Scooter Roller weight changing With OUT IMPACT WRENCH Part 2

[padly88]

hi, i just want to ask if this is risky or hard to do, because i want to put lighter weights in my new scooter, but i dont have mechanical skills with scooters, to today i only put speakers in my scooter and bypass rpm limiter, but i was working with mopeds for about 3-4 years... can any1 anwser me?

[drescaosad]

THANKS MENNNNNNN YEAHHHHHHHH...................­.......CHAOS 2011 NO FUCKING RULES

[Elm014395]

what ped is this and cc? thanks :)

[cam615615]

2:04 three arms?

[89KxRider]

hey, i have a sym mio 50, its been destricted, an everything else is stock, what weight roller s u think? and what elso part wise do i need. if i change the weights, does that affect any other parts

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[NobbysPcHelp]

thank you.

[brendanbbaker]

I see that your a 3 armed mechanic :)

[avdrums09]

man how did you learn to do this shit

[avdrums09]

hey man could you tell me what i can do to make my MCI Riviera faster it does 70-75kph stock but i want to make it faster

[chobies]

your music selection from pt1 and 2 is just as gay as scooter tuning.

[MrSwnk]

The plate on the back of the variator that is bolted on actually is a form of restriction, you can remove it and the belt will travel further up the variator giving you more speed! :)

[TheBike93]

Thank You, i have a peugeot speedfight 2 R-CUP 2008 model and i need new rollers to make the top end speed faster it sets off really fast i just want some the speed can go a little faster what size and g would you recomend i dont want the scooter setting off faster as its fine "if i change the rollers would it go slow setting off?"

[psylenc]

I figured out that was the problem but now I hhave another question, after i replaced the belt along with some other components it doesnt go nearly as fast as it use to. i looked at the roller weights and two of them had been worn down a little, will that effect my speed? like the other 4 span fine but those tho didnt spin

[psylenc]

I have a question, we have alike scooters, I just bought mine though from a friend without a belt. I bought the belt but when i put it on it doesnt start. i see that where your sprocket and variator are there is a space for the belt between them.. mine are close together and i thought the belt sat ontop of them both instead of in between.. I think its broken because all the vids ive seen like this the belts fit in there. help?!

[trx1961]

mine the same as yours. just dif name thats all

[trx1961]

mine MANCO HORNET is squeeling in the front! glad i found this vid! now if was a vid on changing CRANK BEARRINGS!!

[bubblesjs]

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuude! whats with the song choice?!?!?!

[447za]

no its not necessary i didnt use I just putted it really tight.

[Jera1337]

nice vid =) btw is it necessary to use locktight when your getting the stuff together again?

[onewheelteam2010]

mate that case is a restrictor it slows down ur ped

[8282andy]

hi people, any DIY tips for tuning a honda sgx 50 (sky) `01 model. totaly standard at the minute and hits about 42mph

[DJmontiie]

how do i find out or see what size and weight my rollers are?

i have a chinnese bike, Wangye WY50QT 16 (:

[447za]

@DJmontiie measure your rollers or look repair manual

[TheMxSnowboarder]

@447za i have that bike too message me! how fast does urs go?? what have you done to it too???

[DJmontiie]

how do i know what size and weight my rollers are?

i have a chinnese bike, Wangye WY50QT 16 (:

[1993danny2007]

hi, i have a speedfight 2 "51 plate" with a leo vince exhaust and im puttin on a new cone shape air filter soon, as the jet will need changing wht size would you recomend i was told a 0.72mm?

also what rollers would you recomend for this set up to work best? i fort maybe 4.4 gram, could you help me out.

thanks

[447za]

I think those 4.4 gram would be good but I bought 3 different weight of rollers and I just tested what is best for me.

And Main Jet would be smthing about 0.70 - 0.85mm

[tormentor74]

thanks

[martinovleeds2010]

Hi mate, good video, i am wanting to know if theres any way possible to remove the variator on a baotian bt50qt9 without a special tool as im wanting to de-restrict it...if you could let me know it would be greatly appreciated...thanks...martin

[447za]

Im not sure what are you meaning there, but look part 1 if that helps

[lifeboatman3]

Ive got a Piaggio NRG and its bogging down sometimes. When its cold it runns fine but as soon as I get up speed it boggs. Ive been told its the vairator? do you think it is or something else. Ive got a sports exhaust as well but nothing else?

[447za]

Check you sparkplug !!! I had same problem once. I bought new sparkplug and then it worked fine.

[lifeboatman3]

Thanks for that. Ive ordered a new iridium plug but I have changed it with a new one before and it wasnt any better so I dont know if it will work???

[lovesRAYBANS]

Do the rollers go in a specific way or does it not matter how they sit??

[447za]

Jep rollers go in a specific way, only that rollers are right size and then you can test that rollers rolls in cup.

[TheRaceRepSpec]

did u remove the vairator washer to get better speed ?

[447za]

the back plate i removed What was in 3 bolts

[lebaojazzdrumset]

What scooter do you havE?

[447za]

Quinqi - 05 chinese scooter

(Zoner) ( baotian)

[cturner93]

you nearlly forgot to put the belt back on!!

[447za]

SO what

[PhilipHo92]

why did you but back the backplate? you will get higher topspeed without it ;)

[447za]

i know

[01Gary]

Do you need to re-glue the gear wheel nut back on once u have taken it off?

[447za]

I didnt re-glued it but I tighten it really tight, but you can use "locktight nut glue" its blue or red.

[01Gary]

ok thx

[m1rchegfn]

is malossi or polini rollers better than yours or you are just paying the name if you buy malossi or polini ?

[447za]

I dont think so that is that much better but malossi or polini are maybe little bit better quality but I would not buy polini or malossi because its mooore expensive than mine.

[m1rchegfn]

thats what im trying 2 say

[447za]

yep, I can say that you can buy other than malossi or polini and you can still sleep well :D without bad dreaming :D you are just paying name...

[m1rchegfn]

yep... :)5/5 btw

[447za]

thanks m8 :-D

[daGodOnCod]

hi good vid, ive got a kymco agility 50cc 4 stroke it's been derestricted and now hits 45 mph (70 kmh) and just seems to hit another restrictor because even down hills it stays at that speed i would love to know what is stopping it cause it can go faster 50-55 maybe?? whats up with it?? please help!!

[tomfairweather1]

its a shit bike. thats whats up with it..

[hlolh7212]

My best mates scooter is a bit slow and boggy. Some guys talk about the rollers going. He's got a speedfight 2. Is heavier or lighter rollers better? Do you get top speed as well as acceleration? He is looking at getting a sports exhaust, new drive belt and rollers to make it a bit quicker, will this work? Great video, though. Thanks.

[447za]

It depends about in scooter type in sometimes u get more top speed as well better acceleration but main thing is better acceleration.

Driving belt that doesnt help about acceleration at all that helps only that belt doesnt brake as fast as normal. And sport exhaust is 50/50. I would change roller weights and clutch springs and compression spring. Look my other video about clutch spring and compression spring changing.

And about 5.1 gr is good weight about roller weights...

[MrBomberHarris]

That plate that is bolted on to the back of the variator is a restriction device. It stops the front pulley closing all the way together which restricts the top speed. You need to take it off. Also get an 82cc kit with hot camshaft and it will fly (well for a 4 stroke anyway)

[lilletizz]

Also take out the variator (Big washer)

[frazpk84]

I will send you its pic may be than you figure it out .

[447za]

Ok I`ll wait for it

[MrBomberHarris]

You can also see that it is still restricted because the wear pattern on the inside of the variator. The part that is darker is where the belt runs up to. If it closed all the way together the wear marks would be all the way the the edge of the pulley.  YOu have another 10 to 15mph left in it.

[frazpk84]

yet another question. upper side of engine head there is a pipe attached to an opening, where should the other end of this pipe goes. should it remains un-attached, if not where to attach it. Thanks

[447za]

What u mean ? I m not sure what u mean

[frazpk84]

I got Boatian BT49-QT-9, may be you got a different model, in my scooter model a metal pipe comes out of engine's head which is then attached to a rubber pipe, never mind I think your model don't have this pipe.

[447za]

Do you mean exhaust pipe and there goes 1 rubber pipe. I had same thing if u mean that, I took it off. But if u wanna know where it goes it goes airfilter pipe. under the seat.

[frazpk84]

Friend thank you so much for your help. actually i am having trouble starting it in the morning if parked out of gerage and when ever it's bit cold, so checking all starting related parts. thanks again

[447za]

Yep if u charge battery and try kick start it should start because scooter needs full charged battery.

[frazpk84]

Also did a weak  or uncharged battery can be linked to longer time in starting the engine even if i am using Kick starter?thanks

[jakethepeg1066]

how often do you need to change these in miles please nice vid 5 stars

[447za]

Dont rlly know but I have been same roller weights in 3 years :D Still going good

[frazpk84]

Hi, can you please tell me about rollers, first thing whats different between the original rollers and the new rollers, i mean i got boatian 50cc with original rollers, what roller should i buy?. second can you tell me how can i change back wheel bearings and where it is located. thanks

[447za]

Orginal rollers are about 8 gr so they are heavier than new ones i recomended 5 gr or 5.1 gr rollers. U get more acceleration.

What you mean back wheel bearings ?? You need to change your back wheel bearing ??

you need to take exhaust pipe off and then you can take back wheel nut open and take wheel off then you can see bearings....

[frazpk84]

thanks very much for your help, one more question, how can i get more speed?(it's allready un-ristricted and can run up to 40 miles down hill and max 30 miles up hill), did the change of rollers will also improve speed apart from more acceleration?.

Thanks.

[447za]

Try powerfitler (air filter), and bigger main jet I have 90 main jet and powerfilter and leave that metal plate off in variator so you can get about 10 - 15 km/h more speed and with powerfilter and bigger main jet (90) My scooter goes 63 km/h...

[frazpk84]

Friend I need some more help, first how can i check that if my electric Choke is working properly or not?(i mean if i took it out of cab and turn the ignition switch on it should pull or push the needle?), secondly there is a screw on right side of carb(the side on which choke is located) i lost it's real position, can u tell me if i tight it inside the carb to maximum then how many (full 180 degree) turns will i need to un-tight it to get to proper position.

[447za]

when u have tight it inside all then open it about 2,5 rounds (900 degree)

[447za]

I dont have a clue how u could test it out but needle should go up, maybe u can test it that u remove that electric choke in carb and then put power on and try start and look all the time that EC needle. I would try that.

[frazpk84]

sorry i don't under stand the 900 dergee, please tell me simply how many round(turns) ? thaks

[447za]

2,5 rounds so simple

[iiocke]

great vid. so this is what i have to do to get a higher top speed? higher gear ratio?

[447za]

When u take off that metal plate what i opened, 3 bolts what i opened leave that metal plate off, more speed, and after u have changed roller weights u will get more speed, acceleration...

[smirfs2k05]

Time for some ratcheting wrenches ; )

[maxymark]

thanks for tutorial mate :) it's very detailed :)

[seantobin1]

where did you buy the rollers and how much faster will it make the scooter go

[rane6666]

sillo tosiaa ko ton 17 pultin aukasin ni päräytin vaa 1s ajan pulttipyssyl ni samantien lähti :D kaveri lainasi moista aparaattia.. laitettiin muute ensin tuos operaatios tuoho etuvarin levyn väliin tuleva tuo putken pätkä 2:58 kohdassa tätä filmiä jotenkin huonosti tai ei ihan perälle asti.. niin sit käynnistettiin ja kokkeilin ajaa ni helevetin moine rusahdus kuulu :D niinku ois saatana joku vääntyny iha paskaksi.. mutta sen ku laitto 2mm syvemmälle ni pelitti : S :D

[447za]

Nii ja sitä putkea voi sanoa holkiksi ;P

[rane6666]

laitappa niiden jousienki asennuksesta video :P se vois olla kiintoisa.. =) miettiin tuosa muuten et mulla saattaa olla vakio rullatki kevyemmät kun sen sun sanomat n. 8g että jos ne on vaik 6-7g ni sitte tuo vaikutus ei oo niin suuri ku laitoin ne 5,5g rullat :O vois laittaa melkei takasi ne vakiot .. ni kulukis enemmä mut hei joo pistä videoo niistä jousien säätämisestä

[447za]

Kai sitä jonku pikku videon vois väsää. :D

[rane6666]

onko nuo 16x13 sitte iha varmasti just oikeat.. ja voisko sillä olla kovaki merkitys onko reikä keskel rullaa vai ei.. niis alkuperäsiski oli.. ja mulla tosiaa huiput laski vähä.. ku ennen meni 64 gepsii ja nytte ei nii paljo.. kiihtyy se vähä paremmin ja mul ainaki piti vähä aikaa ajaa et se kiihtyvyys parani.. mistä ostit muute rullas? ja paljo kulukee nyt sulla? :O

[447za]

16x13 on JUURI OIKEA KOKO. En tiiä siitä reikä jutusta mutta kyllä normaalisti on reikä keskellä :D saattaa sulla olla sitten jotku halpis rullat. Ite ostin rullat Stormilta (Storm Motor). Mun mopo kulkee sen 50 pieniä vikoja on tällä hetkellä, ja ostin uuden painejousen ja uudet kytkin jouset odotan että tulee postiin, niin kiihtyy taas vielä paremmin. Sanon sitten miten kiihtyy ja paljo kulkee ku ne on kiinni.

[dooley09]

Don't get your panties in a wad! Jeez!

[447za]

Sorry bad day... But every1 says that.

[dooley09]

That plate on the back of the pulley is a restriction. Take it off.

[447za]

I KNOW THAT.

[rane6666]

sain asennettua rullat, nyt ottaa kiekkoja 2k enemmän, mutta ei se nyt nii rajusti kiihtyvyys noussu mitä sannnoit :OO pittääkö niiläki ajella joku sisäänajo tavallaan tai vähänaikaa et paranee se kiihtyvyys?

[447za]

Ei pidä mitään sisään ajoa.

Kyllä mulla kiihty huomattavasti tasasemmin ja nopeemmin kun vaihdoin.

[Pat5725]

Look into Dr.Pulley Brand. They are very good. I would put Sliders instead of Rollers

[rane6666]

Joo niin piänki putken paikollaan :D oli vain pakko testata miltä kuulostaapi. jaajaa no onha siinä sitte eroa se ~3g alkuperäsiin.. juuh vaikuttaako skoden toimintaan sitte mitenkää jos mulla nyt kuumuu ne ehkä sitte enemmä? Vaikka kun on ajettu enemmän putkeen, niin silloin mitää vaikutusta? :O

[447za]

no en osaa sanoa. Jos on sanottu että käy ni luulis sitten käyvän myös

[rane6666]

Joo no 16x13 mulla ne silti on ja ainaki kyssyin et passaako ne kiinalaiseen, ni pitäis kyl.. :O Mulla ne on sillee kokonaan ummessa että keskellä on pieni paino ja sitte reunat sitä vihreää muoviako senyt on. ennoo viel avannu.

[447za]

Joo, no kyllä niiten pitäis käydä se vaan että ne missä on reikä eikä ummessa jäähtyy nopeammin. kun variaattorihan lämpenee kitkan voimasta. mut kyl niitten pitäsi toimia myös

[rane6666]

Nuo rullat on muute erinäköset ku mulla.. mulla niissä ei oo mitään reikää siinä keskel, tai jotenki iha erinäköset.. onko niissä mittää eroja sitte : d

[447za]

Kyllä niissä sitten jotai eroa on jos ei oo reikää keskellä. koko on 16 x 13 mm

[macker1400]

cooooooooollllll vid cheers

[london1817]

After you changed the rollers did the upgrade help with the speed take off a whole lot?

I have heard a little about this And I am interested. Thanks for the great video!!!! 5 stars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DDr28]

i mean 5.1

[447za]

yeah 5.1

[DDr28]

why did u chose a 7g ???

[TheTbandanShow]

i couldn't do it like that with the screwdriver but i brought a variator locking tool thing and changed them no problem, i do have a question tho, its not actually to do with roller but still

when i took off my stock pipe to replace it with a sports pipe there is a metal tube thing at the back of the stock exhaust were a rubber pipe was plugged in. there isnt anywere for this to go on the new exhaust and i was wondering what to do with it.

some people say plug it, some people say just leave it?

[447za]

Yeah you can take it off that just recycle exhaust. Dont worry about it.

[TheTbandanShow]

do yuo rekon i should plug/seal or what ever to stop anything going through or just leave it how it is open, i mean, i dosnt suck, or blow and dosent get wet or anything i just wonderd what to do, i know tis proberly sounds stupid but it wont damage the engin at all if i leave it open?

[447za]

You can took it all of just look where it goes and take it off. Actually that rubber pipe just attenuate your engine power. If you take it off you engine will be more happy :D

[TheTbandanShow]

were i have to put the screwdriver and bolt is just not behind my bodywork so the handle of the screwdriver is behind everything and its really quite fiddly trying to get it there, and it keep comin off, i guess ill try again with a hammer, or mabey an electric drill with a sockit on the end, you reckon that will help?

[447za]

If you have friends you can ask if somebody could help you to hold screwdriver. Like I did. But nowadays I am pro baotian enginer so no help needed no more ;) you can try to use e.drill but hammer is the best.

[TheTbandanShow]

i took everything apart today and it all went fine until i had to get that nut off, i just couldn't do it, i tried what u did with the screwdriver but it just would not come, i think ill just have to use an impact wrench but i dont have one, guess ill buy one, plus i think you have to tighten the back up to the correct torque and use locktite on the nut or sumit like that becuast if not i might come off, thats what i heard

[447za]

Thats bullshit. Everyone says that but it doesnt matter that much. It doesnt fall anywhere belive me, but you can use locktite but you dont need torque wrench. my nut was also ****** tight but you can hit your wrench with hammer that helped me alot.

[TheTbandanShow]

you no when you put it all back on, dont u have to no what torque setting/how tight to do it up or whatever, i should be doing my rollers in about an hour, i was just wondering because i thought u need to have a torque rench?

and what can hapen if you over tighten it, is a simple case of loosen it agian lol or can it damage the bike?

[447za]

It doesnt damage your bike if you not over tighten it. And just put it tight, when you are tightening your variator nut when it doesnt tighten anymore then its good. And it doesnt loosen easily.

You dont need torque wrench, but if you have torque wrench you can use it and look your scooter manual, my manual says (The nut of the driving plate 3,8kg/m 28ft lbs)

Comment if you have more questions...

[TheTbandanShow]

oh right, k thank you, i should either be doin em ina bit, or tomorrow morning, not sure, but thanks alot you and your video helped alot, thanks ;)

[447za]

No Problem

[psyfertech]

9 gram i hear are the most popular

[447za]

I dont know but its too heavy.

[psyfertech]

yeah, well i mean i have a dune buggy were puttint them in so it should be good

[447za]

ou ok

[paoktshsostokokalo]

man i love you ^_^

[447za]

Hope you like it and that was helpful !

Thx

[lzr32]

no shit in der uv jus dropped dem all ova da florrrrrrrrr

[447za]

Ou shit ! Thats horrible but it work still :D

And its ground not floor :D

But good video still :D heeheh

[alebace]

how is maximum speed with new rollers is more or little (sorry i don't understend english a lot

[Killfis]

The lighter the rollers are the better the acceleration is. Any1 can work out the rest.

[alebace]

se vitka strafot probav

[447za]

Same as english

I dont understand

[ChazEverest]

the plate you put on back on the back of the variator is a restrictor. It restricts the full movement of the v belt. Leave it off you will gain 10 - 15mph. You can see when you look at the face of the pulley, the black line is how far up the pulley the belt goes with the plate on. Take it off and the belt will go to about 2mm from the edge of the pulley. Much more speed.

[447za]

Yah I know but in the video I forgot to leave that. But now I had taken that away ;D

[steveo405]

How many grams where the weights?

[447za]

5,1 gr.

[steveo405]

Great video. I am going to do this to mine.

[447za]

If u want it goes FASTER too so dont put the plate in there which is with 3 bolts back there.

Just a *wink*

[Nyholm92]

Nice!

[shotgunfetus]

Great videos!! thanks

[447za]

Hope those videos was helpfully