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  • The reordering of that scene actually delivers the material in a much more emotionally compelling way. You have a very good eye for timing.

  • Where did catherine go at the end

  • .....I never get emotional from a TV show. Except when a character dies when I don't expect it. NOW YOU'VE GOT ME ALL EMOTIONAL! *sniffle* Sooo....sooo...bittersweet! *goes off with a tissue*

  • i hate donna!!! i hate how they keep switching the main charactors ....it makes me sooo sad:( i thought david tennant and rose made such a perfect couple. i breaks my heart

  • I miss Rose :'(

  • @seduff I'm not sure u do requests or anything, but could u make a video for Words I Couldn't Say by Rascall Flats? I think it would be fantastic if u did! Does anybody else agree?

  • i skipped ahead and watched the season 4 finale to compare it to this and this is better in my opinion. it seems a lot more romantic. the original version feels so forced.

  • Beautifully done! Definitely made the scene flow better.

    Made me tear up even more than the original. <3

  • Omfg this is sooooo good. It's not dodgy in parts I didn't even notice it. I was zoo warm n this cured me of the doomsday episode I saw last night. Thanxs 4 makinge betta

  • I can't fully remember how the original went, so can someone explain the differences please?? :D

  • I definitely prefer this to the order of events in the actual ending. Much more personal and romantic. <3

  • I want Human Doctor and Rose to come back some time... happily married with a little blonde-haired daughter... named Donna

  • @sammieoniell i agree, just without the daughter :D

  • This is amazing. I've seen people try to change the ending to have Rose with 10, but I feel like this fixes any problems there are with her being with 10.5. I don't think Rose and 10 could be together after series 2; he's changed since then, but she hasn't. She needs a chance to love someone who can love her. The Doctor also needs someone he can be with. I think when other fans change the ending to get Rose with 10, they forget that 10.5 is a person too. This is the way it should have gone.

  • I really like this ending more then the original. Though I still cry...at this moment also. I was so mad that she had stayed and had to live with the second doctor. Oh well, this ending like I said is much better for me for the ending of the 4 season.

  • This was brilliant. Nothing more needs to be said.

  • This was just lovely, really lovely. None-the-less I still have that feeling that he isn't the "real" doctor and that somehow it's a cheat. I wanted and still want Chris or David as the Doctor on the show and want them with Billie as Rose, nothing else in all the series ( and I've watched a really high percentage of even the really old ones ) comes close to the story of Rose and the Doctor. I want them to end the whole thing with he and Rose being together forever.

  • @Rachailbabe And wouldn't it be ironic if because she'd had the heart of the TARDIS in her, she was now like the doctor, and only finds out after the human doctor dies?!

  • perfect except for the fact that Donna has mysteriously vanished...

  • @ZachValkyrie Thanks. Donna was not included as this isn't a 'Journey's End' Recut, but 'Bad Wolf Bay'. And the you tube video upload length wasn't long enough to include it anyway. ;)

  • I think this version is better than the original much smoother edit

  • brrrr this alternate version sends shivers down my spine - it's so beautiful. and every time i watch it i just want to cry all over again...

  • I HATE THIS WHOLE THING SO MUCH!!!

    I mean... I like this ending better

    BUT THIS FUCKING SUCKS!!! I mean really, the doctor never just gets to be happy? She has the other doctor, but she can't travel anymore, it's just not ideal!! So the real doctor gets to spend the rest of eternity knowing that the one girl he really loves is with him, but he'll never get to experience it!! WHAT THE HELL!!!??? Fucking pisses me off....

  • Aww when 10.5 leans in to whisper in Rose's ear, the real Doctor gulps.... that gets me the most. I feel for him. :'(

  • Even though the Doctor has Rose, its still the Doctor's pain. He saw himself being with her, but the him now still can't spend that time with her. And he's lost everyone. Lots and lots of pain that the audience still feels. Meh. :( But thanks for uploading.

  • OMG!!! BEAUTIFUL!! That's the only way to describe it!

    At the end there the Doctor's probably more than a little envious of his other self.

  • wait, i thought that's how it actually ended... or something along those lines... but the very end was much more smooth then the original.

  • @Janiemanie1993 In the original, the human doctor speaks to her in front of everyone, which I found quite awkward and impersonal. Here he explains their fate once the the Doctor leaves. Giving her a chance to react emotionally. ;) That was my goal anyway. (its a reshuffle/edit of the scene) :)

  • @seduff oh, i see now! yeah, i like it better your way.

  • @seduff This ending is so much better than the real one, I can't believe it. it hurts a lot less to watch, in a good way. And you edited it together REALLY well. I always nitpick these sorts of things and there's absolutely nothing to nitpick, so you're amazing. Also, "Nobody Sees" is my favorite fan video of all time. *high five*

  • @jupitertronic *high fives* Thanks! So glad to hear I passed your nitpick test. lol. And that you also enjoyed Nobody Sees...That's just brilliant. *beams*

  • Fail, because I'm still crying...

  • ok, it was good how you changed it all around, but it's still sad all the same, at least rose still has the doctor she loved, even in the proper ending, not just this one, they'll live together forever now, in the parellel world

  • Although they all say the same thing, it's so much better, more moving. The Doctor looked so much sadder. They should have made him this upseat in the acctual episode. The music goes perfectly, too - I was almost in tears!!

  • The best yet worst place in this entire series is Bad Wolf Bay. But I will always love it and no matter what episode it's in the place is sad adn "Absolutly Fantastic!"

  • please tell me how you removed the music

  • So sad. so SAD!

  • that just made me cry....

  • is that the music from the end of the lemony snicket movie?

  • @Hailey5210 There was a song at the end of Lemony Snicket called "Drive Away" also by Thomas Newman but it isn't the same. I think the "Walk Away" song might be in a different movie that he composed for... Also "Walk Away" sounds kinda similar to the song at the end of the Snicket movie called "The Letter that Never Came"

  • I like that ending.

  • why in gods name didnt i say that to my ex

    "i have only got one life i could spend it with you if you want" epic quote

  • Love it, way better than the original ending:)

  • Jakie to wzruszające, piękne... wiadomo, że w tv nie mogli pokazać naprawdę dobrego zakończenia, się nie znają ćmoki, ale co tam, miło, że przynajmniej nakręcili alternatywne i postać Rose już do końca będzie ze swoim ukochanym :))

  • If Biullie Piper is in it, that's good enough for me :D

  • So that ending made me cry...AGAIN! Lol I was thinking it was gonna be some ending where Donna didn't have to go or something Lol

  • WHEN THE FUCK DID THIS COME OUT???????????

  • *shakes fist* DAMN YOU BBCA!!!!!

  • wait I'm so confused

  • thsi is originally better than what was on tv because of the backgroudn music

  • but btw somehow i hate the doctor because he stoled Rose from Mikey....the rule of mans....dont steal other's man's girl -,..,-

    it hink my eng its pretty bad btw :P

  • does it need saying? so sweet awww I started crying so hard

  • music is on "Meet Joe Black" sound track as well.

  • I will not cry.....I will not cry.....I will not---- WWWAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!

  • In the scene the doctor and rose recive a piece of tardis coral, it was cut in the tv version but you can see it in the dvd version.

  • Much better than the original thank you. Still makes me cry the parting of the ways of David tennant and Billie Piper.

  • seriously, this is amazing, it's so much better than the actual one.

    it gives me closure about rose, and like @reader4077 said, it makes me feel like rose was happier, and everything was fine.

    plus the music was so much better.

  • This was the ending I saw. Now whenever I watch this episode on BBCA they cut this part out. BOOOOO

    This is the most heart breaking yet best scene.

  • I'm sobbing. You're brilliant.

  • This came very near to making me cry. A much more fulfilling ending for us Ten/Rose fans. :)

  • Wonderful cut, really like it better than the original. How did you change the music and not have it affect the dialogue?

  • can you please give me the names of the pieces? I know they were by Thomas Newman (wrote score for matilda! love him) but i need to know the names of the songs. beautiful work by the way, though i'm still sad about the doctor being left alone...i guess in a sick sort of way he wouldn't be the doctor if he didn't end up alone.

  • Ah, this is much better. I always felt like the version we got, Rose wasn't getting her happy ending. I mean, sure they held hands at the end but neither her nor Doctor 2 looked particularly happy. A smile would have fixed. That's it. Just one happy looking smile. Or a re-edit such as this. I dunno. I still feel a tad let down by the version we got even though I adore finally knowing Rose has a Doctor all of her own; lucky girl!

  • amazing stuff <3 made me tear up. ):

  • it should have ended this way not whit rose pretty sad although i stil hate the doctor in pain well the tenth doctor

  • awww - I get butterflies in my stomach everytime I see that (extended) kiss...

  • i think this one is wayyy sadder then the one they ended up going with, but I do like how this kiss isnt cut off in this one.

  • I love how you made the Doctor and Donna leave before Rose and the Doctor Copy had that talk. Felt much more fluid and natural. And you really felt more like they were a couple :)

  • I love this ending, i prefer it to the actual one! This is a very good edit, i love the background music, it fits so well.

  • I watched this loads of times and i always start crying everytime :'(

  • I can't see how the other Doctor came to be human. He was the Doctor's old hand (time lord hand), and regeneration power from a time lord bought him to life. Everything suggests that he should have become a time lord to me.

  • I cried at the end of this but... i hated rose to be honest, i wish he stayed with Martha!

    I mean I cried when rose and The doctor got separated in season two but once Martha came in. I happy for Rose I guess but still.

  • how did you change the music and still have them talking in it?

  • absolutely fantastic !!! your a legend !!! miss david tennant he was brill . thank you so much shame no add on after the credits though lol

  • I like this version. Having Doctor#2 tell her that after he leaves fits so much better. And I did love in this episode that she had the Doctor to herself finally, a partially human version of him with the same memories (so he remembers all he and Rose did together, etc.), the same brain, but one life to live with her was perfect. She loved Ten just the way he was, and it was clear from her fear of him regenerating that she wanted Ten, not another version.

  • aww, i'm crying. again. that is so romantic, and tragic.

  • This is actually better than the original. Absolutely astounding, your vids never cease to amaze me

  • That symphonic piece in the background, does anybody know its title? I love it a lot, it matches so well with the scene.

  • @ArchangelGMichel The background music is a mix of a few pieces composed by Thomas Newman. Glad you feel it suits the scene. :)

  • @seduff It is truly magnificent. Thomas Newman's truly a remarkable musician to come up with this.

  • @seduff Sounds alot like Lord of the Rings... O.o

  • @seduff what are the names of the few pieces by thomas newman in here?

  • @seduff aww that was nicely done...loved watching it! :) Isn't that the soundtrack from Meet Joe Black? 

  • OMGOMGOMGOMG<3<3<3<3<3

  • wow

    

  • this is so much better than the actual ending... it feels, i dont know, more like i can move on from rose now.... i almost feel better... that's shes happier. if that makes any sense at all. thank you :)

  • @Reader4077 Thank you for commenting. It's lovely to hear that you enjoyed this re-cut. And you are very welcome. x

  • @Reader4077 but....its kind of wierd...like a lie....you live in a lie....its not the true doctor ...where she lived all the adventure ...and what about the true doctor.....its a real big pain for him...:(for me 2 :|

  • I'm from Norway and had to laugh a bit at their pronunciation of the beach, and it's SO random that so important scenes take place in""bloody" norway. Bergen of all places!

  • GOD I love this show...;)

    Tennant was and always will be 'My Doctor'...thank you for this, excellent work as always!

  • I love it, but its still sad...and i would have loved to see how the two of them worked out together..it'd be a neat lil spin off to have, and i'm sure i'm not the only one who'd like to see it, still wish she could have stayed with The Doctor tho

  • Oh and I meant to say about the shots at the end. Where they taken from a different episode? His hair is wet and the colour 'white' has been altered to a 'blue'ish colour

  • @artymarty73 end of same episode after he dropped Donna off.

  • @artymarty73 episode is Journey's End

  • I love this version of this. I've only just noticed that there are extra shots of them kissing added in. They're not on the original either cos I just checked. Where did you get them from? Did you get them shots from the DW Confidential or something?

    Thanks for uploading another amazing video. Loved it as always ;D

  • the original one looks heartbroken.I really cant believe after all he put trouh with her she comes up with a copy.

  • Oh my god, this is the ultimate ending!! I would have loved that!!!!!!

    Wish BBC would take you as a cutter!

  • I cried again. This was really good.

  • Woahh...

    Much Better than the orrigainal ending!

    Poor Doctor, He was all on his own :(

    Loved it =)

  • Awesome!

  • You really did a great job ! I love it !!!

  • Wish I could give this another 5 stars. Now they just have the thumbs up thingy... but you are by far my favorite YTer and Doctor Who editor.

  • @scubadogg That's lovely of you to say. I'm very lucky to have such wonderful and supportive subscribers. :) Yeah, I'm not really a fan of the new thumbs up or down rating system, as it's not as true a representation of a videos quality or content. The star ratings used to stand for so much more. Thanks again, Sarah x

  • @seduff I agree, but I can see the logic behind the decision to change the system. For the most part, people only ever gave one or five stars anyway.

  • Tennant Virus is all over the Europe!

  • Ugh, she's so lucky!

  • Love the usic. What's it called?

  • This leaves it open so that Billie Piper and David Tennant can come back on the show at some point (as Rose and the human Doctor). Wouldn't that be interesting to see somewhere down the line?

  • @geistjagerin That would be sooooo great!

  • @geistjagerin I thought how Rose left in Doomsday was amazingly emotional and although it wasn't my fave send off for a companion, I felt it was one of the best. When I heard she was returning for series 4 I was annoyed. I feel when a character leaves as well as she did they should stay gone but I was pleasently surprised and enjoyed her return and they sent her off well again. I don't want Rose to come back as that mini era of dr who is over. We said our fond farewells and its time to move on.

  • brilliant. need an editing job with these ppl.

  • just rewatched this for the millionth time and it still makes me cry!

    it was so beautifully done and the sound quality was superb - how do you manage it?!

    so in short brilliant once again :D

  • I will never get tired of watching this video, no matter how many times it makes me bawl my eyes out. It's just beautiful. No other words can summarize it up. It's beautiful.

  • The original left me angry with the doctor... this version really got the feeling that I'm sure the writers were intending for us to feel. And now I'm happy for Rose because she's the only companion who gets to keep the doctor.

    Although I kind of wish that you had included Donna at the very end- because at that point I was wondering how you were going to continue that beautiful scene and not leave us wondering what Donna's fate was. But you didn't.

    The music is gorgeous.

  • @Dannyri101 Sorry for not including Donna's scene, but it would have turned this from a 3 minute video into a 15 minute one, which is too long to upload. And seeing as i could not change her fate it seemed superfluous really. I felt this specific scene needed a moment alone between the human doctor and rose, to help her to understand what the doctor was truly giving her.

    Glad you enjoyed the re-score. :) Thank you.

  • The original made me cry... this was worse for that but gave a better sense of closure. The original seemed a bit cold towards Rose and was anyone else extremely unhappy with the doctor/rose moment when David Tennant left?

  • @JoannaMatt YES! >8(

  • well.. this is..amazing!

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!

    it really made my day.

    after crying the whole week and replay the vid as often as i could it's now just like healing the wound the original scene left on my heart.

    now i can finaly go on xD

    but the pain that david tennant left is still there xD

    and i have to say it again: thank you so much! :3

  • @TheYamiNeko You are so very welcome. I am thrilled to her how much you enjoyed this particular edit and that it may have healed some wounds the original left (in all of us.) Thank You. :)

  • @seduff I don't see where you edited? And I don't like this as much as I could. I agree with Rose when she said, "It's not you." I know it couldn't have happened any other way. But still, the copy isn't as good as the orignal.

  • @jjppf Thanks for your opinion on this, sorry you didn't like it. However I indeed have altered the arrangement of the clips and there was quite a substantial number of tiny edits, which may not be obvious to the viewer, which btw is how editing should be, unnoticed. In this version the Human Doctor and Rose discuss their situation/future in private once the Doctor has departed. Also Rose does not cry in the original version when the TARDIS departs. Cheers. :)

  • This made me cry -- although, in all honesty, everything related to Ten makes me cry right now. This was gorgeous. Where was the extended kiss shown?

  • How did you rescore it??

  • @DoctorWhoCenter2010 - Sadly I couldn't actually re-score this version, as the original music was embedded in the 'stereo' download at the time. I merely masked it with the new score and for some areas i removed the original audio completely and added my own sound effects/music. Having said that, i could make a new version with clearer audio now that 5.1 sound is available, which i am very tempted to do at some point :)

  • Actually made me cry a bit.

    I loved it :)

  • SEDUFF - you are amazing. Loved this when i originally saw this and love it now. This justs fits together so much more beautifully. Really feel for the lonely doctor (and of course there's hope for Rose and human Doctor!)

  • Oh god, where do I even begin to explain how much I love this recut. First of all, your music choice is brilliant! It's an amazingly powerful piece that goes well the scene.

    Second, watching this is was getting 6 months of therapy to fix the emotional confusion the original caused me. Having her talk to the half-human Doctor at the end of the scene rather than the beginning was extremely cathartic. Thank you so much for making this. Faving, and downloading the file.

  • @Neptune4747 Thank you so much for letting me know how much you enjoyed this re-cut. It always amazes me how a simple change in the order of scenes can alter the viewers emotional response. It's all this scene needed really. The original version left us feeling rather cold towards the new doctor, and yet he still IS the doctor. Her doctor. And even though we feel for the timelord, we know they can have what he never could and live their life, day after day... together. :)

  • That scene is everything I had wished for! I was so intensely disappointed that they cut the kiss. It showed just how much he really did love her, while during the series you kinda of knew, but it was like he couldn't admit it to himself. You blended it beautifully. Thank you SO much!

  • @Pheonx21 I agree with you, about the Doctor part especially. But you know what really sucks? The original Doctor is left without ever being able to admit it, or ever being able to experience it....I feel like it's cruel, the way the writers always make it so he can't have that one thing he must be just dying for; a normal life. I hate it, but it really addds on to the Doctor's character, it explains him so well; the sufferer, the strong, the one who is deprived of something so basic.

  • I really like this alternate ending. Somehow it adds a bit of closure to that scene at the beach. It just feels....not happier...just that everything will work out (moreso than the original). Good job with the editing, as usual. :)

  • The end of this and the actual episode made me feel so bad for the Doctor. Everyone else has a happy or semi happy ending leaving him on his own. : (

  • There is another end that the doctor looks at a screen and behind him were two cybermen

  • I think it be cool if the clone doctor eventually became Valeyard and took the master's place as his arch nemesis .

  • omg!! i new it, bless him, i wud've shagged im if he sed that to me lol xx

  • wat duz he actually say??

    x

  • Rose: What was the last thing you said to me?

    Doctor: I said 'Rose Tyler'

    made me lol

  • I love DT as well, I would do any thing it bring him back as the Doctor! He was perfect. Cute, funny, charming, got mad at the right parts, and sad. Made me watch doctor who and not turn off the tv... miss you!!!

  • Oh! This made me tear up a bit at the end :) I love them so much!

  • There was a video on here on YT where DT gave the human Doctor a piece of Tardis to grow his own Tardis...It would be really great to use this to bring him back! Cmon...this is Doctor Who...They can do anything....I say we start a petition to bring DT back as the PERMANENT Doctor...Sorry people....Just like DT to much..

  • Found it! This how they could bring Tennant BACK!

    watch?v=yvW-Tzyl23M

  • @moderndaysamson I think Matt Smith should accidently fall through the rift and find them, make the episode one of those triple roll over ones the endings of series' are so prone to.

    it wouldn't work to have him back because he grows old like a human :(

    but you're right, this IS doctor who, if Matt had to regenerate on the parrallel earth and human-David was near, it could creat a fussiony thingy... (not as good with science words at the doctor is :P)

  • Thanx Jordy..Thumbs up for the kind comment.

  • @jordy2583 The Meta-Crisis Tenth Doctor was created as a result of an instantaneous biological Meta Crisis Regenerative energies present within The Doctor's severed hand combined with the Human DNA of Donna Noble when she touched the hand's casing The force of the reaction shattered the case allowing the energy to regenerate the entire missing body of the Doctor creating a Time Lord/Human hybrid, a hybrid that possessed one heart, aged as Humans do and with no regenerative ability to avoid death

  • I know, it was just a little idea a friend and i had as a joke/wish because we loved David's doctor so much. We're fully aware of the impossibilty of our idea and how the other doctor was created.

  • This isnt an Alternate Ending its the ending of Journey's End series 4

  • peterwjones: It is a reshuffle/alternate cut of the Bad Wolf Bay scene. Not Journey's End. :) I couldn't change the episode outcome, just recut this scene the way i wanted it.

  • You know- the idea of a human Doctor Who could resolve the issues surrounding the non-canon movies that starred Peter Cushing. Maybe in that sealed off parallel universe- Rose and the Doctor have children, eventually grandchildren and the Doctor does invent (or re-create) a version of the TARDIS to stave off the invasion of the DALEKS. - It could work as a series of independent films.

  • it still seems wrong though, he is a clone, not THE doctor, but i thinkits the only way they can be together.

    russel t davis is so good.

  • I realized today (while crying hysterically over the loss of David Tennant as the Doctor) that because of this ending, there is a perfectly easy way to bring David back on the show for an episode or two without it having to be flashbacks or anything, and he would have the same personality and knowledge...he'd be everything he was as Doctor Who because a version of him still exists in the Doctor Who universe! Fingers crossed for that possible future episode! (Preferably with Rose as well).

  • QuiteIgnorant: We can only hope. At comic con, they seemed impressed at the response from the audience for the possibility of David becoming the 'movie' Doctor. Can only hope they think about bringing his clone back one day. :)

  • Well, at least we know that there is still one Tenth Doctor who got exactly what he deserved

  • I'm sorry, this was a great video and edit and all, but I'm sort of confused. o.o

    What was the difference from the actual episode? -is super confused now-

    x DD

  • Absolutely wonderful!!!! I cried so much when I first watched this part I will forever ship Doctor/Rose, I love how you re-edited it, it still flowed xoxo

  • wow its absolutley brill. i love how you edited it i could hardly tell the diffrence i only could tell because i've seen the actual episode, you should so take this kind of thing up and make a carer out of it, either now or after you've left school depending on your age.

    i would love to see an edit of that where rose kisses the proper doctor and not the half human doctor. hope you'll try and do that in the future.

    but very well done with this vid its "molto bene" well done "fantastic"

  • Thank you.. Sarah that's a much nicer ending for Wose..

    (If it's really the end.)

  • He gets wet because its raining after he puts Donna back with her family. That clip isn't straight after he leaves Bad Wolf bay.

  • Poor Rose- you could tell she wanted the real Doctor, I don't think she'd go for what's basically his clone. But at least this way she can stay with the David Tennant version :)

  • Dude, that was just beautiful. Thank you.

  • love this vid 2 david tennants or doctors wow twice the hotness

  • I think this ending more fit the attitude of Doctor 10. Before you know it, poof, he's gone. VERY well done. You get a job at BBC yet? :)

  • That was great, thanks

  • This makes what the Doctor has to go through, even harder to understand. Magnificent, just magnificent.

  • I can't stop watching this video! Russell should take some cues from you love! You are so talented at what you do.

  • Very beautiful, and much better than the original! :)

  • This was gorgeous, thank you for making this, and using a Thomas Newman piece as well, I love his work.

  • @rgrippen this is all from series 4 cause at the very end the doctor gets wet because it was raining

  • I know it's from series 4, and I didn't say anything about him being soaked with rain. You must be talking about the Family of Blood arc, yes it was raining heavily, and David was also ill.

  • twism4laif: Pardon!? There is no series 2 in this whatsoever. Have no idea what you are talking about. :) This has been re-cut from series 4. Think you may want to go and watch it again. Cheers. :)

  • apparently you didnt watch the end of season four, this is all season four clips and by far a better ending than what season four gave us. so to seduff GREAT JOB!

  • Yeah unless you actualy know what ure talking about, it's best just to refrain from abusing ure keyboard and our eyes.

  • Sorry mate but it's got nothing to do with series 2. It's simply a re-edit of the series 4 ending which, btw, is brilliant! Top banana Seduff!! :D

  • I liked this ending so...so...so much better : O