Paris Metro - Platform Edge Doors

[rangelso]

They should stop this subway from operating. I got almost separated from my kids TWICE in 2 DAYS in Paris metro on leisure weekend in maybe total 8 rides !. I was forced to literally rip my kids through the dumb closing door with half of us still on the platform and half already in a train. A couple of adults got separated - then man on a platform and girl inside as she didn't make it out on time !. Are those drivers crasy ! What is this ? I wander how often this happens to people in Paris

[MANMETR]

@rangelso Im living in Paris for 10 years I never Had this problem. You are just not used to it.. :)

[RuberChikken]

no way! wow we need this in montreal

[MTVPrezes]

simple and super idea !

[poopsonlavega]

Oh putain, l'arrêt parfait :)

[volunteerz]

We would definitely need such of a system in suicidal Stockholm underground.

Another problem arises if very stressed people get caught between those doors.

[jasperleeyide]

lol thats the same kind of platform screen doors used by Singapore for a few stations above ground.

[scscorinthians]

plataform doors, sao paulo Brasil

/watch?v=lw4ddC69R5w

[HappyRussians]

Why didn't they keep those?

[XPJ38]

@HappyRussians : the RATP is installing new platform edge doors at this moment. Actually, there are present at the station Miromesnil on the line 13, and coming soon at Saint Lazare. And there are few stations on the line 1 with the same type of doors (La Défense - Argentine and some between Bérault and Porte de Vincennes).

[EdM021]

The platform screen doors are a good idea; transit authorities here in the United States should try it. But it ain't going to happen until there is a lawsuit to make it happen. Why? Inertia, and the perception that rapid transit motormen can't be relied upon to stop precisely. And where is that perception held most dear? Could it be in the transit authorities' management and the motormen's unions???

[plbt101]

@EdM021 With double gates, we can easily lay off motormen : why are they still employed except for checking no one is trying to enter trains while doors are closing

[EdM021]

@plbt101 Actually don't the motormen drive the trains??? If not, why are they called motormen?

[flynny42]

Shud be goin to paris soon so thanks!! Now i hav an idea of what its like

[marielakilleuze]

nn plutot liege

[DBMatze93]

It's interesting that the platform is so short. Perhaps that's normal in paris metro system, but it's the first time I see so short platforms for this length of a "train"

[Abangsin]

Yes it was on test in the line 13 (Invalides and Saint Lazare) in 2006.

[jeax75]

they removed those on line 13

[Doomsday2060]

We cope quite well at embankment at 5.46 in the evening. You throw 2 pence up in the air and it won;t touch the ground but still no one falls on the tracks.

[skybluem]

is this line 14?

[jupiter1716]

No, 13.

[skybluem]

are you sure it's 13? because we used line:13 * direction: porte de clichy* many times this August and never came across those doors.

[jupiter1716]

Yeah, I recognise the rolling stock. They're from line 13. Though not all stations are equipped with platform edge doors yet.

[Furitokama]

Yes it was on test in the line 13 (Invalides and Saint Lazare) in 2006.

Now the only station with PED on this line is Chatillon Montrouge.

Anyway several other stations will have it by 2010-11 on this line.

[artak12]

Not only, i saw these doors at "Bérault" in the 1st line...

[yaypurplecheese]

...AND

[dannybOMFG]

wow whats the purpose...you can still jump over them

[kelvintwt]

good point

[kelvintwt]

they have this here..but not in all stations along the line..

[thibaulthalpern]

The point isn't to prevent you intentionally jumping over them. The point is to prevent being accidentally pushed off the platform (e.g., during rush hour) or from you dangerously skirting close to the edge of the platform.

[Fr1tzEuro]

good comment.

[xjabi]

you can't fall of the playform though

[balaneanmihaibogdan]

Comment s'appelle ca station??

[isokessu]

what if somebody gets stuck over there. by the way those things will come in helsinki and even the trains will drive themselves. well somehow i don't trust that it's safe :D

[Monkeyshouts]

If you want to commit suicide you can still jump the doors. They're not safety at all, because it allows more imaginative performances.

[kevagonia]

yes they're safe. they keep people from falling onto tracks, and children especially

[lenagard2]

cool

[NeoFalcon69]

I actually like the safely doors but I have experienced times where the driver didn't align the train doors with the platform doors properly often having to move to the next station. I guess they already have sorted out the problem with somekind of automatic or auto alignment device to assist drivers.

[EquuleusPictor]

in London they missalign often on the Jubilee

[NeoFalcon69]

I'm suprised for such a new line they haven't installed somekind of device that assist drivers to lineup with the doors automatically.

[xpehkto]

There are not drivers on this Paris Metro line at all. It's full automatic line.

[NeoFalcon69]

Sorry I was referring to another subway system.

[sebasdu92]

Devenez libre.

Pour tous eux qui sentent pris en otage, prenez des jours de repos, déplacer vous en vélo, habiter près de votre lieu de travail,.... vous verrez çà ira lieux. Puis si ya pas d'autre solution offrez-vous un scooter.

[Wildflowers01]

I wish they could put those doors in all the metro lines. I think that would be great. Supposedly it costs something like 9 million € a year in damages from suicide attempts in the metro. Seems like those doors would pay for themselves!

[emma1121886618128]

how do you do the euro sighn??!!

[OMGLysses]

They have that kind of problem in Paris?! Jeez o.o

[DocileBomb]

Alt + 4 (NOT the keypad 4, the numberline 4.)

[kevagonia]

you mean F4>?

[DocileBomb]

This was a reply to emma 1121886618128. Alt Gr and the numberline 4 produces the € symbol. Alt and F4 closes the open window. If anyone pressed Alt and F4, I am sorry.

[PorcuVasile]

That's line 14 in Paris. The reason for the fence is to stop suicide attempts. Since trains are driverless any such attempt would turn into a HORRORSHOW with the body dragged for kilometers and nobody to stop it. (sure they have sensors but you never know...)

[claventin]

The reason of double gates is not to prevent suicide attempts, it's to prevent dumbasses to wander on the tracks which represents 80% of the causes of traffic disruption. Not everyone walks on the tracks to get killed, there are many reasons : urban art, seeking access to catacombs, DaVinci code syndrome, etc ...

[NEXT300]

he means the same thing

[claventin]

Perhaps, anyway he's wrong. Line 14 is equipped with infrared sensors and anything on the track would be detected and traffic immediately stopped. In Lyon, we have a fully automated subway line since 1992 and we don't even have protection fence. The machine is automated but it's not stupid.

[elwenrohendil]

Anyway, he's wrong, since this is not line 14 AT ALL..... ^^ The trains on line 14 are completely different. I believe this is line 7, 8 or 13, since they are the only ones with that kind of trains.

[PascalB406]

Yes, this is line 13. It used to be equipped with this kind of gates last year.

[VideoGameSpeed]

Isn't that the line that goes to Gare De Lyon?

[thedarkestcloud]

"Its on the Jubilee Line extension. Westminster - North Greenwich has PEDs "

Not at all, it's on line 13 (ligne 13) in Paris @ Invalides

[hatecrewsix2]

what is this station?

[AndrooUK]

I've seen doors similar to that in one of the London Underground stations, can't remember which station/line though. Just hope you don't get trapped in them. :P

[dungeoneer]

jubilee line, they stop suicide attempts.

[AppleOranges12]

Its on the Jubilee Line extension. Westminster - North Greenwich has PEDs

[rubenc83]

I've never seen that before. They'll probably keep people from falling on the tracks.

[sylvainv]

amazing -_-'