"Attacks inside Iraq by AQI, have dropped sharply, with 28 incidents and 125 civilian deaths reported in the first six months of this year, compared with 300 bombings and more than 1,500 deaths in 2007."
It was the awakening, BY ITSELF. The surge had nothing to do with it. Glenn Beck is a fascist little prick. Iraq would have gotten better by itself, possibly even SOONER. A drop in violence and you assholes proclaim victory.
I am glad things have improved SOMEWHAT in Iraq. It would have happened ANYWAY. The real story is much more complicated and this simpleton has no appreciation for that. Never forget NEOCONS got us into that mess to begin with. They made us all wait it out with no plan.
No it wasn't the awakening by itself, it was the military surge that AND the political pressure that forced Iraq to stand up and fight, we cleaned out 13 Al Qaeda strongholds and defeated some of the strongest cells in Anbar and other locations, this allowed the Iraqies to gain strength and take control. Stop spinning the situation and belitting the accomplishments of our troops.
Stop claiming credit for something the Iraqis accomplished DESPITE the occupation. With 1,000,000 dead and 4,500,000 refugess, it is clear we didn't stop the civil war, we merely slowed it down.
Who is to say this all wouldn't have happened much sooner with BUDGETS and TIMETABLES. After all those fuckups now claiming credit for victory after waiting it out is disingenuous. The Iraqis deserve most of the credit. 50% of them still think it's OK to shoot at us.
You must not know anyone who serves in the military or you're just an idiot. The awakening occurred because of our continued presence and commitment to stay. As the tribes saw the US demonstrate our good intentions with action they realized that we were trying to do good vs. AQI that wanted to tear the country apart. This a world governed by the aggressive use of force. This is an undeniable truth of life.
The Anbar Awakening occurred BEFORE the surge. Had Al Qaida been more considerate for the citizens there they wouldn't have become enemies. In the conservative mind the world is governed by the aggressive use of force. There is much more to it than that, and to resort to force as the ONLY way of governing is the worst possible policy. Force is the WORST of all persuasive tools. Look that up with STALINISM.
Yes. Violence is the last resort. However, when evil is on the move, it generally doesn't give a damn about diplomacy. When an armed intruder enters your home and tries to kill you, your wife and kids, what's your plan? Talk him out of it or grow a pair and fight? How many members of your family get killed before you realize he's serious about doing you harm? You're not a violent person, but sometimes good people need to stand up and fight.
If there is evil on the move why is it you never suspect your own government? How many kids are you going to let them send off to die in a useless war before YOU stand up and fight?
There is evidence to CONCLUDE that Bush LIED about WMD, Al Qaida, and Nuclear Weapons, that is, had full knowledge beforehand that his assertions were false, and that he committed the forces to invade Iraq anyways. It was in his plans BEFORE 911.
@j0hnwi11iams Williams you are probably the stupidest person in the world despite any 'education' in 'engineering' you may have gained in your life. I suspect you went to berkley considering some of the unbelieveably stupid things you say. 'Had alqeuda been more considerate' (?!?!?!) What an incredibly daft thing to say, alqeuadas whole mode of operation has been about tyranny, it is entirely against their grain to be considering of anything or anyone. If this were WW2 I have little doubt y
@j0hnwi11iams I have little doubt that you would be a nazi sympathiser at the very least, and if nothing probably a nazi collaborator. I almost positive you would 'appreciate that fine german engineered war machine' that shitler had constructed all while pissing and moaning about how bad the germans had it during that time. You are a degenerate and are nothing more than proof that there is a G-d because without one an idiot like you would simply not exist.
@j0hnwi11iams I would feel sorry for your children but if they had any brains they probably hate your miserable degenerate guts. However I wouldnt be surprised if your sick mind had already infected them and made them worse than you already are. If that is somehow even possible.
Of course anyone voting for Obama will no doubt say this is all a fabrication and propaganda. But its not. Many people who have family serving in Iraq can verify this, and HAVE. But of course the left seems to be making the same mistake it has for the last 30 years, using baseless character attacks and then running scared when they are shown conclusive proof in the opposite direction. Sarah Palin's experience for one.
commandox20 Miss second place Alaska have no national security experience at All. Now Enough!!! of this stupidity. We shouldn't have been there in the First Place. Wake Up!!!!
Palin has more experience! Obama voted Present 90% of the time in the Senate. This is ridiculous! You have no concrete counter-arguements.
Bill Clinton didn't have foreign policy experience when he ran. Nobody questioned him when he ran for President in that regard.
Besides, Alaska garners more foreign policy experience than any other state in the union. Grow up and stop being a fool. Obama has EVEN LESS foreign policy experience than Palin as a senator, and he's running for PRESIDENT.
I read both of his books and thats not where he says he did them anyway. He brought it up during an interview where he said, bluntly Yes, I did experiment. He was asked among many of the democratic candidates. You're spreading lies and half truths. Stop it, focus on the issues. If you want to launch an attack I can launch an attack too. Don't focus on Glenn Beck, focus on what he is saying and the evidence he is presenting, then look at other sources. Like Beck or not, what he said is TRUE.
In his own words, he did drugs "enthusiastically". I suppose it if was only pot that's no big deal. Pot just makes you stupid while crack makes you psychotic.
chattingcat stop chatting and understand what you chatting about. We shouldn't when to Iraq in the First place. They didn't have nothing to do with 9/11 attacks. so ENOUGH!!! OF STUPIDITY.
The "we should never have gone" crowd seem to forget that everyone how had a clue said we should including nearly everyone in the Democratic party, many world leaders who knew Saddam was funding terrorism, etc. Because he was screwing around with the nuclear inspectors, it appeared he was hiding what everyone believed he had. After years of idle threats, President Bush was the first one with the will to do more then talk.
But he had to LIE to do it. What ever excuses he gave after the fact, that was NOT the case presented to the American People. I don't happen to think ANY of those reasons were good enough. The results speak for themselves.
Yes. The results...a baby democracy and a beachhead of freedom right between Syria & Iran. 28 MILLION people now have the opportunity to govern themselves instead of being controlled by a brutal dictator. Saddam no longer financing terrorist activities in Israel and around the world. I can see why you would be stressed. Liberals prefer to control people. Liberty and capitalism must really freak you out.
Wow- Beck's a bit of a nutcase but hits it DEAD on at 5:07...
rollotwomassey 1 year ago
Ha Ha Ha. This is hilarious. Two prominent media types cheerfully admitting that "the media sucks".
MartyMolloy 3 years ago
notice how the liberals don't say ANYTHING about this.
slipknotfan591 3 years ago
Bullshit flag flying!!!
skjelv 3 years ago
Well, if we handed over Anbar, why not hand over the rest of the country--- as the Iraqis desire?
Trekkerjon 3 years ago
WTF is going on in america ?
its keep getting crazy and more crazy
themaniacboy 3 years ago
Our troops are doing great work under horrific conditions. I'm glad someone is giving credit to our brave soldiers.
ScarlettKnights 3 years ago
"Attacks inside Iraq by AQI, have dropped sharply, with 28 incidents and 125 civilian deaths reported in the first six months of this year, compared with 300 bombings and more than 1,500 deaths in 2007."
-- By Joby Warrick and Robin Wright
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, September 6, 2008; A01
netstepinc 3 years ago
I am 10yrs old and I understand what notafraid21 said. they said stop being a follower. Meaning a flunky.
paulrevere10 3 years ago
It was the awakening, BY ITSELF. The surge had nothing to do with it. Glenn Beck is a fascist little prick. Iraq would have gotten better by itself, possibly even SOONER. A drop in violence and you assholes proclaim victory.
I am glad things have improved SOMEWHAT in Iraq. It would have happened ANYWAY. The real story is much more complicated and this simpleton has no appreciation for that. Never forget NEOCONS got us into that mess to begin with. They made us all wait it out with no plan.
j0hnwi11iams 3 years ago
No it wasn't the awakening by itself, it was the military surge that AND the political pressure that forced Iraq to stand up and fight, we cleaned out 13 Al Qaeda strongholds and defeated some of the strongest cells in Anbar and other locations, this allowed the Iraqies to gain strength and take control. Stop spinning the situation and belitting the accomplishments of our troops.
McCain/Palin 08!
commandox20 3 years ago
Stop claiming credit for something the Iraqis accomplished DESPITE the occupation. With 1,000,000 dead and 4,500,000 refugess, it is clear we didn't stop the civil war, we merely slowed it down.
Who is to say this all wouldn't have happened much sooner with BUDGETS and TIMETABLES. After all those fuckups now claiming credit for victory after waiting it out is disingenuous. The Iraqis deserve most of the credit. 50% of them still think it's OK to shoot at us.
j0hnwi11iams 3 years ago
Nice Kool-aid numbers, get them from code stink? Sounds like the stink, they don't back up their claims with evidence either.
ScarlettKnights 3 years ago
Look who's talking. The conservatives are the ANTI-SCIENCE party. Evidence just doesn't matter to you at all.
j0hnwi11iams 3 years ago
Untrue, however, junk science certainly does appeal to the left.
ScarlettKnights 3 years ago
The left follow junk science and pathetic leftists like Michael Moore.
ScarlettKnights 3 years ago
You must not know anyone who serves in the military or you're just an idiot. The awakening occurred because of our continued presence and commitment to stay. As the tribes saw the US demonstrate our good intentions with action they realized that we were trying to do good vs. AQI that wanted to tear the country apart. This a world governed by the aggressive use of force. This is an undeniable truth of life.
netstepinc 3 years ago
The Anbar Awakening occurred BEFORE the surge. Had Al Qaida been more considerate for the citizens there they wouldn't have become enemies. In the conservative mind the world is governed by the aggressive use of force. There is much more to it than that, and to resort to force as the ONLY way of governing is the worst possible policy. Force is the WORST of all persuasive tools. Look that up with STALINISM.
j0hnwi11iams 3 years ago
Yes. Violence is the last resort. However, when evil is on the move, it generally doesn't give a damn about diplomacy. When an armed intruder enters your home and tries to kill you, your wife and kids, what's your plan? Talk him out of it or grow a pair and fight? How many members of your family get killed before you realize he's serious about doing you harm? You're not a violent person, but sometimes good people need to stand up and fight.
netstepinc 3 years ago
If there is evil on the move why is it you never suspect your own government? How many kids are you going to let them send off to die in a useless war before YOU stand up and fight?
There is evidence to CONCLUDE that Bush LIED about WMD, Al Qaida, and Nuclear Weapons, that is, had full knowledge beforehand that his assertions were false, and that he committed the forces to invade Iraq anyways. It was in his plans BEFORE 911.
j0hnwi11iams 3 years ago
@j0hnwi11iams Williams you are probably the stupidest person in the world despite any 'education' in 'engineering' you may have gained in your life. I suspect you went to berkley considering some of the unbelieveably stupid things you say. 'Had alqeuda been more considerate' (?!?!?!) What an incredibly daft thing to say, alqeuadas whole mode of operation has been about tyranny, it is entirely against their grain to be considering of anything or anyone. If this were WW2 I have little doubt y
ThunderAppeal 1 year ago
@j0hnwi11iams I have little doubt that you would be a nazi sympathiser at the very least, and if nothing probably a nazi collaborator. I almost positive you would 'appreciate that fine german engineered war machine' that shitler had constructed all while pissing and moaning about how bad the germans had it during that time. You are a degenerate and are nothing more than proof that there is a G-d because without one an idiot like you would simply not exist.
ThunderAppeal 1 year ago
@j0hnwi11iams I would feel sorry for your children but if they had any brains they probably hate your miserable degenerate guts. However I wouldnt be surprised if your sick mind had already infected them and made them worse than you already are. If that is somehow even possible.
ThunderAppeal 1 year ago
Of course anyone voting for Obama will no doubt say this is all a fabrication and propaganda. But its not. Many people who have family serving in Iraq can verify this, and HAVE. But of course the left seems to be making the same mistake it has for the last 30 years, using baseless character attacks and then running scared when they are shown conclusive proof in the opposite direction. Sarah Palin's experience for one.
commandox20 3 years ago
She is more qualified to be president just in terms of the type of experience she has garnered. Obama is not.
commandox20 3 years ago
commandox20 Miss second place Alaska have no national security experience at All. Now Enough!!! of this stupidity. We shouldn't have been there in the First Place. Wake Up!!!!
notafraid21 3 years ago
Please learn to speak English. We shouldn't have been where in the first place, Alaska? You make no sense whatsoever. YOU wake up.
chattingcat 3 years ago
I am sorry you didn't understand that we shouldn't be in IRAQ in the First Place!!! come on WAKE UP!!!!
notafraid21 3 years ago
Palin has more experience! Obama voted Present 90% of the time in the Senate. This is ridiculous! You have no concrete counter-arguements.
Bill Clinton didn't have foreign policy experience when he ran. Nobody questioned him when he ran for President in that regard.
Besides, Alaska garners more foreign policy experience than any other state in the union. Grow up and stop being a fool. Obama has EVEN LESS foreign policy experience than Palin as a senator, and he's running for PRESIDENT.
commandox20 3 years ago
Glenn Beck is a crack head and one thing I won't do is listen to a crack head.
Streetsmart87 3 years ago
Then I guess you won't vote for Obama because he used to SMOKE CRACK.
commandox20 3 years ago
commandox20 no I am sorry but you got this one wrong. Read his book or google or do research. He never said he did crack like Glenn Beck said he did.
notafraid21 3 years ago
I read both of his books and thats not where he says he did them anyway. He brought it up during an interview where he said, bluntly Yes, I did experiment. He was asked among many of the democratic candidates. You're spreading lies and half truths. Stop it, focus on the issues. If you want to launch an attack I can launch an attack too. Don't focus on Glenn Beck, focus on what he is saying and the evidence he is presenting, then look at other sources. Like Beck or not, what he said is TRUE.
commandox20 3 years ago 2
In his own words, he did drugs "enthusiastically". I suppose it if was only pot that's no big deal. Pot just makes you stupid while crack makes you psychotic.
netstepinc 3 years ago
You right.
notafraid21 3 years ago
What a crock this woman who's apart of a segregated group in Alaska whom don't want to be part of America. Is that A PATRIOT do your research!!!!
notafraid21 3 years ago
That has already been proven untrue. Please stop spreading your deceitful crap.
commandox20 3 years ago
Great video. Finally truth. We need more, more, more. Thanks for posting it. Take care:)
chattingcat 3 years ago
chattingcat stop chatting and understand what you chatting about. We shouldn't when to Iraq in the First place. They didn't have nothing to do with 9/11 attacks. so ENOUGH!!! OF STUPIDITY.
notafraid21 3 years ago
notafraid21: Please re-read your own comment. First learn to speak English properly. Shall we talk stupidity? I rest my case.
chattingcat 3 years ago
chattingcat rest your cast when you stop being a FOLLOW A.
notafraid21 3 years ago
Huh? LOL, LOL, LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. I rest my case.
chattingcat 3 years ago
The "we should never have gone" crowd seem to forget that everyone how had a clue said we should including nearly everyone in the Democratic party, many world leaders who knew Saddam was funding terrorism, etc. Because he was screwing around with the nuclear inspectors, it appeared he was hiding what everyone believed he had. After years of idle threats, President Bush was the first one with the will to do more then talk.
netstepinc 3 years ago
But he had to LIE to do it. What ever excuses he gave after the fact, that was NOT the case presented to the American People. I don't happen to think ANY of those reasons were good enough. The results speak for themselves.
j0hnwi11iams 3 years ago
Yes. The results...a baby democracy and a beachhead of freedom right between Syria & Iran. 28 MILLION people now have the opportunity to govern themselves instead of being controlled by a brutal dictator. Saddam no longer financing terrorist activities in Israel and around the world. I can see why you would be stressed. Liberals prefer to control people. Liberty and capitalism must really freak you out.
netstepinc 3 years ago
hahahah it has nothing to do with democracy...what the hell you thinking boy?
avoozl07 3 years ago