I really enjoy your tutorials but could you please move the bar to the top or bottom of the screen or make the bar more transparent? Hard to see what you are speaking of with the bar in the way. Thank you for the helpful vids!
@BlindedByEvil Check out 0:21 -- ICs will have a notch or dot as an indicator as to where pin one is. As far as I'm aware, the indication is standard to the particular package.
To me, that flat pack you put on is ok but the overall quality of the joints look un even.Yes its better than some people but I use the drag method,little as possible solder on the tip, plenty of flux and go! I like the whole 4 sides to be even just like it comes out of a machine.Brush up/clean with cleaners not alcohol.
Lead free solder may be good for the environment but is not good for very many heat-cycles in real applications. BTW, that solder job in the video is pretty masterful. I loved the demo!!
I noticed someone else had a problem with sliding text. That is my concern as well. But also the over lap-fade in the recording tends to merge your sentences. thx.
@ExpertCMX12, ha ha: we think you want to get a flux capacitor. Then, view this video again, and learn to be deft with your touch and insight. It's quite a craft, really an art at this level.
Nice work. I've always wondered how people soldered these tiny pins by hand, and I actually imagined that you would solder across an entire row of pins and use a very fine cutter between the pins to make sure they didn't connect :)
I always have problems seen this kind of chips,, there are too small for me to see them. Does anybody knows if there is a special glasses for this that I can use? Thanks in advance.
Yes, Norman is one of the fastest and very best MIT's in the industry.
Please be aware that finished quality is a higher priority than speed. Quality promotes what we call high reliability soldering to the Class 3 acceptability requirement. Norman's techniques also represent "one touch" techniques which subject the components to minimal thermal exposure thereby reducing the chances for latent and or intermetallic
Where do you get your no clean liquid flux, because the liquid flux I have leaves residue that is sometime a pain to get rid of especially if you are working in close quarters with other components?
It is a good video EXCEPT, for that BIG RED BANNER that floats across the screen every five seconds reiterating what you already said. How about moving that banner into the top part of the video screen because on a few parts, it would cover some of the work you were doing. Lot of good info but a lot was wasted.
Thanks for your videos! I have one question though. Is there a cheap way to practice soldering? All the kits I've bought are about $50 with shipping and they only take me about half an hour to put together.
It called dry tacking. This is where you don't use any solder but flux and heat. What is going on is there is some solder left on the pads site after the part has been removed and cleaned. This is enough solder to hold it in place once you apply flux and heat.
The equipment that I am using in the videos is a OK Industries (METCAL). I have used PACE, Edysin, HAKKO, Weller, and JBC. These technics work well with any type of equipment. Just practice. Thanks for the comment.
With the hoof tip I can get more than one lead at a time but also it covers more surface of the lead at one time. With a chisel tip you have to drag it from the heel to the foot but with the hoof you cover the whole foot at once.
Norman (or others) - a question re: this technique. Out of curiosity, why use a Hoof tip vs a Chisel tip - of the width corresponding with the number of pins you're trying to do at once? It seems like the shape would more correspond with what is being done. But I'm likely not understanding something re: the choice. Thanks in advance!
Soldering like that without flux and you would have EVERY pin bridged in one big ball of solder.
Seeing the way the solder flowed with the Soldering Bit, Flux was used. I think he uses Liquid flux, I tend to use Paste flux. Either way, its the flux that allows the solder to flow over the IC legs like that.
Thank you, I learned a lot from all of your presentations. A question for you: do you have any technique or demonstration how to solder 8-lead DFN (2mm x 2mm) package? Is buying hot air the only option for me?
Thanks for your question and I'm glad to hear that our videos are effective.
To answer the question about the DFN directly, Yes, you will need hot air/gas to solder or desolder the component. It's just not possible to get to the thermal plane under the center of the component with an iron. Some DFN packages are designed in such a way that it's not even possible to solder the individual leads since there's no toe surface or termination visible at the side of the component.
What kind of system? That depends on how much capital you have. I generally don't recommend hand-held heat guns for any application. The time and temp profile created by using the heat gun is so variable that it can be very difficult to get consistent results. There are table top systems for less expense which will do the job sufficiently all the way up to monster, automated rework systems. It's up to you to do the math and the homework to determine what's best for your application.
Thank you for the reply. Yesterday I received my first hot air (AOYUE 852++), last week my WD1001 soldering station arrived with the same tips and solder that you recommended in your tutorials.
Now, all I need is another great video tutorial this time on DFN 2mm x 2mm soldering technique :-)
For those of you who watch this demo, this man is a Master IPC Trainer from Business Electronics Soldering Technologies (BEST) in Rolling Meadows, IL. Norman, Kris, Ray and the other Master Instructors from BEST are some of the very finest Master Instructors in the
world. What these guys do with soldering is extraordinary. Excellent job Norman!!! How about some
assorted fine pitch demos with lead free and tin/lead?
Dang, I thought soldering many different leads like that would be a pain in the ass.
does it make a difference if you use Lead based or lead free?
thatguyontheright1 1 month ago
I really enjoy your tutorials but could you please move the bar to the top or bottom of the screen or make the bar more transparent? Hard to see what you are speaking of with the bar in the way. Thank you for the helpful vids!
KryptKeeper40 2 months ago in playlist Electronics
I can't take advice from someone that confuses flux with solder.
Serostern 5 months ago
Which soldering iron, and which inspection camera is being used here? Thanks.
yrofot 6 months ago
Which soldering iron, and which inspection camera is being used here? Thanks.
yrofot 6 months ago
????
allelectronics1 6 months ago
how can u tell which pin number on the IC? and where to place it? also is there many different ways these type of chips are lined up to the PCB?
BlindedByEvil 8 months ago
@BlindedByEvil Check out 0:21 -- ICs will have a notch or dot as an indicator as to where pin one is. As far as I'm aware, the indication is standard to the particular package.
Tekarien 8 months ago
@BlindedByEvil ok thanks
BlindedByEvil 8 months ago
good videos and instruction, thanks!
actionman22 9 months ago
thanks master...
pacojavier81 10 months ago
Or I use the heat gun, (once chip is dry to eleminate white dry flux residue.
I prefer a standard no8 chisel/conical tip bog standard weller to a better job than your vid. ;)
If thermal exposure is a problem or pcb has lots of ground plane,then i use weller heat gun to warm pcb gently before soldering. This helps flow.
Vindezal 10 months ago
To me, that flat pack you put on is ok but the overall quality of the joints look un even.Yes its better than some people but I use the drag method,little as possible solder on the tip, plenty of flux and go! I like the whole 4 sides to be even just like it comes out of a machine.Brush up/clean with cleaners not alcohol.
Vindezal 10 months ago
That's a hot tip. How many watts is the soldering iron?
zzap999 11 months ago
bup bup... nice vid.
darknight0877 1 year ago
Good job! please in your next video don't talk like gay, ok?
estudiosima 1 year ago
whats that water stuff he put on there to souder it?
Icecreamman54542004 1 year ago
@Icecreamman54542004 flux, its a fluid that helps solder to attach to metal
dareheaven2 1 year ago
FUCK LEAD FREE SOLDER its fucked 11 good soldering tips already fucking EU regulations FUCK OFF!
MasterBowyer 1 year ago
Lead free solder may be good for the environment but is not good for very many heat-cycles in real applications. BTW, that solder job in the video is pretty masterful. I loved the demo!!
gamccoy 1 year ago
Very nice results as opposed to drag-style.
This looks easier for beginners, but some of the drag-soldering
videos produce same results in much less time.
I will be getting a new station soon, so I can try both methods :-)
Thanks for posting this, cheers.
a3dfxnut 1 year ago
What is the tip temperature you are using?
TheWakkoWarner 1 year ago
I noticed someone else had a problem with sliding text. That is my concern as well. But also the over lap-fade in the recording tends to merge your sentences. thx.
eddiequest4 1 year ago
Poor editing but great video!
martinkjlarsson 1 year ago
SOUL-DAR
FarCriedOff 1 year ago
bad video...
Robosos 1 year ago
cool..
100roberthenry 1 year ago
is there anyplace to get this type of work done?
Billy18bm 1 year ago
BEST, Inc
SolderingGeek 1 year ago
Do you think the method shown in the video can be applied to solder a SMT IC with 176-pin (0.5mm pitch)? Thanks.
onemmatuk 1 year ago
i dont know how to use flux can some one please help me!
ExpertCMX12 1 year ago
@ExpertCMX12, ha ha: we think you want to get a flux capacitor. Then, view this video again, and learn to be deft with your touch and insight. It's quite a craft, really an art at this level.
ampdavolts 1 year ago
Excelent ...Thanks you
jancallej 1 year ago
HHIILLFillit!
tt2ent 1 year ago
Boom, clean the tip lol
KernelThread 1 year ago 4
Nice work. I've always wondered how people soldered these tiny pins by hand, and I actually imagined that you would solder across an entire row of pins and use a very fine cutter between the pins to make sure they didn't connect :)
RJLeffmann 1 year ago
Great tutorial, the red scrolling text was making the video very annoying to watch
zincdustdust 1 year ago 2
Very good, clean job.
gnostie 1 year ago
what flux are you using?
rellik331 1 year ago
Good tutorial, but that red sliding text won't let me see it all...
AhmedHan 1 year ago 13
Sorry, future tutorials will not have that on them. Thanks for the comment.
SolderingGeek 1 year ago 8
nice work tanq
johnny007johnnywilso 1 year ago
I always have problems seen this kind of chips,, there are too small for me to see them. Does anybody knows if there is a special glasses for this that I can use? Thanks in advance.
VannyARTS 1 year ago
Magnifying ring lamp
SolderingGeek 1 year ago
@SolderingGeek YOU SUCK BECAUSE GOD HATES AMERICANS.
UberLifeTroll 7 months ago
@VannyARTS
I insist in using a microscope.
scatcatpdx 1 year ago
@VannyARTS I use high power reading glasses. Can't afford much else.
eddiequest4 1 year ago
Who ever edited this video did a horrible job. Not helpful at all.
zadtrax 2 years ago 2
3:28 rofl
sectoras 2 years ago
@sectoras
rofl indeed
cochise82 2 years ago
Excellent!
inothome 2 years ago
Amazing done with such ease i hope i can pull this off : )
hobbles4u 2 years ago
WOW!
cumesoftware 2 years ago
thank you for the great video
senthu80 2 years ago
Hi SolderingGeek, excellent work.. Now Im very curios about how to desolder the chip?? :D
DerCheckah 2 years ago 3
good....
femtophysiker 2 years ago
interesante tecnica.seria bueno traducirlo al español.
esausamuel 2 years ago
OUTSTANDING video... I have a soldering test for a job tomorrow and I haven't done much surface mount stuff... big help, thanks!
bkmalone86 2 years ago
I love you Norm you are the best !
sonnypoo 2 years ago
I'm in a trance watching this, boom...down and out, great soldering, wish I could do it, how many chips destroyed to get to this level
donnyab 2 years ago
It looks like your large hoof is a Metcal. Are you using a 700 F tip for the SAC alloy?
Can a person achieve a metallurgical bond using a 600 F tip as to subject the QFP to less heat? Please reply.
jkgamm041 2 years ago
Actually I am using a METCAL SMTC 0147 tip. So yes to your question.
SolderingGeek 2 years ago
Did he said hill fillets?
Is he the fastest master solder out there?
icloo 2 years ago
Yes, Norman is one of the fastest and very best MIT's in the industry.
Please be aware that finished quality is a higher priority than speed. Quality promotes what we call high reliability soldering to the Class 3 acceptability requirement. Norman's techniques also represent "one touch" techniques which subject the components to minimal thermal exposure thereby reducing the chances for latent and or intermetallic
failure. His technique is the easiest to use
and for consistent results.
jkgamm041 2 years ago
I MEAN WHRE I CAN GET THIS LIQUID?
rkstyle1 2 years ago
WHAT IS clean liquid flux REPLY ME MUST!
rkstyle1 2 years ago
I don't understand the question.
SolderingGeek 2 years ago
allah razı olsun... güzel çaşlışma...
emeği geçenlere selam
Greetings to the labor
haciconda 3 years ago
Where do you get your no clean liquid flux, because the liquid flux I have leaves residue that is sometime a pain to get rid of especially if you are working in close quarters with other components?
Penfold8 3 years ago
It is Alpha Rosin 800
SolderingGeek 3 years ago
Thank you sir!
Penfold8 3 years ago
Yea i had the same problom it was leaving sticky dirty grime on my part.
skatepunk2242 3 years ago
It is a good video EXCEPT, for that BIG RED BANNER that floats across the screen every five seconds reiterating what you already said. How about moving that banner into the top part of the video screen because on a few parts, it would cover some of the work you were doing. Lot of good info but a lot was wasted.
RoC1909 3 years ago
Sorry, thanks for the tip and for the future videos we will try and prevent that.
SolderingGeek 3 years ago
Man, you are the best that i,ve seen ever!
zuca25 3 years ago
Thanks, lots of practice.
SolderingGeek 3 years ago
Its just wonderful!
zuca25 3 years ago
Thanks for your comment.
SolderingGeek 3 years ago
Where do you get such small solder? Is that .010?
skatepunk2242 3 years ago
Several solder distributors handle that size but it is expensive.
SolderingGeek 3 years ago
Is the process the same with lead based solder?
skatepunk2242 3 years ago
very good , i use the same tecnique but i dind't solder many of them and my final quality is not that good like yours
thiagoulhoamorais 3 years ago
Thanks for your videos! I have one question though. Is there a cheap way to practice soldering? All the kits I've bought are about $50 with shipping and they only take me about half an hour to put together.
mreck0 3 years ago
very good sir.... hope to solder as well as you someday.....very useful tips thanks
saltyCracka3 3 years ago
looks like very good work, but much practice is required, isn't it?
Kosekans 3 years ago
Yes, and patients is next.
SolderingGeek 3 years ago
BOOM!
Thanks for the hot tips, can't wait to try them out.
AntiStalinist 3 years ago
this is awesome thanks! 5/5 stars,
xxbox619 3 years ago
very informative video, I really enjoy your style of instruction, and your camera work is solid, thanks!
jesserai 3 years ago
thanks for your comment
SolderingGeek 3 years ago
Awesome!
nowthatsit 3 years ago
how did you "tack" the corners? that is a new concept to me, mostly because i didnt see any solder involved.
dudebot09 3 years ago
It called dry tacking. This is where you don't use any solder but flux and heat. What is going on is there is some solder left on the pads site after the part has been removed and cleaned. This is enough solder to hold it in place once you apply flux and heat.
SolderingGeek 3 years ago
Hi Norman. What soldering equipment are you using with that hoof tip? Also, what other soldering stations do you use on a regular basis, if any?
Thanks and great videos!
derektm 3 years ago
The equipment that I am using in the videos is a OK Industries (METCAL). I have used PACE, Edysin, HAKKO, Weller, and JBC. These technics work well with any type of equipment. Just practice. Thanks for the comment.
SolderingGeek 3 years ago
With the hoof tip I can get more than one lead at a time but also it covers more surface of the lead at one time. With a chisel tip you have to drag it from the heel to the foot but with the hoof you cover the whole foot at once.
SolderingGeek 3 years ago
Norman (or others) - a question re: this technique. Out of curiosity, why use a Hoof tip vs a Chisel tip - of the width corresponding with the number of pins you're trying to do at once? It seems like the shape would more correspond with what is being done. But I'm likely not understanding something re: the choice. Thanks in advance!
protonus 3 years ago
So, do you just leave the flux on the circuit board or do you clean it up? Does it just dry into the circuit board? What do you clean it up with?
BooperGrandson 3 years ago
I use ISP Alcohol to remove the flux residue. If left on the board it might cause issues.
SolderingGeek 3 years ago
Fine video presentation. If solder truly sticks to the copper like that without bridging, then I should have no problem soldering.
TKGB2006 3 years ago
Hey! How did I end up getting a negative rating?
TKGB2006 3 years ago
The key here, is FLUX !
Soldering like that without flux and you would have EVERY pin bridged in one big ball of solder.
Seeing the way the solder flowed with the Soldering Bit, Flux was used. I think he uses Liquid flux, I tend to use Paste flux. Either way, its the flux that allows the solder to flow over the IC legs like that.
whiteb89 3 years ago
Down and out is a terrible technique, I can do the same job in 1/5 of your time. better and faster.
anlactrieu 3 years ago
Please define your technique.
SolderingGeek 3 years ago
Thank you, I learned a lot from all of your presentations. A question for you: do you have any technique or demonstration how to solder 8-lead DFN (2mm x 2mm) package? Is buying hot air the only option for me?
Thank you,
robotTV 3 years ago
Thanks for your question and I'm glad to hear that our videos are effective.
To answer the question about the DFN directly, Yes, you will need hot air/gas to solder or desolder the component. It's just not possible to get to the thermal plane under the center of the component with an iron. Some DFN packages are designed in such a way that it's not even possible to solder the individual leads since there's no toe surface or termination visible at the side of the component.
SolderingGeek 3 years ago
What kind of system? That depends on how much capital you have. I generally don't recommend hand-held heat guns for any application. The time and temp profile created by using the heat gun is so variable that it can be very difficult to get consistent results. There are table top systems for less expense which will do the job sufficiently all the way up to monster, automated rework systems. It's up to you to do the math and the homework to determine what's best for your application.
SolderingGeek 3 years ago
Thank you for the reply. Yesterday I received my first hot air (AOYUE 852++), last week my WD1001 soldering station arrived with the same tips and solder that you recommended in your tutorials.
Now, all I need is another great video tutorial this time on DFN 2mm x 2mm soldering technique :-)
Thank you once again.
robotTV 3 years ago
Thanks so much for making and posting this vid on Youtube. It was very informative!
Nostert 3 years ago
Wow, that's like magic lol. Always wondered how those little legs got soldered in place.
KIFulgore 4 years ago
Amazing!! For sure I am going to use this techinique since now on.
jarochelas 4 years ago
Excellent
bennymer2 4 years ago
For those of you who watch this demo, this man is a Master IPC Trainer from Business Electronics Soldering Technologies (BEST) in Rolling Meadows, IL. Norman, Kris, Ray and the other Master Instructors from BEST are some of the very finest Master Instructors in the
world. What these guys do with soldering is extraordinary. Excellent job Norman!!! How about some
assorted fine pitch demos with lead free and tin/lead?
John Gammell, CIT
jkgamm041 4 years ago
John
Thanks for the comment we try our BEST here at BEST to meet or exceed our customers expectations in our video tips as well as our training programs.
SolderingGeek 4 years ago