David Cameron's First Ever PMQs, 7 December 2005

[BigWilki123321]

Haha great PMQ, Blair wins this, just like he won pretty much every exchange he's ever had in PMQ.

[iloverockmusic101]

I'm a Labour supporter, but Cameron slaughtered Blair in this ^^

[xwingclass]

blair was brilliant at the dispatch box really. whatever we think of him. he would beat dave any day.

[WerdnaLlewen1993]

The right honourable gentlemen over Mr Cameron's right shoulder has a God-awful tie.

[PoliticalVoiceGB]

@WerdnaLlewen1993 He's the Internation Development Secretary and a very perculiar looking man - I've always thought he looks like he should be sat in the Chamber 50 years ago.

[dalgetty]

Labour's loss at the general election was sealed as soon as Cameron said "he was the future once"

[guymedia2012]

@dalgetty Thats a very bold statement there. I think voters make up there minds on more than issue!

[dalgetty]

@guymedia2012 True - it just seems to me that at this point Blair knew he couldn't win against Cameron, and that therefore he had to pass the leadership over to Brown. Who was unelectable.

[chilled99]

Blair oozes out of the rendition question

[luk3th3duk3]

see the monkeys our country is run by? it's like a primary school assembly.

[hatinae]

I clicked this video right after watching Lady Thatcher's PMQ performance and I have to say Maggie looked like a ferocious lioness whereas B-lair looks like a wet rat !

[MilibandDavid]

He really got to work on Tony Bullshit.

[visitplanetmike]

This is why britain has the best political system in the world.

[Threepwoodist]

It's amazing what Cameron is asking for, considering what they've done with students now, blaming it all on having a debt.

[Reunakk]

@Threepwoodist Well the Tories had left labour a massive financial cushion and a lot a lot of money to spare. Labour spent it all, so choices such as the admissions fees are a results of labour's pointless spending of the money the Tories built up. Labour ruin the economy, then the Tories fix it - involving unpopular choices - resulting in Labour being voted in. So the cycle continues.

[Threepwoodist]

@Reunakk you fail to grasp my point or choose to ignore it. Even during his opposition years, Cameron wanted to raise tuition fees, this is nothing to do with debt. The tories would have done this anyway, it's in their nature.

[Reunakk]

@Threepwoodist Maybe it's because of the the Tory's said 'nature' that they are so good with money? The government aren't expecting students to pay up front, they're giving them the time to get a decent paying job so they can pay the loan back. At least the Conservatives don't fuck up the economy every time without fail, despite any faults they may have.

[Threepwoodist]

@Reunakk So you are ignoring my point completely, and rabbiting on about something else, trying to defend the indefensible with point scoring, you must think that you are some great political commentator.

How does having a greedy nature (that is the nature I refer to), in correlation with raising tuition fees before any major economical problems during the opposition years, mean the tories are good with money? I would like you to answer that please.

[Reunakk]

@Threepwoodist So having a view contrasting with yours makes me a political commentator? Wow. They are good with money, because they don't arbritrarily spend it, they save it. Therefore when they are in power their ability to reduce the deficit, such as the one we have now, is minimal compared to the way Labour do things. That is quite simply why they are better with money. Maybe one of the ways they feel best to do that, is to charge more for uni fees? (I am a student btw).

[Threepwoodist]

@Reunakk No you aren't reading what I am saying again, that first question, you made up, and answered all by yourself, so let's not look to stupid point scoring, it seems that's all you are capable of doing.

Yes the tories save money, they 'conserve' indeed, but they conserve for the minority of wealthy people in this country, and not the majority of us. You are a student and you stand by this dough-faced idiot; you are a stupid student then, and probably won't get your qualification.

[Reunakk]

@Threepwoodist A stupid student who scored AAAA at a-level. Please, stop with the insults? You're angry at Cameron. This is a free country so I am allowed to support a party I wish to support. Don't take it out on me.

What I am saying, is that his tuition fees policy is probably party of the larger economic plan (and an incentive to work hard later in life), as opposed to just being a greedy kleptocrat which you seem to be insinuate. Him being greedy is a personal, not political, point.

[Threepwoodist]

@Reunakk A personal view cannot be political? You are going to fail your exams at university level. I'm not angry at Cameron, I'm angry at you, because I'm not insinuating, I'm blatantly stating, that Cameron wanted to raise tuition fees way before the economic crisis even occurred; you were defending that, and you are still doing a terrible job of defending it. That means, that the tuition fees being raised now, is not something to safeguard the economy because of the mess that Labour left.

[Reunakk]

@Threepwoodist And I'm saying that you need to safeguard an economy at all times, through good and bad. His intention to raise fees earlier was probably an economically based decision - you don't need to be horrifically in debt to be thinking about where money goes/comes from. I really am very unsure why you think he's just being greedy, he's probably trying. That's a bit too assumptive to be having a go about. I'll leave you to it now, you're being an angry individual, and I don't like insults.

[Threepwoodist]

@Reunakk How can you deny, that the tories didn't want to raise fees anyway despite whatever economic climate we had, when there is ample evidence in favour of my argument, not your humming and hawing.

[Threepwoodist]

@Reunakk You even admitted it yourself by saying that the tory ability to reduce any deficit is minimal, and that's not a reason why they are good with money, that's a reason in my favour; but we're not debating whether the tories are good with money, we're debating the fact that Cameron wanted to raise tuition fees before this economic crisis, despite it all, this was coming anyway despite the debt, you answered otherwise, let's stick to the topic shall we ...

[Reunakk]

@Threepwoodist That was a mistype, I meant they run a minimal deficit when they are in power. And I'm saying that yes tories wanted to raise fees anyway, but that's probably just the way they want to save money to put elsewhere etc rather than being some random greed. Labour were spending recklessly anyway so it's fair enough if the Conservatives wanted to try and moderate that slightly - you don't just sit by if you think an economy can do even better. Crisis' aside.

[xgteenterritory]

Why are some of MPs standing up occasionally?

[mikerouse]

@xgteenterritory They are attempting to 'catch the eye' of the Speaker so that he knows they would like to ask a question.

[PoliticalVoiceGB]

@mikerouse Which is interesting because the Speaker already has a list of those who are going to ask questions on the order paper.

[dcasey77]

It's interesting to see how Cameron has changed his image.

The hairstyle change makes him look less like an Old Etonian. He seems a much more professional and polished performer now.

I think we will have to wait at least 10 years before his success as Prime Minister can be properly assessed.

[GamingLogics]

cocky from the start, now whose laughing tho? 

[dark1ankh]

Pause at 4:23. You will get a shock !

[mammers11]

Can someone explain why certain members stand up and sit down whenever the side that is speaking changes? It seems as though on both sides there will be several members quickly rising and sitting whenever either party leader approaches or steps back from the microphone.

[prigg88]

@mammers11 They are trying to get the speaker's eye so they can ask a question

[mammers11]

@prigg88 gotcha

[dcasey77]

@prigg88 I thought that the Prime Minister knew what questions were going to be asked and who was going to ask them so that he/she can have a chance to prepare answers.

[Willdude208]

Cameron got owned there didn't he?

[Marronisince1990]

Why are they throwing quotes at each other through a 3rd person? Why aren't they having a conversation?...... Oh dear humans.....

[mikerouse]

@Marronisince1990 all participants in a debate must speak through the Speaker of the House rather than address each other directly. They are also not allowed to point a finger at each other. Also, they cannot call each other by name, but must instead address them as the member for whatever constituency they represent. There is a book called Erskine May that details parliamentary procedures.

[Marronisince1990]

@mikerouse Fuck

[Trek001]

@mikerouse I believe the rule is waved for the Pm and leader of the minority as you can clearly see Cameron and Millband doing it

[mikerouse]

@Trek001 Each Speaker will use their discretion whether or not to enforce the rules and the present incumbent probably takes the view that intervening for minor infringements would put the public off. He can write to Members after the event to remind them of rules rather than interrupting debate. It's important to remember that all members are considered 'honourable' so it would be considered rude to interrupt an honourable man unless it was necessary.

[Makashi11]

@Marronisince1990 Because you (the General populace) have shown that when election time comes you value cheap soundbites over rational conversation.

[Marronisince1990]

@Makashi11 Weve shown that? Or weve been duped to that?... Coz if you ask me, the general public see through this horse shit, they're just a bit too scared to fully admit it. Besides, it's easier to vote and feel as though you made a difference than it is to join hands and take our country back.... Such a shame.

[carpinus02]

@Marronisince1990 Right,600 odd people trying to have a conversation

all at once,with no intervention or procedure,can you imagine that?

[mrinvincible2001]

cameron and blair were similar at PMQs brown sucked & cameron used to smash him to bits nearly every week. milliband started off shiteous and had a good few sessions recently

[coveneyr]

@mrinvincible2001 I remember the first few PMQs with Brown - he was totally out of his depth and it got worse from there.

[ridewave444]

I think these guys in Parliament get along better than our U.S. Congressmen.

[welshpollypanad]

What an idiot!

[Jaygull]

Lol, so he's been a prissy little flat-track bully then. First thing Cameron does is deflect before he's even offered a question. :P

[falafelhotdog]

@HughStirling lol!!!

[Vahik88]

Cameron has changed a lot in 6 years! He's sharper, faster, more dynamic and seems much smarter!

[evertonjf08]

@Vahik88 Yeah! Very smart isn't he... No growth. Mass unemployment. The MOST regressive education policy that Michael Gove has put forward! <-- disgusting the new Education changes! Bloody Disgusting! NHS! Do you want you're Doctors to be health professionals or a accountant?

[Vahik88]

@evertonjf08 you can't expect everything to be good from any prime minister, it's not as if the PM has a button which when he presses, economy grows and the opposite! Even if you had Einstein or whoever is the cleverest person on the world, they wouldn't be able to do much more. David is just unlucky that his luck was to be a PM in the bad times and everybody or many people blame him for that, but even if there was another PM who has been liked in his times he would have been disliked now.

[Jimmmeeehhh]

@Vahik88 and much more intentional on ruining the nation!

[GeeGee3374]

funny how Tony attacks call me Dave for wanting to cut spending when we learn from his book he wanted to cut spending and that Brown was blocking him.

[dlk1dlk1]

The fear on Blair's face!

[ArjunJethwa]

@HughStirling hahaha agreed

[TKDGSA]

"He was the future once"

And now, David, you're dragging us back into the past.

[tdp1909]

@TKDGSA It would be hard to beat Labour on that front with the deficit they bequethed which has set our economy back years...

[TKDGSA]

@tdp1909 And what was the alternative to saving the banks? Letting them fail?

[tdp1909]

@TKDGSA Yup - as with all private industry. Saving industries by nationalising them has been proven time and again to fail yet it is always peddled again and again as being a good idea.

[TKDGSA]

@tdp1909 Let the banks fail, great idea, that's one hell of a way to damage our economy.

[tdp1909]

@TKDGSA Look at Iceland - didn't bail out & it's already in recovery. Besides only a Keynesian would argue that banks failing would damage the economy. The Austrian school see it differently: /watch?v=GTQnarzmTOc&feature=p­layer_embedded#at=131

[TKDGSA]

@tdp1909 Did you realise that Britain is recovering also? This is a global crisis and there is a global recovery. Look at the bigger picture. You seem to forget that the banks are one of the most important parts of the British economy, so to just let them fail is to let a large proportion of the economy fail also.

By the way, that is a very biased video, so don't use crap like that as evidence. The moment that people use very biased pieces to support their argument, they lose all credibility.

[TKDGSA]

@tdp1909 Germany has had a history of having one of the strongest economies in the modern world, you should know that. I would argue that it also has a far more diverse economy than ours, further strengthening it.

First of all, learn to spell, if you intend to have an intelligent debate "u r a moro" isn't a good way to begin a point. As for the bias, the arguments that they put forward are relatively balanced, yet look at the footage itself.

Anyway, the video isn't the point.

[tdp1909]

@TKDGSA I thought you'd point out the spelling thing, which is why I re-wrote it. Irony's on me I guess.

In terms of the video, I think most people are so indoctrinated on Keynesianism that they forget that there is another perspective. Having viewed the whole channel, I'd say they were merely illustrating that there are two sides to the debate, rather than pushing any particular line.

[tdp1909]

@TKDGSA Recovering at a rate of 0.5% compared to the USA at 3% and Germany at 3.5%. This is mostly due to Labour bloating our economy with debt, big government and the longest tax code in the world.

With the video, u r a moron - the video shows BOTH sides of the argument. In fact there is even a diss at the start towards Hayek (High explosives), suggesting that most people don't even know who he is. Fact is there is an Austrian school and a Keynesian school and Austrian's have a better record.

[TKDGSA]

@tdp1909 Oh, another thing, saying "only a [XYZ] would think/say/do [ABC]" loses a great amount of credibility in an argument. It makes you look ignorant for making generalisations and, to be honest, is a very underhand way of arguing a point, so you'd probably do yourself a favour if you didn't make statements like that.

[tdp1909]

@TKDGSA "Oh, another thing, saying "only a [XYZ] would think/say/do [ABC]" loses a great amount of credibility"

Methinks you don't understand the argument. Fair enough - maybe an Austrian would too, but u as a Keynesian seem to be blind to the fact that there is an opposing view that makes more sense.

Fact is nationalising industries has long been shown to be a bad idea, but some think that it "saves the world". Given the long-term damage it does to the company and the economy, this is false

[TKDGSA]

@tdp1909 I am fully aware that there is an opposing view (otherwise I wouldn't be having this debate). My point was on credibility in arguing technique and that making generalisations lose you credibility.

"Fact is"? Really? Where has this claim come from? Tell you what, prove that letting the banks fail is a superior way of dealing with a crisis. Look at Northern Rock, what would have happened if that collapsed? I doubt we'd be in great shape.

[tdp1909]

@TKDGSA Fully aware? I'm betting you never even heard of the Austrian school before I mentioned it 2 u. Trouble is Google means there is no way of proving this, though I'm convinced that you don't *know* what school of Economics the Austrian school derives from, or who founded it.

Regarding bank failures, u r clearly a pedant rather than someone who knows his beans- "Fact is" is a turn of phrase. Banks failing happened in the 1700's and is how we got the current big 4. Survival of the fittest

[Kozzy06]

@TKDGSA No, Labour did that leaving the country with its biggest debt and deficit in its history, records levels of immigration, and a collaspe in social values in society.

[TKDGSA]

@Kozzy06 "A collapse in social values in society"? You're full of crap, that comment doesn't even deserve an educational response. The only way to avoid the immigration was to leave the EU - not a very bright move to be honest.

Biggest debt in our history, yes, but look at it in percentage terms, not just a raw number. It is a big deficit, but this was a global crisis, not one exclusive to Britain and therefore not down to Labour.

You really do swallow up the Tory party crap don't you?

[mikerouse]

Rarely will a comment on such an old video be moderated or removed, but death threats and libel can't be tolerated.

[haiboriver]

: ) tide is turning..does T Blair remember no more than a decade ago while He had his party to lead and Major had his party to follow?....haha...how nice to be young....lol...

[ubernaffa]

Blair was just playing with David Cameron here, he should have torn DC to shreds. It's quite ironic that the Labour party has gone from having the best parliamentary speaker since Thatcher to having Gordon Brown, and now Ed Miliband. I miss seeing Tony give the leader of the opposition their weekly beating.

[MrDannybs09]

@ubernaffa I guess you don't know how bad Tony Blair was!

[ubernaffa]

@MrDannybs09 I guess you don't have a degree in political science?!

[MrDannybs09]

@ubernaffa You don't have to have a political science degree to know a good and bad politician.

[jayflux]

Is it me or does Cameron look drunk in this

[jayflux]

Cameron is good at this there's no doubt about it, its like he was born to exchange banter in the commons.

His speech is slow on this and he reads a lot from the paper, he is a lot more confident today.

[supermanFX70]

... back when those Lib Dems had some self-respect.

[ciaran3707]

Now that he's PM, has Cameron put those proposed trust school reforms through?

[Tr1963Rh4pPy]

@JaCkT794 I thought he said "Your mother's here" :P

[ellisbaker93]

You know Blair meant business when he put the glasses on...

[chowks]

nice bit of bullshit from Blair at the end....

[123HMatty]

i think that he did well here... against blair he kept arguments to the facts, but against brown he seemed to make everything personal, which i think made him look a little immature and maybe lost the conservative overall majority in the 2010 election.

[LowleyUK]

I hate Labour, but I can't help but like Tony Blair, though I disagree with a lot of what he says.

David Cameron has got better with time, I honestly think he will go on to be a great PM.

[JaCkT794]

Osbourne shouts "Your mother!" at 3:54 o_o

[StringArms]

@JaCkT794 LMAO, it really does sound like that.

[dataghost47]

@JaCkT794

He says "It's your policy".

[JaCkT794]

@dataghost47 oh right lol

[chriswhiting7]

Cameron is rubbish. Blair wiped the floor with him and oozed cool. Cameron, like insanekid95 said, asks the questions which is fine here but not fine when you become Prime Minister.

[Insanekid95]

@4:06 What's that I hear about the Prime Minister asking the questions, Dave? What an idiot. When he's the leader of the opposition, he accuses the Prime Minister of asking the questions. As soon as he becomes PM, he starts asking Miliband questions.

[TheBeatleboy64]

@Insanekid95 So damn true!!

[stevenoc]

OMG Cameron was a horrible litle man then and he's a horrible little man now...

[Insanekid95]

I was rooting for Tony Blair throughout this video until the American government was mentioned. Then, I was pationately hating him for supporting those war criminals Bush Cheney and Rice.

[RadeonXtremeVX2]

I cannot believe it's not butter

[officerprofile]

@StringArms yeah its crazy!!! what a toff!

[coveneyr]

@StringArms I can - two words...Gordon...Brown (the PR equivelant of cyanide)

[baxterbasics]

@StringArms I know - isn't it great!

[bigmangiff]

@StringArms yh but compare him to Gordon brown and tony Blair they were the biggest joke in political history

[StringArms]

@bigmangiff Tony Blair was one of the best Prime Ministers in our history.

[bigmangiff]

@StringArms how was he ?

[mrflibble101]

@StringArms Me neither. Or Clegg a deputy PM.

[Kozzy06]

@StringArms Out of Clegg and Milliband, give me Cameron anyday of the week. Same for Brown and Blair.

[shaz4real]

this GUY David Wanker was born rude he is no man of politics

[ClutchFan1971]

Why do some of the people stand up and then sit down again real fast when a new speaker stands up? I'm a yank so I don't know much about this stuff :)

[mikerouse]

@ClutchFan1971 The Speaker of the House may call any Member to ask a question, even if they are not on the list of names put together in advance of the session. They are standing in an attempt to catch the eye of the Speaker and let him know that they wish to ask a question. They sit back down when the Speaker has made his choice and the chosen Member rises to ask his or her question.

[ClutchFan1971]

@mikerouse Thank you!

[StanleyDonwood]

@ClutchFan1971

The Speaker almost always lets the leader of the opposition speak, or else an MP who has requested that he or she be allowed to ask a question at a specific point

[TAPEvans]

@ClutchFan1971 They stand up to ask a question, but if the Speaker chooses someone else they have to sit down and listen to what the other MP has to say, unfortunately for them :p

[TheNorchard]

I like it when David Cameron says that Tony Blair asking the questions was a thing of the past, when he does it himself all the time now.

[dlk1dlk1]

Blair knows they've lost the next election here.-

[mmikomi]

ed milliband had a far better 1st pmq's....had to laugth at the slasher 3:54

[Aleeraize]

Good PMQ, cute and funny.)) Blair is brilliant.

[yoctocb]

Cameron is surprisingly hesitant and nervous compared to his current performances. I think Milliband E was better at his first time performance.

[Jimmmeeehhh]

this performance from Cameron sums up the 'modern' Tories, dirty filthy single minded people.

[SirOneoneselfandone]

@Jimmmeeehhh what like tony blair????

[Jimmmeeehhh]

@SirOneoneselfandone tony blair isnt a tory? Blair did some things very wrong, i admit that, but everything he did wrong, the Tories supported. Cameron IS todays typical tory, rich, snobby aristorcrat who is only a tory because he has been brought up having not to do anything for himself, he has no idea what real life is like.

[abarisraksha]

Ed Miliband just paraphrased Cameron, saying:

"You were an optimist once."

It's five years later and Labour still haven't recovered from that line.

[abarisraksha]

@ubernaffa

You're watching one. Cameron offered to save Blair's policies from Brown and when Blair declined the offer Cameron declared him weak. Brown was running domestic policy by this point and after this exchange everyone knew it. It was such a devasting attack that Labour have tried to throw 'He was the future once' back at Cameron about a dozen times.

Blair recently backed Cameron's policies because they're the policies he'd have brought in if Brown had let him.

[rckflare]

@HughStirling haha, only the british can pull off sarcasm like you just did, that gets a thumbs up from me.

[rckflare]

@HughStirling i wholeheartedly disagree

[ubernaffa]

Hague certainly did better Tony on occasion, but David certainly didn't. I'm not just saying this because I'm an unapologetic fan of Tony's, but I never saw a single session that David out performed Tony.

[ubernaffa]

Blair was far too kind to Cameron here, he could (and should) have obliterated Cameron here.

[MetusModus]

@ubernaffa Yes but if you're labour you play fair, if your tory you aim to win, even if you have to lie, cheat and subtefuge all the way.

[longlivejacko]

cameron impressed me ever since that conferrence where he set out his stall. he'll make britain gr8 agen. in 5 yrs...

[SecretTheatre]

Thank God Dave has sorted out his hair and his suit. Osbourne looks the same, though.

[Jimmmeeehhh]

you can just tell Cameron has rehearsed this over, and over. Blair should have just taken him down like he can. Cameron is a cocky, inexperienced conservative and you will see this when we have a double dip recession soon!

[JoshuaUK]

Thanks for uploading. Been looking for this for a bit, Fair to say that Cameron has become a better performer at PMQs since then. We'll have to wait and see how he performs as PM.

[ToManyPhones]

I love how Brown rebuked Dave on the "You were the future once" line before the election.

[ToManyPhones]

Wow, Dave's patronising. :|

[active85858585]

haha lol at his hair - he's come a long way from here - to be fair, i'd be shitting myself n all. but to start on such a weak topic... shoulda gone for the juggular - "Mr Speaker, I wonder if the member for Sedgefield could tell the house why his such a minge?"

[kkwillsaveus]

Charles Kennedy, there's a blast from the past.

[lynnydo]

grade inflation caused this improvement, fucking wanker.

[charlieiscool1000]

there stands blair the money grabbing war criminal

[st3fanunited]

This PMQ's clearly shows the rise of Cameron was the downfall of Blair and today we can see that is exactly what has happened!

[Tr1963Rh4pPy]

What did Osborne just say at 3:54?

[jeremytravers1]

@Tr1963Rh4pPy "It's your policy."

[Myndir]

@Tr1963Rh4pPy He said "Your momma's school!"

[SirOneoneselfandone]

@Tr1963Rh4pPy lol

[ArjunJethwa]

@Tr1963Rh4pPy "its your policy"

[weatherallc05]

david cameron, you are not supposed to directly address other people in the house, you only address the speaker!

[youfatstinkypoo]

I think it's fair to say that David improved with time.

[SaladNinja3569]

@youfatstinkypoo no doubt about that

[rawdawg15]

@youfatstinkypoo

Yeah he sucked back then

[TheZanipolo]

BLIAR