BGH - Insulated Concrete Forms Construction

[TheCowgirlFromHell]

Smells like bullshit

[MrSchpankme]

It makes no-sense putting foam insulation on the inside of a thermal mass structure; what am I missing? In this day and age there is no reason for heating or cooling a home; and no reason to require electric lighting during the daylight hours.

[Soldier957]

Wow, styrofoam AND concrete? This house couldn't be more non-green.

[frankg0912]

@Soldier957 ...concrete is VERY green. It is made by recycling tires and using local material. As for the foam, it is closed cell extruded polystyrene......very low cfc's and ICF walls reduce energy consumption by well over 60%.....very energy efficient. Payback is 5 to 7 years....worth every penny!

[Soldier957]

@frankg0912 Assuming your numbers are correct, concrete is one of the most energy demanding materials that can be sourced. Huge amounts of energy go into the manufacturing. Poly- anything are plastics, many of which leech toxins into the environment (incl human bodies) and obviously never ever break down. So as you may have a very energy- efficient home with these materials, the materials themselves will be damaging both during mining and after their useful lives. That's what I mean by non-green

[Soldier957]

@frankg0912 Also, the best material I've personally come across is hemp/ lime. Carbon negative if sourced locally and biodegradable when the time comes to demolish. Non- toxic, "breathable", pest- repelling, high insulating value etc etc.

[Balenza345]

A stick built house?

lol

[masonmonster1]

how do you put in outlets

[TheThingyguy]

hi

[TheThingyguy]

hi louis lol

[TheThingyguy]

hi louis

[Bruniinhuroots]

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[Bruniinhuroots]

@Bruniinhuroots Maais é esse mesmo que é o piior viideos

[yanikivanov]

foam is daggerouse...its easely catching fire.. also its not natural - its plastic.

[Angerofthenorth]

@yanikivanov Timber catches fire too... When all's said and done, if your house can burn down whatever it's made of - even in a masonry building the floors are often made of wood and your carpets and furniture etc will burn easily. The main trick is to design the home to ensure you can get out easily if there is a fire.

Having said all of that, if you'd prefer a masonry building, I'm told that Thermoplan Ziegel blocks are brilliant. There's videos of them on here.

[lordmat666]

how do these house fair in a climate like Canada? hot summer cold winters.

[Angerofthenorth]

@lordmat666 As far as I'm aware, you can get different thicknesses of polystyrene/foam, so that you can have more insulated homes. In which case, this build system would be as good in Canada as anywhere else.

[Spdkllr07]

Is it strong enough to build using these materials in the hurricane areas? how much will it cost per sq foot? will the insurance company give discount if used these materials?

[walkandlookup]

@Spdkllr07 Believe me! it is very strong quake proof, and extremely energy efitient, and less building material. I live in tropical area and we have to deal with the heat (houses turn like ovens under the sun) but with this technique ( no heat fransfer) they get very conftable and if needed a very small capacity A/C will be plenty

[Spdkllr07]

@walkandlookup : thanks for the info, but will the insurance company give discount if I use this material? and most of all, is it costly..I mean more than regular materials?

[walkandlookup]

@Spdkllr07 The cost is about 5% to 10% higher, but you benefit from energy savings, in return, in less than a year.

[icftexas]

you don't stickon this drywall as in early years of ICF. You have furring strips every eight inches. ALL drywalls that have used this system like it because it reduces waste.

[xXsnitchyXx]

being a drywall installer for over 25 yrs i refuse to work on homes built with this rubbish

,stickon drywall is never a good idea long term ,movement over the yrs will cause cracks to form on your internal walls and joints

[TheRooster602]

@xXsnitchyXx , this isn't stick on drywall - there are plastic studs in the walls, they screw the sheetrock into them.

[xXsnitchyXx]

@TheRooster602 ah yes i see this , must have missed that part about the PLASTIC STUDS ,, i think ill stay with a tested system , with over 50 yrs in the game

lets see ill come back in 50 yrs to see how your doing

not i wouldnt think

[Berialavrenti]

what if instead of plastic joints, the joints were made of high grade steel which could be welded together?

i agree this idea is not complete yet but the foam already on the pieces is a great idea to build (foot by foot) an energy cost effective house.

[luvmyctd]

@Berialavrenti So you want to weld steel encased in styrofoam? Hmmm, really? Why? This system has been around for many many years ... decades ... is well proven & been refined many times over by numerous manufacturers. Plastic is best ... metal inferior for many reasons. Hard to beat this system for ease of install & efficiency ... I don't like the foot thick walls at windows & doors as it gives the tunnel effect, especially with smaller windows but it is a fantastic system for foundations.

[Berialavrenti]

@luvmyctd

no no no, thats not what i want to do!

you still have to use concrete!

[luvmyctd]

@Berialavrenti Yes of course they would still be filled with concrete but the webbing is encased in foam right? ... the forms. You know what I mean.

[Berialavrenti]

@luvmyctd

i think we have different endgoals in our mind; I agree this is a good way of building a house, but in a non-earthquake risk area and no higher than 2 floors.

The foam is also great for insulation.

I came to this video looking for earthquake resistant building methods with an

added temperature advantage.

[walkandlookup]

@xXsnitchyXx I have build with this material and I cant complain, you use less manpower and the building is fast, comparing with 'classic' materials, an is still concrete (strong)

[gpy2k20]

this stuff is garbage. block is so much better. with proper insulation you can achieve the same r- factor.

[icfuser]

with a bit of research you would discover that and ICF wall performs like an R-40 to R-50 wall. I'm not sure where you get your insulation, but chances are it won't give you that kind of R-value. Plus, block is not better for building above grade. ICF's are much better suited for above grade applications

[rachel19977]

How much are these Insulated Concrete Forms?

[ice4409]

sorry i ment S. foot

[ice4409]

how much is it to rent out the forms per q. foot?

please let me know as soon as you can thank you

[QwikKota]

Um, dude, the foam forms are the "Insulated" part of the ICF construction. They are a permanent part of the wall structure. Hence the lower heating/cooling costs. You have to purchase them.

[n8v21]

you cant rent ICF forms you have to buy them cause once you use them there on your walls for life

[sketchratner]

I've been considering looking into wanting to build a house project using this when I first saw these things being used to make a foundation on a job site.... Since my project is going to be big, I was thinking using wood would run me alot of money.. Instead I would probably like to use this instead.. Though is it much cheaper, or more expensive to build a home out of this as opposed to using wood.

[200655736]

I believe that the icf is more expensive, but will save you more money later on heating bills

[mdmf007]

You will save oney on labor as well, no stripping, and set up is quick as well.

Follow the instructions or you will blow forms out.