@97warlock When a neck is glued in place (as in a Les Paul for example) the fitting is much more complex and uses a joint. The parts are clamped whilst the glue sets to minimise the gap and ensure a good bond. The reason bolted necks are not usually glued is that you would not be able to remove the neck at a future date, which is one of the main advantages of bolting instead of glueing. I have never tried what you suggest, but if the glue is of the right type and sets rock hard it might work.
@97warlock When a neck is glued in place (as in a Les Paul for example) the fitting is much more complex and uses a joint. The parts are clamped whilst the glue sets to minimise the gap and ensure a good bond. The reason bolted necks are not usually glued is that you would not be able to remove the neck at a future date, which is one of the main advantages of bolting instead of glueing. I have never tried what you suggest, but if the glue is of the right type and sets rock hard it might work.
I see......ty , Im consideing taking a thin thin side shaving of wood & sliding it down between the neck & neck pocket after the screws are in but not drawn down completely,just to somewhat fill the gap,even though the gap is barely enough to get a credit card into maybe,if that even.
@97warlock If you need to create a shim to fill the gap fill it with something very dense, like metal. You can add wood, of course, but the grain is gone, and unless it is very tight you won't get the same effect as a continuous piece of wood.
Ive read a lot of talking about Tight fits on guitar necks and how they fit in the pocket.. What about if you can slide a thin guitar pick inbetween the neck & pocket? Does that mean the 4 screws wont be strong enough to hold the neck?
@97warlock The four screws will hold the neck just fine. The extra tight fit is simply to enhance the sustain, so that the vibration path is transmitted more efficiently. If you have a gap of any sort then the sustain is relying on the screws, and that will probably lead to reduced sustain and unwanted overtones. The more metal your design has along the vibration path, the brighter and more sustained the sound will be, so the screws add to that, but a tight fit is required too for best sound.
@LFWOL Good point, but I think it's important NOT to put finish in the neck pocket. The transmission of the vibrations from the strings through the neck is more efficient when wood touches wood rather than having to go through a layer of finish. That neck fit was exactly what we needed. The guitar was finished with Dutch oil.
you guys are great...got me thinking of my dead father who loved the timber.Have just joined two pieces of his switenia mahogany for a body.The old man always approved of ANY kind of temPLATE...you have made my day .
how did you place the neck pocket on the centre line. i am diong a similar build with a premade neck and im not quite sure how to centre my new neck pocket up
Cool project, I've always dreamed of playing a guitar that I built. Do a search for "Jimmy Foster Archtop" in youtube for some ideas, he makes some really nice guitars.
The skill in your father's hands, the intelligence they've developed over decades, was so evident in the way he handled his tools. It's awesome to see expertise like that. Such confidence! That was wonderful. Thanks. MORE PLEASE!!
Wow! This is so fascinating! That is so awesome that your dad has this talent! Will we see more as he makes progress with the guitar? I hope so because this is really cool.
What about adding a thin layer of "glue" to the neck pocket BEFORE drawing down the screws?? anyone try this?
97warlock 1 year ago
@97warlock When a neck is glued in place (as in a Les Paul for example) the fitting is much more complex and uses a joint. The parts are clamped whilst the glue sets to minimise the gap and ensure a good bond. The reason bolted necks are not usually glued is that you would not be able to remove the neck at a future date, which is one of the main advantages of bolting instead of glueing. I have never tried what you suggest, but if the glue is of the right type and sets rock hard it might work.
periurban 1 year ago
@97warlock When a neck is glued in place (as in a Les Paul for example) the fitting is much more complex and uses a joint. The parts are clamped whilst the glue sets to minimise the gap and ensure a good bond. The reason bolted necks are not usually glued is that you would not be able to remove the neck at a future date, which is one of the main advantages of bolting instead of glueing. I have never tried what you suggest, but if the glue is of the right type and sets rock hard it might work.
periurban 1 year ago
I see......ty , Im consideing taking a thin thin side shaving of wood & sliding it down between the neck & neck pocket after the screws are in but not drawn down completely,just to somewhat fill the gap,even though the gap is barely enough to get a credit card into maybe,if that even.
97warlock 1 year ago
@97warlock If you need to create a shim to fill the gap fill it with something very dense, like metal. You can add wood, of course, but the grain is gone, and unless it is very tight you won't get the same effect as a continuous piece of wood.
periurban 1 year ago
Ive read a lot of talking about Tight fits on guitar necks and how they fit in the pocket.. What about if you can slide a thin guitar pick inbetween the neck & pocket? Does that mean the 4 screws wont be strong enough to hold the neck?
97warlock 1 year ago
@97warlock The four screws will hold the neck just fine. The extra tight fit is simply to enhance the sustain, so that the vibration path is transmitted more efficiently. If you have a gap of any sort then the sustain is relying on the screws, and that will probably lead to reduced sustain and unwanted overtones. The more metal your design has along the vibration path, the brighter and more sustained the sound will be, so the screws add to that, but a tight fit is required too for best sound.
periurban 1 year ago
so what is the guitar neck pocket? Is it the part on the body that the neck slips into?
flashycat92 1 year ago
@flashycat92 Yeah, it's quite crucial to the whole energy signature of the guitar that the fit is good, and to the intonation and string height etc.
periurban 1 year ago
@LFWOL Good point, but I think it's important NOT to put finish in the neck pocket. The transmission of the vibrations from the strings through the neck is more efficient when wood touches wood rather than having to go through a layer of finish. That neck fit was exactly what we needed. The guitar was finished with Dutch oil.
periurban 1 year ago
@periurban im making a guitar myself, and it has a glue in neck. should i attach the neck before i finish? or do the neck and body separately? thanks
justjoe032 1 year ago
@justjoe032 If both the body and neck are unfinished before assembly I'd glue then finish. Good luck!
periurban 1 year ago
what are the dimensions of the neck plate?
kikiriki94 1 year ago
@kikiriki94 50mm x 65mm
periurban 1 year ago
you guys are great...got me thinking of my dead father who loved the timber.Have just joined two pieces of his switenia mahogany for a body.The old man always approved of ANY kind of temPLATE...you have made my day .
peakhouse 2 years ago
You are welcome.
periurban 2 years ago
This reminded me of some kind of comedy show, very nice work haha
KreatorOfDeath1985 2 years ago
awesome i like your dad he reiminds me of my dad
DaveDaysJr 2 years ago
the way a true workshop should look! i love it!
fushYEAmangs 2 years ago
wow , that band saw sounds like its powered by a bunch of rabbits on a pully belt LOL
phallystorm 2 years ago
Could be. Them rabbits got lotsa energy.
periurban 2 years ago
i like the wrokshop, so much tools for guitar building.
JimmyPage968 2 years ago
how did you place the neck pocket on the centre line. i am diong a similar build with a premade neck and im not quite sure how to centre my new neck pocket up
help would be greatly appreciated
fatu6613 2 years ago
thats what i like about CNC routers.. no templates neccessary and i can design the bodies and necks in 3D
megadeth22885 3 years ago
i wish i have dad like your xD so i dont need to buy any guitar hehehehehe,,,,,,,,
mannerohardy 3 years ago
Rock on you two. Great to see.
;-)
Klippstar1 3 years ago
how good to see a craftsman at work. Most of us would be happy with the first neck pocket..... But not this guy! I wish I had his patience!!
akc5150 3 years ago
If the neck pocket is that tight WITHOUT finish you are gonna have a problem once you come to final assembly.
AlexSlams 3 years ago
Good point, but the guitar went together fine. I put no finish in the pocket.
periurban 3 years ago
Glad it worked out for you - was the neck pre-finished? That might have been the saving grace for you.
I miss building guitars, neck shaving was the most rewarding (but knackering) job for me!
AlexSlams 3 years ago
Yes, the neck was already finished. A bargain at 50 GBP from ebay. A beautiful neck too.
periurban 3 years ago
Excellent work.
Thanks for posting it.
freakyoffspring 3 years ago
That's the way I used to make my templates;
smooth 'em down with wood file/rasp.
Now I made a cnc, and trying to get used to it and all the software. Headache when you're 50.
randallcaster 4 years ago
I'm 48. Everything is a headache. My dad is 71 and runs rings around me!
periurban 4 years ago
Close to the saw......Thats a scroll saw, very predictible and near impossible to cut yourself on, unless your an idiot!
IVsakeN 4 years ago
That's why I don't use one!
periurban 4 years ago
how did you know?
benatbenland 4 years ago
Cool project, I've always dreamed of playing a guitar that I built. Do a search for "Jimmy Foster Archtop" in youtube for some ideas, he makes some really nice guitars.
nikanj 5 years ago
His finger was awful close to that saw
whydtheytakemyname 5 years ago
He is an expert!
periurban 5 years ago
The skill in your father's hands, the intelligence they've developed over decades, was so evident in the way he handled his tools. It's awesome to see expertise like that. Such confidence! That was wonderful. Thanks. MORE PLEASE!!
tlg847 5 years ago
Really interesting!
samster13 5 years ago
I'd love a workshop like that.
LemKuiper 5 years ago
I'm gone for one day, and you have three new videos! Horray :D
Your dad sounds just like you!
Eemma 5 years ago
A lifetime's collection of tools....
yellowlabrador 5 years ago
haha! peri, you have the same crockery as me.
A few friends of mine built guitars at school as their Design technology projects. it's easier than you'd think but takes a hell of a long time.
tobyvacher 5 years ago
Consider Luthiering me an
F-Style Mando?
snagglepuss2209 5 years ago
your dad is great!
juliact 5 years ago
Your dad is great and he sounds just like ya. What an awesome talent.
pi314too 5 years ago
Can't wait to see the end result and hear you play on it :)
DeXimE 5 years ago
That was very interesting. High quality tubing!
Kwambonambi 5 years ago
nice video.
GraBear 5 years ago
I love projects like that with my Dad!
JimmyJames1978 5 years ago
Wow! This is so fascinating! That is so awesome that your dad has this talent! Will we see more as he makes progress with the guitar? I hope so because this is really cool.
PepperBrown 5 years ago
Freaking great stuff. Can't wait to see the finished product and hear how it plays.
ExposeTheDream 5 years ago
Great video. Very interesting. Thanks.
stuart250 5 years ago
Loved this video...
renetto 5 years ago
that's crazy wicked, mr urban. i wish da was handy enough to build me pianos. seems tae me that yours's a bit wary o youtube. i sympathise.
YourHouses 5 years ago
Neat! Definitely want to see more!
livingpassion 5 years ago
Nice video Peri. Hope you can show us some more, as the project progresses. You are fortunate to have a Dad that shares your intrest.
howlinfish 5 years ago
cool dad, nice shop:)
coreymon77 5 years ago
This is fascinating watching it take shape. Can't wait for the next installment.
kenrg 5 years ago
I second kerng's enthusiasm for the next installment.
ExperimentsinHonesty 5 years ago
Your new guitar is shaping up very nicely.
soupdragon1971 5 years ago
Im insanely facinated in this.
Has he ever built a 7 string guitar?
Anyhoo id love to see more of this.
Where abouts is it in Scotland your from? Im from Paisley :)
Bye Byes
OrielFilms 5 years ago
He has built one guitar body before. But never a seven string. I'm from East Lothian.
periurban 5 years ago
looks good man
ThrasherAleX 5 years ago
Now that's the sort of thing that keeps me logging on to YouTube. Facinating.
jmillerav 5 years ago
Very cool
FUBAR4U2 5 years ago
Interesting!
suburbanmom 5 years ago