Airsoft GI - AEG High Speed Set Up

[pointlesshavock]

"For the love of god dont do it" lmao i think i might just quote you now. Any thing over 20rps i think is over kill. Now all you are doing is filling in the gaps between the BB's that would hit the guy.

[AIRSOFTGIdotcom]

Can high speed set ups be reliable? Sure, but that really depends on your definition of high speed and your definition on reliable, it's all relative. From a business standpoint we will not go beyond a certain boundary with our upgrade work. That doesn't mean we are incompetent, but that's just not the focus of our upgrade services. I'm well aware that there are much faster guns out there with custom parts. By all means if you have one then make your own video.

[AIRSOFTGIdotcom]

Many of you are missing the point to this vid, and maybe its my fault for not being more clear. Anyway, the gun shown is by no means the fastest shooting gun in the world. Can it be made faster by short stroking/mosfet/deans etc...? Yes it can, but that's not something we do here at Airsoft GI. Most of you that can short stroke your own gears wouldn't bring your gun to us to upgrade in the first place.

[URM0MW4NT5MYJUNK]

23 rps if good for me.........

[sanders924]

that guy looks like john gosselin

[cccplt]

how as in what way can this break your gun cuz i wanted to put a hi-speed motor in my g36c

[see46]

they did, wtf

[aircannonmaster]

so then wat is the fastest gun u will build before it becomes unreliable

[rmkeurekarider6969]

i cerrently shoot 370 at 33 rps reliabley and i only go through a piston every 30k rounds so what there telling you is false and this is on a 11.1 13c lipo so thats true it can be reliable on a lipo. also the techs probably dont even know what short strokeing is and thats why there guns break so easily

[see46]

the world record is 44 RPS by KWA m4

[desertfox2020]

I heard it was 50 something on a TM P90

[zerocheese]

So thise is all about rpm or bps they call it not fps right? They should do a video for higher fps.

[justnatr1157]

they did

[dakdewolf]

they did

[kittyman187]

Guys. airsoftgi is only trying to make sure that the guns they make are reliable. These techs are some of the best. They are just looking out for their customers.

[ctres94]

what I see others have already covered is that there are some things missing here. one is the short stroking of the gears and piston, another is a mosfet, and what I don't think has been mentioned is the idea of using different brands all in the same setup. at extreme ends of the spectrum, tiny differences can mess things up completely. another thing is a PERFECT shim job is ABSOLUTELY NECCESARY.

[PnoyBoi4Ever]

HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!

[rmkeurekarider6969]

IF YOUR BREAKING PISTONS THAT FAST IN THAT P90 YOUR STAFF MUST NOT KNOW SHIT ABOUT WHAT THERE DOING. iF YOU WANT IT RELIABLE YOU HAVE TO SHORT STROKE IT AND AOE CORRECT IT AND YES HI SPEED GUNS ARE RELIABLE ON LIPOS IF YOU ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING.

[desertfox2020]

calm down

[DisguisedAirsofter]

you won't break the pistons faster than normal if you correct the AoE and use an AB mosfet... 32 is doable on clone gearbox parts if you set it up right (and on a TM you can get it with short stroking, metal bushings, spacer to keep fps, and a 12v battery)

[AirsoftM4KWA]

i perfer the g&p m120 high speed motor

[DisguisedAirsofter]

yeah, it's more reliable than the systema, and almost the same speed

[godsairsofters]

i just bought mine

[budsHanzoSword]

Who cares about high speed. This isn't paintball idiots.

[godsairsofters]

ONLY 32RPS thats not that fast i have seen 44 48 52 i have seen a 538 fps at 32rps. iam sorry but thats not that amazing for the people who do not bleve me pm me i will send you a link to the vids of guns that shoot faster

[x1Ghillie1x]

But you have never owned one and it is not ethical what so ever.

[godsairsofters]

that dose not matter the fact that the info that tim give is wrong

[x1Ghillie1x]

Your English is wrong too. He never gave any false information. He just said it is a high speed gun.

[godsairsofters]

the info that he is saying that you can not have a reliable high speed gun thats the false info he is giving

[x1Ghillie1x]

Oh my bad. Sorry

Nice vids by the way :)

[desertfox2020]

It's not false info, shooting that fast will break sooner than a stock gun it's simple wear and tear.

[godsairsofters]

look i am a airsoft tech this guy dose not know what he is talking about. look bottom line you can have a gun that shoots 30 + rps and be reliable

[desertfox2020]

I know quite a bit about AEG internals also, but you don't need that to know that putting more stress on something makes it break faster. That's all I'm saying.

[brutalback]

Nice, what setup do you have?

Post a video, I was thinking about making a high speed setup.

[paddyspoint2]

tim is very eloquent.

[shinylatios2007]

4:04 BB falls out lol

[Pr1tch4rd]

Doesnt even sound very healthy :S

[Cosmo1093]

lol my simple solution is a KWA M4/M16 or G36 with a 11.1v lipo... High velocity AND high speed..

or just buy the KWA complete gearbox for the m4 and either:

A. change the air nozzle and just drop it into your gun, or

B. gut the KWA gearbox and put all those internals into the gun that youre upgrading..

[Cosmo1093]

forgot to mention.. ive played around with my friends high speed m4 that shoots at 35 shots per second at 330 fps, and he hasnt had any problems at all except for the fact that high caps cant keep up with that ROF.. (35 shots per second plus a tracer unit at night is FUN!!!)

[geosky19]

7.4 LiPos are more reliable for general use and high speed set ups, which I use. Stock P90 motor and high speed gears do their job, and that's all I need. I don't want a hose.

[kevintao95]

i was there and it hurt... D:

[darkshadowscene]

lol the bb that just fell out of the barrel

[metalchocobo410]

ive actually done this with my own p90. i custom short stroked my piston, custom motor cables, JG high torque motor, re-shimed with systema shims and re-lubed perfectly. And ran it using a 11.1 1300 mah lipo. shot perfectly at over 25 bbs a sec. its been a couple of months, and no issues yet. high speed is possible BUT requires much care.

[ArmadylBH3Risgod]

Tim, here's something you need to do. Show everyone how to replace a m4 hand grip!

[coolbreez78]

he did fuckin dumb ass

[nimdawf]

he did

[kevintao95]

LOL he did and do u even check all of the other vids he post in one day?....

[MemorableC]

an m120 and a g&p m120 motor with a lipo of your choice will have a good rate of fire too

[KLX1990]

2000 rpm...wow talk about too much lol

the thing i dont get, most fields near me dont allow over 400 fps for aegs, and if super high ROF isnt good, and you cant exceed 400 fps..whats the point of upgrading?

range and accuracy?

making a gun last longer?

possibly higher fps and accuracy but with a much much heavier bb?

[manicdemise]

you might need to downgrade if the FPS is too high or you might buy a TM or something with only say 300fps so you upograde it to be like 390fps to compete better.

but yeh i get what your saying, high ROF just means you need to carry more mags. People just need to aim better and play better

[animalmoth3r]

aluminum piston head is a bad idea for any gun. no reason to have one really, just more stress on the gearbox shell.

I have seen guns running 50+ rps quite reliably, but it requires a good deal of short stroking and custom modifications to the piston and gearset.

High speed with unmodified (short stroked/ swiss cheesed) pistons and gearsets, even systema, will not last a long time.

[OSU5312]

How many guns have you even seen go above 50 RPS?

[animalmoth3r]

2...

[dxfan212]

a guy on one of the other teams in my area has an SR 16 with 40 rounds a second and breaks almost every game

[CAMMANDERCGF]

LOL

[andwhatelse]

Why would you even want that it demolishes your ammo

[tmp90freak]

I have to agree with Osu5312, because i have had this set up for about a year or two (dont remember) The onyl thing i have to say is I dont use a lipo, i use a 10.8 volt. By the way i am using a p90.

[yakuza129]

thats a load of shit!! i run a highspeed configuration in my gun and its been fine for the last year and a half running an M110 spring at about 26rps

[destroyer91292]

A few things i dont understand here Tim. For one, I do believe high speed setups are indeed possible. My proof would be the KWA line of guns. I have the 2nd Gen. KWA m4a1 and running a 11.1 lipo in it, it gets 390 fps. steady with around 27 bps. The best part is that ive put about 12k rounds through it with absolutely no problem. never had to open the gearbox or regreased. yes i know this isnt a "custom" setup for a gun, its factory...im aware of that, just proving that high speed IS reliable

[eckoman11]

Actually, according to KWA themselves, their KM4A1 model runs at 22-23rps on an 11.1v Lithium ion Polymer battery.

[destroyer91292]

Yeah but companies anyways under rate their guns. FPS, BPS, everything is under rated. Im sure you could look up some videos on here that have peoples BPS running on a 11.1 and you can easily tell its way more than 22-23

[eckoman11]

Actually, you'd be surprised. Even though it may seem to be shooting at 27rps, until it is measured, it just isn't reliable. I've heard people talking about their stock JGs running at 25rps on an 8.4v NiMH. Of course, they just don't have experience with a gun that shoots 35rps, so they can't really judge it accurately. You seem to know your stuff and not be severely exaggerating or anything, but high speed setups in terms of REAL high speed, IS unreliable. Period.

[destroyer91292]

Ive actually seen people rate there guns at 27bps w/ 11.1 lipos in a stock KWA b4. And REAL high speed like your talking, in the way of 35bps is just retarded. And yes, i could agree that its unreliable. At 35bps, youll be shredding the piston in no time with short stroking it. Which is what Tim said...i know. I consider anything above 25bps to be high speed. i dont consider a high speed gun to be able to shoot 5 shots at 35bps...thats just ludacris.

[eckoman11]

What I meant by real high speed setups is a setup with every part designed for a higher rate of fire, not a reliable setup with some parts for high speeds and others for high torque. I know that can get a good rate of fire, but I consider that a normal setup.

[thesuperbosses]

dang imagine that p90 hooked up to a car battery......

[Christianmarquez]

Before I watch the video, I'm guessing:

11.1 Lipo, All Polycarb parts, 9mm Ball bearings, Steel gears, reinforced gearbox.

Lets see how close(Or far) I am xD.

[kevinwearspradadood]

fail dood

[OSU5312]

Tim, that is a load of bull shit. ALOT of this stuff is wrong. If you want the right info on high speed set-up PM me. Do NOT listen to any of this. DO NOT! I REPAET DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS! HIGH SPEED SET-UPS CAN BE RELIABLE!

[godsairsofters]

your completely right iam a airsoft tech to me its sounds like they are just getting lazy

[gamemaster1199]

i dont go crazy with lipos but i only use 9.6s

[JACOBxxx909]

.....cool......

[IsLaNdErBoY1]

kool

[guitarherorawks20]

Very  nice.