Its not who is better. Its who sounds better to YOUR ear. Both are beyond skilled and sounds amazing. As for me choosing which one of the two I prefer to listen to. Carey. Without question. Could be because I rather listen to Tool than Dream Theater.
Portnoy is an excellant technical drummer(another one) and we're all lucky 2 have him.BUT,Carey is on a totally different plane.Danny's technical abiblities go w/out saying,it's his approach and creativity and final work in all it's breadth and scope that makes this no contest. Carey dominates the competition.
And yes you may think what I said is confusing by saying I do not agree with the comment on Mike Portnoy being selfish in his playing but no what I meant was yes his playing is selfish just like everyone elses is selfish. I mean I do not agree to just single him out as selfish. Thank you ;)
I agree all will have a different opinion but I will not agree with immature comments as Mike Portnoy's playing is selfish. We are all selfish unless we become robots with no desires. Oh by the way Mike Portnoy all the way!
A lot of you are just tools...yes pun intended. How can you say Mike is selfish with his playing? I have news for you people. Danny is selfish too and so are all musicians cause if they were not selfish they wouldn't play the damn instrument. Do you think these guys play because they have to? No they play cause they themselves love it...yep that is selfish. Which in turn makes us selfish for stating our opinions cause well it makes us happy.
@themusicman777 It doesn't take an idiot to understand what someone means by the word selfish being used in this context though. Just being extremely literal doesn't make someones stance on a subject more or less pointful, it just changes the point all together.
Comparing drummers at the level these guys are at is just fundamentally stupid. Why is the goal of every idiot in music to determine who is the best at every separate aspect of music?
I want to know when music stopped actually being about the music.
@projectbaum : have to agree with you here, music isn't a sport, it's one of the great things about it, end of the day there isn't any winners, i have to say though i prefer carey's drumming, the man is a genius, the guy is a master of playing within the context of a piece of music. i don't even know if thats a skill that can be thought.
So what you're saying is "I agree with you, but I'm going to go ahead and do it anyway?"
Just kidding, man. To each his own. They're both fantastic drummers, I'm sure they wouldn't be squabbling about this sort of thing. They're just happy to be making music, and we should all just be happy about the fact that they're making music.
@iWentToNam I do not really know anything about battery does not, but Mike knows and really, in fact better than two of us together and fuck hahahahah for you too ..
listen to his live solo in triad. It'll blow your mind. Danny Carey is the only drummer that i can listen to his solos and view them as music and enjoy them instead of just fast technical speed.
Even tho i like tools music better... portney's more technically skilled hands down.. careys are way more powerful tho.. depends on whats more important to you..
Tool no doubt, like ChAoTIC559 said Portnoy lacks the emotional part in playing he's come a long way but Carey has much better technique and skill. There's no doubt about it.
@imtallhaha Sorry Tool is nothing if you are comparing to Dream Theater!
Dream Theater is a new level, its above on music chain with more talent and technical musicians!
I like Tool and Like DT! But you cant compare Tool with DT! you just can't!
DT is a band that doesn't enjoy everybody but the best musicians like them and respect them and love their music! You saying that they are bullshit is nonsense! And your comment sucks not DT!
Man callate¡¡¡ Dream no tiene ni la mitad de talento que los de tool, portnoy es una maquina tecnica.
Dream teather no es otro nivel musical lo que pasa es que lo sigue gente como tu que escucha metalito barato y no saben de musica.. solo se emocionan con el Show y la rapides.. El Pretucci no tiene ni la mitad de expresión musical que tiene el guitarro de Tool.. John Myung es una maquina no dice nada.. el James LaBrie ni siquiera canta... Man ponte a escuchar mas musica....
@carearroz Otro pendejo más que cree que cuando alguien toca lento, está tocando con "sentimiento" y que un guitarrista o un bajista necesita hacer expersiones faciales para demostrar la emoción que sienten al estar tocando su música.
How could you judge based on a clip? These drummers both have incredible catalogs of beautiful music. In fact why would you want to judge one over the other? They are both great in different ways. I'm glad to have both.
K... i'm a big fan of both bands... but i think that portnoy is way better because of the variation in time signatures and techniques... that's so easy to tell, but i think i like tool a little more because of their hipnotics sounds :P
Carey's playing is more crafted to the needs of the song and demonstrates restraint, while Portnoy plays with a fusion-influenced sense of abandon in which EVERY drum part has to be THE BEST FUCKING DRUM PART EVER. Consequently, Portnoy's chops are much more evident than Carey's. Portnoy is a little more fun to watch and listen to--as are the other members of DT and LTE,--but that simply is a result of what kind of band he's playing in, kind of like comparing Moon and Bonham.
ok...man i don't have the possibility to show you my inability on drum...but the piece which showed here...i succeed to play it with facility...mike's piece not...if we speak about technique...there is not history...if we speak about feelings… you can be right.
Danny is far better than Mike, his playing on Lateralus sounded like he was ripping a hole in the universe. either way, Vinnie Colaiuta pwns them both with one hand.
It doesn't even take an experienced drummer(although it's an extreme advantage) to hear the difference between Carey and Portnoy.
Carey's drumming, although obviously technical and insanely skilled, involves so much more emotion than Portnoy's. His drumming is unselfish, and truly reinforces every song's intent. Portnoy is an great drummer, but his playing lacks the emotional attachment to each song that I believe Carey has.
Carey's strongest attribute is pure emotional creativity.
It's about making the complex simple..Danny Does this. Mike makes complexities and to hear him explain it...it's almost mathematical .....Though I do like Erotomania....the best..!
You'll find this odd I think you'll find Dream theater music is more unison music, pre arranged...structured. I've heard Portnoy do lick for lick not for note 97% the record. Everything is pre thought not extemporaneous, I hear Danny Carey and I feel and hear what he's doing on and off the Rhythym. The music is structured but he's a freerer creator to enhance the music. Danny's placement inspires..a deeper and approach and them to the entire composition. And he uses space like Miles Davis..
well theyre both great, i could never understand why everyone hates on Mike Portnoy...he's so good! I mean c'mon, he and Dream Theater met at Berklee School of Music...theres no way that he would be accepted into Berklee and suck, thats not possible. However, Danny Carey is more of my style, so i connect with Danny better than I do Mike.
i am shocked about how many carey votes there are i mean he is a great drummer but i mean come on portnoy has to memorize songs that are 15-20 minutes long with an abundance of drum solos and different drum patterns that are very difficult and he has to memorize all the odd time signatures in every single dream theater song. Carey is good but i mean there are only about 5 or 6 tool songs that really have troubled me to play and I know a lot of tool songs
While Danny certainly wins this in my opinion, I've still never heard a drummer song better than Panic Attack. While in most cases Portnoy has nothing on Carey, in this one song Dan has nothing on Mike.
@GodofReapers that is where you are wrong, two words "the Grudge". the amount of control in the earlier parts of the song and orgasmic ending is testament to Carey's playing. but I'm a guitarist so what do I know. ticks and leeches is the one that gets other people off but the grudge is the one that makes my face melt off.
her is the issue with desiding who is the best in anny instrument, the issue is that everyone has a different defenition on good drummer. someone think Mike portnoy is the best because of his fills and double bass, while other people think Danny Carey because of his university as a drummer. so that why you really cant say ether that Mike Portnoy wins or that Danny Carey wins.
I say this one is too close to call. I love both. Danny does crazy stuff, but Mike does too. Danny has more enfluence in MY drumming because I like Tool more, but I realy can't say either way. : /
Danny was brutal when he was a freshman at UMKC. The places his musical conciousness have gone are far beyond what most of the rest of us can concieve of.
Danny Carey is easily the greatest drummer of all time now. Surpassing Neal Peart and Keith Moon. Danny isn't even as technical as people think. No other drummer has control he does. He can play his left foot & arm just as well as his right. And his odd-time polyrhythms and paradiddles are played without a single hitch. And I love the way he lets his drums sing.
@fu13c Nope. Not in a million years. Peart can't play multiple polyrhythms WITH paradiddles. Danny plays one set of paradiddles with one hand for god's sake. Neil has been surpassed already.
@HolyDeth peart could learn all of danny careys drum parts very easily ,i really like carey and portnoy but its stupid to compare them to neil peart, peart is the best end of story
@fu13c Was the best. Just like Hendrix was the best. Times change. Combine the odd-time signatures with the frequent polyrhythms played with Paradiddles... Peart would not be able to comprehend all of it. Danny is much more innovative as well. Even if Peart could partially play it, he'd be VERY sloppy. Danny has trained his left side just like his right.
@fu13c Don't even get into soloing. Danny's solos are beyond difficult. Peart just transitions quickly. Try Danny's tabla solo, or even his bass & drum solo in Rosetta Stoned. And let's not forget The Grudge. But that's just soloing.
@HolyDeth pearts solos are beyond difficult and there all better than any of careys solos,peart has written some of the best drum parts for songs of all time ,lets hear any drum part carey plays that even comes close to, tom sawyer ,2112 ,yyz, la villa strangiatto, caravan, the camera eye, cygnus x-1, etc, i can keep naming songs for hours lol
I am a big fan of these two drummers but if i had to rate them I would say Danny incorporates a fusion feel with his tricky hi hat patterns. Like the middle section of eulogy where he plays a 3 vs 4 feel. Danny is very creative in his approach to the drums. Now Mike plays with a technical heavy rock feel. I thing we have to look at here is how long and how many projects mike has been involved with. Not to mention playing in a band with petrucci, that dude is a guitar god.
These are my two favorite drummers from my two favorite bands, and here is how I see it, think of painting a great masterpiece. Portnoy uses all the colors to paint the piece, where as Carey can make the same piece with using just a few colors. In my bookm they will both still be my two favorites
@Zynpar09 Dude... how is Danny not more creative than Mike?
mike plays good shit, has his good fills, they all sound similar, like tom rolls after one another... Danny plays great shit, has good fills, they all (for most part) sound unique and different in their own way, and doesn't just do tom rolls after another....
Mike plays are a standard 4/4 timing... easy shit, i can do it and im a guitar player. Danny plays at different timings throughout one song. eg. verse-4/4 chorus-3/4... and so on
@SynX6661 "Mike plays are a standard 4/4 timing". Are you kidding me right now? Mike is an oddtime maniac, maybe you should listen to some of there songs? I have viewed both drummers and they are amazing, but before you make your judgements, get some facts. You're basing his skill on fills and timing, those are minor factors that make you a good drummer. And you brought false information to the table by saying Mike usually plays in 4/4 time, you couldn't of been more wrong with your statement.
@SynX6661 The only time Mike played in 4/4 timing was in the time he spent with Avenged Sevenfold. Which reading your handle, I'm inclined to think that's all you know of his drumming. Pull your head out of your ass and find REAL Mike Portnoy drums. As for who's better out of Mike & Danny... It's a personal preference thing. Both are flat out amazing. My vote goes to Portnoy... But I'm not going to damn anyone who says Carey.
@SynX6661 Woow 4/4? First of all there's nothing wrong with it, a good drummer can do wonders inside a 4/4, but Portnoy's a big user of 7/8, 5/4 and some times 9/12. He's got cool time signature stuff but does not abuse. It's not all about technique you know? It's creativity what matters, for example check how he builds up his sound: he plays lots of songs with the snare stick inverted and in LTE has a tom with a LP head to get a rare sound. Or just check his smaller side kit, pretty weird
@Zynpar09 LOL wtf, mike only has repeatative double bass fills with open hi-hat parts, ARE YOU SERIOUS MAN danny does african drums, tablas. open hi-hats in the weirdest times. holy shit man danny is way more creative and thats a fact not an opinion theres just way too much evidence to deny it.
@iWentToNam Perhaps Portnoy does do the sets of six fills and the quad fills a lot, but it sounds good and matches the music. But again, you're basing his creativity on his fills rather than looking at the bigger picture of everything he's done, whether it be lyrical writing, his insane grooves and oddtime signatures and his creative way of improving songs by a tremendous amount during a live performance.
@iWentToNam And yes, Carey does incorporate polyrhythms into his playing but with the amount of talent he has on the drumset he should be able to come up with some real unique grooves. Not saying his polyrhythm grooves are bad or not unique, they are absolutely unique and sound great, but i'm just saying that they can be at a much higher level with the amount of skill that he has on the drumset.
@Zynpar09 he has HEAPS of unique grooves. ok goo look up Danny Carey Triad 1. its my favourite piece of his. its very very VERY extremely hard. its just amazing
@Zynpar09 dude ur fucking stupid mike portnoy is just a faggit neil peart wannabe (more like never be) and dannycarey as a fucking drum god do u know how fucking hard it is to do one of his polyrhythems mike would cry before he could even try to attempt one
@cipher913 I was trying to have an intelligent argument with someone else until you sadly bud in with your very idiotic, yet amusing statement. First of all, your sentence doesn't make any sense, so clearly you're as dumb as a 10 year old kid. Second of all, you came into this argument with your own stupid opinion and zero facts to back it up. Lastly, don't ever comment on anything related to drumming because you clearly are a fucking idiot. Good day.
hey to all drummers and tools Fans, i ve just seen a band Live, LizZard, and this is about this girl, she is the durmmer of this band and seriously she...shred on drums, just take a look by yourself,
Although this is an old post from four years ago, Portnoy blows Carey away. Not even in the same league to compare. Stupid comparison to begin with..... I'm a drummer of 38 years, and basically Mike Portnoy has taken what Neil Peart did for the world of drums, and took precision and complex drumming to a whole new level unmatched by anyone today. The next two greatest drummers (currently playing) would have to be Thomas Lang and Mike Mangini. Portnoy is the best by far hands down.
my vote is for danny. also, this video starts his run at a shitty time because the part before this includes some gong playing where he does instantaneous stick changes to the gong mallet and back to the stick in an awesome and visually pleasing way. i've seen both drummers live and there is no contest at all, danny plays hard and smart.
@EggoMyLeggo7 Mike Portnoy is the songwriter of pretty much every great DT song along with Petrucci, he contributes a lot to the music. And he isn't a double bass freak, he makes a sober use of it and has cool patterns like in Under a Glass Moon or The Glass Prision
@fu13c Mike Portnoy is WAY too technical for my taste and Danny is very technical but he puts his feel into the music. He doesn't do what "fits" as Portnoy says, he puts his heart and soul into the music and plays with what comes to him, not what he plans to do. Music isn't technical, some the most famous and successful are strictly talented. Danny just happens to have talent AND technicality. Besides, Tool songs are written starting with Danny Carey and Justin Chancellor (bass). That says a lot
@EggoMyLeggo7 "he's a musician, not a drummer"... You mean besides the fact that Mike Portnoy does most of the arranging and production on the Dream Theater records, and sings. I mean, i personally think Carey is a better drummer... i think theres a lot of drummers better than MP. But dont dismiss him as "just a drummer".
@EggoMyLeggo7 definitely more than just a drummer; he elevates the mood and tone of the music. It feels like our American Idol culture sometimes only fixates on technical skill rather than creative skill, and thats what makes Tool stand out as a group
I know Mike Portnoy better than Danny Carey, and you probably know Danny Carrey better than Mike portnoy, so your opinion is biased, you should do more research on Mike Portnoy before you make this remark, you should also know that Danny Carey is definitely influenced by Mike Portnoy by some extent.
@noconflictbanana Danny Carey influenced by Mike Portnoy? Why, pray, would you believe that? Where do you hear that? I would say they are nothing alike, Carey being all about subtlety and restraint while Portnoy loves the grandiose and over-the-top.
Are u guys kidding?? Mike Portnoy is WAY overrated! Danny would kill him! (Any decent drummer can play simple double-bass incorporated fills!) -BTW, I am a fan of both DT as well as TOOL!
I wouldn't say either of them is better than the other, because i'm sure they could both play each others work, or at least cover it pretty well. But i'm a massive Tool fan, and I'd say I prefer Carey as a drummer..... in fact I would marry that man, so I could hear him drumming everyday <3
I not a Portnoy fanboy but he is playing time signatures that are ever changing in 15 minute songs. Just remembering a single song---forget playing it---remembering parts that never repeat is astonishing and is a talent that takes a particular musical genius.
Obviously Youtube is filled with compete idiots but this isnt even close--if you think Carey is better you just havnt listened to the best of Portnoy
@Rizzy55 The song Danny is playing has an incredible amount of musical theory in fact the Time signature is a Fibonacci sequence that can be graphed as a spiral.
I really dig Mike, and he is extremely good, but I prefer Danny. I think if Mike found a band that branched out a little bit more he would be a lot better. Even if just he and John left the band and started anew it would be good news for everyone.
Mike is amazing..don't get me wrong, but how can somebody possibly consider him to be a better drummer than Carey? Just listen to his poly-rhythms. It still gives me goosebumps to see him in action.
@Dufflad08 technical skill? there are better arguments you could have made for portnoy. danny carey has played every type of music since he was a kid. He even plays tabla drums (which include time signatures up to 108 beats long!!) carey is the epitome of technical skill and discipline. it's why he sounds so unique. portnoy is self-taught and his style consists mainly of super fast single strokes, which anyone can do with enough physical training and hand eye coordination.
Its not who is better. Its who sounds better to YOUR ear. Both are beyond skilled and sounds amazing. As for me choosing which one of the two I prefer to listen to. Carey. Without question. Could be because I rather listen to Tool than Dream Theater.
dfahey154 6 days ago
Carey.
Celt64 3 weeks ago
Carey
wojpyz 1 month ago
I like them both.
337camo 1 month ago
Carey
vandenbulckedavid 1 month ago
Carey!
Bgee134 1 month ago
@crazytrain58 He WAS from Dream Theater. I'm not sure what band he's in now or if he is even in a band
ferdalizer1297 3 months ago
I have heard of Mike portnoy before what band is he? I'm sure I will feel stupid for asking and I do....
crazytrain58 4 months ago
@crazytrain58 Dream Theater, Avenged Sevenfold.
Alfiee91 1 week ago
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you didn't give mike that much of a chance haha
snaresgonewild 4 months ago
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snaresgonewild 4 months ago
Portnoy is an excellant technical drummer(another one) and we're all lucky 2 have him.BUT,Carey is on a totally different plane.Danny's technical abiblities go w/out saying,it's his approach and creativity and final work in all it's breadth and scope that makes this no contest. Carey dominates the competition.
TOOLSOLDIER1 5 months ago
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snaresgonewild 4 months ago
And yes you may think what I said is confusing by saying I do not agree with the comment on Mike Portnoy being selfish in his playing but no what I meant was yes his playing is selfish just like everyone elses is selfish. I mean I do not agree to just single him out as selfish. Thank you ;)
themusicman777 5 months ago
I agree all will have a different opinion but I will not agree with immature comments as Mike Portnoy's playing is selfish. We are all selfish unless we become robots with no desires. Oh by the way Mike Portnoy all the way!
themusicman777 5 months ago
@themusicman777 you are retarted
MrSputnick1997 4 months ago
A lot of you are just tools...yes pun intended. How can you say Mike is selfish with his playing? I have news for you people. Danny is selfish too and so are all musicians cause if they were not selfish they wouldn't play the damn instrument. Do you think these guys play because they have to? No they play cause they themselves love it...yep that is selfish. Which in turn makes us selfish for stating our opinions cause well it makes us happy.
themusicman777 5 months ago
@themusicman777 It doesn't take an idiot to understand what someone means by the word selfish being used in this context though. Just being extremely literal doesn't make someones stance on a subject more or less pointful, it just changes the point all together.
karmaofgood 5 months ago
Comparing drummers at the level these guys are at is just fundamentally stupid. Why is the goal of every idiot in music to determine who is the best at every separate aspect of music?
I want to know when music stopped actually being about the music.
projectbaum 6 months ago
@projectbaum : have to agree with you here, music isn't a sport, it's one of the great things about it, end of the day there isn't any winners, i have to say though i prefer carey's drumming, the man is a genius, the guy is a master of playing within the context of a piece of music. i don't even know if thats a skill that can be thought.
chriseifer 5 months ago
@chriseifer
So what you're saying is "I agree with you, but I'm going to go ahead and do it anyway?"
Just kidding, man. To each his own. They're both fantastic drummers, I'm sure they wouldn't be squabbling about this sort of thing. They're just happy to be making music, and we should all just be happy about the fact that they're making music.
Peace.
projectbaum 5 months ago
Dany, his technical ability is over the top. And Tool is better than dt, (in my opinion)
shakakamooroar 6 months ago
Mike portnoy is the number 1 , sorry Dany.
ProgresivePrototipe 6 months ago
Mike Portnoy of course
andrekz 6 months ago
@andrekz wow really? you dont know anything about drumming then dickfuck.
iWentToNam 3 months ago
@iWentToNam I do not really know anything about battery does not, but Mike knows and really, in fact better than two of us together and fuck hahahahah for you too ..
andrekz 3 months ago
Danny Carey = Superior in any way..
sempthegreat 6 months ago
listen to his live solo in triad. It'll blow your mind. Danny Carey is the only drummer that i can listen to his solos and view them as music and enjoy them instead of just fast technical speed.
BASSxACE 6 months ago
Even tho i like tools music better... portney's more technically skilled hands down.. careys are way more powerful tho.. depends on whats more important to you..
lcthc420 6 months ago
@lcthc420 creativity over skill wins every time. every musician knows this.
undergroundjackal 5 months ago
dammit I hate it when sound is little off in drumming videos.... I can't see where they are hitting!!!!
gkc25 6 months ago
Tool y Danny carey Rules¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ No se quien se atrevio a hacer esa comparación
pero bueno.... Carey se lleva de calle a Portnoy¡¡¡
Aunque sean metal progresivo los dos no tienen nada que ver el uno con el otro.
carearroz 6 months ago
danny carey > the second best mike in dream theater.
ScreamxBloodyxGore 6 months ago
I certainly vote for Danny Carey!..
KASGAsa 7 months ago
different styles
JayT851 7 months ago
@JayT851 Every drummer has a diffrent style, so i guess its impossible to compare any of them?
platapush 7 months ago
danny carey!!
xxjddhxx 7 months ago
Tool no doubt, like ChAoTIC559 said Portnoy lacks the emotional part in playing he's come a long way but Carey has much better technique and skill. There's no doubt about it.
9966kk 7 months ago
TooL wins. fuk the other band what is it dream theater? yeah they suck ass. catagorize them with dragonhorse's ass
imtallhaha 7 months ago
@imtallhaha Sorry Tool is nothing if you are comparing to Dream Theater!
Dream Theater is a new level, its above on music chain with more talent and technical musicians!
I like Tool and Like DT! But you cant compare Tool with DT! you just can't!
DT is a band that doesn't enjoy everybody but the best musicians like them and respect them and love their music! You saying that they are bullshit is nonsense! And your comment sucks not DT!
Audioslavetuga 6 months ago
Man callate¡¡¡ Dream no tiene ni la mitad de talento que los de tool, portnoy es una maquina tecnica.
Dream teather no es otro nivel musical lo que pasa es que lo sigue gente como tu que escucha metalito barato y no saben de musica.. solo se emocionan con el Show y la rapides.. El Pretucci no tiene ni la mitad de expresión musical que tiene el guitarro de Tool.. John Myung es una maquina no dice nada.. el James LaBrie ni siquiera canta... Man ponte a escuchar mas musica....
carearroz 6 months ago
@carearroz Otro pendejo más que cree que cuando alguien toca lento, está tocando con "sentimiento" y que un guitarrista o un bajista necesita hacer expersiones faciales para demostrar la emoción que sienten al estar tocando su música.
alushearo 6 months ago
@Audioslavetuga
Did the guy just say Dream Theater is better than Tool?!
LOL! DT has had like 10 different members. They don't evem like themselves.
ChAoTiC559 6 months ago 3
How could you judge based on a clip? These drummers both have incredible catalogs of beautiful music. In fact why would you want to judge one over the other? They are both great in different ways. I'm glad to have both.
Rickles 7 months ago
K... i'm a big fan of both bands... but i think that portnoy is way better because of the variation in time signatures and techniques... that's so easy to tell, but i think i like tool a little more because of their hipnotics sounds :P
sergiomuratalla 7 months ago
Carey's playing is more crafted to the needs of the song and demonstrates restraint, while Portnoy plays with a fusion-influenced sense of abandon in which EVERY drum part has to be THE BEST FUCKING DRUM PART EVER. Consequently, Portnoy's chops are much more evident than Carey's. Portnoy is a little more fun to watch and listen to--as are the other members of DT and LTE,--but that simply is a result of what kind of band he's playing in, kind of like comparing Moon and Bonham.
cygnifilius 7 months ago
Tatsuya Yoshida
SpaceRitual 7 months ago
ok...man i don't have the possibility to show you my inability on drum...but the piece which showed here...i succeed to play it with facility...mike's piece not...if we speak about technique...there is not history...if we speak about feelings… you can be right.
i am not a fan of only technique.
I have only judged these two examples...on line
1975powerfull 7 months ago
Danny is far better than Mike, his playing on Lateralus sounded like he was ripping a hole in the universe. either way, Vinnie Colaiuta pwns them both with one hand.
DyingSID666 7 months ago
It doesn't even take an experienced drummer(although it's an extreme advantage) to hear the difference between Carey and Portnoy.
Carey's drumming, although obviously technical and insanely skilled, involves so much more emotion than Portnoy's. His drumming is unselfish, and truly reinforces every song's intent. Portnoy is an great drummer, but his playing lacks the emotional attachment to each song that I believe Carey has.
Carey's strongest attribute is pure emotional creativity.
ChAoTiC559 7 months ago 28
@ChAoTiC559 hell ya...danney plays with tons of more feel than portnoy...
mulholland1985 6 months ago
@ChAoTiC559
You are talking WAYYY TOO GENERAL
mike is LIGHTYEARS ahead of carey...
Watch this video - /watch?v=XW-CI6nGxl8
then tell me carey is better..
In this vid, mike REALLY didnt get much of a chance. You want to really know who's best, keep an open mind and watch that video.
Also hear songs like Constant Motion, Stream of Consciousness, In The Name of God, etc.
Please do not give an insulting reply until you REALLY have seen the best of Mike.
726Twister 1 day ago
@726Twister Lightyears ahead? LOL! Your credibility just left like Portnoy left Dream Theater.
Read the comments. It's very widely agreed upon that Carey is better.
ChAoTiC559 1 day ago
i rate mike portnoy
romadonwicaksono 8 months ago
STEVE JUDD! best drummer all time!
MrJackPhantom 8 months ago
It's about making the complex simple..Danny Does this. Mike makes complexities and to hear him explain it...it's almost mathematical .....Though I do like Erotomania....the best..!
nexusvision 8 months ago
You'll find this odd I think you'll find Dream theater music is more unison music, pre arranged...structured. I've heard Portnoy do lick for lick not for note 97% the record. Everything is pre thought not extemporaneous, I hear Danny Carey and I feel and hear what he's doing on and off the Rhythym. The music is structured but he's a freerer creator to enhance the music. Danny's placement inspires..a deeper and approach and them to the entire composition. And he uses space like Miles Davis..
nexusvision 8 months ago
Portnoy plays busier, dc plays more emotionally. Different both works. Tool prolly sells more units, true test.
martythemantis 8 months ago
There is no Danny Carey vs. Mike Portnoy. There is only Danny Carey. Mike Portnoy is a little choir girl compared to Danny Carey.
themidnightgardener 8 months ago
carey all the way, portnoys a bitch.
robbymadore 8 months ago
in soviet russia... drums play you...
josephsm1 8 months ago
umm your calling mike portnoy NOT A MUSICIAN. i dont think you can get into berklee if your not a musician dumbass.
littledrumaboy556 8 months ago
danny all the way
huntsnow 8 months ago
Danny Carey is better than Mike Portnoy.
may14ification 8 months ago
my vote is mike portnoy
theCastille 8 months ago
Gavin Harrison kicks both of their asses :D
WyattTheGuitarist 8 months ago
well theyre both great, i could never understand why everyone hates on Mike Portnoy...he's so good! I mean c'mon, he and Dream Theater met at Berklee School of Music...theres no way that he would be accepted into Berklee and suck, thats not possible. However, Danny Carey is more of my style, so i connect with Danny better than I do Mike.
kook1028 8 months ago 3
DANNY!
jimmygee5 8 months ago
Danny Carey rules!!!!! NERD THEATER SUCKS!!!
zeroale 9 months ago
Who cares who's better, they're both kickass drummers. And why are we mentioning peart in a Danny/ Mike vid. C'mon, take that somewhere else.
PassTheCemeteryGates 9 months ago
i am shocked about how many carey votes there are i mean he is a great drummer but i mean come on portnoy has to memorize songs that are 15-20 minutes long with an abundance of drum solos and different drum patterns that are very difficult and he has to memorize all the odd time signatures in every single dream theater song. Carey is good but i mean there are only about 5 or 6 tool songs that really have troubled me to play and I know a lot of tool songs
thesneakygamer4343 9 months ago
@thesneakygamer4343 shocked because of so many Danny votes here ?
its just because this is one of the few Danny vs someone video in youtube..listened to some danny drum parts..he doesnt seemed to impress me..mp ftw
ginjeeimano 9 months ago
While Danny certainly wins this in my opinion, I've still never heard a drummer song better than Panic Attack. While in most cases Portnoy has nothing on Carey, in this one song Dan has nothing on Mike.
GodofReapers 9 months ago
@GodofReapers that is where you are wrong, two words "the Grudge". the amount of control in the earlier parts of the song and orgasmic ending is testament to Carey's playing. but I'm a guitarist so what do I know. ticks and leeches is the one that gets other people off but the grudge is the one that makes my face melt off.
300daysandnights 9 months ago
Danny wins hands down in my eyes. He is way more complex and creative than mike who just uses double bass and Tom rolls repeatedly.
TheHumphreybumphrey 9 months ago
NO ONE CAN DEFEAT DANNY HES LIKE GOD BUT WITH DRUMSTICKS
piggod1234 9 months ago
her is the issue with desiding who is the best in anny instrument, the issue is that everyone has a different defenition on good drummer. someone think Mike portnoy is the best because of his fills and double bass, while other people think Danny Carey because of his university as a drummer. so that why you really cant say ether that Mike Portnoy wins or that Danny Carey wins.
12jonaskor 9 months ago
Both awesome, why try and pick a winner, man can you drum like that?????
gotchacobba 9 months ago
mike who?
slingabox 9 months ago
Danny.
TheIambigkev 9 months ago
I say this one is too close to call. I love both. Danny does crazy stuff, but Mike does too. Danny has more enfluence in MY drumming because I like Tool more, but I realy can't say either way. : /
coasternut3091 9 months ago
Danny was brutal when he was a freshman at UMKC. The places his musical conciousness have gone are far beyond what most of the rest of us can concieve of.
kenj31862 9 months ago
Danny Carey is easily the greatest drummer of all time now. Surpassing Neal Peart and Keith Moon. Danny isn't even as technical as people think. No other drummer has control he does. He can play his left foot & arm just as well as his right. And his odd-time polyrhythms and paradiddles are played without a single hitch. And I love the way he lets his drums sing.
HolyDeth 9 months ago
@HolyDeth peart is better than both of them ,thats just a know thing
fu13c 9 months ago
@fu13c Nope. Not in a million years. Peart can't play multiple polyrhythms WITH paradiddles. Danny plays one set of paradiddles with one hand for god's sake. Neil has been surpassed already.
HolyDeth 9 months ago
@HolyDeth peart could learn all of danny careys drum parts very easily ,i really like carey and portnoy but its stupid to compare them to neil peart, peart is the best end of story
fu13c 9 months ago
@fu13c Was the best. Just like Hendrix was the best. Times change. Combine the odd-time signatures with the frequent polyrhythms played with Paradiddles... Peart would not be able to comprehend all of it. Danny is much more innovative as well. Even if Peart could partially play it, he'd be VERY sloppy. Danny has trained his left side just like his right.
HolyDeth 9 months ago
@HolyDeth lets compare any of pearts solos with careys solos its not even close lol peart owns
fu13c 9 months ago
@fu13c Don't even get into soloing. Danny's solos are beyond difficult. Peart just transitions quickly. Try Danny's tabla solo, or even his bass & drum solo in Rosetta Stoned. And let's not forget The Grudge. But that's just soloing.
HolyDeth 9 months ago
@HolyDeth pearts solos are beyond difficult and there all better than any of careys solos,peart has written some of the best drum parts for songs of all time ,lets hear any drum part carey plays that even comes close to, tom sawyer ,2112 ,yyz, la villa strangiatto, caravan, the camera eye, cygnus x-1, etc, i can keep naming songs for hours lol
fu13c 9 months ago
@HolyDeth lets compare any of pearts solos to careys its not even close peart blows him off the stage ,
fu13c 9 months ago
daney carey >>> mike portnoy all day long.
dont get me wrong, both are insane, but theres just something about daney...
iwearpants06 9 months ago
I am a big fan of these two drummers but if i had to rate them I would say Danny incorporates a fusion feel with his tricky hi hat patterns. Like the middle section of eulogy where he plays a 3 vs 4 feel. Danny is very creative in his approach to the drums. Now Mike plays with a technical heavy rock feel. I thing we have to look at here is how long and how many projects mike has been involved with. Not to mention playing in a band with petrucci, that dude is a guitar god.
pencook1 9 months ago
These are my two favorite drummers from my two favorite bands, and here is how I see it, think of painting a great masterpiece. Portnoy uses all the colors to paint the piece, where as Carey can make the same piece with using just a few colors. In my bookm they will both still be my two favorites
57volksdragon 9 months ago
mike...
martinwaltfor 9 months ago
@martinwaltfor Gets owned by Danny Carey....
sp33dstr3am 9 months ago
Danny's better in my opinion..
MrFunkymonks 9 months ago
carey is not even in portnoy league , thats all!
AKtifosi 9 months ago
@AKtifosi LOL!!!!!!retard right here! you idiot. you probably have never heard danny's stuff
iWentToNam 9 months ago
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CHEONER1982 10 months ago
Danny Carey!! POrtnoy is good aswelll but too superficial...
JoAxInJoKeR 10 months ago
Mike
VirgilSimpson 10 months ago
is this a competition of which audio was more atrociously recorded?
gokce2112 10 months ago
Danny Carey.
sayoslick94 10 months ago
This is how i see it
Danny = Better skill wise on the drum kit
Mike = More Creative
In the end, creativity is what puts you over the hump, so i think Portnoy is the better drummer.
Zynpar09 10 months ago
@Zynpar09 How the fuck is Mike more creative?!
J0KKI 10 months ago
@J0KKI How is he not? Have you seen everything he's done compared to what Danny has done?
Zynpar09 10 months ago
@Zynpar09 Yes, pretty much..
J0KKI 10 months ago
@J0KKI Okay, so what are you arguing about?
Zynpar09 10 months ago
@Zynpar09 Dude... how is Danny not more creative than Mike?
mike plays good shit, has his good fills, they all sound similar, like tom rolls after one another... Danny plays great shit, has good fills, they all (for most part) sound unique and different in their own way, and doesn't just do tom rolls after another....
Mike plays are a standard 4/4 timing... easy shit, i can do it and im a guitar player. Danny plays at different timings throughout one song. eg. verse-4/4 chorus-3/4... and so on
SynX6661 10 months ago
@SynX6661 "Mike plays are a standard 4/4 timing". Are you kidding me right now? Mike is an oddtime maniac, maybe you should listen to some of there songs? I have viewed both drummers and they are amazing, but before you make your judgements, get some facts. You're basing his skill on fills and timing, those are minor factors that make you a good drummer. And you brought false information to the table by saying Mike usually plays in 4/4 time, you couldn't of been more wrong with your statement.
Zynpar09 10 months ago
@SynX6661 The only time Mike played in 4/4 timing was in the time he spent with Avenged Sevenfold. Which reading your handle, I'm inclined to think that's all you know of his drumming. Pull your head out of your ass and find REAL Mike Portnoy drums. As for who's better out of Mike & Danny... It's a personal preference thing. Both are flat out amazing. My vote goes to Portnoy... But I'm not going to damn anyone who says Carey.
yt1096 10 months ago
@SynX6661 Woow 4/4? First of all there's nothing wrong with it, a good drummer can do wonders inside a 4/4, but Portnoy's a big user of 7/8, 5/4 and some times 9/12. He's got cool time signature stuff but does not abuse. It's not all about technique you know? It's creativity what matters, for example check how he builds up his sound: he plays lots of songs with the snare stick inverted and in LTE has a tom with a LP head to get a rare sound. Or just check his smaller side kit, pretty weird
slashdelbarrio 10 months ago
@Zynpar09 LOL wtf, mike only has repeatative double bass fills with open hi-hat parts, ARE YOU SERIOUS MAN danny does african drums, tablas. open hi-hats in the weirdest times. holy shit man danny is way more creative and thats a fact not an opinion theres just way too much evidence to deny it.
iWentToNam 9 months ago
@iWentToNam Perhaps Portnoy does do the sets of six fills and the quad fills a lot, but it sounds good and matches the music. But again, you're basing his creativity on his fills rather than looking at the bigger picture of everything he's done, whether it be lyrical writing, his insane grooves and oddtime signatures and his creative way of improving songs by a tremendous amount during a live performance.
Zynpar09 9 months ago
@iWentToNam And yes, Carey does incorporate polyrhythms into his playing but with the amount of talent he has on the drumset he should be able to come up with some real unique grooves. Not saying his polyrhythm grooves are bad or not unique, they are absolutely unique and sound great, but i'm just saying that they can be at a much higher level with the amount of skill that he has on the drumset.
Zynpar09 9 months ago
@Zynpar09 he has HEAPS of unique grooves. ok goo look up Danny Carey Triad 1. its my favourite piece of his. its very very VERY extremely hard. its just amazing
iWentToNam 9 months ago
@Zynpar09 dude ur fucking stupid mike portnoy is just a faggit neil peart wannabe (more like never be) and dannycarey as a fucking drum god do u know how fucking hard it is to do one of his polyrhythems mike would cry before he could even try to attempt one
cipher913 9 months ago
@cipher913 I was trying to have an intelligent argument with someone else until you sadly bud in with your very idiotic, yet amusing statement. First of all, your sentence doesn't make any sense, so clearly you're as dumb as a 10 year old kid. Second of all, you came into this argument with your own stupid opinion and zero facts to back it up. Lastly, don't ever comment on anything related to drumming because you clearly are a fucking idiot. Good day.
Zynpar09 9 months ago
@cipher913 THANK YOU!!!! agreed
iWentToNam 9 months ago
@iWentToNam ur welcome theres no need for facts to prove that danny is better than mike
cipher913 9 months ago
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patriota54 10 months ago
Although this is an old post from four years ago, Portnoy blows Carey away. Not even in the same league to compare. Stupid comparison to begin with..... I'm a drummer of 38 years, and basically Mike Portnoy has taken what Neil Peart did for the world of drums, and took precision and complex drumming to a whole new level unmatched by anyone today. The next two greatest drummers (currently playing) would have to be Thomas Lang and Mike Mangini. Portnoy is the best by far hands down.
nathometheatre 10 months ago
my vote is for danny. also, this video starts his run at a shitty time because the part before this includes some gong playing where he does instantaneous stick changes to the gong mallet and back to the stick in an awesome and visually pleasing way. i've seen both drummers live and there is no contest at all, danny plays hard and smart.
PlebeianComplex 10 months ago
Thumbs up for Danny Thumbs down for Mike
elsalvador702 10 months ago
mike is a show off
36thShaolinChamber 10 months ago
Hey! For me the main diference is Danny's creativity! So Danny by far!
Ndjoy 10 months ago
What a horrible clip they chose to show Danny.
TheDobligator 10 months ago
i do latin percussion, polyrythms are my bitch
ChuckyB09 10 months ago
danny
supdenfoosukka 10 months ago
Vote for DANNY
PatAaron519 10 months ago
1 vote for Carey
6manu0 11 months ago
OKAY - here is the deal.
Danny Carey - Plays polyrhytms all time, has great control over double bass, almost every fill is different in one way or another, and VERY unique.
Mike Portnoy - Double bass freak (goes wild with it), his fills sound very similar, but plays what fits the music.
Basically, Danny can do what Mike can AND MORE, tastefully, and on top of that he CONTRIBUTES to the music, not just plays something that "fits."
In my opinion Danny is far superior, he's a musician not a drummer
EggoMyLeggo7 11 months ago 62
@EggoMyLeggo7 Mike Portnoy is the songwriter of pretty much every great DT song along with Petrucci, he contributes a lot to the music. And he isn't a double bass freak, he makes a sober use of it and has cool patterns like in Under a Glass Moon or The Glass Prision
slashdelbarrio 10 months ago
@EggoMyLeggo7 you just forgot to mention portnoy is way better bud
fu13c 9 months ago
@fu13c Mike Portnoy is WAY too technical for my taste and Danny is very technical but he puts his feel into the music. He doesn't do what "fits" as Portnoy says, he puts his heart and soul into the music and plays with what comes to him, not what he plans to do. Music isn't technical, some the most famous and successful are strictly talented. Danny just happens to have talent AND technicality. Besides, Tool songs are written starting with Danny Carey and Justin Chancellor (bass). That says a lot
EggoMyLeggo7 8 months ago
@EggoMyLeggo7 i still think portnoy is better lol and peart is better than both of them you cant argue that
fu13c 8 months ago
@fu13c He's skillfully better but he's so boring to watch and doesn't really with feel =/
EggoMyLeggo7 8 months ago
@fu13c He's skillfully better but he's so boring to watch and doesn't really play with feel =/
EggoMyLeggo7 8 months ago
@EggoMyLeggo7 "he's a musician, not a drummer"... You mean besides the fact that Mike Portnoy does most of the arranging and production on the Dream Theater records, and sings. I mean, i personally think Carey is a better drummer... i think theres a lot of drummers better than MP. But dont dismiss him as "just a drummer".
WyattTheGuitarist 8 months ago
@EggoMyLeggo7 drummers are musicians
Mrzombiedrummer 8 months ago 23
@EggoMyLeggo7 Portnoy is a whiney, Peart wannabee. Never been a fan of Tool, probably won't be. But Danny is damn good at playing musically.
FighterOfFoo284 8 months ago
@EggoMyLeggo7 definitely more than just a drummer; he elevates the mood and tone of the music. It feels like our American Idol culture sometimes only fixates on technical skill rather than creative skill, and thats what makes Tool stand out as a group
infiniteinmate 7 months ago
@EggoMyLeggo7
I know Mike Portnoy better than Danny Carey, and you probably know Danny Carrey better than Mike portnoy, so your opinion is biased, you should do more research on Mike Portnoy before you make this remark, you should also know that Danny Carey is definitely influenced by Mike Portnoy by some extent.
noconflictbanana 7 months ago
@noconflictbanana Danny Carey influenced by Mike Portnoy? Why, pray, would you believe that? Where do you hear that? I would say they are nothing alike, Carey being all about subtlety and restraint while Portnoy loves the grandiose and over-the-top.
jgonzaleznicolini 7 months ago
Are u guys kidding?? Mike Portnoy is WAY overrated! Danny would kill him! (Any decent drummer can play simple double-bass incorporated fills!) -BTW, I am a fan of both DT as well as TOOL!
masterpuppetz 11 months ago
you cant compare the two when you give portnoys part and awesome fill and careys and average beat that he would play, go best solo vs best solo
gunslinger102938 11 months ago
if youre writing a comment that doesnt start with "danny" and ends with "carey", stop. think about what youre doing. listen, and repent.
elbentzo 11 months ago
Mike
grey5ive 11 months ago
both are amazing musicians and have very unique styles of playing but i think im gonna cast a vote for mike portnoy
allthatremains2009 11 months ago
+1 for carey!
gtlevin101 11 months ago
Portnoy uses much more technique than Danny. I like Carrey's style though.
22zson 11 months ago
I wouldn't say either of them is better than the other, because i'm sure they could both play each others work, or at least cover it pretty well. But i'm a massive Tool fan, and I'd say I prefer Carey as a drummer..... in fact I would marry that man, so I could hear him drumming everyday <3
tiernan1309 11 months ago
mike portnoy...this shouldnt of even been questioned...its like questioning eating Apples vs. Shit
2A7X4REV 11 months ago
Portnoy
DrummingNonStop 11 months ago
YOU GUYS HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING
Do you even know anything about musical theory?
I not a Portnoy fanboy but he is playing time signatures that are ever changing in 15 minute songs. Just remembering a single song---forget playing it---remembering parts that never repeat is astonishing and is a talent that takes a particular musical genius.
Obviously Youtube is filled with compete idiots but this isnt even close--if you think Carey is better you just havnt listened to the best of Portnoy
Rizzy55 11 months ago
@Rizzy55 took the words out off my mouth
2A7X4REV 11 months ago
@Rizzy55 The song Danny is playing has an incredible amount of musical theory in fact the Time signature is a Fibonacci sequence that can be graphed as a spiral.
nosajman 11 months ago
@lucasfloresta14 yes he of course sucks major dick, compared to danny. lol just go try play a tool song on the drums its insanely tricky
iWentToNam 11 months ago
Portnoy is all flash, no passion. DC is a beast who can play any time sig while trying to destroy his kit.
kdbaxter666 11 months ago
Mike.
DTxOctavariumx 11 months ago
Definitely
Danny Carey
Spunjo1221 11 months ago
I really dig Mike, and he is extremely good, but I prefer Danny. I think if Mike found a band that branched out a little bit more he would be a lot better. Even if just he and John left the band and started anew it would be good news for everyone.
Niscimble 11 months ago
danny hands down!
liranrok1 11 months ago
Mike is amazing..don't get me wrong, but how can somebody possibly consider him to be a better drummer than Carey? Just listen to his poly-rhythms. It still gives me goosebumps to see him in action.
Pidgeon182 11 months ago
Mike always win just for sheer technical skill.
Dufflad08 11 months ago
@Dufflad08 technical skill? there are better arguments you could have made for portnoy. danny carey has played every type of music since he was a kid. He even plays tabla drums (which include time signatures up to 108 beats long!!) carey is the epitome of technical skill and discipline. it's why he sounds so unique. portnoy is self-taught and his style consists mainly of super fast single strokes, which anyone can do with enough physical training and hand eye coordination.
Jmoney741 11 months ago
Too bad Portnoy can't find a better band.... Dream Theater is horrible... Oh wait he left and is now in Avenged Sevenfold....HAHAHHAHAH! what a joke!
He needs to stop playing with sissy bands!
Danny Wins... For being in a better band
GoGoNards 11 months ago
Portnoy.
killemo213 11 months ago
mike for the win!
TheDummer7 11 months ago