muta tech wasn't scouted (even though mana had observers), and when the mutas came to his base, he had only sentries for AA, mana is a good player, but he didn't play his best this game, mutas didn't win the game, destiny did
@MoDoLoMo archons are slow as fuck, storms only work if the mutas stay still, and you need a fuck ton of stalkers which is bad for your army comp. Pheonix get wrecked from the splash damage.
@waltermatthewberg aim your storm better,control your archons bette, stop bitching start learning. if you lose to this play, and complain on units, your mechanics are bad, very bad. maybe you shouldn't be playing ?
@mrtherealfakevox lol? mass muta overpowered strat vs. p, there is no argument about mechanics. Destiny is nowhere close to mana's skill level but destroys him because protoss has no solid way to deal with mass muta.
I am not a z or p fanboy either, im a master level terran
@jdgaulin1 explain what he could have done? the only thing would be to harass before the muta transition, which is fairly hard to do unless your going a 6 gate pressure build or warp prism. protoss is not equipped to deal with mass muta on large maps.
@quercuz23 Really? The problem is not defending. The problem is protoss can't gain an offensive position because they will always be stuck in a base race position which next to impossible on a large map.
Hi honey, I am a grandmaster level zerg on SEA server. While muta is certainly very very strong on large maps like tald, protoss is capable of some very strong 3 base attacks (a non-retarded zerg wont allow toss to get 4th). The traditional storm/mass stalker works (no, getting archon and HT storm together is retarded, no gas), you get a strong and fast 15 min max push. Or the slower mothership deathball push (counters BL too).
Mutas never win games automatically unless the protoss is absolutely trash, all it does is gives zerg map control for zerg to build up econ and tech, but everything zerg does will be IN PREPARATION for the protoss 3 base death push. So you are missing the point of muta play, mutas themselves don't win games, it just gives zerg more freedom to set up for protoss death push. But in this game destiny played really well and mana didn't so no 3 base death ball ever came out.
For reference of good protoss.vs.muta play, see naniwa vs leenock. Naniwa lost because he decided to blink suicide 20 stalkers into blings but he showed how it could done: turtle up with minimal loss, then come out with a slow but ridiculously powerful as fuck mothership/stalker/archon army.
for those of you saying mass muta is OP
muta tech wasn't scouted (even though mana had observers), and when the mutas came to his base, he had only sentries for AA, mana is a good player, but he didn't play his best this game, mutas didn't win the game, destiny did
TheNeCafe 1 day ago
Combatex build!
bananian 2 weeks ago
If mass muta is so powerful, how come it's not used every game?
OOCMonster 1 month ago
Where's the other casters? I have no prob with these 2 but how about some games by HD and painuser? Just nice to hear some other perspectives.
ShaddamIVth 1 month ago
I miss the amulet. It used to make HTs more fun.
LoadingNova 1 month ago
muta is so fucking stupid in pvz
RoflDustin 1 month ago
REMEBER JAN 2011, PROTSS? YEAH FUCK YOU
FishyOnStick 1 month ago
That was a clever move to have his drones surround the hatch, shame it went down in the end.
lanz0r4tehwin 1 month ago in playlist More videos from IGNProLeague
This is why you shouldn't blind tech to robo
crossxlui 1 month ago
mass muta is so gay. protoss aa is worthless
waltermatthewberg 1 month ago
@waltermatthewberg umm, arcons? Storm? Stalkers?
MoDoLoMo 1 month ago
@MoDoLoMo archons are slow as fuck, storms only work if the mutas stay still, and you need a fuck ton of stalkers which is bad for your army comp. Pheonix get wrecked from the splash damage.
waltermatthewberg 1 month ago
@waltermatthewberg aim your storm better,control your archons bette, stop bitching start learning. if you lose to this play, and complain on units, your mechanics are bad, very bad. maybe you shouldn't be playing ?
mrtherealfakevox 1 month ago
@mrtherealfakevox stfu you stupid cunt. It is so easy to say "oh just play better". Archons don'f fly dick.
waltermatthewberg 1 month ago
@mrtherealfakevox lol? mass muta overpowered strat vs. p, there is no argument about mechanics. Destiny is nowhere close to mana's skill level but destroys him because protoss has no solid way to deal with mass muta.
I am not a z or p fanboy either, im a master level terran
RedBooster 1 month ago
@RedBooster No, Mana just didnt handle this well. Sorry.
jdgaulin1 1 month ago
@jdgaulin1 explain what he could have done? the only thing would be to harass before the muta transition, which is fairly hard to do unless your going a 6 gate pressure build or warp prism. protoss is not equipped to deal with mass muta on large maps.
RedBooster 1 month ago
@RedBooster He allowed Destiny map control all game, the robo bay was a mistake, he simply was just outplayed.
quercuz23 1 month ago
@quercuz23 Really? The problem is not defending. The problem is protoss can't gain an offensive position because they will always be stuck in a base race position which next to impossible on a large map.
I can see you're a zerg.
RedBooster 1 month ago
@quercuz23 This allows the zerg to mass expand while p is busy defending for the whole game.
RedBooster 1 month ago
@RedBooster
Hi honey, I am a grandmaster level zerg on SEA server. While muta is certainly very very strong on large maps like tald, protoss is capable of some very strong 3 base attacks (a non-retarded zerg wont allow toss to get 4th). The traditional storm/mass stalker works (no, getting archon and HT storm together is retarded, no gas), you get a strong and fast 15 min max push. Or the slower mothership deathball push (counters BL too).
Ev3rBorn 3 weeks ago
@RedBooster
Mutas never win games automatically unless the protoss is absolutely trash, all it does is gives zerg map control for zerg to build up econ and tech, but everything zerg does will be IN PREPARATION for the protoss 3 base death push. So you are missing the point of muta play, mutas themselves don't win games, it just gives zerg more freedom to set up for protoss death push. But in this game destiny played really well and mana didn't so no 3 base death ball ever came out.
Ev3rBorn 3 weeks ago
@RedBooster
For reference of good protoss.vs.muta play, see naniwa vs leenock. Naniwa lost because he decided to blink suicide 20 stalkers into blings but he showed how it could done: turtle up with minimal loss, then come out with a slow but ridiculously powerful as fuck mothership/stalker/archon army.
Ev3rBorn 3 weeks ago
@RedBooster
And honey, if you have farther problems, you are welcome to PM me your character ID/code, we can do some rape in 1v1.
Ev3rBorn 3 weeks ago
@RedBooster High templar, archon, stalkers, scouting... Are you sure you're master level?
quercuz23 1 month ago 2
If I were Destiny, I'd feel dirty after this game, lol.
M3t4lManiac 1 month ago
I remember CombatEx teaching Destiny this strategy, glad he can put it into great use.
DivinePoWAR 1 month ago 15
@DivinePoWAR
Also saw thatt..quiet funny video ^^
Infinity181091 1 month ago
@DivinePoWAR i'm maxed what do i do? just keep maxing!
sir0nion 1 month ago