say something doesn't work when you don't know a thing about it.
well, i know something about it, as I am currently training in shaolin kung-fu. I still find there are several flashy moves which are completely useless. Also, i find alot of the moves operate on the premise that you will be incredibly faster than your opponent(you would have to be in order for these moves to be effective IMHO). Also, they discount the opponents strength much of the time.
@diomedes- i`m sure that everybody here enjoys your brilliant showcase off ignorance. after all the point is simple- TRY it for yourself, the answer will come by itself. talking is cheap.
Furthermore, we would like to express our gratitude and respect towards Grandmaster Wang Chieh and Grandmaster Feng Zhiqiang. Thank you for your support.
RIP...
Tianshanwarrior 2 years ago
Hello Mike,
Since you know so many Chinese styles, I have a question for you. Do you know what style Sanda fighters use? Or what they use is not Kung Fu at all.
Thanks.
myclicks 3 years ago
sanda is just a combat sport. It's chinese kickboxing, that is kickboxing with throws.
it has very little to do with TCMA, in fact sanda is as modern as modern wushu...But unlikely wushu, sanda is very good for combat
minustar 3 years ago
where 2 buy?
ayotechnology5050 4 years ago
please email beijingcamp-AT-gmail-com
Rene, will get back to you...
mikemartello
mikemartello 3 years ago
good video, too bad I never heard from you about being able to buy a copy of it
Tianshanwarrior 4 years ago
HUH, Dieter sent you a copy? You didn`t receive it? and the shuia jackets? let me know, mike....
mikemartello 4 years ago
right, i'm ignorant. you r the 1 assuming i haven't tried it. or u can just spout off about the experiential nature of yadayadayada, assuming that no one who HAS tried it could EVER disagree with you right...but yeah sure, i'm the ignorant one.
o0Diomedes0o 4 years ago
weak^^
well fat little couch kid or whatever u are
i dont`t think you would pass more than 5 minutes of training...even if it is just, what was the name you called it, dancing?
lol you would fail^^
keep on playing tekken and keep on with ur empty brain...
best regards
Dermax2309 4 years ago 2
OK, to the people who actually posted this, i apologize for the callous way which i worded my question. To Dermax, it doesn't really matter what you think. I'm not asking this from a fat kid perspective, but from one of a person who has trained and done what I consider actual sparring in real time, not slowed down as in this video. I still don't see the point in this type of "training" in the martial arts, it seems to completely lack anything but aesthetic value.
o0Diomedes0o 4 years ago
i`m not assuming that one who has tried out can disagree- i just answered your question:
"WOW, is this a dancing camp?If not, what exactly is the point..." (etc.)
if you ask like this, you shouldn`t wonder about the answer.if you are really interested, the answer will differ. plain and simple.
bigfatnoisemaker 4 years ago
i'm just wondering why people look at this as anything more than a dance? I don't get it and I wanna hear yall's perspective on it. I mean, I know joint locks work, but what they were demonstrating in this video only work if you're moving in slow motion. Suffice to say, that is in no way practical. So, how can this be seen as anything but dancing?
o0Diomedes0o 4 years ago
You practise slow and over and over again to refine the technique, the timing, the coordination and the breathing. Good Tai Chi masters are fast, read: very fast in a fight. You won't see it coming. I have seen so many people slacking off slow motion movements like tai chi, but when they have to do it themselves, they can't do it well even after years. It is easy to say something doesn't work when you don't know a thing about it.
superbouncykid 3 years ago
well, i know something about it, as I am currently training in shaolin kung-fu. I still find there are several flashy moves which are completely useless. Also, i find alot of the moves operate on the premise that you will be incredibly faster than your opponent(you would have to be in order for these moves to be effective IMHO). Also, they discount the opponents strength much of the time.
o0Diomedes0o 3 years ago
WOW, is this a dancing camp? If not, what exactly is the point in teaching people how to flail their arms around and wristlock people in slow motion?
o0Diomedes0o 4 years ago
moron
jagregoire 4 years ago
moron is the point?
o0Diomedes0o 4 years ago
@diomedes- i`m sure that everybody here enjoys your brilliant showcase off ignorance. after all the point is simple- TRY it for yourself, the answer will come by itself. talking is cheap.
bigfatnoisemaker 4 years ago 3
Furthermore, we would like to express our gratitude and respect towards Grandmaster Wang Chieh and Grandmaster Feng Zhiqiang. Thank you for your support.
Mingfai78 4 years ago 2
Many thanks to all the Beijing Camp instructors and participants for making this event possible!
Special thanks go to
- Master Di Guoyong (Xingyi)
- Master Jia Shusen (Bagua)
- Master Sui Shiguo (Tantui)
- Master Li Zhanhua (Tongbei)
- Mr Stephan Sklenka, student of Master Zhang Xinbin (Tongbei Saber)
- Master Wang Shuping (Taiji Fan)
- Miss Stella Hu Yali, student of Master Jia Shusen (Bagua Deer Horn Knives)
for performing at the Opening Ceremony.
Mingfai78 4 years ago 2
looks like you had some good times! nice.
bigfatnoisemaker 4 years ago 2
It looks like the camp was a huge success. Congrats!
chessman71 4 years ago 2
good video
ceer33 4 years ago 2
Great ... and noone running in the view of the camera ... must have one!
JochenWolf 4 years ago
great clip!
love the music... where did you find it?
ashwix 4 years ago
yes, love it too. where's the music from?
DuShan17 4 years ago 2
Some Music is from Mongolian, China.
I don`t know the names sorry...
mikemartello 4 years ago
I wanna know too
ayotechnology5050 4 years ago
some music is from the soundtrack of HK action movie Ä man called hero", some songs are from a China/Mongolian band called Legend of the Phoenix.
mikemartello 4 years ago