couldnt agree more , my macbook apple says maxes out at 2gb, well guess what its running 4 right now, and apple said that my logic board was bad, turns out they were wrong about that too, sometimes i wonder about Apple
Look not everybody needs a lot of ram. If you surf the net and write emails, yeah don't waste your money. If you are a professional and work with media RAM is extremely important if you don't want to spend you're entire life rendering. Why do y'all talk about your own needs like its everyone else's too.
We do animation and motion graphic it is very important for us to maximize on ram. 32 gigabytes of ram is not for your average mac user. You wouldn't know what to do with it. You wouldnt need it. For a creative agency like us we live for ram. What I want to know is whether adding 32 gigs of ram will give your mac pro complications. What I mean is, will it give you problems not reading all the ram. I am using Flash Pro, Photoshop, Cinema 4d, After Effects all at the same time.
Let Me explain somehting to you all. The Mac Pro works best with 16 Gb, and let me explain why. Because the mac pro ram is FB DIMM's and they are on riser cards, and latency taken into account, the mac pro works best with 2 RAM sticks onto each riser card, and with 4 GB sticks (all that's currently available, and when 8 GB sticks come out, THEN 32 will be fine) that leaves a maximum of 16 GB of RAM. More DIMMS = slower performance. 2 each is the sweet spot.
Not True, You can go up to 32GB of RAM but the reason why it is only able to go up to 32 is because of the Motherboard, every Motherboard has a certain limitation to how much RAM it can hold up before the system becoming unstable so the Mac Pro goes up to 32GB of RAM before becoming unstable
lol 32 ram i dont need that 4gb enough for now lol and i think alot of ppl think like me and i dont have a mac pro i have just a game pc that siply powns the mac
i must add that this does NOT mean the OS itself will support the Ram amount, the OS can limit the amount of addressable ram, but what i have sed above is the math view on the capability's of the 64 bit bus
yea if the mac pro supports 32gigs of ram than the address bus is a 38bit bus. i wasn't figuring the OS into that i was figuring a full 64bit address buss which no PC has *yet* lol
There are 8 GB ECC RAM modules since at least 7 months like Kingston ValueRAM DIMM 8GB PC2-5300R reg ECC CL5 (DDR2-667) (KVR667D2D4P5/8G) (about 8 months after your video :) ). But the Intel-S5000XVN-Motherboard can only handle 32GB. Up to now, there is still no Intel workstationboard which can handel 64Gb Ram. (There are server boards, like those with the i5400 chipset, capable to handel 64 Gb, but no workstation boards.)
once you go past 4 gigs of ram its almost pointless to go more unless your running tri channel or you do a real lot of photoshop and applications like that
Hi. I have a mac pro 2.88 mhz 8 core. Is the hardware of the 3.2 the same exact thing as the 2.88 with a limiter of the mhz in software or do they limit the mhz with hardware on the motherboard or processor? I know this is off the topic but it seems like you know alot about macs. Do you overclock? Could it damage the computer even if your mac stays at a cool temp? Thanks
search on google for overclocking the mac pro then you will find a program to overclock your mac pro then you can overclock it to the 3.2ghz but don't put it all the way up then it will go to hot
Yes but it is common sense. Each core in any computer by default supports 4GB of ram. If there is 8 core in a computer, multiply 8 by 4 and you get 32. So even if it didn't say the back in the day it is common sense that it would work.
If you buy the video cards that Apple gives. I bought the cheapest video card and the least amount of Ram. Then I went to a computer ware house and bout 16gb worth of ram for like 1000 dollars (used of coarse) and I bought 9800Ultra (used) with 1GB of vram. It totaled to about 2000 unlike from apple it would be 5000 dollars. I play Crysis at like 50FPS on high. The only thing I really maxxed from apple was the processor chip.
bullshit your cpu will blow up... mac users dont know shit about rams! only pc's can handle 32 gb of ram... if you have intel core 2 extreme cpu.. which costs over 1500$ you can have 32 gb of ram
Where are you from? MacOSX can easily support up to 32gb of ram. Each core runs 4gb. 8 by 4 is 32. It works. I have 1GB of 9800ultra and 16gb of ram. it doesn't blow up at all. I don't know where the jesus you get your facts. I play crysis at 50 fps on high settings. What planet are you from? Christ kid, think before you talk.
no add that to the asus board that supports 64GB of RAM and two corei7 960 then 3 GTX280 in SLi and overclocked everything and it would be still cheaper than FUCKING MAC PRO SUCK DICKS BITCHEZ
Before i got my mac pro i thought this guy was wrong. I bought a mac pro and added 4 4gb sticks on one R tray leaving me with one more tray to put 4 more 4gb sticks. The apple store confirms that it does take up to 32gb of ram. Is it necessary? No but, it is nice to have. Do some research before you leave an offensive remark. I am sure your parents taught you to be respectful. I guess we will find out when you respond to me.
However, every motherboard has a limit. I don't know the limit of the macpro, but I'm pretty sure when 8GB sticks come out, it won't be able to recognize it.
osx leopard can utilize 8 gigs and way more. And as for usefulness, probably not if you're doing photoshop work or whatever. But for video editing it's nice. And also for music production. If you are using some of those HUGE sample libraries, like pianos with 8 velocity layers and so forth, they take a lot of ram, and if you want to run multiple instances of them, tons of ram will come in handy.
Also, down the line, 8 gigs of ram isn't going to be much.. So the upgradability is nice.
It's all to do with the OS. If your OS can use a lot of ram, yeah I say ram lol
I use 8 gigs in my Mac, I use 3 gigs on my PC
I use CS3 a great deal, DW,PS etc On my Mac never pushed more than 6 gigs at Max, and I was pushing it. The PC, I'd love to be able to use 4 gigs or more. But Windows 32bit don't see more than 3.5, and no, I don't like 64 bit Windows.
nobody needs a mac pro lol. it is ridiculous. my dads friend has three and hes a stock broker. the only time you might need it is if you have a server going, are editing 10 movies, and photoshopping a few thousand pictures, playing a highly intense game, watching a movie, recording a movie, and writing a thesis all at once. for all else, the imac is more than powerful enough.
but the question is how much of the RAM can actually be used by the 64bit mac? Like i remeber someone saying that the 32bit xp could only use at most about 4gigs.
its not really that hard to find out. if the os is 32bit the equation is (2^32)/(1024^3) = 4 GB of addressable memory, (this does not mean that a 32bit os can only handle 4 gig of memory, because 32bit windows advanced server can handle up to 16, im not sure how they achieve this, voodoo i guess) so if the os is 64bit the sum goes like this
(2^63)/(1024^3)=17179869184 GB (yes my math is right), obviosly thats not realistic. but the math mans out like that.
hell i didnt i know there was a whole mathematical formula to figure it out O_o Although i get most of the formula i dont get the power of 3 part? mmm... gues my next rig may be a 64bit although probably not a mac :P
okay, so its not that hard. when you devide 1024 is the base, and its power is the units, 1 would be kilo, 1 mega, and 3 GB then 4= terra. you can to it with base 1000, and i think google does it that way. but use 1024 if you want to be precise.
You cannot use a formula like that to determine the maximum amount of ram. The processor has both data lines and address lines. The data lines are 32 or 64 bits but that doesn't state how many address lines there are.
Even if the CPU had a specific number of addressing bits, that doesn't necessarily mean that the motherboard connects all of them, all of them go to the ram controller, etc. Also, it's typical to have fewer address lines than what is possible to address in memory due to paging.
@mp33pm: if you look when this video was posted, it was in 2007...before the new Mac Pro configurations came out in 2008. At the time Apple did only allow 16GB via the store. Don't be so quick to jump on people.
Yeah! that's actually the only point of getting a mac pro! and of corse for all the CAD programms and stuff...i hate seeing all the liitle kids unboxing their mac pro they got from their parents! WHY THE HELL WOULD THE NEED A MAC PRO? my computer can beat a mac pro in games but no computer can beat it in CAD or other stuff!
32GB of RAM is enormous! i've just been playing around in the apple website store with the mac pro options, i took all the expensive stuffs and the price was 25,000$ haha
As you may probably know, even if the architecture of the Xeon Woodcrest made it a full 64-bit processor, the chipset still used 32 bit.
And now, with Santa Rosa and Montevina, Intel gave Apple the possibilty to remap the MMIO. Do you remember that strange "3 Gb limit" on MacBooks? Well, it was due to the 3.2 Gb MMIO limit.
Never mind: Santa Rosa is 64-bit and Leopard is 64-bit. That's an M$'s problem. :P
ps With PowerPC maybe this wouldn't happen, but now everything works fine.
Actually Mac OS X can virtually handle 16TB of RAM, but Intel chipsets prior to Montevina had a problem due to something called MMIO; in simple words, for every 4 Gb of RAM, the chipset could address just 3.2 Gb.
Of course Apple fixed it as soon as it could, Microsoft didn't fix it, plus for people with a GPU with +512Mb of dedicated RAM, for every 4 Gb Windows can adress just 2.3 Gb.
Now with Montevina and Leopard, Intel solved the problem with Apple. Now you can address 4Gb on 4 Gb.
HD video editing requires a lot of ram. Usually to process RAW HD files that is only 20 minutes long, it takes over 250gb of space. So the more RAM you have the faster it will process.
i woud only pay that for a pc orr mac if it was holding a business like really big business but yeh i think ym limit i would pay is 3k maybe thats still too much
Obviously YOU don't know why 32Gb is necessary, otherwise you wouldn't have asked. Obviously there are PLENTY of people who DO need it (3D Rendering, 3DS Max, Maya etc etc) or to run OSX Server... otherwise it wouldn't have that capability, would it?. Try broadening your horizons, and reducing the "lol" comments. :)
32GB is unnecessary. I'll set ya' a challenge should I? Go buy one with 32GB of RAM and see if you can even use 40% of it, never mind the full. I find it amusing that someone would pay that amount of money for 32GB of RAM & a PC
Name me "plenty of people who DO need it" please. I'll get in contact with, visit their home, and test your theory.
"or to run OSX Server"
I'm was talking about HOME USAGE.
Also, I didn't ask YOU anything. If you had Common sense, you'd understand why I put "lol"
Dude, that is partially "inaaaaacurate." Certain motherboards can only support up to 32 gb, or 8 gb, or 16gb, whatever. 64 bit os' support a lot (I think 128) but the motherboard is limited by how much the northbridge supports.
Uhhh Dude...each processor core is limited to 4GB of RAM each. so 16GB max in a 4 core, 32GB in an 8 core. What your saying, at the time you were saying it, is incorrect. Might be a good idea to take this video down or update it.
LOL, do you know what you're talking about ? First, there's 4GB limit that can be addressed on 32bit system (minus space for AGP and other busses). Then, there's the limit of the north-bridge which doesn't have much overhead on cheaper consumer systems...like iMacs and portables.
i think the source of the confusion is that the 16gb configuration was the maximum on the 4 core mac pro. apple clearly state that the 8 core machine can take 'up to 32gb'.
well, for starters i hate you for having such an awesome machine hehe. secondly, please tell me that "running games like a pc" is not the primary purpose that you bought it!!! Please tell me you spent that kind of money to manipulate visual or audio of some kind??? If not, I have a nice intel dual core PC laptop with 2gb ram that runs any game you want like a dream you can have & i'll take the mac pro off your hands hehe.
i feel sorry for you because you bought the ram from apple! Apple Mac pro with 4 15000rpm drives two 3.2ghz cpus, quadro 1.5gb vid card, stock 2gb ram and apple care is only 10,748.00 minus tax if you buy the ram from newegg about $2500 for 32GB of ram and the system comes to about 14 grand which is 10 grand cheaper than yours!
U do not need 32 or 64 GB of fucking ram
4-8 GB is enough dam...
xwolf4502 1 month ago
It supports 64 gigs of ram if you go on the website maybe even more
clefable37 3 months ago
if you got 2 slots you can put i n up to 16gb ddr3 1600 ( even if they are running at 1333)
UnkownName321123 4 months ago
@youtubeteam :D fix all the bugs ^^
UnkownName321123 4 months ago
0 video ???? wtf ???
TheYounesbrko 4 months ago 3
lame and gay
Jubukio 5 months ago
couldnt agree more , my macbook apple says maxes out at 2gb, well guess what its running 4 right now, and apple said that my logic board was bad, turns out they were wrong about that too, sometimes i wonder about Apple
impactsangle 5 months ago
now can someone tell me why would someone need 32 gigs of ram? if you barely use 8 or 16 you will NOT not notice the difference between 16 and 32.
WXIIIR 6 months ago
Whats with all the Odd Ram numbers!
You have 5GB
and your mate 9GB WTF!
EyesOnMeStudios 7 months ago
64 now. on the 8 core model only.
LordsOfMinecraft 8 months ago
Kids a idiot, motherboards have a ram limit fucktart. The usual for max ram is 24 gb
MrNukesftw 8 months ago
@MrNukesftw they have a limit yes, usually wrong though.
WXIIIR 6 months ago
@WXIIIR What? Usually wrong? I don't know what you mean. The mac pro uses a mobo that in theory could support 4 x 8 sticks
MrNukesftw 6 months ago
0 videos???
MysticalOrca 9 months ago 24
@MysticalOrca yeah he deleted his account but the videos still remain
pkerry12 7 months ago
@MysticalOrca Youtube Fail.
TheAverythomas01 5 months ago
Is this a comedy channel?
SuperDuke8888 9 months ago 11
make more video
thomasmovesinc 11 months ago
@chickenttt You have to remember when he posted this video. It was true at the time.
compos24 11 months ago
is he speaking english?
bobdole424242 1 year ago
what is suxteen gugs?
What's a 4 gug chup?
wildlite 1 year ago
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this is fuck shit,!
your are fuck asshol
mother fucker
TheWestRest 1 year ago
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this is fuck shit,!
your are fuck asshole
TheWestRest 1 year ago
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this is fuck shit,!
TheWestRest 1 year ago
be ncie to him god hes jsut trying to help ppl retards i cant stand ppl calling ppl noobs and dicks it gets anoying
hajcutie1 1 year ago
The new Mac Pro supports 64GB.
MBP6705 1 year ago
your a dick because u tlked 2 us the entire video bitch show me your mac or sum not u dumb bitch
terrelldaniel 1 year ago
What a dick!
Dizzle7771 1 year ago
I refuse to lectured by this moron.
y4m0m 1 year ago
wow alot of dumbshit posts by windows users
GTSRBOY 1 year ago
Look not everybody needs a lot of ram. If you surf the net and write emails, yeah don't waste your money. If you are a professional and work with media RAM is extremely important if you don't want to spend you're entire life rendering. Why do y'all talk about your own needs like its everyone else's too.
AshkenazLive 1 year ago
@AshkenazLive WHAT THE FUCK WHY ARE YOU EVEN FUCKING WATCHING THIS VIDEO IF YOU DONT CARE ABOUT DOING ANYTHING ON YOUR COMPUTER?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
tallyhoman911 1 year ago
what third parties supply extra gigs and RAM into the mac pro
alanbstard4 1 year ago
i use 2 gigs of ram for my windows 7 gaming pc, and it never uses more than 1.5 gigs, YOU DONT NEED SO MUCH FKING RAM!
ShervinGetOffMee 1 year ago
@ShervinGetOffMee i agree you just need a good processor
MrFaradinho 1 year ago
We do animation and motion graphic it is very important for us to maximize on ram. 32 gigabytes of ram is not for your average mac user. You wouldn't know what to do with it. You wouldnt need it. For a creative agency like us we live for ram. What I want to know is whether adding 32 gigs of ram will give your mac pro complications. What I mean is, will it give you problems not reading all the ram. I am using Flash Pro, Photoshop, Cinema 4d, After Effects all at the same time.
fabbgroup 1 year ago
16 gb of ram.. 32gb of ram.. waste of money.. why? pop in 8gb and oc them to run at 2400mhz and u got a fast machine.
AlenxChloex 1 year ago
there not chips there dimms dumb ass
wxmt85 1 year ago
you dont know how to add
TheRchelicopter 1 year ago
currently if you go on the site and custom make your mac pro you can choose 32gb of ram
b4567890 1 year ago
are you reading something?
ViRg089 1 year ago
From what I understand, the Mac Pro 1,1... from 2006, will only recognize 16Gb of RAM, even if you install 32GB.
I don't know this for a fact, but from what I've understood in the past, the motherboard has a limit.
The newer mac pro models will most likely accept larger numbers.
For now, I'm satisfied with my 5Gb of RAM.
Maybe someone could shed some light on my guesses here.
DrSmaggs 1 year ago
Let Me explain somehting to you all. The Mac Pro works best with 16 Gb, and let me explain why. Because the mac pro ram is FB DIMM's and they are on riser cards, and latency taken into account, the mac pro works best with 2 RAM sticks onto each riser card, and with 4 GB sticks (all that's currently available, and when 8 GB sticks come out, THEN 32 will be fine) that leaves a maximum of 16 GB of RAM. More DIMMS = slower performance. 2 each is the sweet spot.
KingofComputing 1 year ago
he is telling the truth
GRINDSHINETV 1 year ago
eight not AAAAAAITTTTTE
L1SE19 1 year ago
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i'd like to know so much, what mainboard is inside. that must be a giant powerfull board, with giant dimensions.
visornet24 2 years ago
apple do now say 32gb on there site, well at least they do on the aus store
InderpendantTV 2 years ago
they say that in the us store but only the 8 core not the quad core
invertminiguy08 1 year ago
32 gb ram.. i could run ANYTHING with NOOOOOOO FUCKING LAGGGGGG!@@!@@!@!
dhrocks4life 2 years ago
soon itll be standard in laptops technology advances so quickly
trickedmega1 2 years ago
Not True, You can go up to 32GB of RAM but the reason why it is only able to go up to 32 is because of the Motherboard, every Motherboard has a certain limitation to how much RAM it can hold up before the system becoming unstable so the Mac Pro goes up to 32GB of RAM before becoming unstable
Jacobianiemann 2 years ago
lol 32 ram i dont need that 4gb enough for now lol and i think alot of ppl think like me and i dont have a mac pro i have just a game pc that siply powns the mac
MrJordiR 2 years ago
from the mathematical view 32 is not the limit of a 64 bit OS
2^64=18446744073709551616
or roughly 18.4 Exabytes
psx2p 3 years ago
i must add that this does NOT mean the OS itself will support the Ram amount, the OS can limit the amount of addressable ram, but what i have sed above is the math view on the capability's of the 64 bit bus
psx2p 3 years ago
@psx2p This is just how much is supported by the motherboard not the OS
jekproductions154 2 years ago
yea if the mac pro supports 32gigs of ram than the address bus is a 38bit bus. i wasn't figuring the OS into that i was figuring a full 64bit address buss which no PC has *yet* lol
psx2p 2 years ago
remember Macs back in 1998 having 64MB of RAM? and then 128MB of RAM? well, thats whats happening now, soon we will see 512GB of RAM!
EuroCarfan00 3 years ago
ur an idiot. No offence
MacAppsFree 2 years ago
he is right
ilovedell123456789 3 years ago
yeah i am totally against apple's tax. your top specs computer will surely be much cheaper than mac pro and makes a nice gaming rig.
CLUBPENGUINBOT 3 years ago
There are 8 GB ECC RAM modules since at least 7 months like Kingston ValueRAM DIMM 8GB PC2-5300R reg ECC CL5 (DDR2-667) (KVR667D2D4P5/8G) (about 8 months after your video :) ). But the Intel-S5000XVN-Motherboard can only handle 32GB. Up to now, there is still no Intel workstationboard which can handel 64Gb Ram. (There are server boards, like those with the i5400 chipset, capable to handel 64 Gb, but no workstation boards.)
essentialuncertainty 3 years ago
lol 8g memory sticks in 8 months
tobyqwaszx 3 years ago
ON THE WEBSITE IT SAYS 32 ANYWAY
nylecrane2k7 3 years ago
but besides macs are overpriced anyways
typingpong 3 years ago
once you go past 4 gigs of ram its almost pointless to go more unless your running tri channel or you do a real lot of photoshop and applications like that
typingpong 3 years ago
Hi. I have a mac pro 2.88 mhz 8 core. Is the hardware of the 3.2 the same exact thing as the 2.88 with a limiter of the mhz in software or do they limit the mhz with hardware on the motherboard or processor? I know this is off the topic but it seems like you know alot about macs. Do you overclock? Could it damage the computer even if your mac stays at a cool temp? Thanks
zamil25 3 years ago
search on google for overclocking the mac pro then you will find a program to overclock your mac pro then you can overclock it to the 3.2ghz but don't put it all the way up then it will go to hot
vlekkietwinnie 3 years ago
you can because on the website you can rder them with 32GB of RAM
shaunpoo2 3 years ago
we all know that now, but this video was posted a year ago.
ExpensiveMac 3 years ago
Yes but it is common sense. Each core in any computer by default supports 4GB of ram. If there is 8 core in a computer, multiply 8 by 4 and you get 32. So even if it didn't say the back in the day it is common sense that it would work.
russianartist 3 years ago
The Mac Pro will run Crysis at 32 frames per second!
anon540 3 years ago
If you buy the video cards that Apple gives. I bought the cheapest video card and the least amount of Ram. Then I went to a computer ware house and bout 16gb worth of ram for like 1000 dollars (used of coarse) and I bought 9800Ultra (used) with 1GB of vram. It totaled to about 2000 unlike from apple it would be 5000 dollars. I play Crysis at like 50FPS on high. The only thing I really maxxed from apple was the processor chip.
russianartist 3 years ago
bullshit your cpu will blow up... mac users dont know shit about rams! only pc's can handle 32 gb of ram... if you have intel core 2 extreme cpu.. which costs over 1500$ you can have 32 gb of ram
numb416 3 years ago
Where are you from? MacOSX can easily support up to 32gb of ram. Each core runs 4gb. 8 by 4 is 32. It works. I have 1GB of 9800ultra and 16gb of ram. it doesn't blow up at all. I don't know where the jesus you get your facts. I play crysis at 50 fps on high settings. What planet are you from? Christ kid, think before you talk.
russianartist 3 years ago
no add that to the asus board that supports 64GB of RAM and two corei7 960 then 3 GTX280 in SLi and overclocked everything and it would be still cheaper than FUCKING MAC PRO SUCK DICKS BITCHEZ
saintlavin 3 years ago
Are you on purpose showing how exactly stupid and idiotic you are?
russianartist 3 years ago
Before i got my mac pro i thought this guy was wrong. I bought a mac pro and added 4 4gb sticks on one R tray leaving me with one more tray to put 4 more 4gb sticks. The apple store confirms that it does take up to 32gb of ram. Is it necessary? No but, it is nice to have. Do some research before you leave an offensive remark. I am sure your parents taught you to be respectful. I guess we will find out when you respond to me.
zamil25 3 years ago
What are you talking about?
russianartist 3 years ago
I have 12GB
axmatt 3 years ago
However, every motherboard has a limit. I don't know the limit of the macpro, but I'm pretty sure when 8GB sticks come out, it won't be able to recognize it.
Sidewaysbox 3 years ago
That must be why people put 32GB of ram on their mac pro. :)
CJackSparrow79 3 years ago
8gigs is waay more than enough.. And I dont think the Mac OS even utilizes that much RAM memory.. So pretty much pointless :)
YazNbk 3 years ago
osx leopard can utilize 8 gigs and way more. And as for usefulness, probably not if you're doing photoshop work or whatever. But for video editing it's nice. And also for music production. If you are using some of those HUGE sample libraries, like pianos with 8 velocity layers and so forth, they take a lot of ram, and if you want to run multiple instances of them, tons of ram will come in handy.
Also, down the line, 8 gigs of ram isn't going to be much.. So the upgradability is nice.
ronnysoeberg 3 years ago
Yeah but I like to have that much. I'd just do to a used computer ware house and buy bunch of cheap hardware. Works just as good.
russianartist 3 years ago
who needs that much ram?
like 5 g's is good.
geeks...
ipoddrummer 3 years ago
Show me.
blsixty9 3 years ago
32gig is like the speed of light
SHAYrTARD 3 years ago
nobody needs 16 or 32 gigs.
4l3k 3 years ago
Dude ... edit some extensive video with Final Cut, and you'll see the need for 16+ GB.
timwarneka 3 years ago
with 32 gigs? how fast is it?
hoonathan 3 years ago
Okeay mite, I'll geev it a goeeh.
hartistry1957 3 years ago
HOLY SHIT
xn117 3 years ago
It's all to do with the OS. If your OS can use a lot of ram, yeah I say ram lol
I use 8 gigs in my Mac, I use 3 gigs on my PC
I use CS3 a great deal, DW,PS etc On my Mac never pushed more than 6 gigs at Max, and I was pushing it. The PC, I'd love to be able to use 4 gigs or more. But Windows 32bit don't see more than 3.5, and no, I don't like 64 bit Windows.
StevePirillo 3 years ago
u can put 32gb and it says that on apple website
954yglw 3 years ago
i just bought a new macbook pro today and its fine. i have a review/unboxing up if you wanna see it.
coolerdude44 3 years ago
nobody needs a mac pro lol. it is ridiculous. my dads friend has three and hes a stock broker. the only time you might need it is if you have a server going, are editing 10 movies, and photoshopping a few thousand pictures, playing a highly intense game, watching a movie, recording a movie, and writing a thesis all at once. for all else, the imac is more than powerful enough.
coolerdude44 3 years ago
you do not need 64GB of memory unless your running a virtual porn ring
8bitmix 3 years ago
thats funny, bill gates was quoted sating something similar and he failed.....
avansc 3 years ago
HEHE its true
8bitmix 3 years ago
but the question is how much of the RAM can actually be used by the 64bit mac? Like i remeber someone saying that the 32bit xp could only use at most about 4gigs.
chubz1337 3 years ago
its not really that hard to find out. if the os is 32bit the equation is (2^32)/(1024^3) = 4 GB of addressable memory, (this does not mean that a 32bit os can only handle 4 gig of memory, because 32bit windows advanced server can handle up to 16, im not sure how they achieve this, voodoo i guess) so if the os is 64bit the sum goes like this
(2^63)/(1024^3)=17179869184 GB (yes my math is right), obviosly thats not realistic. but the math mans out like that.
avansc 3 years ago
hell i didnt i know there was a whole mathematical formula to figure it out O_o Although i get most of the formula i dont get the power of 3 part? mmm... gues my next rig may be a 64bit although probably not a mac :P
chubz1337 3 years ago
okay, so its not that hard. when you devide 1024 is the base, and its power is the units, 1 would be kilo, 1 mega, and 3 GB then 4= terra. you can to it with base 1000, and i think google does it that way. but use 1024 if you want to be precise.
avansc 3 years ago
You cannot use a formula like that to determine the maximum amount of ram. The processor has both data lines and address lines. The data lines are 32 or 64 bits but that doesn't state how many address lines there are.
Even if the CPU had a specific number of addressing bits, that doesn't necessarily mean that the motherboard connects all of them, all of them go to the ram controller, etc. Also, it's typical to have fewer address lines than what is possible to address in memory due to paging.
cengland000 3 years ago
i actually just meant in theory. but anyways.
avansc 3 years ago
if I have an apple with like 32GB of ram, can I run windows on bootcamp?
Guster47 3 years ago
you can run windows on boot camp with like 4 GB
gmanist1000 3 years ago
"Apple" isn't saying that you can only have 16GB of RAM. Build a new Mac Pro on the store and you'll see that there's an option of UP TO 32GB.
mp33pm 3 years ago
@mp33pm: if you look when this video was posted, it was in 2007...before the new Mac Pro configurations came out in 2008. At the time Apple did only allow 16GB via the store. Don't be so quick to jump on people.
Mewisonfire 3 years ago
Future is probaly running a HDD drive as Ram.
And sata drive for harddrive. :)
killervalonz 3 years ago
yaa i was thinking about that lol
Zatch93013 3 years ago
How high you think you could go with a regular macbook with leopard?
mrmatt2981 3 years ago
2 gigs, lol..
entangalo 3 years ago
I use 32 gigs of ram for video editing. Uncompressed hd video uses 32 gigs of ram easy!
Bingoyoyo 3 years ago
Yeah! that's actually the only point of getting a mac pro! and of corse for all the CAD programms and stuff...i hate seeing all the liitle kids unboxing their mac pro they got from their parents! WHY THE HELL WOULD THE NEED A MAC PRO? my computer can beat a mac pro in games but no computer can beat it in CAD or other stuff!
germandude1982 3 years ago
or even better and cheaper , use a dell that has 64 gigs of ram and dual 5600fx's in sli , twice the performance of apples top end mac pro
girlsdrinkfeck 3 years ago
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Dipshit, you still can't use 32 gigs with that operating system anyway.
dboyzetown 3 years ago
go on mac site u dipstick it says there
quickstart20o7 3 years ago
cant wait to get the mac pro
seepauliedie 3 years ago 2
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W.e I don't care, my PC has 64 Gigs of Ram.
jrtwothreeninesix 3 years ago
almost as worthless as having 64 gigs of ram flushed down the toilet. :) you know im right.
seepauliedie 3 years ago 4
not when u run 64 bit Windows
EliteSoldier112 3 years ago
Or just OSX which is 64bit
ugp4130 3 years ago
you don't need 16 gigs of ram nor 32 gigs of ram its pretty much not necessary harry potter you should stick tea and crumpets XD
XxViciousxX 3 years ago 7
@XxViciousxX Big mistake to say that... wait until 2015.
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tctennis12 1 year ago
@XxViciousxX He's Australian not English dumbass.
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tctennis12 1 year ago
@XxViciousxX yeah rely you only need like 6GB to 12GB
wxmt85 1 year ago
32GB of RAM is enormous! i've just been playing around in the apple website store with the mac pro options, i took all the expensive stuffs and the price was 25,000$ haha
i'm sure some old rich people bought some. ugh
stylez59 3 years ago 2
Now it says 32GB a year later....
HEARTLESS4JG 3 years ago
my-pc-ram-is-12gb
mithulan2008 3 years ago
dude the mac pro can hold whatever you put in it but your os will nor support it snow leapord will be able to support it
jorgeapariciosuarez 3 years ago
My system can remap the MMIO! Yours can't, you fucking PC users! Stay with 3.2 Gigs, you fucker, stay! :D
I love UNIX and the way Intel and Apple cooperate.
Mac OS X PWNS Windows
applerulez67 3 years ago
As you may probably know, even if the architecture of the Xeon Woodcrest made it a full 64-bit processor, the chipset still used 32 bit.
And now, with Santa Rosa and Montevina, Intel gave Apple the possibilty to remap the MMIO. Do you remember that strange "3 Gb limit" on MacBooks? Well, it was due to the 3.2 Gb MMIO limit.
Never mind: Santa Rosa is 64-bit and Leopard is 64-bit. That's an M$'s problem. :P
ps With PowerPC maybe this wouldn't happen, but now everything works fine.
applerulez67 3 years ago
Actually Mac OS X can virtually handle 16TB of RAM, but Intel chipsets prior to Montevina had a problem due to something called MMIO; in simple words, for every 4 Gb of RAM, the chipset could address just 3.2 Gb.
Of course Apple fixed it as soon as it could, Microsoft didn't fix it, plus for people with a GPU with +512Mb of dedicated RAM, for every 4 Gb Windows can adress just 2.3 Gb.
Now with Montevina and Leopard, Intel solved the problem with Apple. Now you can address 4Gb on 4 Gb.
applerulez67 3 years ago
lol 64 gigs
HearMeNow13 3 years ago
Now what the fuck would you do with 64 GB of RAM? That's 1/4 of my hard drive.
RocketCarProductions 3 years ago 2
HD video editing requires a lot of ram. Usually to process RAW HD files that is only 20 minutes long, it takes over 250gb of space. So the more RAM you have the faster it will process.
crispindogs4 3 years ago
You have a 250Gb drive?... you are stuck in the past!. No wonder you cannot fathom out why!.
unlokia 3 years ago
hey i just checked the Mac store and they have 8 GIG ram but its $2,399 just for one.
snareman5s 3 years ago
Why would you need 32GB? I think the max anyone would ever need should be like 10. lmfao.
AggroHearts 3 years ago
Render farms and super computers. Most people will never spend that much or have that much ram. But companies that need power can get it.
avelx 3 years ago
not really... i would need about 30 XD
patrickkroell 3 years ago
I added all the top features. It says it will cost just under £15,000 LOL
Eggyrocks1 3 years ago
Lol i done that my dad saw that and just said "fucking hell"
feverofhell2 3 years ago
I would never pay £15,000 for a computer, even if it was a MAC. I mean, who would need 32GB of RAM lol
Eggyrocks1 3 years ago
i woud only pay that for a pc orr mac if it was holding a business like really big business but yeh i think ym limit i would pay is 3k maybe thats still too much
feverofhell2 3 years ago
Obviously YOU don't know why 32Gb is necessary, otherwise you wouldn't have asked. Obviously there are PLENTY of people who DO need it (3D Rendering, 3DS Max, Maya etc etc) or to run OSX Server... otherwise it wouldn't have that capability, would it?. Try broadening your horizons, and reducing the "lol" comments. :)
unlokia 3 years ago
32GB is unnecessary. I'll set ya' a challenge should I? Go buy one with 32GB of RAM and see if you can even use 40% of it, never mind the full. I find it amusing that someone would pay that amount of money for 32GB of RAM & a PC
Name me "plenty of people who DO need it" please. I'll get in contact with, visit their home, and test your theory.
"or to run OSX Server"
I'm was talking about HOME USAGE.
Also, I didn't ask YOU anything. If you had Common sense, you'd understand why I put "lol"
Pfft.
Eggyrocks1 3 years ago
LOL! THat made me laugh. You have a very good point! 40% no way! 20 maybe!
amistrymister 3 years ago
Exactly.
Eggyrocks1 3 years ago
Exactly. Short and to the point lol. Erm yes...
amistrymister 3 years ago
I put in the most expensive options... was around 25k €. Or was it more?
You should see the price of an Xserve with the most expensive parts. around 90k.
Vyggy 3 years ago
the apple website now says 32gb as an option when you buy it
currystubbs123 3 years ago
Dude, that is partially "inaaaaacurate." Certain motherboards can only support up to 32 gb, or 8 gb, or 16gb, whatever. 64 bit os' support a lot (I think 128) but the motherboard is limited by how much the northbridge supports.
monkey120101 3 years ago
Uhhh Dude...each processor core is limited to 4GB of RAM each. so 16GB max in a 4 core, 32GB in an 8 core. What your saying, at the time you were saying it, is incorrect. Might be a good idea to take this video down or update it.
suf23 3 years ago
cool .. just got my dual quad core 2.8 ..
thanks for the info ..
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capo420420 3 years ago
4 core takes 16gb..... 8 core takes 32gb.
eyeflow9 3 years ago
well said
R4d1anc3 3 years ago
it is 32 gigs
f1racer3028 3 years ago
Serious/important question:
Does the mac pro ship with TWO RAM CARDS regardless of how little ram you buy initially?
chikotube 3 years ago
yes, the minimum configuration you can get for RAM on the mac pro is 2x1GB cards
nameunkowntoyou 3 years ago
i bet its still slow.
dackjaniels555 3 years ago
You can put as much ram as you want on any computer. After 16 gigs of ram you will need 2 processors.
xstream82 3 years ago
LOL, do you know what you're talking about ? First, there's 4GB limit that can be addressed on 32bit system (minus space for AGP and other busses). Then, there's the limit of the north-bridge which doesn't have much overhead on cheaper consumer systems...like iMacs and portables.
modrak 3 years ago
i think the source of the confusion is that the 16gb configuration was the maximum on the 4 core mac pro. apple clearly state that the 8 core machine can take 'up to 32gb'.
eyeflow9 3 years ago
thanks for the fantastic info on the MacPro
harryboardman 3 years ago
I maxxed out a macpro that costed around $24,000 and there is no lag, beachball of death, lack of memory and it runs games like a pc.
sidekick3iskool 3 years ago
well, for starters i hate you for having such an awesome machine hehe. secondly, please tell me that "running games like a pc" is not the primary purpose that you bought it!!! Please tell me you spent that kind of money to manipulate visual or audio of some kind??? If not, I have a nice intel dual core PC laptop with 2gb ram that runs any game you want like a dream you can have & i'll take the mac pro off your hands hehe.
eyeflow9 3 years ago
It is also used for music production and professional recording.
sidekick3iskool 3 years ago
i feel sorry for you because you bought the ram from apple! Apple Mac pro with 4 15000rpm drives two 3.2ghz cpus, quadro 1.5gb vid card, stock 2gb ram and apple care is only 10,748.00 minus tax if you buy the ram from newegg about $2500 for 32GB of ram and the system comes to about 14 grand which is 10 grand cheaper than yours!
StevedMac 3 years ago
I really don't care.
sidekick3iskool 3 years ago
I just got an iMac for the Windows games. Only problem is that it heats my room to 32°.