how to make Iron Oxide (rust)

[samsonfellows]

This is so fucking dangerous, with the 4 amps of electricity, water, hydrogen and chlorine gas your just asking for a Darwin award lol

[MotionlessParadox]

ahh 240p we meet again :p

[fogg1231]

Ugggg mine ended up like green goo wat did I do wrong

[unix001]

@fogg1231 its possible that you make have used steel... id recommend that you try a different metal

[hendersonjerry]

ls -l "And chlorine can kiil you", gosh, it looks like your doing this inside your garage.

[epheloobleck]

how long did you leave it running for?

[unix001]

@epheloobleck an hour or two

[epheloobleck]

@unix001 i left it running overnight and got less than half a teaspoon, can you use steel instead of iron?

[unix001]

@epheloobleck no, steel will not work because it has carbon in it so it wont be iron oxide, which is what you want. if its taking for ever i would suggest adding more salt, id say for about every cup of water add a abt 1/8 cup of salt. if you still having problems you may have low amperage. my battery charger in the video is running at 6amps. if you using a DC power supply that designed to charge something. ie a phone or laptop, then your amps are probaby no bigger that 0.8 which could be why.

[epheloobleck]

@unix001 ive got 4 amps and low carbon steel (0.5%) im surprised that even that much makes a difference,

[vnelly3]

the 240p is a lie it's just 40p

[unix001]

@vnelly3 haha sorry about the quality, i used a shity digital camera

[L33THAX0R33]

240p we meet again

[samg8tr1]

dude is that a fucking gatorade bottle you had the water and salt in

[OfficialUtubeUser]

Nice Ford Model T! 1:49

[nightelf4]

thanx this help for my PD lab a lot

[donstacy123]

@BlueBanzai16 hahaha wtf is "hydrigene"

[airborne101st45]

Did you record this with your dick? lol

[unix001]

@airborne101st45 something like that

[kookumba94]

lol funny how he didnt mention not to put a flame near the installment cuz ud blow urself up wif da hydrogen

[unix001]

@kookumba94 eh, the hydrogen comes off at such a slow rate it doesn't have enough time to cumulate for an explosion. if you trap the gas in a balloon or something then yea it would go boom haha.

[xxxrobert123xxx]

this is crazy I have that exact same battery charger in my garage along with a 1927 Model T

[zakaslam1]

mmmm ! very interesting

[thecrowandthehawk]

Mine has grey mixed in with the rust and I left it overnight to oxidize so it should be done. What the fuck do I do now, what is this crap.

[MrNicknack125]

Hi i just tried this out of being bored and i used the exact same method as you and it seemed like it was working at first, the water started to go green then red so i left it for 5 minuits, come back and it was going crazy bubbleing like hell so i switched off the charger and the water turned into i think black gell : S any idea why that hapend ?

[thecrowandthehawk]

@MrNicknack125 are you red and green colorblind?

[BCQD4]

WILL SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME i tried this with regular salt but nothing happened but when i used low sodium salt with the bars (not sure what metal they came from an old boiler) this yellow oil started to form them the whole thing turned green!!!!! and this red and green mushy crap formed at the top ANY HELP WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED

[alari123]

but if i turn the charger of every once in a while ,do the amps get back down?

[unix001]

@alari123 they may go down bc all of the rust particles will settle, but what make the current go up is that the rust particles get suspended in the water and allow the electricity to flow better, thus lowering the resistance and increasing the current

[Davemister]

@unix001 alot easier way to get iron oxide is just burn steel wool then use a magnet to seperate out any iron that didnt burn. works great for thermite!

[ACPD5510]

Does it matter what material the container in which the electrodes sit is composed of?

[unix001]

@ACPD5510 any kind of non-conductive container would work.

[BlackDeath17123]

the electricity separates the salt water creating an acid and a base. opposite of mixing vinegar and baking soda. just use vinegar instead of this complicated stuff.

[unix001]

@BlackDeath17123 What? vinegar is a weak acid and it will electrolyte the water same salt, although salt is a much stronger electrolyte and allows the reaction to happen a lot faster. as far as salt creating an acid and base idk what ur talking about. salt ionizes in water as Na+ anc Cl-, its a solution

[BlackDeath17123]

@unix001 an acid mixed with the counterpart base create a saltwater solution. this releases heat. You end up with a salt and water. hence many types of salt. electrifying this solution (adding energy) separates the salt water solution resulting in 1 part acid 1 part base. I posted this before i saw you directly electrified the nails.

[alajunabini755]

Gonna make me some thermite

[unix001]

@NightFury7100 the camera is just a piece of shit



[randomcam11234]

whats the ratio for the salt solution?

[unix001]

@randomcam11234 doesnt really matter, the more salt the more conductive the water will be.

[Vudo865]

where does the chlorine gas come from i thought you were just using water and iron?

[unix001]

@Vudo865 if you listen during the first 10 seconds of the video i said you have to use a salt and water solution. and if you dont know salt is its made of sodium choride.

[Vudo865]

@unix001 oh sorry i didn't catch that part, thanks

[zakman187]

nice car man

[RobotModel790]

Ah, he's making colloidal iron.

[mmfwclGizmo]

thats rust acid not liquid rust.......

[LuxeXx]

So if I wanted to rust screws for a guitar, would dropping the screws in the jar cause the screws to rust?

[unix001]

@LuxeXx well first you would have to connect the screws to electrodes. and it would actually depend on what the screws are made of, iron, aluminum, stainless steel, steel, or w.e

[LuxeXx]

@unix001 I'm thinking that it probably wouldn't work, as the screws are powdercoated as well. I never thought I'd be on a hunt to find a rusty screw...

[CallOfDoughnuts]

nice cars

[NagaJolokiafied]

nice model T

[drewnickel]

just stick a chrysler in your yard for a few months

[diabeticwaffle1]

@zeller1994 actually there is chlorine because the chloride from the salt Is separated from the sodium...

[RKftw68]

Thermite here we come !!!

Lol jk

Nice car

[tuckerbell247]

what the fuck is that a model T?

[unix001]

@tuckerbell247 yes is it

[tuckerbell247]

@unix001 thats awsome

[zellers1944]

The gases are just oxygen and hydrogen, no chlorine.

[lewisadams42850]

@zellers1944

no as the salt (NaCl) is dissolved, the chloride anion moves to the positive anode and the anode gives an electron to the chloride ion, when 2 chloride ions have got that electron they form a covalent bond forming chlorine gas bubbling out, chlorine is extremely dangerous as of its reducing power, which is why its known as a strong oxidizing agent

[SNIVEROUS]

Actually the hindinburg failed becuz it's exterior panels were coated with paint with the ingredients similer to thermite :)

Source: mythbusters

[zakamooza]

will a phone charger pluged in with the wire conected to the rods will do ?

[unix001]

@zakamooza yes, as long as the output is DC (direct current)

[d4bl4h]

Chlorine GAS is bad for you

[aKaJuGuLaTe]

chlorine can kill you? haha thats news to me. i used to work at a pool and spent time every day in a confined chemical room with both granular and liquid chlorine

[zombiepancakes21]

thanks for this video, I was looking for a faster way to make rust than leaving ion outside, now all I need is some aluminum powder.....

[AnubisMeso]

add aluminum powder and you have THERMITE!!! lol

[AForkSpoon]

i loled when you said it emits hydrogen and cloriegn and cloriegn can kill you.

[sentidocomunve]

@AForkSpoon Cloriegn? That must be a new element.

[AForkSpoon]

@sentidocomunve hey, spelling for me isnt that great.

[El3xar]

the chlorine gas coming off is minimal, you can just as well sniff some from a bottle it's just as a bad.

[allenph79]

Well i have something to add. If you want a purer rust then wait for all the stuff to settle in the bottom for like a day and siphon the water off. after your done add more water and wait for it to settle and start over. I do this like 2-3 times before filtering.

[bummiesstudios2]

WTF is that strange sound !? it's on trough the whole video and it's sound like something is going to explode :S

[unix001]

@bummiesstudios2 idk the camera i used was piece..

[jezza10181]

seems a very roundabout (and dangerous way) of making rust. why dont you just burn steel wool in air?

[ILikeToShootZombies]

can i do this to rust like oh say tin cans? like if i put a tin can in the jar with the nails ?

[unix001]

@ILikeToShootZombies if you wanna do that you would replace one of the pos nail with the tin can

[draconite420]

@ILikeToShootZombies just go to a car junk yard and scrape the rust off the side panels :P

[TheMRWOODIE]

it actually doesnt make chlorine unless the salt has an affect, with i know it doesnt in that way, salt has no molecules even resembling chlorine, same as water. it's oxygen and hydrogen. each come from a different location. i believe oxygen comes from the negative contact and hydrogen from the positive.

[Zyxer22]

@TheMRWOODIE household salt=NaCl. as in, sodium chloride, like chlorine <.<

[Tiktaalikk]

Nice video. And people, stop arguing with him, He seems to know more about it than you do.

[1984metalhead]

why wait until the white hot residue at the end cools off. use it to make a sword :D

[juuzo89]

dude what car is that on the backround and how much is it worth ?! :O

[ultimatemilkyman]

i think its safe to half of the guys watching this are bascially looking how to collect the substances to create thermite for around the house, well this is one down

[anuraganimax]

@ultimatemilkyman amen!!

[rgmcall]

Would This be good for Thermite Isn't This Iron Chloride?

[nickstaal123]

if this is separating the salt and giving off chlorine does that mean that this is making sodium and if so why dident that ignite

[GTAAlexrs]

Dude thanks, never even thought of a charger, been using a 7.5 DC plug lol takes like a night and day

[smithrmichael1997]

Unless you've added to much salt it shouldn't be making chlorine. Only hydrogen and oxygen.

[Slayer9087]

mmmmm electrolysis 

[rbechard]

you know that this doesn't make iron (III) oxide right?? it's making iron (III) chloride..

[madjimms]

@rbechard No, the gas that is released is chlorine gas & hydroxide. It will in fact make iron III oxide.

[c0ldelement]

There wouldnt be enough Chlorine gas to hurt you .. but really its only making Hydrogen and oxygen the chlorine ions should stay in the water for the most part

[c0ldelement]

Does it sound like either his cam is going to blow up or take off????

[mrkanker1]

lol thats what i was thinking, but take off :D

[ohmahgawdfilms]

nice oldie car

[utsports]

thats good job man i may try that thanks for the information and video

[jsmithmilitary]

you want distilled water tap water has chlorine in it!!!!

[TKSVlad]

Good Vid. Thanks for the tip dude.

[gamerguycod]

iron oxide + aluminum powder=thermite!!

styrofoam+gasoline=napalm

[yathatisgood]

Hi there,

Do the iron rods need to be rusty from the start. Thanks for your time.

[splosioninc]

Not Chlorine. hydrogen & Oxygen

[mastermalpass]

@splosioninc But surely if he's making Iron Oxide, then the Oxygen is joining onto the Iron particles, not escaping into the air. The Hydrogen would be coming from the water. As to get the oxygen you'd be taking it from the H20. So the Hydrogen would be a loose gas.

[snrav3r]

may i ask what rust is usefull for

[TheQuillmaster]

@snrav3r pyrotechnics, Thermite.

[mastermalpass]

@snrav3r Mix it with Aluminium powder to make thermite. Thermite burns at super-high temperatures. =P

[BhudhaLovesBudlight]

my rusts turns black from a AA battery. I put the liquid on the peice of paper and dried it. Will it make a large flare/smoke if i burn it?

[rattytatt521]

I hope you had that charger turned off while you scraped that - even 1 amp is enough to kill you directly

[NaClO3]

rust isn't Fe2O3!

[TheQuillmaster]

@NaClO3 Basically, yes it is. Not exactly, but has the same characteristics.

[NaClO3]

@TheQuillmaster scrivo in italiano perchè èla mia lingua!

se uno è un ossido idrato con idrossidi e ossidi di ferro (II) e (III), non potrà avere le stesse carateristiche del ossido di ferro (III) o no?

[TheQuillmaster]

@NaClO3 Sì, alcune caratteristiche potrebbero non essere le stesse, tuttavia la maggior parte persone che lo fanno, lo fanno soprattutto per Termite, nel qual caso la ruggine funzionerà. P. S. Che cosa è con clorato di sodio? ti piace far saltare in aria roba o cosa? (Clorato di sodio è un ossidante comune). E posso capire italiano! : D

[ThrowingItAway]

MMM green chlorine gas

[MadnessIsMySpecial]

Please help me - When I do this, my rust become green/black instead of red. What am i doing wrong? Is it the nails?

Nice vid btw :)

[unix001]

thank you, it could be your nails it seems that they are more of a steel maybe, or they could have a clear laquer on them... i would suggest trying a differnt type of nail

[MadnessIsMySpecial]

Many thanks for the quick reply:) I shall try that

[isilder]

@MadnessIsMySpecial

Its due to the pH ... yours turned basic and made the hydroxide..  for rust, keep it acidic... add some acid ...

[jiantboy830935]

@MadnessIsMySpecial don't worry if its green or other colours. its still iron oxide. what you want to do is just dry it out nicely by heating it in the oven or whatever. it should turn red.

[SuperJonirenicus]

@MadnessIsMySpecial It has layer of copper

[puckhound95]

@MadnessIsMySpecial Are you using table salt? If you are, trying using a different type of salt of use baking soda (thats what I use, it works great!)

[greasemonkey43123]

I have questions such as :

Does this work with steel?

How can I tell Iron from Steel (Not stainless)?

[unix001]

@greasemonkey43123 first off steel is just iron mixed with carbon to make it stronger. steel will work but its not going to be as pure due to the carbon aditive.and you cant really tell the differnence by just looking at it.. your gona have to look at a lable or something

[SuperJonirenicus]

@unix001 you ar estupid carbon is a tupe of element that is lighter than iron so you can just get steel bar and make it into dust and then you can use magnet to get all the iron out

[unix001]

@SuperJonirenicus that wont work because the carbon and iron are conjoined at the atomic level forming steel molecules.

[sandcrab132]

@unix001 There aren't "steel molecules." It's more of a solution than anything. Like CO2 in soda.

[donperry1]

@unix001 Plz tell us what will work then. I need some of this stuff

[jrocboy111]

@unix001 wrong steel is iron and nickle and when u add more nickle it becomes stainless steel

[unix001]

@jrocboy111 actually steel is an alloy that consists mostly of iron and has a carbon content between 0.2% and 2.1% by weight, depending on the grade... and stainless steel alloy with a minimum of 10.5 or 11% chromium content by mass which makes it resistant to oxidation...

[ThrowingItAway]

Steel tends to be shinier and harder, Iron is blackish and rusts far easier

[darthjeff3]

@greasemonkey43123 you should try to use iron (it is called IRON oxide) but steel does contain iron but it isnt as pure so your rust wont be as pure

[aR3DF0Xa]

is that a ford model t? fuckin nice car

[unix001]

@aR3DF0Xa yes it is :)

[kamue96797]

grate vid, but its a misconception that electrolysis (what your doing) produces chlorine gas as you stated. its actually producing hydrogen and oxygen gas and chlorine ions in an aquas solution. chlorine in its natural gaseous form is Cl2. as an ion its just Cl- and not a gas and is not dangerous. extra steps need to be taken to turn the Cl- into Cl2 gas.

[r4Nd0MBr4nD0n]

sweet its working! wtf is that green slime in the water coming from the negative side? im using an old train set dc converter for this btw...

[r4Nd0MBr4nD0n]

This is in the "Anarchists Cookbook" I have 2009 version!

[related2lizzieBORDEN]

Last night, I don't know why, I attached a paperclip to both ends of a battery and left it in water over night. Dismoring I found that rust had formed on the paperclip!

[jesseroybal1]

I'd recommend using a old t-shirt as a filter. Coffee filters get cloged to quick.

[AdamL134]

how much iron oxide did this end up making ?

[TheBombBros]

are you using this red iron oxide for rocket candy? thats what i use it for.

[freakin1random]

this is like watching walwruses giving birth.....

[sparky3489]

Electrolysis produces oxygen and hydrogen.

[crapkillerz]

is that a fucking model T in your garage? haha

[laprostitch]

im no expert but i like makeing firepaper and the fist time i made some i let it dry outside for a night and in the morning it was dry but i found out that if you use a hair dryer on hot for like 2mins then on cool for 2mins its the same as if i left it outside to dry

[adjuvants12780]

wats that car in the garage?

[vinee94yo]

So wait, when you burn that hydrogen you get sulphuric acid?

[unix001]

haha no, when you burn hydrogen you get water... the only thing im using is water and salt, which break down to, oxygen, hydrogen, chlorine, and sodium. but im pretty sure the salt is being broken down because its not concentrated enough

[p3rs0n42]

you can't burn hydrogen...

what you're thinking of is burning fuels or hydrocarbons

you get CO2 and water (mineral salts too if it's not a pure hydrocarbon)

[puckhound95]

Uh, FYI, YOU CAN BURN HYDROGEN!!! It is one of the most flammable gases. How do you think the Hindenburg caught fire and blew up? IT WAS FILLED WITH HYDROGEN!!!

[p3rs0n42]

i know... I don't actually have ANY idea why i confused helium and hydrogen, yet got hydrogen's properties right... o.O

haha, I've been spending so long working on Haloalkanes, I've forgotten the base properties of pure hydrocarbons and their elements

my mistake =/

[puckhound95]

No Problem man, I could make the same mistake! LOL!!! But you still dont want to get helium and HYDROGEN mixed up!!! LOL!!!

[p3rs0n42]

normally I don;t... but it was 4am when I wrote that comment, so is it understandable? hehe

[puckhound95]

Yeah totally.

[p3rs0n42]

cool =]

wondering, have yout taken chemistry for any degrees or qualifications, or is it just what you know? obviously hydrogen burns like fuck but.. xD

[puckhound95]

Well, Im only 14 so I dont think so! LOL!!! I am just pretty smart for my age i guess. I also know this cause I made a hydrogen generator myself using the process of electrolysis like the guy in the vid is doing. LOL!!! Check out some of my vids!!!

[ThrowingItAway]

@puckhound95 Not to mention it was coated in thermite

[countryace]

@puckhound95 it  als had flamible materials. i believe that thermite is one of them on there. or something that is quick to burn. mythbusters did it

[SuperJonirenicus]

@puckhound95 you are looser hudrogen isnot the most flammable gas it is most dangeres gas it bursn at realy high temp!!! you suke

[puckhound95]

@SuperJonirenicus Okay for starters, I said "one of the most flammable gases". Also, learn to spell if your going to try and hate.

[ILikeToShootZombies]

@puckhound95 it was shot down by a home made rocket by pendragon smart one >.>

[denvera1g1]

@puckhound95 the hindenburg didnt burn because it used hydrogen it burned because of mechanical failure, thats like saying space shuttle columbia exploded because it had a hydrogen tank, it exploded because if a leak in one of the seals on the solid rocket motors

[puckhound95]

@denvera1g1 I understand that, I should have worded my comment right. What I meant was that the reason it burn and exploded so energetically was because it was filled with hydrogen, I didn't mean that the hydrogen caused it.

[denvera1g1]

@puckhound95 ya and of all the flames you see on the hindenburg footage none of it is actually hydrogen, when hydrogen burns it is nearly invisible and when is any light it cannot be seen without thermal cameras

[motorhead110]

hydrogen does burn, it is highly flammable, how about hindeburg and hrdrogen cars etc. i even remember doing it in experiments at school.

[p3rs0n42]

I know, I already explained that at 4am, when i was trolling youtube, I confused Helium and Hydrogen.

lol

I know full well hydrogen can burn, and I'm learning how it bonded with halogens can be used through electrophillic substitution to turn a standard alkene into a halo-alkane.

And the application of hydrogen in all hydrocarbons = burnable

[soapandwafflesrule]

chemistry is fun!

[AlphaJulietBravo1]

hydrogen chloride?

[unix001]

yea, hydrogen is released, as far as chlorine im not so sure, but better safe than sorry

[howejacob]

hydrocloric acid?

[MrSkullbomb]

electrolysis..nice..

[Steven42192]

dude nice car

[unix001]

thanks!

[Everfalling]

i donno if this was already mentioned in the comments but if you can make iron oxide very easily buy simply taking pads of fine steel wool land lighting them on fire. the fire rapidly oxidizes the iron and you're left with a iron oxide dust.

[localbroadcast]

i did this when i was a kid... i was tryin to make thermite... now i realize you can just order iron oxide off the internet for very cheap!

[JAK32010]

I used two steel bolts with a 6V large lantern battery with copper wires in water with some salt (not measured just put some salt in) and produce some iron oxide but also greenish blue solution on the bottom (I'm guessing something to do with the copper wires) and also a black substance. Can anyone tell me why this greenish copper looking solution is and if it effects the iron oxide produced and possible what the blackish stuff is?

[unix001]

the black is gona be the iron, when you try it out it should change color, the blue/green is def. the copper try not to let the copper touch the solution

i get this green black stuff at the bottom ?? can anyone help plz