20 years ago Japan was originally considered to make and manage the Chinese high speed train system. Too bad the Chinese were too obsessed with the war past that they declined the Japanese offer.
According to interview of survived victims, most dead bodies which have already been found were dug out by the bereaved families, instead of rescue team... I guess that there are still victims in the buried site...
But Airbus and Boeing do not bury the wreckage so soon after the accident. Normally they take all of the wreckage they can find to a warehouse and spend years putting it together to see what went wrong.
This dosen't make any sense to bury the wrecked train cars because to have a good investigation, you have to take the evidence (the train cars) and look at how the crash happened, not bury it.
the people of china needs to overthrow their corrupt government. it's messed up how the government there picks national prestige over the safety of their citizens.
burying the evidence is not gong to make things better...
a hand full of people controlling the fate of 19% of the worlds population...
Be careful of things made in china, they dont have the technology like Japan or Germany and even though they want to COPY the best out there. Besides that the Government is too dumb to deal with that. I feel sorry for the family that lost their love ones.
@ppllaayybb00yy i feel what you said is ashamed too, first of all, it's been many hours since the accident, and they really didn't find any more bodies or even life in the train. I don't think it is hard to realize there are no bodies left around the areas that the train fell, and inside the train. Ofcoz the train needs to be reposition for clearing and for further seeing if there's "anyone" under it. I felt that you people are not even using your brain before talking.
@Gin520 have you followed any other news? They find a girl alive after they stopped serching bodies,and it's been 20 hours after the accident. The government said the living girl is a miracle to them. and The reailway department let other bullet trains go again before they found the reason why the accident happened. do u think they used their brains? believed it or not,I don't believe it indeed.
@ppllaayybb00yy i heard that news, and indeed i do agree that they rush a little too early to open the rail line again...but i won't be surprised that they found a girl after they "stop searching". that just only means the main focus and the search team will stop as they didn't expect that there would be much that would survived. but search continues as they start removing. But for sure, the person in charge is not experienced in search and rescue.
@Gin520 if there is a girl still alive, I think there should be more people could be saved. And I saw several victims are dead without a whole body, some lost their heads and some lost their arms or legs. I dropped my tears to see those pics who crying for their families died from this accident, or maybe died from this wrong rescue way, that's why I feel ashamed for the government.
@ppllaayybb00yy who wouldn't be sad seeing tragedy like this? please don't act like u are the only one who's sad. All i know is that no matter how wrong the rescue process is, it's something that had been done before in many countries, including USA the country u live in. When things don't come out the way we want, we will start saying it's wrong or this is not how it should be. Either it's wrong or it shouldn't be this way, what's done is done, they just have to learn from mistakes to improve
@Gin520 oh really? I just know the same accident happened in Germany, and the government let all railway stopped, and before they found the reason, they just re-open some of the trains, and let them go half of the speed. see what happend in China? what's the rush for? we have other traffic ways in China, we have buses, we have plane, why they rush to open the bullet train before they found the reason?
@ppllaayybb00yy like u said, before they found out what happend they only opened some, so how do u know that railway corp and government didn't find out the basic cause? like i said, nothing wrong with the rail track, so they reopen the line, and investigate the trains. from looking at ur profile pic, i can see that u dislike the leader of China, or probably dislike China. it's very normal for u to believe things are bad there before knowing everything.
@Gin520 I am not acting as sorry for those victims, I am sad about the government, because during the last year, more than 8 governers were put in prison because of they are stealing money and put it in their own porcket. is there any reason associatied with the accident? they just value the money, more than the people's lives
@ppllaayybb00yy i won't argue with u about corrupted governors, since i also agree at the same point, but this happens everywhere...and u can't expect corruption can be solve easily...even in the US, and other big countries, corruptions are still happening, what's worst is that, their corruption is much more hidden than the Chinese ones. I'm as mad as u, but we can't give judgment until the real story has been dig out by someone.
@Gin520 I am from China and I know this happend a lot in my own hometowm, I am angry, because we pay money to them, we pay the tax, we spend tens of billions to build the railway system, and it just collapsed because of train and thundering?
@ppllaayybb00yy Europe and US build planes and shuttles, they still crash, and they still collapsed due to many little things.Or did u get brain wash in US? This sort of things happens everywhere, no matter how many tens of billions u spend to build this stuff, or how much tax u had paid. Every year, there's European planes crashing, US shuttle crashed at least 3 times. even though they are well developed in modern time, this sort of accident still happens. So what are u going to say about them?
@Gin520 oh really? this things happend everywhere? in Japan too? I know in Japan, they have bullet train for nearly 50 years, and during this 50 years, they only have 2 accidents, due to the earthquake, and no people died in these two crashes.
@Gin520 yep ,I agree with that, crashes happend every country. but have you seen any countries burry the bullet train just a few hours after the accident? any country burried the plane after they crashed? what were they hiding for?
@ppllaayybb00yy hey....i'm not trying to disagree with u here...i agree with what u know and what u think...but i'm just trying to say don't hate ur country, u can be mad at our Chinese government or the railway for corruptions and things that was done in a wrong way. i'm also mad at what they do sometimes, but how many times can we be mad at them, when the whole world is doing wrong or unethical things all the time? I'm not supporting them, but i'm also not against them.
@Gin520 hey ,I am not hating my country, pls don't misunder my country with my country's government. I love my country and I treat her as my mother, but the government or the “Chinese Communist Chinese community Party” not equals to my country China. ok? I dislike the CCP or the govenrment doesn't mean I dislike my own country? understand?
@ppllaayybb00yy The things u listed there...maybe u should ask the dead Deng Xiaoping why all this is happening... Thanks to him, a lot of ppl in China can become wealthy, and also allowed ppl like ur family to move out of China to study. but at the same time, China became more corrupted, business man in China are corrupted one way or the other.
@Gin520 there's a lot u need to know about the world and the country u currently live in, before judging the CCP. There's no doubt China as whole is improving, but ofcoz, at the sametime some stuff will downgrade too. That's how things is, u can't hate them when this is a natural thing happening in any kind of development.
@ppllaayybb00yy there are times things should be done differently, instead of accusing others for hiding, why not ask them to investigate more, even if u have to protest or whatever. Don't just accuse. Things can sometimes turns out better if we approach it differently. Accuse lesser, and ask more, or give more suggestions for improvements. This is what Democracy is about, and if ppl don't understand this, there's always corruptions, even within the citizens.
@Gin520 I have a friend, and his father is working at the railway department of China, and he tells all his family members not to take the bullet train because he knows exactlly the train is not safe enough, because half of the money they spend on maintaing the railway was stolen by the governer. I dont know other countries will do the same or not, because I just came to US for only 3 years
@ppllaayybb00yy lol...i don't think we need ur frd to work in there to know there's corruption when building the rail track, in fact, there's always corruption which the public don't know. I can tell u i have relatives working for the police, government, military, and railway of China...so what? what u said is just common stuff, not even convincing at all. like u said, u only moved to US for 3 years, how much do u actually know about the world. Google don't always tell u everything u know?
@ppllaayybb00yy do u even know the world history enough? the 1st world war, 2nd world war, how US became US, how China had helped other countries, or why there's so much corruption within China, and when it started... There's a lot of things that outsiders don't know, there's also a lot of things that insiders don't know. So don't talk as if u already know what u know is the truth. I came from Hongkong, i'm a Chinese too, i got lots of relatives in China, and i go back a lot too.
@Gin520 sorry I was not major in history, I studied since in my college, but do you know the politics? yes China helped a lot of other countries, but why not help it's own people? you said you always go back to China, then next time you go there, you just find a people in the street, and ask him or her do they own a single house? how much they spend on that? and what's their salary？ how much they spend on the living cost per month, how much they can save from their salary?
@ppllaayybb00yy so u think China is not helping their own ppl...then do u know US isn't really helping their own ppl too? I major in Communication, and we look at a lot of issues related to politics, history, technologies, and many other things. And instead of asking ppl on the street, go look around all the streets in US, how many are either sleeping on the street or live in a corrupted community. And look at how often ppl get bullied, and assulted in US.
@ppllaayybb00yy U said u came from China, and i assume ur family is quite wealthy? do u know how many ppl in Canada or US accuse of ppl like ur family have stolen money in China to become wealthy, to come to America to live and buy houses? But the fact is, not every mainlanders from China is like that, but they still generalize u guys for being corrupted. Including those from Hong Kong. So what u are saying, is basically like what these ppl are saying about mainlanders like u and ur family
@Gin520 and you said you came from hongkong, I bet you can read Chinese, here is a funny thing: 最近，国家某部公布了一项统计数据，告诉人们：你要不是三大式人物（大款，大官，大腕）而想在北京买套100平方米总价300万的房，社会阶层所付出的代价请看：
@ppllaayybb00yy just to let u know, Japan did have railway accidents which killed passengers too, human errors or machine errors is not what really matters. Japan had the safest system for their railway, but still have accident. u can check the 2005 accident in Japan
@ppllaayybb00yy u hate CCP becuz there are things that they did which u don't like. Assume it wasn't the CCP, i can tell u, they will still do things that many ppl don't like. So many ppl like democracy, look at US, look at Canada where i live, we have a lot of serious problems too, not just China. We are not communist here, and the communist party in America is weak. And what do we see? We still have lots of corruptions, lots of racist behavior, lots of unreasonable things done by the govn't
@ppllaayybb00yy last things i want to say, nothing is perfect. No government is perfect. if u don't like it, study hard and change the bad things from within. complaining and accusing things that are not yet proven won't help the country or the ppl to live a better life.
@ppllaayybb00yy we all know China is still not well develop in many things yet, that means it is expected that there will be mistakes like this, and still needs a lot of improvement and adjustments. Do u think that other big countries like US never gone through such state? It happened already, u can either suggest the govn't or the railway corp how they can improve, or just sit at home. Don't just watch a news and believe in things without fully knowing everything yet.
@ppllaayybb00yy in addition, if they can open the line again, that means there's nothing wrong with the rail track itself, then that only means it's the trains problem, communication problem, the train operator's problem...that is something that they have to investigate outside the track. And i think they used their brain more than u did at least.
@ppllaayybb00yy Indeed, the railway corp will be responsible for this accident, and that even if they used excuses to cover up the main cause, it is natural for them to do it; although it is not an ethical thing to do. But if we look at any other big transportation corp, same things goes for them if an accident happens, they will try to minimize the public opinions on them by making up excuses that they believe will explain as much of the accident as possible, while still can protect themselve.
@ppllaayybb00yy all those people who got interview in this video, were only watching from far distance, and they expect they have seen it all. Do u really think they saw everything that the government or the railway company had done before removing the trains and opening the line again? Media has a limitation to how much they can tell us, and it can sometimes mislead viewers either on purpose or with no intention.
@ppllaayybb00yy Either way, news is for us to know what happened, hardly enough information about the inside stuff, that's why there are media that make things up or exaggerate things to attract more viewers, and naturally this dumbass who view this media will believe everything they said without evidence of prove. Like it or not, how things are done in China, also happens a lot in western countries....don't make a big deal out of it, if u care so much, think how u can help those families.
As a Chinese i'm so SHAMEFUL for the authorities and the government, it's tragedy when face to the authorities, that every single life of the ordinary people means nothing.
@doublecheat As a Chinese i feel shamed to see other Chinese as dumb as you. Tragedy happens anywhere, including the so called boss country (the USA). There's always time when the governments do something wrong, and do something right. Just because this time they might not seem to be doing it properly, doesn't mean they are all that bad. When you look at problems, be rational, and stand on a neutral position. Don't get mislead so easily by what others say and what the media show you.
@Gin520 Your attitude is exactly same as one of my friend (when he was in US), I still stand by him about the ideas of media control people's mind and negative of consumerism, but about you, anyway, you are the most INTELLIGENT guy I've met, and I'm so glad you and your family weren't on that train, never see Chinese folks news, never find this video is from 凤凰卫视 but when you open it , it has been deleted. I‘m so glad you don't known the phrase"it's a miracle' 愿你在加拿大一切安好不过也希望你能回国生活
@doublecheat sounds like u know me and my family a lot. We can make all the assumptions we want, but until we have seen all sides to the matter, what people say are just opinions. I agree that clearing the site so early isn't a good thing, there could be more to investigate, but clearing it early doesn't mean they are trying to hide something.
@Gin520 The person in charge of it could be lacking experience, which brought him to making such a choice. Or they really might be hiding something...or there really is nothing left to check out, and no human alive left for them to search for, besides searching for dead bodies. And i'm sorry, miracle don't exist in my dictionary, good things don't just randomly come, you have to do something to get it. And I am going back to live.
@Gin520 If you really think life in Canada is better than in China, you are wrong, a lot of things might seem to be better, but in fact there are other things that China are much better than Canada. You think China censored a lot right? i agree, but Canada censored a lot too, in fact, a lot of propaganda. Although not as much as in US, it is still enough to bring hatred to people to dislike Chinese and China.
@Gin520 and I do care if China did something wrong, but what I care more is people of China, and people who came from China, including people from Hong Kong should stand for their own country, do things that can help change the country. Not with all those shit talk, and protests. I'm glad ur frd lived in US and learned that Media can be misleading. u are lucky that u are living in China, because Chinese government is not as shitty as the Canadian or US government is...
@JapanIncorporated It's not that they suck at copying the hardware, it's the operators don't give a crap about safety and human lives.
The Japanese bullet trains restrict their top speeds because going any faster would be unsafe. The Chinese trains just went flat out on day one, even though they have nowhere near the amount of experience Japanese operators have.
20 years ago Japan was originally considered to make and manage the Chinese high speed train system. Too bad the Chinese were too obsessed with the war past that they declined the Japanese offer.
DJmixmastermicro 6 months ago
Dear China I will never ride your high speed trains.
runningshoe1000 6 months ago
woot ~ quick to bury their national shame ~ signs China..... when will you learn ? =_+
Noizemaze4 7 months ago
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According to interview of survived victims, most dead bodies which have already been found were dug out by the bereaved families, instead of rescue team... I guess that there are still victims in the buried site...
pomraktick 7 months ago
Train has run billion miles and carry 100 mn people, , small case, Airbus and Boing jet always has accident too.
fdoca 7 months ago
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But Airbus and Boeing do not bury the wreckage so soon after the accident. Normally they take all of the wreckage they can find to a warehouse and spend years putting it together to see what went wrong.
Knepperify1 6 months ago
Cover up! The CCP treats it's people like little kids.
moonrat79 7 months ago
This dosen't make any sense to bury the wrecked train cars because to have a good investigation, you have to take the evidence (the train cars) and look at how the crash happened, not bury it.
Trainmaster189 7 months ago
perhaps engineering at low costs? It's like a mini BP incident
accounting2021 7 months ago
It's called the People's Republic of China but the peoplehave no say in how it's run.
Jinmudonno 7 months ago
the people of china needs to overthrow their corrupt government. it's messed up how the government there picks national prestige over the safety of their citizens.
burying the evidence is not gong to make things better...
a hand full of people controlling the fate of 19% of the worlds population...
JapanIncorporated 7 months ago
this reminds me of 9/11...........
saschanv 7 months ago
Gin520 is both traitor of China and Canada
kksiskks 7 months ago
Be careful of things made in china, they dont have the technology like Japan or Germany and even though they want to COPY the best out there. Besides that the Government is too dumb to deal with that. I feel sorry for the family that lost their love ones.
edbatalhao 7 months ago
Fucking Chinese government!!!!
Maximus0427 7 months ago
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they tried to bury train with alive people fucking shit
dhksrksalem 7 months ago
As a Chinese, I really feel ashamed, rest in peace to all the victims...
ppllaayybb00yy 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy i feel what you said is ashamed too, first of all, it's been many hours since the accident, and they really didn't find any more bodies or even life in the train. I don't think it is hard to realize there are no bodies left around the areas that the train fell, and inside the train. Ofcoz the train needs to be reposition for clearing and for further seeing if there's "anyone" under it. I felt that you people are not even using your brain before talking.
Gin520 7 months ago
@Gin520 have you followed any other news? They find a girl alive after they stopped serching bodies,and it's been 20 hours after the accident. The government said the living girl is a miracle to them. and The reailway department let other bullet trains go again before they found the reason why the accident happened. do u think they used their brains? believed it or not,I don't believe it indeed.
ppllaayybb00yy 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy i heard that news, and indeed i do agree that they rush a little too early to open the rail line again...but i won't be surprised that they found a girl after they "stop searching". that just only means the main focus and the search team will stop as they didn't expect that there would be much that would survived. but search continues as they start removing. But for sure, the person in charge is not experienced in search and rescue.
Gin520 7 months ago
@Gin520 if there is a girl still alive, I think there should be more people could be saved. And I saw several victims are dead without a whole body, some lost their heads and some lost their arms or legs. I dropped my tears to see those pics who crying for their families died from this accident, or maybe died from this wrong rescue way, that's why I feel ashamed for the government.
ppllaayybb00yy 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy who wouldn't be sad seeing tragedy like this? please don't act like u are the only one who's sad. All i know is that no matter how wrong the rescue process is, it's something that had been done before in many countries, including USA the country u live in. When things don't come out the way we want, we will start saying it's wrong or this is not how it should be. Either it's wrong or it shouldn't be this way, what's done is done, they just have to learn from mistakes to improve
Gin520 7 months ago
@Gin520 oh really? I just know the same accident happened in Germany, and the government let all railway stopped, and before they found the reason, they just re-open some of the trains, and let them go half of the speed. see what happend in China? what's the rush for? we have other traffic ways in China, we have buses, we have plane, why they rush to open the bullet train before they found the reason?
ppllaayybb00yy 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy like u said, before they found out what happend they only opened some, so how do u know that railway corp and government didn't find out the basic cause? like i said, nothing wrong with the rail track, so they reopen the line, and investigate the trains. from looking at ur profile pic, i can see that u dislike the leader of China, or probably dislike China. it's very normal for u to believe things are bad there before knowing everything.
Gin520 7 months ago
@Gin520 I am not acting as sorry for those victims, I am sad about the government, because during the last year, more than 8 governers were put in prison because of they are stealing money and put it in their own porcket. is there any reason associatied with the accident? they just value the money, more than the people's lives
ppllaayybb00yy 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy i won't argue with u about corrupted governors, since i also agree at the same point, but this happens everywhere...and u can't expect corruption can be solve easily...even in the US, and other big countries, corruptions are still happening, what's worst is that, their corruption is much more hidden than the Chinese ones. I'm as mad as u, but we can't give judgment until the real story has been dig out by someone.
Gin520 7 months ago
@Gin520 I am from China and I know this happend a lot in my own hometowm, I am angry, because we pay money to them, we pay the tax, we spend tens of billions to build the railway system, and it just collapsed because of train and thundering?
ppllaayybb00yy 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy Europe and US build planes and shuttles, they still crash, and they still collapsed due to many little things.Or did u get brain wash in US? This sort of things happens everywhere, no matter how many tens of billions u spend to build this stuff, or how much tax u had paid. Every year, there's European planes crashing, US shuttle crashed at least 3 times. even though they are well developed in modern time, this sort of accident still happens. So what are u going to say about them?
Gin520 7 months ago
@Gin520 oh really? this things happend everywhere? in Japan too? I know in Japan, they have bullet train for nearly 50 years, and during this 50 years, they only have 2 accidents, due to the earthquake, and no people died in these two crashes.
ppllaayybb00yy 7 months ago
@Gin520 yep ,I agree with that, crashes happend every country. but have you seen any countries burry the bullet train just a few hours after the accident? any country burried the plane after they crashed? what were they hiding for?
ppllaayybb00yy 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy hey....i'm not trying to disagree with u here...i agree with what u know and what u think...but i'm just trying to say don't hate ur country, u can be mad at our Chinese government or the railway for corruptions and things that was done in a wrong way. i'm also mad at what they do sometimes, but how many times can we be mad at them, when the whole world is doing wrong or unethical things all the time? I'm not supporting them, but i'm also not against them.
Gin520 7 months ago
@Gin520 hey ,I am not hating my country, pls don't misunder my country with my country's government. I love my country and I treat her as my mother, but the government or the “Chinese Communist Chinese community Party” not equals to my country China. ok? I dislike the CCP or the govenrment doesn't mean I dislike my own country? understand?
ppllaayybb00yy 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy The things u listed there...maybe u should ask the dead Deng Xiaoping why all this is happening... Thanks to him, a lot of ppl in China can become wealthy, and also allowed ppl like ur family to move out of China to study. but at the same time, China became more corrupted, business man in China are corrupted one way or the other.
Gin520 7 months ago
@Gin520 there's a lot u need to know about the world and the country u currently live in, before judging the CCP. There's no doubt China as whole is improving, but ofcoz, at the sametime some stuff will downgrade too. That's how things is, u can't hate them when this is a natural thing happening in any kind of development.
Gin520 7 months ago
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@Gin520
"here's a lot u need to know about the world and the country u currently live in, before judging the CCP."
I reject your premise.
Someone can make a valid criticism of China regardless and you need to accept that people will do this.
Knepperify1 6 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy there are times things should be done differently, instead of accusing others for hiding, why not ask them to investigate more, even if u have to protest or whatever. Don't just accuse. Things can sometimes turns out better if we approach it differently. Accuse lesser, and ask more, or give more suggestions for improvements. This is what Democracy is about, and if ppl don't understand this, there's always corruptions, even within the citizens.
Gin520 7 months ago
@Gin520 I have a friend, and his father is working at the railway department of China, and he tells all his family members not to take the bullet train because he knows exactlly the train is not safe enough, because half of the money they spend on maintaing the railway was stolen by the governer. I dont know other countries will do the same or not, because I just came to US for only 3 years
ppllaayybb00yy 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy lol...i don't think we need ur frd to work in there to know there's corruption when building the rail track, in fact, there's always corruption which the public don't know. I can tell u i have relatives working for the police, government, military, and railway of China...so what? what u said is just common stuff, not even convincing at all. like u said, u only moved to US for 3 years, how much do u actually know about the world. Google don't always tell u everything u know?
Gin520 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy do u even know the world history enough? the 1st world war, 2nd world war, how US became US, how China had helped other countries, or why there's so much corruption within China, and when it started... There's a lot of things that outsiders don't know, there's also a lot of things that insiders don't know. So don't talk as if u already know what u know is the truth. I came from Hongkong, i'm a Chinese too, i got lots of relatives in China, and i go back a lot too.
Gin520 7 months ago
@Gin520 sorry I was not major in history, I studied since in my college, but do you know the politics? yes China helped a lot of other countries, but why not help it's own people? you said you always go back to China, then next time you go there, you just find a people in the street, and ask him or her do they own a single house? how much they spend on that? and what's their salary？ how much they spend on the living cost per month, how much they can save from their salary?
ppllaayybb00yy 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy so u think China is not helping their own ppl...then do u know US isn't really helping their own ppl too? I major in Communication, and we look at a lot of issues related to politics, history, technologies, and many other things. And instead of asking ppl on the street, go look around all the streets in US, how many are either sleeping on the street or live in a corrupted community. And look at how often ppl get bullied, and assulted in US.
Gin520 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy U said u came from China, and i assume ur family is quite wealthy? do u know how many ppl in Canada or US accuse of ppl like ur family have stolen money in China to become wealthy, to come to America to live and buy houses? But the fact is, not every mainlanders from China is like that, but they still generalize u guys for being corrupted. Including those from Hong Kong. So what u are saying, is basically like what these ppl are saying about mainlanders like u and ur family
Gin520 7 months ago
@Gin520 and you said you came from hongkong, I bet you can read Chinese, here is a funny thing: 最近，国家某部公布了一项统计数据，告诉人们：你要不是三大式人物（大款，大官，大腕）而想在北京买套100平方米总价300万的房，社会阶层所付出的代价请看：
1：种三亩地每亩纯收入400元的话要从唐朝开始至今才能凑齐（还不能有灾年）
2：工人：每月工资1500元需从鸦片战争上班至今（双休日不能休）
3：白领：年薪6万，需从1960年上班就拿这么多钱至今不吃不喝（取消法定假日）
4：抢劫犯：连续作案2500次（必须事主是白领）约30年。
5：妓女：连续接客10000次，以每天都接一次客，需备战10000天，从18岁起按此频率接客到46岁（中间还不能来例假)
以上还不算装修、家具、家电等等费
ppllaayybb00yy 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy just to let u know, Japan did have railway accidents which killed passengers too, human errors or machine errors is not what really matters. Japan had the safest system for their railway, but still have accident. u can check the 2005 accident in Japan
Gin520 7 months ago
@Gin520 and my last words is: I love my country, but I hate the govenrment and the CCP, that's my point.
ppllaayybb00yy 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy u hate CCP becuz there are things that they did which u don't like. Assume it wasn't the CCP, i can tell u, they will still do things that many ppl don't like. So many ppl like democracy, look at US, look at Canada where i live, we have a lot of serious problems too, not just China. We are not communist here, and the communist party in America is weak. And what do we see? We still have lots of corruptions, lots of racist behavior, lots of unreasonable things done by the govn't
Gin520 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy last things i want to say, nothing is perfect. No government is perfect. if u don't like it, study hard and change the bad things from within. complaining and accusing things that are not yet proven won't help the country or the ppl to live a better life.
Gin520 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy we all know China is still not well develop in many things yet, that means it is expected that there will be mistakes like this, and still needs a lot of improvement and adjustments. Do u think that other big countries like US never gone through such state? It happened already, u can either suggest the govn't or the railway corp how they can improve, or just sit at home. Don't just watch a news and believe in things without fully knowing everything yet.
Gin520 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy in addition, if they can open the line again, that means there's nothing wrong with the rail track itself, then that only means it's the trains problem, communication problem, the train operator's problem...that is something that they have to investigate outside the track. And i think they used their brain more than u did at least.
Gin520 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy Indeed, the railway corp will be responsible for this accident, and that even if they used excuses to cover up the main cause, it is natural for them to do it; although it is not an ethical thing to do. But if we look at any other big transportation corp, same things goes for them if an accident happens, they will try to minimize the public opinions on them by making up excuses that they believe will explain as much of the accident as possible, while still can protect themselve.
Gin520 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy all those people who got interview in this video, were only watching from far distance, and they expect they have seen it all. Do u really think they saw everything that the government or the railway company had done before removing the trains and opening the line again? Media has a limitation to how much they can tell us, and it can sometimes mislead viewers either on purpose or with no intention.
Gin520 7 months ago
@ppllaayybb00yy Either way, news is for us to know what happened, hardly enough information about the inside stuff, that's why there are media that make things up or exaggerate things to attract more viewers, and naturally this dumbass who view this media will believe everything they said without evidence of prove. Like it or not, how things are done in China, also happens a lot in western countries....don't make a big deal out of it, if u care so much, think how u can help those families.
Gin520 7 months ago
This is common in China. They don't care and they would just buried everything. R. I. P. to all those victims.
ykom29 7 months ago
@ykom29 lol, you seriously think they were buried just because the news media said so? Are you seriously that dumb?
Gin520 7 months ago
As a Chinese i'm so SHAMEFUL for the authorities and the government, it's tragedy when face to the authorities, that every single life of the ordinary people means nothing.
doublecheat 7 months ago
@doublecheat As a Chinese i feel shamed to see other Chinese as dumb as you. Tragedy happens anywhere, including the so called boss country (the USA). There's always time when the governments do something wrong, and do something right. Just because this time they might not seem to be doing it properly, doesn't mean they are all that bad. When you look at problems, be rational, and stand on a neutral position. Don't get mislead so easily by what others say and what the media show you.
Gin520 7 months ago
@Gin520 Your attitude is exactly same as one of my friend (when he was in US), I still stand by him about the ideas of media control people's mind and negative of consumerism, but about you, anyway, you are the most INTELLIGENT guy I've met, and I'm so glad you and your family weren't on that train, never see Chinese folks news, never find this video is from 凤凰卫视 but when you open it , it has been deleted. I‘m so glad you don't known the phrase"it's a miracle' 愿你在加拿大一切安好不过也希望你能回国生活
若五毛 当我没说
doublecheat 7 months ago
@doublecheat sounds like u know me and my family a lot. We can make all the assumptions we want, but until we have seen all sides to the matter, what people say are just opinions. I agree that clearing the site so early isn't a good thing, there could be more to investigate, but clearing it early doesn't mean they are trying to hide something.
Gin520 7 months ago
@Gin520 The person in charge of it could be lacking experience, which brought him to making such a choice. Or they really might be hiding something...or there really is nothing left to check out, and no human alive left for them to search for, besides searching for dead bodies. And i'm sorry, miracle don't exist in my dictionary, good things don't just randomly come, you have to do something to get it. And I am going back to live.
Gin520 7 months ago
@Gin520 If you really think life in Canada is better than in China, you are wrong, a lot of things might seem to be better, but in fact there are other things that China are much better than Canada. You think China censored a lot right? i agree, but Canada censored a lot too, in fact, a lot of propaganda. Although not as much as in US, it is still enough to bring hatred to people to dislike Chinese and China.
Gin520 7 months ago
@Gin520 and I do care if China did something wrong, but what I care more is people of China, and people who came from China, including people from Hong Kong should stand for their own country, do things that can help change the country. Not with all those shit talk, and protests. I'm glad ur frd lived in US and learned that Media can be misleading. u are lucky that u are living in China, because Chinese government is not as shitty as the Canadian or US government is...
Gin520 7 months ago
It seems Chinese authority enthusiastically believes that new trains "grow" from the soil if they bury the wrecked ones.
ErnstThomasH 7 months ago
How many unknown dead bodies were buried with wrecked train?
What a pity...
wholelottajam 7 months ago
Unbelievable!! The authorities don't want to learn from the accident in order to avoid it happening again! Stupid judgement!!
romujpn 7 months ago
If a Chinese train wreck is buried, the incident disappears and fault never occurred.
tthibedeau1 7 months ago
Great China bullet trains are very fast.
Their technologies are the top of the world.
The speed of concealing is also fast and the top of the world.
friction222 7 months ago 12
But at least they build great walls.
alanbooker 7 months ago
Made in China buried in China
bearwithbeerisnofear 7 months ago 2
@bearwithbeerisnofear I thought it was Made in China buried in America's landfill.
Mutleytech 3 months ago
Typical. I guess it just didn't happen.
TheJoshsam 7 months ago
and Obama was thinking about building CHinese made bullet trains in the us...
They try and copy japans trains but fail hard.
since 1964 they have been running in japan and not 1 major accident. and only 1 derailment with no injuries, due to a earthquake.
JapanIncorporated 7 months ago
@JapanIncorporated It's not that they suck at copying the hardware, it's the operators don't give a crap about safety and human lives.
The Japanese bullet trains restrict their top speeds because going any faster would be unsafe. The Chinese trains just went flat out on day one, even though they have nowhere near the amount of experience Japanese operators have.
903IDFOLEY 7 months ago
made in china.....lol
goodomen1985 7 months ago 7
@goodomen1985 the train made by Germans killed over a hundred!!
accident is just accident!!
fatpanda1000 7 months ago
@fatpanda1000 Did the Germans bury the trains the next day? No, they figured out the cause of the accident and fixed it.
Spokker 7 months ago
@fatpanda1000 But the kept the carriages and found out the cause. They didn't just go 'ah fuck' and bury them.
mrmootheirrev 7 months ago
@mrmootheirrev u think they didn't do the same thing!
the officials said that they buried train head for rescuing and personally I accept this explaination.
'cause so many cameras and media there and this is such a big and serious accident and there is no way to hide anything
fatpanda1000 7 months ago
@fatpanda1000 came from german. to fake it and re produce, just like dr fighter plane...
goodomen1985 7 months ago