Since the 78 rpm records of the Light Ray process dont process the wow, i sepect it's because the playback lens is taking too infomation at once, The flim is a outline of sound waves so if lens is focused on too wide a field the sound produced will be an average sounds from of a few mili secs before and after one pecticular moment of sound is on the flim. Think of infinity tracks of sound playback a few milisec apart from each other than averaged out resulting in wow and a crude high pass fliter
@Zefrenm No, this makes no sense at all. The Brunswick Light Ray recordings only used the mirror microphone, but otherwise are regular electrical disc recordings. If an optical sound head is focused on too wide a field, you would hear a muffled recording with no high frequencies. The pitch problems are pure wow and flutter from a wavering speed of the film itself. It would be like putting a Brunswick record off-center on the turntable or turning it by hand.
@Zefrenm I have done a lot of research on all types of recording including this. The video you reference will tell you correctly all about the light-ray microphone which was called the Pallotrope, and Brunswick/Polydor's use has nothing to do with sound-on-film recording. In fact, the WGY films were not made with this microphone, but by connection to a radio receiver. The wavering pitch on the film is from design defects in the playback machine which they are correcting.
(Part 2) There also was an annual award of a gold medal for Good Diction On The Radio sponsored by the American Acadamy of Arts and Letters which was actively promoting the use of radio to teach all Americans how to speak. David Ross won the first award followed by Alwyn Bach, both of whom had fake sweet accents. Info of the convention at FOTR.com and there also will be a talk and demo on the Pallophotophone on Sat morning Oct 23, 2010.
There also was an annual award of a gold medal for Good Diction On The Radio sponsored by the American Acadamy of Arts and Letters which was actively promoting the use of radio to teach all Americans how to speak. David Ross won the first award followed by Alwyn Bach, both of whom had fake sweet accents. Info of the convention at FOTR.com and there also will be a talk and demo on the Pallophotophone on Sat morning Oct 23, 2010.
@CassetteMaster Funny you should ask. I am going to be doing a presentation on the subject of Announcing Styles of the 1920s next month (October 22, 2010) at the Friends of Old Time Radio. Announcing was still evolving at the time. Some had regional accents, some declaimed like old time stump speakers, but some tried to be syrupy sweet with pseudo-sophistocated accents. CBS emulated sweetness of David Ross & Frank Knight, NBC Blue Milton Cross, and NBC Red Graham McNamee who was bland.
I was also astonished to hear that the voices suffered little from the wow, but there IS instability in the voices if you listen carefully. The announcer on the B.A. Rolfe Lucky Strike Dance Orchestra program -- who might be Westbrook Van Voorhis -- does not fare as well with the wow as these voices did. We do hope the museum will soon get a grant and be able to retransfer and release the recordings.
Since the 78 rpm records of the Light Ray process dont process the wow, i sepect it's because the playback lens is taking too infomation at once, The flim is a outline of sound waves so if lens is focused on too wide a field the sound produced will be an average sounds from of a few mili secs before and after one pecticular moment of sound is on the flim. Think of infinity tracks of sound playback a few milisec apart from each other than averaged out resulting in wow and a crude high pass fliter
Zefrenm 1 year ago
@Zefrenm No, this makes no sense at all. The Brunswick Light Ray recordings only used the mirror microphone, but otherwise are regular electrical disc recordings. If an optical sound head is focused on too wide a field, you would hear a muffled recording with no high frequencies. The pitch problems are pure wow and flutter from a wavering speed of the film itself. It would be like putting a Brunswick record off-center on the turntable or turning it by hand.
mjb784533 1 year ago
you should check out Froggmoni's youtube page about it ubnder the title (Burswick LIGHT RAY recordings & Deutsche Grammophon 1926
Zefrenm 1 year ago
@Zefrenm I have done a lot of research on all types of recording including this. The video you reference will tell you correctly all about the light-ray microphone which was called the Pallotrope, and Brunswick/Polydor's use has nothing to do with sound-on-film recording. In fact, the WGY films were not made with this microphone, but by connection to a radio receiver. The wavering pitch on the film is from design defects in the playback machine which they are correcting.
mjb784533 1 year ago
(Part 2) There also was an annual award of a gold medal for Good Diction On The Radio sponsored by the American Acadamy of Arts and Letters which was actively promoting the use of radio to teach all Americans how to speak. David Ross won the first award followed by Alwyn Bach, both of whom had fake sweet accents. Info of the convention at FOTR.com and there also will be a talk and demo on the Pallophotophone on Sat morning Oct 23, 2010.
mjb784533 1 year ago
There also was an annual award of a gold medal for Good Diction On The Radio sponsored by the American Acadamy of Arts and Letters which was actively promoting the use of radio to teach all Americans how to speak. David Ross won the first award followed by Alwyn Bach, both of whom had fake sweet accents. Info of the convention at FOTR.com and there also will be a talk and demo on the Pallophotophone on Sat morning Oct 23, 2010.
mjb784533 1 year ago
I wonder if people on radio were taught to speak that way. (the interesting accent they had on that broadcast) Any ideas?
CassetteMaster 1 year ago
@CassetteMaster Funny you should ask. I am going to be doing a presentation on the subject of Announcing Styles of the 1920s next month (October 22, 2010) at the Friends of Old Time Radio. Announcing was still evolving at the time. Some had regional accents, some declaimed like old time stump speakers, but some tried to be syrupy sweet with pseudo-sophistocated accents. CBS emulated sweetness of David Ross & Frank Knight, NBC Blue Milton Cross, and NBC Red Graham McNamee who was bland.
mjb784533 1 year ago
Its funny to see regular computer type speakers hooked up to this machine playing nearly 100 year old recordings.
phrige 1 year ago 2
@phrige 80, but who's counting! Actually he is more of a computer person. He has never done any audio restoration before.
mjb784533 1 year ago
I was also astonished to hear that the voices suffered little from the wow, but there IS instability in the voices if you listen carefully. The announcer on the B.A. Rolfe Lucky Strike Dance Orchestra program -- who might be Westbrook Van Voorhis -- does not fare as well with the wow as these voices did. We do hope the museum will soon get a grant and be able to retransfer and release the recordings.
mjb784533 1 year ago
Despite speed instability, voices are shockingly lifelike. More, please!
zorach13 1 year ago