At least one person must be completely familiar with the plane, that was a very important factor in the "chain of errors". It is shameful and ridiculous that at least one of the two american pilots were not proficient with the plane controls and instruments. Even so, they took the responsibility for the plane and the passenger's lives. Would YOU fly with these so-called "professionals"?
WRONG TRANSLATION at 5:59 when the Pilot asks the other if the TCAS is on, the other pilot replies, YEP IT IS ON. But this Brazilian Globo de Merda news, translated E, o TCAS esta desligado. Go ahead and sue those idiots at Globo for lying and being incompetent. We Brazilians are too stupid to do that, so please, you Americans sue this shit news channel because at least you got the balls to do so. Stupid documentary with false translation, what an embarrassment of Brazil....
Also, ICAO's Annex 6 states that "the pilot-in-command has the final responsibility to make sure that flight preparation is complete and conforms to all requirements".
If the pilot-in-command had got familiarized with the Legacy's NAV/COM equipment BEFORE the flight, the FMS (Flight Management System) and TCAS (Traffic Collision Avoidance System) wouldn't have been turned off by these irresponsible folks.
PS: the brazilian ATC uses equipment and software bought from the US.
The biggest error came from the pilots. The pilot-in-command has the major responsibility. The pilots of the Legacy should've got familiarized with the brazilian flight regulations and the plane's NAV/COM equipment BEFORE flight, not en-route.
Read ICAO's Annex 2 (Rules of the Air), specially itens 2.3.1, 2.3.2, 3.1.1, and the note to the item 3.2.
ATC is a AUXILIARY service: despite of it's eventual failures, the final decision and responsibility is to the pilot-in-command.
The biggest problem was that TCAS was accidently turn off without an audio warning. The pilot/copilot foot rest is located next to the TCAS switch and it was accidently turned off by the pilots (probably when looking through the manual). At the conclusion of the investigation, all Embraer Legacy plances were required to provide an audio indicator when TCAS was turned off. If TCAS was on...all would have been saved.
Where is it written? I have read the whole investigation report by CENIPA (the brazilian authority which conducted the investigation along with representatives from Embraer, ExcelAire, FAA, Honeywell and ACSS -- manufacturer of the TCAS equipment) but haven't found this affirmation. The official conclusion was that the pilots didn't properly configure the TCAS (reason why it went into stand-by mode, some time later) and due to their "poor monitoring" they didn't notice that.
As the official report says, the "TCAS OFF" warning was displayed on both PFDs and the "STANDBY" mode was displayed on both RMUs. However, no one noticed the warnings, since the N600XL was under autopilot and both pilots were distracted with the computer calculations (takeoff and landing parameters to Manaus): around 19:02:08Z, the only activity comes from the synchronous work of the PIC and SIC, on the laptop.
Anyway... An audio warning definitely could've helped to improve safety.
Negligence is the reason for all of this... The pilots were completely irresponsible in not knowing the systems they were using. In case you don't know how to operate a system, you have to use an alternative. In this case, you have to be vigilant for traffic and consult ATC for help. ATC was also negligent in not responding. If you have radio silence, no TCAS, it's time to be alert... you're not flying VFR at 1000ft with a Piper Cub. You're at 37000ft probably around mach .80....
In the occasion brazilian government made an effort to hide the fact that the air-trafic control system was already obsolet. Obviously the pilots of the legacy had theyir responsability, for some reason however the control tower personal did not manage to alert them. After the accident things bacame worse. Air-trafic system workers set on strike not to accept the total fault imposed by government and military on them respecting to the inability to communicate the legacy crew.
It was HOMICIDE. However these 2 INCONSEQUENTIAL, ARROGANT, STUPID AMERICANS are steel living in FREEDOM, while 154 FAMILIES are now BURIED with their INOCCENT relatives
Why thesse 2 animals are so inconsequent? Because that's the kind of person that grows in that country. GARBAGE in, GARBAGE out.
Their filosofy is so simple. "We're the best, so we can do just what we want and NOBODY can CONTEST"
OK first of all the Brasilian story is WRONG ok @ 5:57 he asked if the TCAS was on and the media changed the translation when the pilot specifically said it was ON and finally the Brasilian controllers NEVER once responded their calls they called at LEAST 8 times with no response fuck you brasilian government get your shit straight!
@LuvAirTraffic it doesn't matter how it happended, your forgeting the big picture. 154 people, with families died, because of the irresponsibility of pilots or what not. If it was a Brazilian jet the crashed unto an American Boeing, and killed 154 AMERICANS, how would the American media, and people would react. Knowing how Americans, are they would start World War III on Brazil.
@ericorenato88 This American is deeply ashamed at watching this video. The American pilots were wrong. Please look at the case, the controllers put both flights at the same altitude. You're right about the American legal system, humble apologies. Nothing can make it right. Loss of life over an accident that nobody wanted.
The Portuguese translation is wrong. The US pilot says "I guess the TCAS is on."
nononever9 7 months ago
At least one person must be completely familiar with the plane, that was a very important factor in the "chain of errors". It is shameful and ridiculous that at least one of the two american pilots were not proficient with the plane controls and instruments. Even so, they took the responsibility for the plane and the passenger's lives. Would YOU fly with these so-called "professionals"?
zozuef 7 months ago
I never knew Ai translates to Ohhh...
Jackal2286 8 months ago
WRONG TRANSLATION at 5:59 when the Pilot asks the other if the TCAS is on, the other pilot replies, YEP IT IS ON. But this Brazilian Globo de Merda news, translated E, o TCAS esta desligado. Go ahead and sue those idiots at Globo for lying and being incompetent. We Brazilians are too stupid to do that, so please, you Americans sue this shit news channel because at least you got the balls to do so. Stupid documentary with false translation, what an embarrassment of Brazil....
phili878 8 months ago
morons do not know how to fly
VendPrekmurec 11 months ago
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Also, ICAO's Annex 6 states that "the pilot-in-command has the final responsibility to make sure that flight preparation is complete and conforms to all requirements".
If the pilot-in-command had got familiarized with the Legacy's NAV/COM equipment BEFORE the flight, the FMS (Flight Management System) and TCAS (Traffic Collision Avoidance System) wouldn't have been turned off by these irresponsible folks.
PS: the brazilian ATC uses equipment and software bought from the US.
sampayu 1 year ago 5
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sampayu 1 year ago
The biggest error came from the pilots. The pilot-in-command has the major responsibility. The pilots of the Legacy should've got familiarized with the brazilian flight regulations and the plane's NAV/COM equipment BEFORE flight, not en-route.
Read ICAO's Annex 2 (Rules of the Air), specially itens 2.3.1, 2.3.2, 3.1.1, and the note to the item 3.2.
ATC is a AUXILIARY service: despite of it's eventual failures, the final decision and responsibility is to the pilot-in-command.
sampayu 1 year ago 2
The biggest problem was that TCAS was accidently turn off without an audio warning. The pilot/copilot foot rest is located next to the TCAS switch and it was accidently turned off by the pilots (probably when looking through the manual). At the conclusion of the investigation, all Embraer Legacy plances were required to provide an audio indicator when TCAS was turned off. If TCAS was on...all would have been saved.
roninm5 4 months ago
@roninm5
Where is it written? I have read the whole investigation report by CENIPA (the brazilian authority which conducted the investigation along with representatives from Embraer, ExcelAire, FAA, Honeywell and ACSS -- manufacturer of the TCAS equipment) but haven't found this affirmation. The official conclusion was that the pilots didn't properly configure the TCAS (reason why it went into stand-by mode, some time later) and due to their "poor monitoring" they didn't notice that.
sampayu 4 months ago
@roninm5
As the official report says, the "TCAS OFF" warning was displayed on both PFDs and the "STANDBY" mode was displayed on both RMUs. However, no one noticed the warnings, since the N600XL was under autopilot and both pilots were distracted with the computer calculations (takeoff and landing parameters to Manaus): around 19:02:08Z, the only activity comes from the synchronous work of the PIC and SIC, on the laptop.
Anyway... An audio warning definitely could've helped to improve safety.
sampayu 4 months ago
Negligence is the reason for all of this... The pilots were completely irresponsible in not knowing the systems they were using. In case you don't know how to operate a system, you have to use an alternative. In this case, you have to be vigilant for traffic and consult ATC for help. ATC was also negligent in not responding. If you have radio silence, no TCAS, it's time to be alert... you're not flying VFR at 1000ft with a Piper Cub. You're at 37000ft probably around mach .80....
magknight 1 year ago
In the occasion brazilian government made an effort to hide the fact that the air-trafic control system was already obsolet. Obviously the pilots of the legacy had theyir responsability, for some reason however the control tower personal did not manage to alert them. After the accident things bacame worse. Air-trafic system workers set on strike not to accept the total fault imposed by government and military on them respecting to the inability to communicate the legacy crew.
Elyasmcmdxiv 1 year ago
It was HOMICIDE. However these 2 INCONSEQUENTIAL, ARROGANT, STUPID AMERICANS are steel living in FREEDOM, while 154 FAMILIES are now BURIED with their INOCCENT relatives
Why thesse 2 animals are so inconsequent? Because that's the kind of person that grows in that country. GARBAGE in, GARBAGE out.
Their filosofy is so simple. "We're the best, so we can do just what we want and NOBODY can CONTEST"
I DONT NEED YOUR DISRESPECT
WE'LL NEVER FORGET
psYchotube10 1 year ago 5
@psYchotube10
who is guilty though, they BOTH had no idea they were going to crash, despite the fact that EVERY plane must have that anti colision system.
Laserchicken88 1 year ago
now let 's see if augum U.S. recalls this incident, see remember that mark q left the Brazilian people in general
NetrixOriginal 1 year ago
OK first of all the Brasilian story is WRONG ok @ 5:57 he asked if the TCAS was on and the media changed the translation when the pilot specifically said it was ON and finally the Brasilian controllers NEVER once responded their calls they called at LEAST 8 times with no response fuck you brasilian government get your shit straight!
LuvAirTraffic 1 year ago
@LuvAirTraffic it doesn't matter how it happended, your forgeting the big picture. 154 people, with families died, because of the irresponsibility of pilots or what not. If it was a Brazilian jet the crashed unto an American Boeing, and killed 154 AMERICANS, how would the American media, and people would react. Knowing how Americans, are they would start World War III on Brazil.
ericorenato88 1 year ago 10
@ericorenato88 This American is deeply ashamed at watching this video. The American pilots were wrong. Please look at the case, the controllers put both flights at the same altitude. You're right about the American legal system, humble apologies. Nothing can make it right. Loss of life over an accident that nobody wanted.
lakeguild 10 months ago
@LuvAirTraffic you are a piece of shit
PsilocybeBRA 1 month ago