Sorry to be cynic, but, what is in it for her? Its not in her interest, it won't get her money, it will probably make her some more enemies. Tough sell.
This is a difficult proposition. Both sides make good points. There is one thing I believe however, that your pleas will not be answered because the current Governor would never have been elected with an closed primary.
1. Voting in a primary is not a right. If you don't want to be a Democrat or Rpublican, why not go with a third party, or start your own? 3. Open primaries can and have led to very un-democratic tampering (think Rush Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos"). In conclusion, if you are a third party voter, or unaffiliated, you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. Either make your party viable by selecting good candidates and building an organization, or suck it up and join a major party.
brilliant video, brilliant conclusions. keep pushing with this. i think we should also explore alternate voting systems, used in other cultures. for example, ranking the candidates from first to last (instead of choosing your favorite), which would eliminate the whole "throwing your vote away" nonsense. we don't need two big candidates to choose from, we need to see them all, understand them all, and rate them all.
Hi Jamie. Its nice to hear a thoughtful voice on politics. But, im this case I do not agree with your conclusion. While I understand your concerns, it occurs to me that the purpose of the primary is for the party to elect its nominee. To that extent, I think the party's nominee should be representative of that respective party.
As an example, here in Illinois, if Obama is the preference of the democrats, I dont see a benefit if GOPers and Inds flood the ballot box with votes for Hillary.
Or vice versa with the GOPer candidate. I appreciate your thoughtfullness in this issue. Howver, if someone is Ind, or in a 3rd party, it is not that they are not allowed to vote. But simply that by deciding to join the 3rd party--or no party at all--the have excluded themselves from the other (two) main parties.
What if (hypothetical) a majority of libertarians want john doe to be their candidate, why should people who would never vote for a LP candidate get to deny then that?
As bass pointed out, it is a way for him or her to vote against someone (hypothetically) twice.
But voting for or against a presidential candidate is what the presidential elections are for. While I understand primaries play a big role in picking a president, in reality, there is only ONE vote for president--2nd tues in November.
As always, you come off very thoughtful, and well spoken. Im glad to subscribe. ttys.
It goes back to the beginning of this country. There were only demo and repub, so if you are not in any of these two then you got to shut up and go along with whatever these two are deciding.
For a long time in American history there were three parties. Eventually the Whig party kind of died out and it's members joined the other two parties.
Like you said it end4ed up with only two parties since the Whig died out.Now can't you see.
Anyway...forget about politics and let's talk about your love life. I definitely want to hear it after all I just can't help watching your videos. You look soooo sexy.Only wished I could have a bite.
i hear ya - i am an independent and am forced to wait for tweedle dumb vs. tweedle dick every 2 - 4 years. the only way things can really change is if a majority of people rip up their party membership and go independent and force people to run as independents and that way there are more people running for office and more ideas spread amoungst the people.
Whats the crap with a closed primary this is B.S. They just want to steal peoples votes. Make sure you register in the party you want to vote in. GOOGLE RON PAUL see what he is about VOTE and make sure you can vote that person
unfortunately things are going the opposite way - Primaries in Michigan were just closed (among several other states to make the switch). Since 38% of Americans don't associate with the democratic or republican party - this puts pressure on these independents to "chose a side" and partake in strengthening the 2 party democratic dictatorship we live in.
The more they get people to take sides, the more people think of a 3rd party candidate as a wasted vote. Since media conglomerates pick who front runners are by popularizing them - the people are left with choosing from a pool of candidates dictated by the media - an old trick used by salesmen really.
3rd parties are a waste of time because of the system, not because anyone is really trying to kill them off. Our representative democracy is set up to inevitably result in a 2-party system. That would require a parliamentary system. See Canada or UK, or almost any other democracy.
I say just pick a side so you can vote in the primary. The parties have a right to pick their own candidate.
way to go Jamie. I support your position. Perhaps you'd fare better with the Governor if you controlled (influenced) a certain block of voters. Let's say.... you personally organized a voter registration drive that added..oh .. 10k or more voters.
You would be considered as having influence over approx 10k votes. THAT wil get any politicians attention.
You've been quite about Newt Grinch... what's up with that?
That's a great idea except that 10k people is about 25% of the population of the town I live in. I'm kind of in the middle of nowhere in a highly republican area that doesn't really care of independent voters (plus the republican party in general tends to be scared on open primaries that have a better chance at helping the democrats...as they see it anyways, though I highly disagree that that is the case).
Oh, and after more research I've found that Arizona did vote for an open primary law in 1998, but the law was deemed unconstitutional by the AZ Supreme Court. Unfortunately I can't find much information on what was illegal about it. Plenty of other states have open primaries. It must be something weird about AZ's constitution. But, I'm starting to think it may not be as easy as it seems.
If you're going to organize 10K people, you may as well start a petition for a Voter Initiative to go on the ballot. For help, turn to labor unions & League of Women Voters.
I can remember registering as a Republican just in case my state had a primary - I wanted to vote AGAINST "X" as early as possible. MT must be an Open Pri state: at poll, you got to choose a Rep or Dem ballot, no matter how you registered.
It did win once on the ballot but the AZ Supreme Court deemed it unconstitutional. Since that was pre-me living in AZ, I didn't know that until after some more research and after I made the video. You are sooo lucky. I wish I could just register as a libertarian and still vote in the primaries.
I'd just ask her to jump off a cliff
boosomentity 1 year ago
Sorry to be cynic, but, what is in it for her? Its not in her interest, it won't get her money, it will probably make her some more enemies. Tough sell.
GodWhamIt 2 years ago
the way things are going now, radical marxists will soon be considered "moderates"
moderates stink
kosimpson 2 years ago
This is a difficult proposition. Both sides make good points. There is one thing I believe however, that your pleas will not be answered because the current Governor would never have been elected with an closed primary.
Cindi3847 3 years ago
1. Voting in a primary is not a right. If you don't want to be a Democrat or Rpublican, why not go with a third party, or start your own? 3. Open primaries can and have led to very un-democratic tampering (think Rush Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos"). In conclusion, if you are a third party voter, or unaffiliated, you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. Either make your party viable by selecting good candidates and building an organization, or suck it up and join a major party.
evanebrown 3 years ago
Forgive the typos.
evanebrown 3 years ago
brilliant video, brilliant conclusions. keep pushing with this. i think we should also explore alternate voting systems, used in other cultures. for example, ranking the candidates from first to last (instead of choosing your favorite), which would eliminate the whole "throwing your vote away" nonsense. we don't need two big candidates to choose from, we need to see them all, understand them all, and rate them all.
chronicremorse 4 years ago
Hi Jamie. Its nice to hear a thoughtful voice on politics. But, im this case I do not agree with your conclusion. While I understand your concerns, it occurs to me that the purpose of the primary is for the party to elect its nominee. To that extent, I think the party's nominee should be representative of that respective party.
As an example, here in Illinois, if Obama is the preference of the democrats, I dont see a benefit if GOPers and Inds flood the ballot box with votes for Hillary.
EdgemanLL2 4 years ago
Or vice versa with the GOPer candidate. I appreciate your thoughtfullness in this issue. Howver, if someone is Ind, or in a 3rd party, it is not that they are not allowed to vote. But simply that by deciding to join the 3rd party--or no party at all--the have excluded themselves from the other (two) main parties.
What if (hypothetical) a majority of libertarians want john doe to be their candidate, why should people who would never vote for a LP candidate get to deny then that?
EdgemanLL2 4 years ago
As bass pointed out, it is a way for him or her to vote against someone (hypothetically) twice.
But voting for or against a presidential candidate is what the presidential elections are for. While I understand primaries play a big role in picking a president, in reality, there is only ONE vote for president--2nd tues in November.
As always, you come off very thoughtful, and well spoken. Im glad to subscribe. ttys.
EdgemanLL2 4 years ago
It goes back to the beginning of this country. There were only demo and repub, so if you are not in any of these two then you got to shut up and go along with whatever these two are deciding.
FOTOFOTA 4 years ago
For a long time in American history there were three parties. Eventually the Whig party kind of died out and it's members joined the other two parties.
Razela 4 years ago
Like you said it end4ed up with only two parties since the Whig died out.Now can't you see.
Anyway...forget about politics and let's talk about your love life. I definitely want to hear it after all I just can't help watching your videos. You look soooo sexy.Only wished I could have a bite.
FOTOFOTA 4 years ago
who was the thrid party other then whig or demo-reps.
nathannis 4 years ago
i hear ya - i am an independent and am forced to wait for tweedle dumb vs. tweedle dick every 2 - 4 years. the only way things can really change is if a majority of people rip up their party membership and go independent and force people to run as independents and that way there are more people running for office and more ideas spread amoungst the people.
stephendedlus 4 years ago
Why should someone who isn't a Democrat get to decide who the Democratic Party nominates? Why is that fair?
jewy 4 years ago
Can I ask you a question
is she the sister of Judge Andrew Napolitano?
or is it just a name similarity?
VoteYourConsience 4 years ago
Whats the crap with a closed primary this is B.S. They just want to steal peoples votes. Make sure you register in the party you want to vote in. GOOGLE RON PAUL see what he is about VOTE and make sure you can vote that person
bigjon1359 4 years ago
unfortunately things are going the opposite way - Primaries in Michigan were just closed (among several other states to make the switch). Since 38% of Americans don't associate with the democratic or republican party - this puts pressure on these independents to "chose a side" and partake in strengthening the 2 party democratic dictatorship we live in.
driubi 4 years ago
The more they get people to take sides, the more people think of a 3rd party candidate as a wasted vote. Since media conglomerates pick who front runners are by popularizing them - the people are left with choosing from a pool of candidates dictated by the media - an old trick used by salesmen really.
driubi 4 years ago
Exactly!!
Razela 4 years ago
3rd parties are a waste of time because of the system, not because anyone is really trying to kill them off. Our representative democracy is set up to inevitably result in a 2-party system. That would require a parliamentary system. See Canada or UK, or almost any other democracy.
I say just pick a side so you can vote in the primary. The parties have a right to pick their own candidate.
schmoab 4 years ago
Register REP. Vote Ron Paul
bubbazametti 4 years ago
way to go Jamie. I support your position. Perhaps you'd fare better with the Governor if you controlled (influenced) a certain block of voters. Let's say.... you personally organized a voter registration drive that added..oh .. 10k or more voters.
You would be considered as having influence over approx 10k votes. THAT wil get any politicians attention.
You've been quite about Newt Grinch... what's up with that?
vidmakr 4 years ago
That's a great idea except that 10k people is about 25% of the population of the town I live in. I'm kind of in the middle of nowhere in a highly republican area that doesn't really care of independent voters (plus the republican party in general tends to be scared on open primaries that have a better chance at helping the democrats...as they see it anyways, though I highly disagree that that is the case).
Razela 4 years ago
Oh, and after more research I've found that Arizona did vote for an open primary law in 1998, but the law was deemed unconstitutional by the AZ Supreme Court. Unfortunately I can't find much information on what was illegal about it. Plenty of other states have open primaries. It must be something weird about AZ's constitution. But, I'm starting to think it may not be as easy as it seems.
Razela 4 years ago
If you're going to organize 10K people, you may as well start a petition for a Voter Initiative to go on the ballot. For help, turn to labor unions & League of Women Voters.
I can remember registering as a Republican just in case my state had a primary - I wanted to vote AGAINST "X" as early as possible. MT must be an Open Pri state: at poll, you got to choose a Rep or Dem ballot, no matter how you registered.
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~R
Basso9x13 4 years ago
It did win once on the ballot but the AZ Supreme Court deemed it unconstitutional. Since that was pre-me living in AZ, I didn't know that until after some more research and after I made the video. You are sooo lucky. I wish I could just register as a libertarian and still vote in the primaries.
Razela 4 years ago
But that would allow people with real opinions into the process. That's not how America works these days.
thebigt82 4 years ago
Great Idea, Keep it Up.
czarwright 4 years ago