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  • I can't believe some of you morons still havent figured out that the big-eared Kenyan was placed into power by the same Bankster-Zionist-MilitaryIndus­trialMurderers who have put all puppet-presidents into power since JFK. Wake up dummies. The fix has been in since November 22, 1963.

  • obama/zinn 2012

  • @ericfeinberg28 Why is it that so many Jews like you Eric want to see amerika destroyed by bankster-zionists? Dont you know that once fascists seize total power they ALWAYS come for the Jews? Is that what you want?

  • @goohgulliscia for you to associate obama or howard zinn with fascism shows either that you don't know the meaning of fascism or are profoundly misinformed about these two men. i suggest you get your facts straight; i'm quite confident in mine

  • The Spirit of the 1930's was at least as great as the 1960. "How do we get there?...We need direct action. We need civil disobedience. We need raise the level of tension in the country because only that kind of indignation is going to have some effect on the people in Washington." #OWS

  • Zinn is coming from a time long gone where public opinion mattered. It doesn't any longer. There were fearce and angry opposition to the Patriot Act with opinion 1000 to 1 against it. Do we have the patriot act now?

    Not only do we, we also got a worse one in the Patriot Act II - also fervently opposed by the American public.

    Zinn's advice might have worked in the times pre 1990's but no longer - sad to say.

  • we need more jews!

  • For all of you bashing teh tea party:

    the tea party was not republican or democratic it is libitarian. It is kind of like anarchists except they still support teh shell like police, firemen,ect. It was agiast Bush and agiast Obama. You can be a democratic tea parter or a republican. But teh group is more on teh right side. Its agiast lobbyists,wars,bad corporations,ect as much as anyone else but wants the gov to stop invling them via excessive taxes

  • @singlaprety12 The tea party movement started off good but now it's isolated on the right. That happened after corporate interests used Fox "news" to hijack it. But overall the situation in America is good. The special interests are still hiding what they are doing because they're scared and every day more Americans are turning into activists.  All we need to do is to stop following "leaders" and come together in order to fix our problems. Then when they're fixed we can go back to fighting.

  • We will have another man like this rise up in time....

  • Spoken like a true Communist that he was. May he RIP, but glad he's gone.

  • Mr. Zinn was very open minded. He was aware of the past and present dynamics that cause this country to be at the state it is at today. This can only be seen by a deep, open, and honest evaluation of the facts. This is very unique and unusual quality. Last of a dying breed of true Patriots, that truely loved this country and wanted what was best all citizens and in return is best for the country. It's not just about the rich and the top 2%. Wake up people!!!

  • RIP

  • They called it right here. Obama is following too much with the Bush policies and a group formed directing their anger against democrats. Obama needs to take things another direction and soon if he hopes to salvage his Presidency.

  • well you got a grassroots national movement Zinn....unfortunately it was the Tea Party movement...

  • @afare1 the tea party is libitarian. It supports smaller goverment. Like for instance Bush fucked us up by getting us into wars and shit, so teh tea party goes "Screw that I dont wanna pay a huge income tax for meaningless wars"

  • I wonder with all of this talk of people rising up and organizing he would be proud of the tea party, even though they would not be along with this side of politics?

  • @Yereviltwin2 I think Zinn would see it as the masses being fooled by the plutocratic corporate elite.

  • @Yereviltwin2

    i think that he might see it as promising that people are rushing to SOME sort of standard after years of complacency.

    but, i think that he would probably say that the Tea Party isn't truly grassroots but "astro-turf" activism-- the Tea Party is pretty openly supported and funded by big business corporatism i.e. Fox News.

  • wow its hard to believe that ppl can be so negative living in a country as beautiful as ours. oh and why cant ppl respect the fact that Mr. Zinn has passed. jeez get a life!

  • Not to mention the indoctrination going on which is counterfeit education

  • There are just numerous problems with our system, including the one you just  mentioned.

  • Godheval, right as long as there is an agreement, irregardless of the disagreement reform, but our system is totally turned on it's head, teachers don't know what i takes to teach others, what passes for liberal education is watered down with vocationalism, the ancient Greeks would have called specialized training to be nothing but training for slavery. This is why it's called liberal education, it's education for the free man, vocational training should be done on the job not in the schools.

  • R.I.P. Howard Zinn.  There will never be another like you.

  • "certain moments in history"? and, "i think this may be one." we are desperate for change and the potential. if obama wants a "social revolution" he need look no further than PUBLIC ENEMY!!!

  • Democracy is overall is at crisis because of the lack of education.

  • @Pdrum2 Almost. What we lack as a nation is due to a crisis in education. The public school system is rotting due to a heavy focus on standardized testing rather than promoting diverse methods of learning and 21st century literacies. In the "race to the top", states are compromising their children's educations for the scraps from the fed's table - making up a whopping 7-12% of their education budget. Not worth it in the long run.

  • Obama supported by communists = is one himself.

  • @NHTPC NHTPC's view supported by idiots = must be one himself.

  • && btw i am not a socialist nor a communist nor a liberal.

    I am a hardcore conservative.

    & btw obama may not be a socialist but he has socialist ideas. you must be blind if you cant see it. & socialism isnt not always negative. its good at heart & with good intentions but it doesnt work. however, having some socialist idea intricated with democracy can be positive & helpful in a time like this.

    & please respect this man for he has passed away & deserves much much respect.

  • Excuse me, but i say yall stop hating on him because this man is amazing.

    although i dont agree with everything he says, he is very smart and can build a logical argument & doesn't just go along with things. he steps back & looks at everything. & for all yall that are saying that he hates america, yall need to fuck off!! read his dam book & perhaps you will realize he doesnt hate america. He argues throughout his book that america isnt perfect which is true. no one nor nothing is perfect.

  • SO you think we need to give people their homes for free?

  • scorzeny, i'm finding your angry comments all over youtube. I dont have enough time or space to say all i'd like, but in my opinion it shows a GREAT LOVE of america for Zinn to have devoted his life to sharing her true story anf fighting for her highest potential and the possibile realization of the phrase "with liberty and justice for all"

  • here we go again,a leftwing,jew is going to talk down to us stupid masses about how America sucks.News flash-you suck ,you leftwing liberal piece of crap.TOO bad he never left America if he hated her so much.Good riddance .

  • Glyvxx sounds like one of those people who thinks Obama's policies are 'socialist'

    and stop trying to pretend you are a classic paleo conservative, you are most likely a neocon

  • @susu666

    That's a big part of the problem here in the US, people don't know what socialism is, or conservatism, for that matter.

    Someone who is a warmongering imperialist that wants to have religion play a large role in society, is called a conservative today. That's what we would call neoconservatism, which is neither new nor conservative.

  • R.I.P. Mr.Zinn

  • Requiescat in Pace.

  • And why didn't the Germans get him before he caused probelms?

  • R.I.P.

  • @Glyvxx yeah i dont know whats going on with him and chomsky lately

  • They have no idea what the working man goes through because they are a bunch of Ivy League d-bags?

  • He's not a politician supporting anything - he's an academic, trying to describe a situation so you and others can make an informed choice, which is much more than your government will ever do for you. Disagree if you like (that's your right), but insulting him isn't constructive. Try finding something else you agree with and support that, although it sounds as though you could still use more education first. No offense intended.

  • Actually I am educated.

    He's another out of touch liberal.

  • It's nice to know that a guy like Zinn supports a warmonger. I guess it's important for any politician to cut his teeth by killing innocents. Obama has passed the test now and proven he's a good killer.

    How many wars does Obama have going now? Three? That's why he won the Peace Prize, isn't it?

  • Jah bless Mr Zinn !

  • An intelligent, articulate and fair-minded individual. We need more people like Zinn in the public eye.

  • @comradegonzo won't happen until you people use your constitutional rights to set up a new govt. Because they're clearly not doing your bidding.

  • Howard Zinn had ample opportunity to endorse a real progressive like Nader.

  • @rosiechanel why didnt he, it seems like a mistake to me. its really dissapointing

  • there is no democracy

    Democracy is just an illusion..

  • damn straight

  • amen!

    democracy is like socialism & communism.

    good at heart but it doesnt work.

  • I love what RealNews does. I love its idealism and I admire much of its independent reporting. However, I just cannot bring myself to admire Paul Jay. He seems very egocentric, and tries to hard to act corporate even though his thinking is perhaps anything but.

  • What we need to do is separate God from politics and religion. Because religion and politics go hand in hand. Religion is just a man made political corporation.

  • im GONE now why delete all your videos that dont make sence???!!

  • hahah, its not sence, its sense you fool

  • Hate ppl who think ther high and mighty correcting ppls spelling its soo sad!

    Tiera tu' punta baka!!

    Translate that you diabolical troll ha ha ha

  • Your spelling is child-like.

  • you r a crazy lady. its very easy t hate stuff, isnt it

  • SUCK MY CROW TOE

  • What he's saying is we need to ride Obama's ass or he's going to knuckle under, like sending more troops to Afghanistan or not repealing the Bush tax cut for the wealthy. Oops, too late!

  • Bingo! nice way to put it :)

  • He was in the army, he did suffer for this country. You don't need to agree with what he says, but what makes our country great is that he can say things like this. If you start deporting everyone who says something that you think is ignorant where would that leave this country? You're right, America is the greatest country in the world, and though People's History is biased, Zinn openly says it is biased, but there are a lot of great facts in there.

  • Some find the truth offensive to their delusions.

  • Zinn doesnt say its biased.

    read the book.

    he clearly states its not.

    he just tells american history from different points of views.

    & wrong again America is not the greatest country in the world.

    there is no such thing as greatest.

    all countries have there flaws.

  • @footballisfun You know it wasn't until I read zinn that I really started thinking about America in a new light

  • @bluesboy25000

    Quit reading that one sided radical bullshit. Howard Zinn a real communist and hates America and our culture. There is no value to his writing unless you are looking for some red meat to feed your hatred of this great counties history

  • @Yereviltwin2 Zinn didn't hate America and neither do I. The main goal of people like Zinn and Cornel West is not to bash America. It is to put it into the context of history and show that we are not perfect. Therefore it is up to us, the people to rise up and work to perfect our union

  • @bluesboy

    When you advocate the dismantling of our government though violent revolution and replacing our way of life with a communist state, I think that in the realm of treason. When you dont respect the founding fathers and the history that made this country great, that sounds anti American. When you write a history book and omit critical facts and skew the motives to fit your POV, I think thats being dishonest.

  • @Yereviltwin2 Well let's have this discussion what quotes do you have to substantiate Zinn's beliefs about violent revolution

  • @bluesboy25000

    He references and praises the up risings of from the sort of violent revolutionaries such as Che Guevara, Castro, Various Black Panther leaders. The ladder half of his Peoples history is a call of a new American revolution and to replace it with a socialist communist society. Never does he condemn the violence of his focused heroes. Every domestic radical and anarchist group holds Zinn as a reading staple.

  • @Yereviltwin2 And by the way puto, I am an Eagle Scout so don't you dare question my patriotism

  • @footballisfun I lost all respect I had for Zinn when he "went Obama." One man is not the problem. One party is not the problem. The plutocracy is the problem that supposedly does not exist. Why did these Obama worshippers actually think that Obama could be nominated without the "blessing" of the billionaire elite?

  • Which branch of the military are you signing up for when you are of age? Howard Zinn served in World War II. As a hispanic in Miami, I'm thinking your parents or grandparents were immigrants. If people like Zinn were silenced in the 1950's and 1960's your family might still be in Cuba (or wherever). It isn't always a good idea to have a knee-jerk reaction against progressivism; it has done much good.

  • well i respect and admire him for fighting for this country.

    however, as bad as i think a moderate "progressiveness" is; i will not go on a tirade on someone who holds to that point of view.

    however, Zinn is stretched out so far to the left, I think he's coming back around the corner.

  • Do you believe that Jesus was a nationalist? Does Christian theory give glory to war? The life of the man you celebrate, according to word passed on though scripts from history, made it a point to be a pacifist. There are also lots of people who have suffered and died being pacifists. Aren't you making a mockery of his message by claiming to be a follower? Isn't that a bit hypocritical?

  • Politics is something completely secular. The Lord has nothing to do with my political views or agenda, etc.

    Do you know what the separation of church and state means? It mean that the state and the church are two separate things. Any decision taken w/in the sphere of one of these should not affect or be affected by the other.

    This is the way it should be.

    Either way, how am I compromising any Christian morals by saying anything I may have said here. Elaborate.

  • Because of your liberal bashing, military praise, and seething disdain for those who are critical of conservative goverment... I assumed you were conservative, pro war, and a loyal nationalist. If I assumed wrong, I apologize. But if true, I believe your political beliefs do compromise your morals, because they go against what your deity taught about life. I agree with you about the separation of church and state. That doesn't mean church does not influence the masses politically.

  • you cant enforce your own moral values to thousands of people in the u.s because not everyone has the same values. thats ridiculous.

    however i do agree that the government is not completely secular even though it claims it is.

  • I love you, Mr Zinn.... you are really an angel.... you are the savior of humanity....

  • ah, the hayseed Karate "kid" couldn't take the hit...typical really.

  • Bottom line...this obama is a lying piece of shit. We need to look at our elected officials in the vein of being in a relationship. Would you tolerate your spouse, lying to you 30% of the time? 20%? 10%??? Lying to you at all, whenever the mood strikes them?

    We as a nation really screwed up by putting this scum in office and we are going to pay for it big time!

    Think I'm mistaken...look no further than his stance on our right to bear arms...and his abysmal voting record on said stance!!!

  • oh god, shut up with your gun paranoia. how boring.

  • Please...who are you to tell me what I can say?

    Did you even bother to read what I wrote or check the facts, obviously not! Another uneducated stupid ass voter demands that the opposition not point out the truth...read what I wrote, verify it then run your damn mouth...otherwise...shut up!

  • Forgot one thing...what a pussy...

  • exactly what I'd expect from a gun lover. perhaps you should actually read the 2nd amendment, or get help trying.....that word "militia" might throw you though...and , by the way, it is the "pussy" who needs a gun to fight.

  • You can't be so stupid...or are you??? You need to read the 2nd Amendment...also I recommend reading some of the Founders thoughts on the same for a clearer picture on what they intended for the 2nd Article. You have never heard of the DC vs Heller case? The SCOTUS ruled that it is an individual right...not some bullshit collective right! This is a relatively new argument, only forwarded in the last century...find me any documentation on this being posited in the 1800's! Cops/guns=pussies?

  • Read my home page if you think I am a pussy...this word perfectly describes an individual who faults a person for taking his own safety seriously. I have learned to use any and every tool to make sure I come out on top..."in a fight' as you cal it! You are the type of maggot who would watch as your home is invaded, your wife and children assaulted or raped and then tied up and murdered...make no mistake about it...you are a pussy and you are so stupid...that you don't even know you are a pussy!

  • so emotional....my my....you guys do love to fantasize about the wife raped/children murdered thing don't you? you just can't stop thinking about it can you? hmmm...maybe you should be in jail.

  • poor little man...sitting in the corner ...shaking ....with his gun and his silly interpretation of the 2nd....learn to read shit-kicker.

  • sorry...I'm in the 21st century....maybe you can go back to your beloved "founders" but I'm just a little more up-to-date I guess....say hello to Thomas Paine for me.

  • i guess that prefatory clause was just thrown in for the hell of it, eh? And Heller is one of the most twisted rulings in the Supreme Courts history.

  • Instead of providing facts to back up your inane ranting...you insult...the true colors of a uneducated asshole.

    Whatever pussy....discussion over.

  • what a rich sentence..."you insult...the true colors of a (should have been "an" but of course you are educated and know that) uneducated asshole"....can you see the irony there?....hmmm?...you've really made my day...as well as my argument.

  • OH MY GOD...a 47 year old who brags about .....knowing Karate?!!!??....ARE YOU A GIFT SENT FROM THE BABY JESUS STRAIGHT TO MY HEART?

  • Actually this Dr. is very well respected. Having been an active part of many of America's modern revolutions since WWII, (and serving in WWII itself) I would say that it is safe to say that he's not communist or socialist. In fact he is the definition of a patriot. Look at some of his other vids... maybe read a book or two by him before you make an opinion.

  • Allright!!

  • When I read "nealkassanof," (below) *sniff* *choke* *gag* *blech* I smell neocon.

  • Barak Obama is the figurehead of a management team that is far more dangerous than the current neocon puppet, George W. Bush. In his first one hundred days, he will pass a long list of profoundly antidemocratic executive orders and he will preside over an economic collapse and provacateured events of escalation between the super powers. Mark my words and don't go along with the insanity.

  • If electoral votes was reduced to counties and each counted as 1, there will be a much more incentive for non-voters and registered voters to vote third party.

  • You get a prize for the most intelligent comment on Youtube. Great job!

  • with all the thumbs down I got, I'll assume that was sarcasm?

  • Howard Zinn is a person all Americans should aspire to be more like.

  • agreed

  • yes indeed. As he should.

  • the founding fathers couldn't disagree with you more.

  • Jkiene,

    I guess in the deranged mentality of people like you, the "best living standard" is,

    1. Sending young American boys to endless, worthless & meaningless wars all over the world.

    2. Forcing economic crises all over USA, making ordinary hard working Americans lose their jobs, homes, health & life insurance, life time earnings & savings, or

    3. Covering up & bailing out corrupt corporations like Lincoln S&L, while swindling & reaping of hard earned American tax dollars.

    THIS CAN'T GO ON!

  • Jkiene, Sorry to wake you up from your deep sleep but the old days of worn out tricks of blackmailing, scaring & fooling Americans with Socialism, Communism & "GOD-LESS" Atheism has been over for a while.

  • FYI, When Americans are losing their life-time earnings, jobs, homes, health & life insurance, savings, stocks, bonds & IRAs, no amount of scare-tactic will ever help Republicans to win the hearts & minds of America. Just like the Soviet "Perestroika & Glasnost", America is going through it's own "Perestroika & Glasnost", by electing Obama. GET USED TO IT!

  • For over 30 years, McCain has been in the American political drama & corrupt economic scandals. But, Obama, first time Senator most people never heard off just a year ago, winning enough votes to be the presidential nominee for democratic party has won a lot ALREADY. Rewriting American history, opening the gate for millions to follow, Obama is an American dream, a success by any standard of measurement, inspiring nations, more than McCain could EVER aspire to be or could ever take credit for.

  • Rewriting American History...you are correct. Obama will attempt to fundamentally change America. This Socialist, Zinn has done more harm to our nation than Obama ever will. His Rewriting of American History is an Obamanation. Leftist Socialism...God help us...

  • therealnews had a video months back showing exactly how Obama is pretty much all for empire. Suprising how many people think him contrarian. He's just a new can of spray paint on the same war machine. Sometimes I think McCain/Palin should win because then people will continue to realize what kind of imperial joke is being played on them. The more its in the open the more its discredited.

  • maybe but i doubt that he has so much time to waste show me proof. the only proof we have is this video. most people that are politically active are highly busy im sure he feels that it doesn't matter what rumors a few people spread his vote is still the same of coarse i don't know im still just asking for proof which i have not seen.

  • Zinn is voting for NADER according to Nader's camp.

    NADER/Gonzalez = WE the PEOPLE

    Democrat/Republican partY = THEY the CORPORATION$

    Vote NADER/Gonzalez '08!

  • CHICAGO, stats for Last 6 months:292 killed(murdered). 221 killed in Iraq. Who Runs Chicago? "Sen" Barack Hussein Obama Rep:JesseJacksonJr. Gov:Blogojevich. Rep.Mike Madigan, Mayor Daley..ALL DEMORATS. It's a combat zone in Chi-town,& they all blame each other! No Republicans in office!

    State pension fund $44 Bil IN DEBT, Chicago TAX 10.25% highest in USA, WORST SCHOOLS IN USA. This is obama-land..And he's gonna FIX D.C.? Obama says pull out of Iraq! U.S.A. Should pull out of obamas' Chicago

  • what is a demorat?

  • a demoRAT is the same as a RATpublican - politicians who are only in office to TAKE and STINK up the country...just like RATS who get into your house and pantry...vote obama or mccain...both are RATS..best scene is mccain wins, then croaks..Sarah is NOT a RAT..take a look at her record as Governor..then just TRY to take a look at obama's - it doesn't exist -

  • Sarah Palin is horrible. Not even close to being a good candidate. Right now, we need regulation since deregulation has failed. And Obama is the only one that offers that.

  • deregulation has not failed, the demoRAT congress and the RATpublican prez failed to enforce the laws - these RATS are of the same kind that Sarah put under the gun in Alaska..some of whom are doing time and some are still under the gun...you think socialism and higher taxes will help ANY economy? You are ready for obama lama ding dong...but most of us are not - if obama wins it will be a short lived (but very expensive) presidency like jimmy ()the RAT) carter's

  • That's not socialism idiot. IT IS THE REASON THE ECONOMY HAS FAILED. We have used regulation of businesses throughout American history, when they were destroying families and the economy. Without regulation, child labor would still exist.

  • to me the key point of this interview is the FACT that we need DIRECT ACTION this will be the only way for real change Mr. Zinn is right unity and standing up for our neighbors is needed as the man said civil dis-obedience

    rise up people lets take back America

  • Well Zinn has retracted the claim he will vote for Obama.

    tinyurl . com / ZinnnotObama

  • that site has no proof that he has said this anyone could have forged what they wrote

  • The Nader campaign sent out an email saying that Howard Zinn says he's voting for Nader: "Zinn admitted in an e-mail to our campaign that he made a mistake and now says he will vote for Nader. And Zinn urges all people of conscience to vote for the true progressive in slam dunk states. Of which there are now many."

  • lol an email is no evidence of anything easily forge able. we will see if the question ever comes up and if the words come from his mouth then we will know. im not saying that he hasn't changed his mind but that the site provided is not solid

  • I'm sure he'd respond to someone lying about his statement on whom he is voting on this year.

  • We'll see if Zinn says they were fake, he should know about it by now.

  • Very interesting if true. Could he really have made such a simple oversight? If you're considering a 'tactical' vote, it would seem that the state you live in would be the First thing to take into account.

  • It seems to be true, I haven't heard anything from Zinn claiming it was fake yet, we'll see though.

  • lol im sure he doesn't reply to every little statement that comes about over the internet so its likely that you wont hear anything nater is a waste of a vote but rep crooks fixed the last 2 elections why not this one right? not like your vote matters

  • o...k.

  • Zinn isn't voting for Obama after all.

    tinyurl . com / ZinnnotObama

  • Sadly, that 'is' true more often than not. I'd like to have faith in our evolving nation, but I do have to agree with you in some respect.

  • Spew out as much ivory tower theory as you want... "CHANGE" is still, just the latest buzzword for one party control of our government. nothing more........

  • Socialism! FUCK YEAH!

    OBAMA = MCCAIN = CFR = NO

    WAKE THE FUCK UP AMERICA AND RESTORE THE REPUBLIC YOUR FOREFATHERS SHED THEIR LIFE'S BLOOD TO CREATE.

  • To change a socieity, there must be a will to change. When no one believes in a better future despair is a logical choice and people in despair almost never change anything. When no one believes in the possibility of action apathy becomes an insurmountable obstacle to reform But introduce intelligent reasons for believing that action is possible that better solutions are available and that a better future can be built and you unleash the power of the people to Act out of their highest principles

  • Yeah it would be great if people participated in civil disobedience by preventing foreclosures of their neighbors and what not, but it won't happen. Americans just don't have the balls these days for something like that. They are too comfortable with their petty material things to care about their neighbor....in fact many people don't even know their fellow neighbors.

  • You do it then. Lead by example.

    No? Just like I thought. An armchair revolutionary, like Fakesagan.

  • Well I would love to....not sure how I would react if I found one of my neighbors in this situation, for example. Of course there isn't too much I can do alone.....this must be a group organized effort. For example me by myself can't block a bunch of foreclosurist by myself without fellow neighbors to protect....and most people don't want to get their feet wet so to speak.

    I don't blame Fakesagan for being an armchair revolutionary.....not like he or you alone can do much of anything.

  • In four years, his next book can be The Failure of Obamanation.

  • still better than "The McBook of War and Terror in the Nuclear Age"

  • semiliteratedgod,

    No national security and we will have no economy!

    With Obama's higher taxes on businesses, we'll just get higher unemployment and a repeat of the Carter years.

  • "No national security"

    wtf is wrong with you? Obama's gonna escalate the war in Afghanistan, and he's surrounded by hawks from both sides: Colin Powell, Madeleine Albright, Biden, etc. I think we will worry about TOO MUCH WARS under Obama....

    " and we will have no economy!"

    again, if you're satisfied with the current reality denying neocon crowd, vote McSame, My Friends.

    "higher taxes"

    Clinton's taxes were not so

    high. Somebody has to repay the debt anyway... The free market magic has failed.

  • semiliteratedgod,

    As a Marine veteran, I would never trust a Democrat! Sure, Obama has said a lot about Afghanistan and he has also mentioned that reinstating the draft is a good idea. His buddy Barney Frank has made comments of cutting the military by 25%.

    As for the economy, you are 27 and never expenienced Carter. You think that Bush is bad, things where much worse under Carter!

    So you think that free market is a failure, it will rebound and government control is NOT the answer!

  • Uhhh, it's a fact that the American economy does better under democrats.

    The economy will rebound if there is some intervention. This has been proven throughout history.

    Obama has never said anything about reinstating the draft.

    Bush administration is putting us in a far worse situation than Carter. Even Al Greenspan said this.

  • dlxsfBRUH,

    So you think that 1977 to 1980 was a booming time for the economy? At the age of 18, you have solved the economic crisis, just elect a Democrat! Remember, the latency effects of economic policy changes can take up to a full year or two before the full effects are appearant. Besides, the economy was going south when Clinton left office.

    The Dems have brought up the draft several times and Obama has even said that it should include women. The Repub are aganist instating the draft.

  • When did I say that was a good time for the economy?

    OBAMA HAS NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT REINSTATING THE DRAFT. Giuliani was talking about not having a problem with the military draft no?

    The economy going down was started with Carter. Then it got a little better. Then Reagan's "trickle down effect" and "deregulation for the spirit of free market" hit us hard. And the policy instituted of giving tax breaks to jobs that outsource overseas didn't help much.

  • dlxsfBRUH,

    As a veteran, I am aganist the draft. Just research it. Most of the time, it brought up by Dems. You are 18 and so it should be more of an issue for your generation.

    Free markets do work and there are cycles. Government control is not an answer. I am better off than most and I can ride out the bad times, but I don't want things made worse on the poor. When government go after businesses, the lower classes suffer more. I had to give my HR names for layoffs before and I hated it.

  • I have researched it. And I still haven't found anything on Obama being pro draft.

    There has been a lot more historical evidence in America, of regulating businesses when the economy is bad, then the free market. There is no free market, it's just unchecked capitalism that destroys the economy and job market.

  • I also never heard anything about the draft from democrats

  • But McCain did say that it may be a good idea (the draft)

  • "I would never trust a Democrat"

    I admire your infinite loyalty to the Republican party. But it has degraded a lot.

    Just saying.

    "Obama has said a lot"

    I think on foreign policies he will do exactly what his advisers are gonna suggest. This is the kind of guy he is. Frankly I don't even care what he's saying now.

    "Carter"

    He had to deal with Iran-Iraq war, he wasn't lucky

    "free market"

    I believe in idiocy of financial institution's CEOs and in balanced budget (or at least decreasing deficit!)

  • semiliteratedgod,

    Carter had to deal with Iran-Iraq war. You are a moron! That started during the last months of Carter's term and lasted through Reagan's second term. A year into Reagan's first term, the economy magically turned around. Please, enlighten me more about Carter. Maybe you explain how much better he was as to Bush.

  • caltvater,

    fucking scumbag, Carter was much better than Bush!

    Brainless inbred dog-minded dipshit, you are able to evaluate presidents only based on your feelings in your ass.

    Carter had a very good plan which would have reduced the energy dependency greatly, but brainless masses of rednecks and other scum had resisted and because of the hostage crisis he couldn't get reelected.

    Under Bush's criminal government the economy has simply collapsed and the debt has doubled, richest 1% got richer.GTFO

  • semiliteratedgod,

    Now I see your problem, you have BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome). Sure Carter had a plan. I remember his speech when he told Americans to adjust their thermostats. I also remember higher unemployment and inflation! And those are FACTS!

    Since you a raving fan of Obamanomics, I'm sure that you will happy with the next four years, no matter which way the economy goes.

    I may be a scumbag, but I'm converting 230K in my IRA to a Roth when the market drops on Wednesday!

  • you must love living in a supercorrupt neocon police state.

    Your argument is stupid, the majority of investors supports Obama. But the crisis is far from over yet, so Roth IRA may be a good idea. Go sell your Blackwater & KBR stocks!

    Carter's average unemployment rate was 6.7%, that's with a raving OPEC and devastating Gulf war. Reagan got more!

    Your own words:

    "Remember, the latency effects of economic policy changes can take up to a full year or two"

    And Bush's term isn't even over yet...

  • Actually, Carter's highest rate was 7.5%, but inflation did hit 12% and interest rates rose to 20%.

    Hey, you are passionate about this and I do respect that. So here a bit of investors advice, if you have an IRA or 401K, research Guaranteed Retirement Accounts or GRAs. The story broke on this two weeks ago and Dems want to replace IRA/401Ks with these accounts. If it happens, you will have another year to take advantage of the current tax law. The new accounts will only be invested in bonds.

  • You're an old fuck, you must remember Reagan's "Its morning again in America. Today more men and women will go to work than ever before in our countrys history." ad from 1984

    Unemployment rate in 1984?

    It was 7.2%!

    Much more than Carter's average! Trust me, history proves that the Republicans are bad for the economy, Democrats are good for the economy. It's that simple. The rest is just Rep. propaganda!

    Foreign policy is legitimate concern economy is not."rebuilding alliances" may work tho.