Church's Inquisition -Torturing Those Who Disagreed (2 of 6)

[equarg]

The only ones who support torture...

Don't think they will be subject to it.

For me Water Boarding is torture.....I may be "conservative" but I am 100% against torture.

Good interrogation does not use torture. It may play mind games, the person may be victim to "Stockholm syndrome"....but no physical harm may be implemented!

[titandata2]

"[The Spaniards] took babies from their mothers' breasts, grabbing them by the feet and smashing their heads against rocks. . . . They built a long gibbet, low enough for the toes to touch the ground and prevent strangling, and hanged thirteen [natives] at a time in honor of Christ Our Saviour and the twelve Apostles. . . . Then, straw was wrapped around their torn bodies and they were burned alive."

[jaquie321]

Organised religion is used by man to control people. They aren't doing Gods work, they are using religion with politics for power.

Yes the Christians did this horrific treatment in the past but so too are other religions like extremist muslims today engaging in barbaric practises and it must stop. God does not wish people to suffer, especially like this.

[anelqg]

when i was a little girl my aunt forced me to go to church every Sunday catholic) i was 8 I already could tell it wasn't a good place ' church supposed to be a positive place with love, peace instead they would tell me i was gonna go to hell and burn forever if i was bad i was just a girl ....how could they teach something like that to a 8 year old nuf said

[PhilK1231]

Absolutely. Catholics are still trying to airbrush this out of history. Like they are with child-abuse by bishops

The Irish-Americans bigots are the worst at this (they're not at all like Father Ted, you hypocrites)

But lets not forget islam is hardly blood free.

Quite the opposite in fact.

And they're doing it NOW, not 600 years ago.

[MrVraiable]

missed the point it was the torturing of those who did not submit. there was a political revolution that include the deliberate sampling of religous motives and fiction that suited the curent state. no one is expected to believe a tabloid.

[perz777]

Please stop accusing honest christians of doing such things. The Pope is not a christian nor the Templars nor the cruzaders. Shall we say that the ABU SAYAF or the Moro Islamic Liberation Front which does torture, skinning christians alive and beheading innocent christians in the Philippines are the NATURE of MUSLIMS. Its not quite fair to all Islams right? You are barking at the wrong tree!!!!

[kytekutter]

Catholicism is not true Christianity and put tradition over the Bible! They killed millions of true Christians just for owning Bibles. The Mystery Babylon Mother of Harlots spoke of in Revelation!

[themalina92]

In the Irish massacres alone there perished 150,000 Protestants. Catholics need to know their history and they need to start reading their Bibles to learn what the Bible truth really is. 

[StaticJolts]

@themalina92 The bible truth? Or the bible fantasy? No faith is valid, if one is coersed into professing it. That's why Islam is a false religion...cause only fear and retribution will compel one to follow such a religion. Believe or die....that flies in the face of the concept of a loving God! Belive in me or I'll kill you! Yeah...no thanks!

[PhilK1231]

@themalina92 The Irish have a good reason to be annoyed at stuff like the potato famine. BUT they seem to think ONLY catholics suffered (mainly because bigots think this way), THEY DIDN'T. Protestants in France were treated worse. The priests bishops and cardinals had a lot to lose so were vicious.

The hypocrisy of Catholocism is palpable. Eastern Orthodox Christianity is closer to how Christianity was supposed to be. But basic protestantism is cleaner.Islam is worse than Catholicism NOW though.

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[kdavidkdr]

Kudos to the oldest mens' club in the world, the catholic church. It's moved on from out right torturing everyone to torturing the youngest the church swore to protect. Thumbs up to the pope and all his cronies, your doing the devils work so well. The church is well on it's way to complete implosion.

[ChrisDaron]

@kdavidkdr Wow.. you sure are ignorant, pal! hehehe quite so...

[PhilK1231]

@ChrisDaron You would think that. You're catholic, eh ?

[ChrisDaron]

@PhilK1231 Think what?

[KuriousKind]

Romans held slave battles to the death and fed the audience to the lions!!!... Germans gassed people, and along with the Japanese, starved and worked people to death in camps!!!... Middle Eastern terrorists cut off people's heads on camera and it's posted on YouTube!!!... Africans maim villagers and burn them alive!!!...Americans hold prisoners indefinitely with no proof or trial, use stress torture, kicking, water boarding, and forbid prayer to a 'different' God!!! HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF!!!

[loranalary]

christians "today" have no power .. muslims have. or it seems so. .they have the power to kill ppl still ..and did exactly the same things as christians in their time. I would like to see the look on their faces , all of them .. when they die and realise there's no god .. lol! you should stop throwing oil on the fire (not you in particular, who posted this, ok? ) .. and read more books .. you could learn interesting things .. for a change

[1929spectre]

not because they did not believe the bible moron ,because they didnt believe in the church ? christianity and christendom are two different things ? biblical christianity and christendoms christianity are not the same .

[munkstaven]

zzzzzz gonna watch a porn documentary instead

[jamesglory1]

These videos are misleading. The Catholic religion responsible is NOT Christian.

50 million bible beleivers were killed over 600+ years under the brutal hand of 70+ successive popes.

Christians did not kill Christians.

Deceptive nonsense.

[hopezain]

Yes, Christians did kill Christians. Have you heard about "The crusades?" If not,you can watch the documentary about it right here on youtube. Search "The crescent and the cross"

[jamesglory1]

rubbish.

[hopezain]

Well, if you want to deny historic facts be my guest. BTW I do not know which faith you are referring to when you say "Moslem."

[jamesglory1]

not any history iv'e ever read.

God bless you.

goodbye.

[oly355]

@hopezain haha is someone is denying the truth? xD HAHA he should start having a life poor guy xD

[RockyBalboa211]

@jamesglory1: 50 million people did not die over 600 years, first not actually possible and second in what way were these people killed? If in the crusades, I do not know how anyone can be against, since we had to defend ourselves from the muslims. Also if you mean through the inquisition all of that was done through secular hands, and it you mean the ustashe, well those were individual priests that commited those acts during ww2..

[lifeandfire1]

All religion is nothing but fraudulent horseshit. If people actually reflected on what was written in the bible or the Koran, they wouldn't be Christians or Muslims.

[jamesglory1]

nonsense.

[dopaminevitae]

The Catholic Church has always been evil incarnate.

[GILR8]

To @dopaminevitae : So Thank Christ Our Lord that we

can still put up with all of your stupid insults & attacks. Ignorant People like you give Our Holy Cathoic Church New Sufferings to Glorify God & Our Holy Martyrs! So Please, more abuse you amatuers...Get Out the sticks & stones to break our bones because your words & insults are awfully boring & un-original.

[GILR8]

To @dopaminevitae :

I know! Try cursing us in Latin! It's our official language of 'The Church.

Really let yourselves go & "indulgence"

yourselves....especially you "kellann55"

(wink..wink..) -PAX-

[madarab405]

All religeon is bupkis.

[MaRtyDBB]

the U.S. court system has put more people to death in a shorter time span then the total amount of people put to death during a 337 year tim span during the spanish inquistion. its true

[kellann55]

I think its funny that protestants put on airs like they are so much better than Catholics...never realizing that they worship a bible that catholics invented and celebrate holidays that catholics invented and follow a theology catholics invented. hehehe....

[Chiyo1967]

It was Protestants, not the Catholics, who instituted the Salem Witch trials. You'd think they would've learned from the mistakes the Catholics had made? Now, they're both making the same old mistakes all over again. In Nigeria children are being murdered in the name of Jesus, because they're suspected of Witchcraft. In Uganda, gays are being murdered in the name of Jesus. All at the behest of american politicians who want to do the same in USA. Read; The Family by Jeff Sharlet.

[RasMajnouni]

The Protestants fought the Catholics in the "100 years war"and many Catholics were killed or expelled.What can be expected from a religion basing its truths on bad translations?

[o4heavensake]

@Chiyo1967

You believe what the murderers have to say about the event?

Obviously it was those who belong to Christ being murdered. It always is.

Christians believe in loving your neighbor as yourself. If they don't believe that then they're not Christian.

2Cr 11:14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 2Cr 11:15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

[ptm5150]

Yeah, excellent point...

[RasMajnouni]

P.S. and vice versa the Catholics hounded the non-believers.All infidels were suspect.

[ptm5150]

Hounded? Hahaha, my mom hounded me to clean my room when I was little. I think terrorized does it a little more justice but I am just splitting hairs. Oh and to take a sh

[RasMajnouni]

Actually,I'm Jewish,I think we hold the record for not even being given the chance to (G-D forbid) convert to Christianity or Islam and just killed straight off.Egyptians,Greeks,Babylonia­ns and Romans preceeded you and got us in shape for mass killings, by the Common Era we were professionals and quite used to it.But lets not blame this on G-D or religion,rather ourselves.

[safeinHIShands]

I personally do not follow christmas (xmas is more truthful), easter, or hold sunday as my sabbath. but exactly which theological doctrines are you referring to, that catholics invented?

[kellann55]

They invented something that REALLY offended me when I learned about it. The concept of "Indulgences" look that one up!

But as for ones that Protestants still follow, just look at Sunday. The church changed the Sabbath to Sunday, not Jesus. The church said you could eat pork, not Jesus. The church said you no longer need to be circumcised, not Jesus...etc. But ESPECIALLY the doctrine of the Trinity! Which is not in the bible and never mentioned by Jesus.

[jamesglory1]

Wrong.

Not the KJV.

do your research.

[Adrillius]

@kellann55 Oh please. Catholics ask you to pray Idols (like Mary of the saints...). Do I, Protestant, recommend such thing ? And the Bible was inspired by God and kept by true believers... not Catholics.

[RockyBalboa211]

@Adrillius: what true believers? My research shows that the catholic church had beautiful bibles and kept them locked up like the jews did with the torahs.

[Adrillius]

@RockyBalboa211

It is a good thing that you say that.

Because, "to keep the Bible" doesn't mean "to keep it locked up" !!!

And that's exactly why they're not good... it's because they don't want the Bible to be read by the people.

To keep the Bible means to have it in our hearts and share it with others as a good news for everyone.

[RockyBalboa211]

@Adrillius: Yet, what would the common people of the middle ages do with the bibles. I mean most likely they would not be able to read them, because overall the vast vast majority was illiterate. Also this is the word of God on page, these beautiful bibles were only used by the clergy during worship and placed away so that they would not be stolen. These books that contained the word of God were physical treasures and spiritual treasures.

[MaizatulAmirah]

the true christian was only at the time of jesus or prophet isa (in Islam).

[jamesglory1]

Thats nonsense again...

[nrittam]

And lets all contribute to the church charity.

So that pope and his priests, can have a very sophisticated lifestyle..

[nrittam]

Practice what you preach.. turn the 'other' cheek, is what jesus said..

If so, why are you replying here, just turn your other cheek, or in today's terminology, turn over the keyboard.. you fool

The catholic missions have made entire cultures extinct..

[NeoDanomaru]

If sorry but I'm I reading that second part of the description correctly?! It says that the church ACTUALLY tortured and burned 12 year olds and above just because they disagree with the interpretations of the Church?!?!?!?!?!?!

[JSMcCainRocks]

Did you know FDR sent American pilots and planes to attack Japanese targets in China before the Pearl Harbor attack?

Truman dropped 2 atomic bombs onto innocent children in Japan.

Truman got us into a war with the Commis in Korea.

A Commie killed JFK.

LBJ got us into a war with the Commies in Vietnam.

Libs = Global Death

[ProtectYourFamily101]

all in the name of jesus.....Criminals

[jgstargazer]

In the end, we are all judged by history. In this case, the papacy was no better than a dictatorship when it came to its victims.

[selcuklu]

The segment that starts out with "Whoso ever shall disobey him... " that part is in the Jesuit oath of loyalty.

[CioccolatinoSvizzero]

watch goay's ghost ...

[229095]

Definitely. I just saw that last night.

[ssatrofma]

LiquidSmooth,

You are placing Mary in a _false_ historical context, repeating mythological arguments from post-Reformation Europe when Catholics and Protestants were fighting not for theological but for _political_ reasons - which no longer exist.

Mary is simply the mother of Jesus, who taught universal love and compassion. As his mother, Mary is loved for her quintessential motherly qualities: unconditional love, gentleness and strength under adversity.

Why are you so afraid of her?

[mactopolis]

the bible has spread like an angry virus and in the hands of fascist minded people it can only destroy...destroy...destroy

[mactopolis]

the bible should be treated like a poison

[LiquidSmooth]

Well, the bible says to love one another as yourself. It says not to murder, kill, etc... cause we were created in the image of God, so it is like doing this to GOd when we do bad. And God is love. And God defines what love is and Godly character is.

So you think we should treat the bible like poison, and not forgive others as Jesus Christ forgave us? Do you think we should murder and torture people?

[ssatrofma]

Well, in the Old Testament, Yahweh tells us to '...kill every male among the little ones and kill every woman who has known a man intimately / But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls......' (Numbers 31: 17). 'Samaria is held guilty, for she has rebelled against her God. They shall fall by the sword, their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child ripped open.' (Hosea 14:16) etc.

Yes, Jesus is wonderful.

But with a 'God' like Yahweh, who needs the Devil?

[ShichiFukujin1000]

@ssatrofma

sometimes i even think that the devil is more good than god itself

[Mattithyahuw]

@ssatrofma The Bible is corrupted. The original Numbers 31 passage doesn't read the way it does in all Bibles. I can talk to you about proof for this if you are interested.

[mactopolis]

people are today persecuted for loving

[dieper2dieper]

yep. thats how christians today came to power,

torture, genocide, mass murder, exploitation, slavery, anything basicly.

damn, the church must be a good thing.

[miguelmouta]

All religions, Cruzades, Capitalism, Communism and National-Socialism also are all good things...

[dieper2dieper]

capitalizm. communism and National-Socialism

are hardly a religion, basicly because they

don't act upon insane orders from a imaginairy friend.

[LiquidSmooth]

No no no. Christians were martyred. Catholics on the other hand, tortured CHristians for merely translating the Bible into english.

Look who Bush and Clinton would bow to, it is the Pope. They are closet catholics.

Protestants say the Pope and the Roman Catholic Church is the Great Whore of Babylon, which gets drunk on the blood of saints.

No protestant christian would call a catholic a christian. The obey the Pope, not God. God never told anyone to pray to Mary. The Pope blasphemies

[ssatrofma]

Nobody orders Catholics to pray to Mary, my friend. Most Catholics take the Pope with a grain of salt and ignore ones they don't like.

I was raised a Catholic, but strongly agreed with the book "A Protestant's Manifesto," which I read around age 20.

Now I'm an atheist, thank God.

Mary simply represents motherly love.

My ultra-conservative Lutheran grandmother bashed Catholics all her life, but what did she want by her death bed? A big 'Papist' statue of Mary!

You might too.

[LiquidSmooth]

Mary Worship is nothing but rewrapped Babylonian religion.

Semiramis and Nimrod led the Babylonian culture. Nimrod was worshipped like God because of his physical starure. When Nimrod died, Semiramis slepted around. She got pregnant. She didn't want to be known as a harlot.

Now people of that time knew about the prophecy God gave Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Semiramis was known as the Virgin Queen (not that she was a virgin, but had never had sex after Nimrod died).

[LiquidSmooth]

So in order to cover up being a harlot, she thought about that bible prophecy. And so she claimed Nimrod had transmigrated to her womb. There is alot of confusion between Nimrod and her son, cause both were given alot of the same names. Gilgamesh, MRDK, NMRD, Baal, since they were suppose to be the same people. Later he dies from a boar hunt. Then she says he got transmigrated into the Sun, hence the beginning of Sun worship. Semiramis was the Mother, the belief was the Sun would listen to her

[LiquidSmooth]

But no where in the Bible does it give any special relevance to Mary. In fact, later when Mary calls for Jesus, he even rebukes her. And he said, "who are my mother and my brothers." Then he gestures to the crowd where he was teaching, while his mother and brothers were away from that crowd "Behold my mother and brothers".

The bible also says there is only one mediator between God and man, and that is th Lord Jesus Christ. So no, i wont be given in to babylonian worship

[goldmen7]

Inquisition was under Pope,how can a it say it is Christian. Romanism always claim apostolic succession for the Pope,one can see this is false,because a true Christian will not carry out this kind of killing.

[PhilK1231]

@dieper2dieper Religous nutters do this. Not just christians. And it's catholics that did what he's on about. Not proddies. Oh, and Torquemada was a convert jewish feller. And Islam's doing the same NOW, not centuries ago (they were doing much the same themselves, you know) Where would you find religous police ? Rome ? London ? New York ? Israel ?

Nope - Islamic countries. They enforce even with NON-muslims.

I hate ALL religions.

[xingwei12]

@dieper2dieper Roman Catholic church , Learn the difference,. "-_-"

[PilotGleb]

@dieper2dieper This video talks about Christian people being tortured for believing, and not suiting the church.

[doobersmanster]

@dieper2dieper THey were killing and torturing Christian protestants...Those Catholics that were doing these tortures were not Christians.

[DJonrustnv]

Because some power hungry criminals inveted god millions died in the name of allah and god. I realy think that's more than stupid. First off all proof without any doubt that god is real before killing people for a psychotic rage. Second that some psychotic powermongers wrote the thora, bible and koran isn't real proof. No gods, no masters stop the killing for fairy tales

[DJonrustnv]

The Thora, the Bible and the Koran are a fraud. To keep men for thinking for theselves. And keep religious power mongers in power. The proof for that is the blackmail with hell. And ALL religions say they've got the truth. Because they have all different truths, it's proof their ALL a lie.

[LiquidSmooth]

Brainwashed Zietgeist watcher.

Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life". God is Truth, cause if things aren't truely there, then they aren't really there.

If there is no God, there is no reality.

Before I became a christian, the people that were telling me about the constitution, telling me the IRS and Federal reserve were unconstitutional, and such, they were all christians. All Zeitgeist did was steal their research and tried to steer you away from the true root cause

[SlaytanicWarrior420]

Did the Easter Bunny tell you that?

[LiquidSmooth]

You are the one being puppeted by satan with lies. You dangle on his strings.

Want to know who the real NWO is? Look behind the Vatican.

Look at the catholic priests leading anti-gun rallies. Look at them supporting amnesty and no border wall. Look at who our presidents bow to, even though they claim to be chirstian, they bow to the Pope. Look who was behind Nazi germany. The current Pope as a youth, was part of Hitlers Youth Movement. there are pictures to verify this.

[miguelmouta]

Hey LiquidSmooth, would you mind in inviting-me to be your friend again ? I ´d touch a wrong key and deleted all. Thanks.

[envanje]

the hidden motive behind the autodefe was not religious but as always a matter of money. to finance his disastrous wars he lend a lot of money from the uptill then not bothered jews. by time of repayment his treasury was empty and the catholic church offered him a solution in organising the pogroms. by converting into christianity they could save their live but not their money which was always confiscated.

[6925319]

jesus did not invent catholitism people later did ,he and (buddies)the deciples were jewish

[ozzieISLAM]

Jesus peace be upon him, never established Christianity, he himself was a Jew. He did not even saw the Bible, the bible did not excisted untill 70~150 years after Christ.

the Bible was put together by the councille of Nicae.

[SeptemberCatholic18]

I respect your opinion on this matter.

You are correct that Jesus, peace and glory be upon him, never saw the Bible. You are correct that it did not come into existence until around 70-150 years after Christ's life on earth. However, you are incorrect in asserting that the Bible was put together by Nicaea.

Actually, the Bible was written by the disciples of Christ, peace and glory be upon him. Their writings were later composed by the Council of Hippo in 393 AD.

I believe God inspired them.

[SeptemberCatholic18]

Lastly, it is my firm belief that Jesus Christ, peace and glory be upon him, founded the seed that would later sprout into the Catholic Church.

I understand that you do not believe this, and I respect that. May the Lord, who is the most high, bless you in your studies and may you follow his divine will and decree as he guides you with his tender, loving hand.

[ozzieISLAM]

SeptemberCatholic18, I have a video about some gospels who are left out of the bible by the councille of nicae because it was against the plan and ideas of the Church. I as a muslim have 2 questions for you.

1. Why, if Jesus is God or the Son of God, or a part of God, did he came in a race. Because that will mean God choose that race over the others.

2.

[ozzieISLAM]

2. Who do you refer the errors and contradictions in the bible to? to God? These contradictions aren't translition faults, these verses are telling the opposite of each other.

[SeptemberCatholic18]

Firstly, I want to state that the councils did not leave gospels out of the Bible for selfish reasons. They carefully analyzed each work and concluded whether or not is was really written by the person it said it was written by. The ones left out were forgeries or erroneous.

1. God did not choose a race over any other. Jesus came for the salvation of all men. He founded the Catholic (universal) Church.

2. I don't agree with that premise. There are no contradictions in the Bible's teachings.

[doughboy20211]

after seeing these videos, i can see why there are so many satanics and non-believers in the world now. the catholic church is a currupted cult, mocking god of all his love and mercy! shamefull bastards, inflicting pain on others to abandon the bible and follow their currupt path.

[Xigano1]

I find it interesting, that this video is promoted by 'IslamStudios',

while Sharia cords today are hardly any better than the Inquisition.

[HillStrattan]

would you say yes? no no no no.. x)! LOVE IT!

[omniexistus]

The Inquisition (What a show)!

The Inquisition (Here we go)!

We know youre wishing that we'd go away!

But the inquisitions here and its here to stay!

[naughtypagan72]

Hey Torquemada, whatdaya say?

[geobenne]

I just got back from the autodefe.

The autodefe... what's the autodefe?

What'cha aught not a done, but'cha did anyway!

[sunuvman]

...if "God" made man out of His own image, then He is truly a monster. If I could shoot my gun into the sky in an attempt to assassinate that tyrant, I would... but knowing "God's Will", the bullet would most likely fall down on top of some innocent child's head. "God" is man's greatest folly...

[comazzi07]

Do the Catholics remember that one cammandment????umm.....oh yeah, "Thou shall not kill"......unless you speak against the Catholic church. Be it known that most Catholics will burn in hell for rejecting Jesus as the true Christ and placing the pope in front of him. Oh yeah, most Catholics dont know their bible from a Harry Potter book. Most dont even know who is Pope( or antichrist) right now.......wait for the sunday law....repent and seek Christ. Follow the original 10 commandments...

[walkingoneggshells]

I am not utterly convinced of this, but I do suspect Obama is the antichrist.

[Shirotaka92]

Lol.

[KREENA01511]

what about the reformation????

protestant scum - catholics are true christians.......

[Metania01]

Jeffrey Domer The serial killer would be best friends with the pope.

[Metania01]

Pope is an invention of Satan.

Jesus Christ said: Whomever wants follow me.

[WilliamBonneau]

Jesus had profits or people he was closer with (John, Paul, Peter ect.) so the Pope isn't necessarily of evil.

[fluxtron101]

THIS IS CATHOLICISM!

[Metania01]

ROMAN CATHOLICISM

[laterzkaterz]

pope's invented the torture devices???

bloody hell how ridiculous!

HUMAN RIGHTS you lunatics. keep your delusions to yourself

[qifaw]

It's very easy to find excuses (for your own satisfaction) even if there are many proofs to abolish your claims that Jesus is GOD! but you will always stick to your stupid & baseless belief (which most people find it ridicolous&funny)until the day you die! It's true when God Himself said in the Quran " These people have eyes but they are blind; they have ears but they are deaf;they have brains but they can't think!!"

[qifaw]

Bonjournuit is an ignorant christian who is full of hatred towards Muhammad&other prophets' teaching. It is useless to argue with ignorant people bcoz they will never accept the truth even if it is very clear proof that Jesus is not GOD/son of GOD.

[BaronessMarina]

A Protestant and Enlightenment Myth

[Charliecomet82]

Anyone for some cartoons?

[anythingnew]

nasty catholics. don't know why people still follow that. dumb.

[BonjourNuit]

It is the end of the ages for the gentiles who oppressed others through the Roman Catholic church.But Jesus who is the Father,Son and Holy Spiri remains with all people on earth and is touching them by His unconditional love,as He is preparing our world for his return.

[HerrGeneralVonBraun]

Jesus knew fully well many will be slaughtered and tortured in his name and for "His" cause

even still, he didn't give a simple rats ass about the following generations to be murdered

if he did, he would have shut his mouth, committed suicide and go somewhere else

according to the bible and jesus - all the heretics are in hell

and those that whom are purified by the eternal fires are ready to storm the gates

are you ready for revenge?

[BonjourNuit6]

Herr Jesus is God who is with all people on earth,when his apostles faced their persecuted deaths,he was with them like Daniel in the Fire,he protected them from pain because God is not evil

But the Church was the Roman Empire or the Christians' oppressors who took Christianity and molded it to suit itself,slaughtering any Christian who disagreed.

It is these men who were the true heretics not those who innocently died

[HerrGeneralVonBraun]

I would like to hope so.

But I can't find any hope in the Bible old testament or new testament.

[BonjourNuit9]

HerrGeneralVonBraun the Bible was quickly translated first into German then into other languages

Think about it,the Bible was in Hebrew,Greek and Latin when Jesus spoke Aramaic then the Bible was translated quickly into other languages which makes the Bible difficult to understand

In the Bible it teaches God is a loving,involved God who is with you always only to love and to guide you,proof you have both intuition and dreams and these 2 spiritual senses is how God communicates with you

[BonjourNuit9]

HerrGeneralVonBraun Jesus is God who is with all people on earth and guides all people through Intuition even if they don't believe in Him and if people listened to their intuition they would have the answers to their questions,the solutions to their problems,and they would experience no injuries

Jesus offered those who believed in Him to be God which came as a man,died on the cross and rose from the dead to experience His loving Realism which brings true love and Joy to live in this lifetime

[BonjourNuit9]

Herr the Bible is like an old treasure map,that points to where the true everlasting treasure is

you might not find hope in the Bible because it is too hard to quickly comprehend but the Bible points to the fact God knows you,God is with you and God loves you despite knowing you in detail!

Through Intuition,Mediation on Silence,through talking to God you can perceive His loving presence but you have to request awareness of Him(Jesus)and slowly he will reveal His loving presence to you

[Catalina1956]

Just do not forget that prophesies of beloved DANIEL...there shall arrive a FALSE PROPHET first, who shall stand in the TEMPLE and call himself GOD! We shall know him by his fruits. Blessed be the Lord God Creator of the universe who created ALL MANKIND!

[BonjourNuit9]

Catalina1956 The False prophet is Muhammad because Revelations mentions him as well

that he along with Satan shall be thrown into the lake of fire for Islam is oppressive.

Christianity only came into existence after Jesus claimed he was/is God,after he was sent to the cross and after he rose from the dead to prove it,then Jesus continued with his teachings

which was/is that He is the Trinity who is with all people on earth to guide all people evident by the fact all have intuition and dreams

[basiobasha]

Can you prove that?. Jesus (peace upon him) did not say that all the prophet after him are false. He said they will be false prophets but not all of them.

[BonjourNuit14]

No prophet was to come after Jesus,he was the final one who came,and the Jews rejected him,their Messiah,afterwhich they were expelled from Israel for nearly 2000 years.

God was never going to send them Muhammad who didn't know their languages,yet who claimed their Bible was falsified when the Dead Sea Scrolls predating Muh by 500 years,proves the Bible is the same now as then

False prophets prove it by their own mouths and Muh was a false prophet

[BonjourNuit]

All the wrongs priests have committed,they will be held accountable even if they lived long ago in the past.

Don't throw out the baby because the water is dirty,because Jesus never taught violence,hatred or oppression.

Had the church taught the true teachings of Jesus,there never would have been the Inquisition.

[TheNextTurn]

The Bible was created by the same poeple, there for the bible is untrustworthy.

[BonjourNuit]

TheNextTurn there is still truth in the bible.

God is real,God is compassionate and God promised for all eternity to be with all people on earth.

That is all God ever wanted people to know so that they themselves could experience His realism and His love and His own guidance.

The bible only points to that fact.

[TheNextTurn]

I agree.. but what scripture was left out?

What was added just for the Catholic Church's sake?

No one will ever agree.

The RCC started suppressing and finally banning all other religions 2 years after they become the official religion of Rome.

They didnt understand Jesus and they defined the Bible, how can I trust it?

[BonjourNuit]

TheNextTurn: I agree with you but the most important information was kept in the bible concerning God's own presence,the Holy Spirit who is with all people on earth guiding them through Intuition and even through dreams.

[Catalina1956]

This is so true..and thank you for writing this.

[BonjourNuit]

TheNextTurn: a good guideline to determine what is from God and what is from man is God is always compassionate,merciful and forgiving.True scriptures reflect that truth but what is from man is oppression.

Man always desired fame,fortune and power.

Paul's teachings about women is not Jesus's teachings therefore Paul's teaching does not come from God.

For God made humankind in his image and women are just as valuable and important as man.

[TheNextTurn]

I think we are having this conversaion on another thread.

[BonjourNuit]

What a nerve Muslims have to speak about the Church's Inquistion as if it was the Christian religion itself.When it is always and only Man who seeks to oppress other people.This history is not a reflection of Christianity but of man himself.

Islam poses the greatest danger to our world today.Islam had just the same horrors as it spread throughout the world,the difference is no one could record it.Islam's atrocities prevail today in Sudan,in Etheiopia,in Algeria,and elsewhere in Africa.

[Cindywong2000]

It is true. Inquisition has nothing to do with catolicism.

And you are right - Islam's atrocities are much worse than what we see here.

So all you islam bastards shut the hell up or wr begin to set crusades again.... bastards!

[bergloewe78]

Atrocity remains atrocity. If done by Christians, Hindus, Moslems, Jews, Atheists, believers in the Old Celtic Gods, in Shiva, in Manitou, the Spagetti-Monster or which God(s) there are doesn't interest the victims, I'd guess... these religio-fascist statements begin to annoy me. By the way: The crucades were the other thing one is ashame to even think about being a Protestant (for God's sake) Christian.

[bergloewe78]

What a nerve does an obviously Christian have to speak about the danger of Muslims as if this danger was the belief of these Muslims itself. When it is always and only Man who seeks to oppress other people. These events are not a reflection of Islam but of man himself.

Ignorance poses the greatest danger to our world today. Every comunitiy is vulnerable to all these horrors and must be sensitive against prejudices and fast judgement against people who behave and believe different ;-).

[hlkolaya]

75 popes in a row that tortured and killed people? that's just disgusting... the catholic church was brutal and is still pretty messed up to this day.. i think it's the sexual frustration.

[governator86]

Thats Freudian non-sense, every evil man does not have a sexual dysfunction.

[hlkolaya]

governator, i didn't say that every evil man did. the last part was a psudo joke because of the celibacy thing.

[governator86]

I see, its just that most people genuinely believe whatever Freud, a cocaine addict theorized and it gets annoying every single misdeed can be justified because of some ridiculous sexual dysfunction.

[hlkolaya]

governator, while i am not a freudian, i do believe that some problems can and do have their roots in sexual dysfunction. as for catholic priests and popes, i honestly can't say what a lifetime of abstinence did to them, although i can't imagine it would have a positive effect

[governator86]

Most of the priests that go mad and start raping little boys were "lifers" if you will, the normal ones tend to sign up a little later in life, so perhaps you are right.

I too think Catholic priests should be allowed to marry.

[odacir64]

go ahead and read the bible and you shall see who is the pope. read revelastion, then paralel its history with world history, you will see it fits perfectly, pointing the finger at the papacy, as the antichrist.

[hlkolaya]

odacir, i've read the bible and i think you're crazy.

[odacir64]

depend what part of the bible you read.

read daniel and revelation, make notes, then check, but if you wold like I can send you 2 discs explaining all that, free of charge, all I want is your opinion after you've watched, each one is about hour and a half,

if interested let me know,

[odacir64]

I mean, at least take a loo at what made me believe that that is so.

[hlkolaya]

odacir, i've read the whole bible.. believe it or not, like many kids in American i grew up christian. i went to church every Sunday morning and night and every Wednesday not to mention every church function. I will tell you that there is absolutely nothing that will make me christian again short of god himself tapping me on the shoulder, but i'm always willing to watch new things and learn new things about the opinions of others.

[gearzone2611]

google: priests molesting child lol sued for 660million