@ulykpain Can't tell you without a personal history, which I am not asking for quite honestly. If you have had a previous full rupture then you may need to consider whether or not straight arm work is safe for you. The best way to do so is to start off very, very easy and do planche simulations with dumbbells. Start off very light, like 5 lbs, and build up 1 lb at a time. It should never feel bad, if it does you went up in weight too soon. Eventually planche leans will be ok.
hi, thank you for this video. about 2 years ago, i started to have weird pain in my left arm that was worst at the inner elbow. i never figured out what i did to it. i was doing tucked planches and one day decided to switch my hands around. i figured it wouldn't make much difference. i was very wrong. after doing that for a few weeks, i could not even open the fridge.
@barryvardypilates My cervical spine is not in good alignment, this is true. These days it is much better, good eye! For everyone seeing this comment, try to keep your neck in a neutral position. Don't crane your head way forward like I am in this video, that's not good.
There are, however, no hinges in the spine unless you count the atloaxial joint, and that's just below the base of the skull (C1&C2) and isn't even a hinge, it's a pivot. Still, I think I know what you're getting at.
There is a firm called Firetoys, and they sell a pullup bar just like that. I was wondering if the one you have is one of theirs. But it's not, clearly, so... where did you get all your nice gymnastics equipment? If you made it yourself, could you please post drawings with dimensions somewhere and indicate which materials you used? Thanks!
@gnostie I made everything. Those are my parallel bars. Buy pipe of the size you want (measure things out so that your feet don't touch the ground when you are in an upper arm support), 8 T fittings of the same size, and assemble with pipe wrenches. The pipe will likely be unthreaded but machine shops/hardware stores should be able to thread it for you for a small fee. Cut pipe and then thread. Width of p-bars should be length from outside of bent elbow to longest fingertip + 2-3 finger width.
It will help prevent that from occurring, yes. If you already have it you can use this as part of a rehab protocol but you will want to consult a licensed professional and do what they tell you.
ive had tendonitis for about a year (i had an mri and they showed it in two parts, mainly where bicep tendon connects to shoulder and the other around the back somewhere), due to over training with weights and MMA. i didnt listen to my body and im payin for it big time. its gotten a little bit better. i checked progress today with 10 pound dumbell bicep curls and i had very minimal discomfort... is it common for tendonitis to take over a year..... ?? and do you think it ever goes back to normal?
@leafar198866 That's not tendonitis, that's tendonosis. Tendon degeneration, right? Depending on how severe it is the tendon can take up to 3 years to fully recover. The longer the condition has been around the longer it takes to heal, and even with single injuries that don't seem chronic a true 100% recovery typically takes at least 12 months. You can return to training fairly quickly if you're lucky, but you won't be 100% and training regimens will have to reflect that.
Hey, i like your videos. Does tendon strength apply to the front lever too? I have advanced to the advanced tuck, and starting to feel it in the elbows. Im working tuck planche, adv. tuck front lever and some skin the cat every day in GTG style. Is this too much? Thanks.
@Reisepoff 4x per week should be ok. More than that may be asking too much of your body. If you are using true GTG style then your intensity is very low, as it should be. If you aren't active on gymnasticbodies I will suggest that you at least lurk on the boards and read about the steady state cycles for the statics.
If you're strong enough to do scaled WODs, you should definitely give them a try. They are very time-efficient and effective. Baseline would be the ability to do 10-20 pull ups and dips. If you can do that you should have no problem doing scaled WODs with the book!
Either way, the statics are separate. They can be done any time, but Coach prefers them to be done as part of the warm up. You aren't supposed to be going super hard on them.
I have been following some of your videos. Its really great resource for beginners. I have also joined gymnasticbodies and I was wondering if you recommend doing this kind of static work for a while and keeping off the WOD for a sometime. If so then for how long before I should start with WOD progressions ?
@tazzpower Take your time and work on wrist strengthening! At first just once or twice a week may be all you can handle, and if so that is ok! There are a lot of good things to do for wrist conditioning, but forearm curls and grippers are two simple and effective places to begin. With the forearm curls(regular and reverse) make sure to uncurl the hand all the way so you just hold the dumbbell/barbell with the fingers and then curl back up into a fist before doing the next rep of the curl!
hey so sorry mabey i didnt watch longenought but this is strenthining the tendon? i have bad elbows kinda they hurt after i hit the gym would this help me? i have never seen this done and at like 348 when you knees are on your elbows your could you not breat a arm if you biceps gave out :P
@garthzutautas Technically you can't break your arm at the elbow, you would "just" tear tendons, muscles, and/or ligaments. :P
Yes, if you try to push yourself too hard too fast then you will absolutely wreck yourself. If you try to approach this kind of work with a strength mindset like "I'm going to work this HARD and get STRONG!" you will get injured. Period. Tendons take forever to heal compared to muscles, so strengthening them simply takes much longer and requires lower intensity.
This very well COULD help your elbows, but you should only be doing planche leans and German hang work for a while. You don't add in any advanced frogstand until you stop feeling pain for 3-6 months.
In the meantime, you need to tone down your workouts. All you are doing right now is making things worse every time you work out hard enough to make your elbows hurt. Trust me, it will be somewhat demoralizing at first but once your healed you can get FAR stronger than you are today.
In my opinion, going very light for 3-6 months and healing properly, then slowly stepping back up to my previous bests with NO PAIN, and THEN slowly moving far beyond them is much better than feeling my elbows hurt after workouts.
I have had the same issues, and what I am telling you is exactly what I did. You need very low weight with higher reps like 15-20 for your biceps and triceps, and there should be no pain. At first this meant 2 lb dumbbells for me. That's how it goes.
@slizzardman Does this also strengthen UCL/MCL ligaments?
if so where do i start xD , i have yet to have an elbow problem but throwing creates immense valgus stress on the elbow which causes extreme wear and tear on the tendons so i would like to provide preventative strengthening
@drewsky90 That's a good question. I can tell you this: It improves a javelin thrower's performance. As a thrower you should absolutely be incorporating straight arm work. Your best bet is to use Coach Sommer's Iron Cross elbow conditioning progression.
High rep work for all of your forearm muscles will help a lot also, as they will be protecting all the tendons and ligaments. I have made some interesting devices for strengthening this specifically, but I am still testing them.
Slizzardman, I wish I had seen this sooner. Everybody always shows their hardcore training, but nobody show their warming. Which, in my opinion, is just as important. Thank you for uploading this! Very valuable information.
Believe it or not, your warm up is actually at LEAST as essential to your long-term progress as your actual workouts when you're working on bodyweight strength, especially gymnastic progressions.
Your warm up is when you are doing all of your prehab, preparatory work, and most static work. My workout is really pretty short, maybe 30 minutes or so with the occasional 45 minute workout, and my warm up is around 30 minutes.
This is totally different from weightlifting. I'm glad you enjoyed this!
Great post! I am having slight medial elbow pain when doing things like muscle ups... what do you think? It is where the triceps attaches to the inside elbow. I usually do straight arm work with the frog and planche tuck, but Ill back off and do slightly bent. good post man. thanks for the information.
@GymFITUSA You might have some strength imbalances. TO clarify: If I hold my hands up like I am going to perform a double karate chop, with my upper arm parallel to the ground , elbow at 90 degrees and my thumb facing my face, is it the point where my elbows would touch if I touched them together with palms facing each other?
If it is, I think something is going on with your arm angle and you're getting lateral tension in the elbow. That's not good lol! You'd need to adjust the arm angle.
@Duf67 THis is my girlfriend's place, the basement. I had my gym down here and will again, it's just a matter of when! I love it down there. Stay tuned, my WOD from yesterday will be up later today. It's a fun one!
@slizzardman Thanks alot bro! i turned 19 yesterday, im working out for 2 years and a month now.. i weight 220lbs .. you a big man to. no excuses lets show the world ! you inspire me alot , and i learn alot to !
@LittleBeastM That's awesome! You're only beginning to tap your potential, there is a loooong way you can still go. I'm almost 29 and I too have a long, long way before I hit any limits!
I love your motivation! I have no excuses either, and I absolutely AM going to show the world some things they have never seen, at least not in 80 years.
How long do I do the hang for 1 minute and the frog for 1 minute per day only?
PaulPaulMan 3 days ago
I ruptured my bicep tendon, are you SURE this shit is gonna help ?
ulykpain 1 week ago
@ulykpain Can't tell you without a personal history, which I am not asking for quite honestly. If you have had a previous full rupture then you may need to consider whether or not straight arm work is safe for you. The best way to do so is to start off very, very easy and do planche simulations with dumbbells. Start off very light, like 5 lbs, and build up 1 lb at a time. It should never feel bad, if it does you went up in weight too soon. Eventually planche leans will be ok.
slizzardman 1 week ago
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@slizzardman Thanks a lot man i will definitely take on your advise
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Thanks a lot man i will definitely take on your advise
ulykpain 1 week ago
hi, thank you for this video. about 2 years ago, i started to have weird pain in my left arm that was worst at the inner elbow. i never figured out what i did to it. i was doing tucked planches and one day decided to switch my hands around. i figured it wouldn't make much difference. i was very wrong. after doing that for a few weeks, i could not even open the fridge.
ryanjawad 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Mate look at your spine in that hang. Think about spinal hinges.
barryvardypilates 3 months ago
@barryvardypilates My cervical spine is not in good alignment, this is true. These days it is much better, good eye! For everyone seeing this comment, try to keep your neck in a neutral position. Don't crane your head way forward like I am in this video, that's not good.
There are, however, no hinges in the spine unless you count the atloaxial joint, and that's just below the base of the skull (C1&C2) and isn't even a hinge, it's a pivot. Still, I think I know what you're getting at.
slizzardman 3 months ago
Is that a Firetoys pullup bar you've got there?
gnostie 4 months ago
@gnostie A what?
slizzardman 4 months ago
@slizzardman
There is a firm called Firetoys, and they sell a pullup bar just like that. I was wondering if the one you have is one of theirs. But it's not, clearly, so... where did you get all your nice gymnastics equipment? If you made it yourself, could you please post drawings with dimensions somewhere and indicate which materials you used? Thanks!
gnostie 4 months ago
@gnostie I made everything. Those are my parallel bars. Buy pipe of the size you want (measure things out so that your feet don't touch the ground when you are in an upper arm support), 8 T fittings of the same size, and assemble with pipe wrenches. The pipe will likely be unthreaded but machine shops/hardware stores should be able to thread it for you for a small fee. Cut pipe and then thread. Width of p-bars should be length from outside of bent elbow to longest fingertip + 2-3 finger width.
slizzardman 4 months ago
Will these exercise help bicep tendinitis in the shoulder? Is that what this video is for, or for pain the the elbow.
BENNYNOCKIT 6 months ago
It will help prevent that from occurring, yes. If you already have it you can use this as part of a rehab protocol but you will want to consult a licensed professional and do what they tell you.
slizzardman 6 months ago
@BENNYNOCKIT masturbation damages tendons and elbows.
gingowitch 5 months ago
ive had tendonitis for about a year (i had an mri and they showed it in two parts, mainly where bicep tendon connects to shoulder and the other around the back somewhere), due to over training with weights and MMA. i didnt listen to my body and im payin for it big time. its gotten a little bit better. i checked progress today with 10 pound dumbell bicep curls and i had very minimal discomfort... is it common for tendonitis to take over a year..... ?? and do you think it ever goes back to normal?
leafar198866 6 months ago
@leafar198866 That's not tendonitis, that's tendonosis. Tendon degeneration, right? Depending on how severe it is the tendon can take up to 3 years to fully recover. The longer the condition has been around the longer it takes to heal, and even with single injuries that don't seem chronic a true 100% recovery typically takes at least 12 months. You can return to training fairly quickly if you're lucky, but you won't be 100% and training regimens will have to reflect that.
slizzardman 3 months ago
Thanks slizzardman, nice vid.
linzhenlong 6 months ago
Hey, i like your videos. Does tendon strength apply to the front lever too? I have advanced to the advanced tuck, and starting to feel it in the elbows. Im working tuck planche, adv. tuck front lever and some skin the cat every day in GTG style. Is this too much? Thanks.
Reisepoff 11 months ago
@Reisepoff 4x per week should be ok. More than that may be asking too much of your body. If you are using true GTG style then your intensity is very low, as it should be. If you aren't active on gymnasticbodies I will suggest that you at least lurk on the boards and read about the steady state cycles for the statics.
slizzardman 10 months ago
@slizzardman my bicep vein wont pop out,help please!
GsxRaider 6 months ago
is it ok to do this on top of weight training three days a week?
cor21993 11 months ago
@cor21993 absolutely. You should not be wearing yourself out with this.
slizzardman 11 months ago
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cor21993 11 months ago
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cor21993 11 months ago
If you're strong enough to do scaled WODs, you should definitely give them a try. They are very time-efficient and effective. Baseline would be the ability to do 10-20 pull ups and dips. If you can do that you should have no problem doing scaled WODs with the book!
Either way, the statics are separate. They can be done any time, but Coach prefers them to be done as part of the warm up. You aren't supposed to be going super hard on them.
slizzardman 11 months ago
I have been following some of your videos. Its really great resource for beginners. I have also joined gymnasticbodies and I was wondering if you recommend doing this kind of static work for a while and keeping off the WOD for a sometime. If so then for how long before I should start with WOD progressions ?
dhnerurkar 11 months ago
You remind me of Chuck from the Johto region =p
He's a pokemon gym leader
jrk987 1 year ago
how many sets of this holds is preferable to do (for german hand and pl leans)?
every workout's day (or is better take a day only for the conditioning of the body?)? and perform them in the warm up sets?
bboypg 1 year ago
I have very weak wrist so I will be going very slow. But how many times a week do I try the strait arm hold. I don't want to hurt my wrist. Thanks
tazzpower 1 year ago
@tazzpower Take your time and work on wrist strengthening! At first just once or twice a week may be all you can handle, and if so that is ok! There are a lot of good things to do for wrist conditioning, but forearm curls and grippers are two simple and effective places to begin. With the forearm curls(regular and reverse) make sure to uncurl the hand all the way so you just hold the dumbbell/barbell with the fingers and then curl back up into a fist before doing the next rep of the curl!
slizzardman 1 year ago
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drewsky90 1 year ago
hey so sorry mabey i didnt watch longenought but this is strenthining the tendon? i have bad elbows kinda they hurt after i hit the gym would this help me? i have never seen this done and at like 348 when you knees are on your elbows your could you not breat a arm if you biceps gave out :P
garthzutautas 1 year ago
@garthzutautas Technically you can't break your arm at the elbow, you would "just" tear tendons, muscles, and/or ligaments. :P
Yes, if you try to push yourself too hard too fast then you will absolutely wreck yourself. If you try to approach this kind of work with a strength mindset like "I'm going to work this HARD and get STRONG!" you will get injured. Period. Tendons take forever to heal compared to muscles, so strengthening them simply takes much longer and requires lower intensity.
slizzardman 1 year ago
This very well COULD help your elbows, but you should only be doing planche leans and German hang work for a while. You don't add in any advanced frogstand until you stop feeling pain for 3-6 months.
In the meantime, you need to tone down your workouts. All you are doing right now is making things worse every time you work out hard enough to make your elbows hurt. Trust me, it will be somewhat demoralizing at first but once your healed you can get FAR stronger than you are today.
slizzardman 1 year ago
In my opinion, going very light for 3-6 months and healing properly, then slowly stepping back up to my previous bests with NO PAIN, and THEN slowly moving far beyond them is much better than feeling my elbows hurt after workouts.
I have had the same issues, and what I am telling you is exactly what I did. You need very low weight with higher reps like 15-20 for your biceps and triceps, and there should be no pain. At first this meant 2 lb dumbbells for me. That's how it goes.
slizzardman 1 year ago
@slizzardman Does this also strengthen UCL/MCL ligaments?
if so where do i start xD , i have yet to have an elbow problem but throwing creates immense valgus stress on the elbow which causes extreme wear and tear on the tendons so i would like to provide preventative strengthening
thanks!
drewsky90 1 year ago
@drewsky90 That's a good question. I can tell you this: It improves a javelin thrower's performance. As a thrower you should absolutely be incorporating straight arm work. Your best bet is to use Coach Sommer's Iron Cross elbow conditioning progression.
High rep work for all of your forearm muscles will help a lot also, as they will be protecting all the tendons and ligaments. I have made some interesting devices for strengthening this specifically, but I am still testing them.
slizzardman 1 year ago
@slizzardman awesome bruh i like what ya do ill be checkin periodically for updates
drewsky90 1 year ago
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drewsky90 1 year ago
Slizzardman, I wish I had seen this sooner. Everybody always shows their hardcore training, but nobody show their warming. Which, in my opinion, is just as important. Thank you for uploading this! Very valuable information.
getinthecarbitch 1 year ago
Believe it or not, your warm up is actually at LEAST as essential to your long-term progress as your actual workouts when you're working on bodyweight strength, especially gymnastic progressions.
Your warm up is when you are doing all of your prehab, preparatory work, and most static work. My workout is really pretty short, maybe 30 minutes or so with the occasional 45 minute workout, and my warm up is around 30 minutes.
This is totally different from weightlifting. I'm glad you enjoyed this!
slizzardman 1 year ago
Thanks Bro... I love your videos...
JohnnyVegaz007 1 year ago
This is such valuable information. Thanks for sharing!
supernewuser 1 year ago
great video i need a camera hah
tyranttbc69 1 year ago
Great post! I am having slight medial elbow pain when doing things like muscle ups... what do you think? It is where the triceps attaches to the inside elbow. I usually do straight arm work with the frog and planche tuck, but Ill back off and do slightly bent. good post man. thanks for the information.
GymFITUSA 1 year ago
@GymFITUSA You might have some strength imbalances. TO clarify: If I hold my hands up like I am going to perform a double karate chop, with my upper arm parallel to the ground , elbow at 90 degrees and my thumb facing my face, is it the point where my elbows would touch if I touched them together with palms facing each other?
If it is, I think something is going on with your arm angle and you're getting lateral tension in the elbow. That's not good lol! You'd need to adjust the arm angle.
slizzardman 1 year ago
arms look great.....how big are the arms?
craignkrp09 1 year ago
@craignkrp09 Thanks! I don't actually know, I never measure. Somewhere between 17 and 18", I think.
slizzardman 1 year ago
Is this still your parents place or did you move out? Looks different.
Duf67 1 year ago
@Duf67 THis is my girlfriend's place, the basement. I had my gym down here and will again, it's just a matter of when! I love it down there. Stay tuned, my WOD from yesterday will be up later today. It's a fun one!
slizzardman 1 year ago
@slizzardman Ah so you were living with her, then back to parents, now back with her? I need a video just clarifying your relationship status. :)
I picked up an Iron Gym cheap the other week. It's a great tool, can even throw rings off it.
Duf67 1 year ago
i like your crib yo
LittleBeastM 1 year ago
@LittleBeastM Thanks! I enjoy watching your videos. You're a bit ahead of me in the strength department for now lol! How long have you been training?
slizzardman 1 year ago
@slizzardman Thanks alot bro! i turned 19 yesterday, im working out for 2 years and a month now.. i weight 220lbs .. you a big man to. no excuses lets show the world ! you inspire me alot , and i learn alot to !
LittleBeastM 1 year ago
@LittleBeastM That's awesome! You're only beginning to tap your potential, there is a loooong way you can still go. I'm almost 29 and I too have a long, long way before I hit any limits!
I love your motivation! I have no excuses either, and I absolutely AM going to show the world some things they have never seen, at least not in 80 years.
slizzardman 1 year ago
Good video, recommended for all people that want to start learning the Planche !
Dont think you wont need it ~ you will get injured if you dont watch out !
Nice vid ~ good lookin out ~
beratio 1 year ago