This is the greatest sin of the religious world. All of the 3 religions of the bible, the book are evil and need to pay mankind back for eliminating knowledge as they have done over the years. jews, muslims and Christians are all accountable for this horrible evil they have done to mankind.
Library of Alexandria would have helped us all reach to a point of great civilization and maybe an answer to real peace.
but religion? WHO THE FUCK CREATED RELIGION AND FOR WHAT REASON? everything you see from religions is stupid and very disturbing to our life. stupid serious shit, they have nothing in their fuking heads but only a cross and a guy called Jesus who must be a maniac seeking power, until Romans saw it and killed him for that reason. then the shit was spread ed and went all over.
I have read that in 2004 they discovered multiple surviving lecture halls which has been attributed to being part of the library. Does anyone know whether this is the case or whether there are any videos of them at all?
@geneolune Trust me it is a great movie. Rachel Weisz plays Hypatia very well. Aside from some of the fictional parts of the film, it follows her life quite accurately and brings Alexandria in the 4th century AD to life in great detail and scope.
We don't know how efficiently they wrote in their scrolls it may have been better than today and no telling what they did or where on the verge of understanding. Imagine a modern version of this place or several of them. This is a lesson to be careful to biuld knowledge this is what can happen but this is more than important.
Maybe someone in the future, when casual time travel exists, will go back in time to before Carl died, pick him up, and take him on a trip to this library.
now, the same serpents are re-naming Skopje to Macedonia so they turn Alexander the Great into a Slav and not a Greek. As if that is ever possible... Yet, look at a world map... Without ever being allowed by Greece, the UN zionists have allowed it...Of course. So, depress and oppress and destroy the gifted nations of the world so the useless can rule the world... Today we are experiencing CHAOS. The exact opposite of COSMOS, huh? hahaha, damn
You ought to not to hold responsible children for the sins of their fathers. The problem with today's religions is not that they were vicious and stupid in the past, but that they still continue being a horrible force in our world.
@amorphousguy . We don't know but if you are referring to this quote of Omar
"If those books are in agreement with the Quran, we have no need of them; and if these are opposed to the Quran, destroy them".
It would seem we still have similar and many problems with those One Book Only people of various faiths. Damn it, with the ancient knowledge intact we would be busy colonizing the nearest stars by now.
@fisterB exactly... And now, the same serpents are re-naming Skopje to Macedonia so they turn Alexander the Great into a Slav and not a Greek. As if that is ever possible... Yet, look at a world map... Without ever being allowed by Greece, the UN zionists have allowed it...Of course. So, depress and oppress and destroy the gifted nations of the world so the useless can rule the world... Today we are experiencing CHAOS. The exact opposite of COSMOS, huh? hahaha, damn
i believe that alexandria library might have been hidden many secrets about the egyptian gods, maybe that is the reason why christians destroyed it, i might be wrong, but could it be a possibility?
@vichobreakthewall Well there were 3 separate accounts of who destroyed the Library. One the Romans by accident, 2. the Muslims and 3. the christians. I am putting my money on the Romans. Apparantly when Julius Caeser was chasing down Pompei in Egypt a battle broke out in the city where the library was and it got hit by either a fire ship or maybe just fire that swept through that part of the city from the fighting.
The first major potential destruction yes, by Julius Cesar in 48 B.C. during the Alexandrian War. And there were not three but 4 separate instances (that we know of). There was that, then there is a mentioning of Aurelian in the 3rd century that could have caused some damage. Then Theophilus (?) in 391, then Amr ibn al `Aas in 642 ...it it mentions that he might have done it. I am also willing to bet it was Roman :)
"the grandure of Classical Civilization and the tragedy of its distruction" ...I love Sagen and get the point, however, I also get punk rock and love a good fire and sacking every now and again. The tragedy is the 700 years of administrators who couldn't get the central government to invest in a backup file system. Long live the Cloud!
I shed a tear for the tragic loss of knowledge contained in this remarkable library. The Romans were great in many things, and I have much respect for their civilization, for the most part. But this is one thing for which they can never be forgiven.
It burns my blood to think of all that was lost when the Library was destroyed. Think of it. Back then, if you wanted to know anything, that was where you went. If we still had the Library today, we'd have all of that, and so much more on top of it. It wouldn't have taken so many centuries to rediscover all of that stuff because it would have been improved upon many times over over the years. Just imagine where we would have been by the time of the Renaissance.
@LittleAspasia creatonist 'vote bots' they give several hundred 1 star votes to prevent people from finding it and questioning the existance of there god.
How the mighty have fallen, reduced to down-voting youtube videos..
"We had to wait 200 years" because the Church kept it hidden!I find it VERY interesting how he skirts around the details about how this library was destroyed...by Christians. Berossus' History of the World was destroyed because it did not fit in with Christian dogma.Sagan was an atheist, but I guess he knew his audience so didn't include any well deserved blame on the Christians for destroying thee most important library ever to have existed.Thus began our global descent into ignorance.
Isn't it ironic? The same kinds of people that once burnt the library to the ground now are left only with the ability to run a few programs to downrate videos on YT. It's a good thing such people are now largely marginalized and impotent.
How much this Library sounds all of a sudden like our internet is shocking...
I mean, what can't you find on it but if it were destroyed we'd simply be left with scattered remains and clues in just the same way...
Maybe I over praise the knowledge available on the internet but if it isn't as good as the Library of Alexandria yet, there can be no doubt it means to be...
One Electromagnetic sun storm could wipe away all our knowledge stored on hardrives,,, 160 degrees F will make a cd-dvd useless.
The internet is as fragile as words scribbled on rice paper. It can be destroyed just a as easily as the Library of Alexandria . And worse.... it can be manipulated and history can be rewritten to suit those in power.
COLLECT BOOKS, Store them, save them, Preserve them.
I beg to differ..EveryHumanBeing! The internet is NOT FRAGILE. It is massive in its size and power. There are a Billion computers attached to the net ...hence it is truely "hardened". No single software program or person can destroy it! It will grow and survive forever!
Information online can be manipulated and revisionist history can, is and will replace historical truth and reality. And as far as no single software harming the internet...it is by no means secure, not by a stretch. it is not hardened, it is spread thin.
You might find in interesting to know that the current Library of Alexandria (Bibliotheca Alexandrina) is one of only two places in the world to have a archive of the World Wide Web.
While you may consider Aquinas (or perhaps other religiously-grounded philosophers) trite and pointless, many philosophers and ethicists today would argue that thought has reached into such far corners as it has, for the work that he and his ilk left behind. What is ever purified, without fire? Not philosophy!
Well, RexFordVII--Corinth fell in the late 2nd Century BC, and Rome was then kaput by the early 6th Century AD. The Renaissance began in the 14th Century AD. I count eight centuries.
Also--the notion that the Middles Ages were "dark" is a bit doomed--especially when one considers that art, philosophy, religion, secularism, science, architecture, statecraft, and medicine all flourished. Our dim view is merely based upon our relatively thin record of the age.
Ugh, it makes me sick to my stomach to know what we've lost.
From the fall of Classical Civilizations to the Renaissance, 1400 years, completely wasted on deducing how many angels can dance upon the head of a pin. 1400 years of intellectual darkness.
This is in reference to Celestial Mechanic: I hate it when moronic religious zealots try to convert everyone to their religion. Fact is, NONE of the people who are pushing this stuff actually KNOW anything about any god. It's all based on faith. I can have faith that I'm going to go buy a lottery ticket and win a million dollars, but the fact is when I go scratch it off I'm probably going to lose. Faith is belief based on just belief itself, and that's not good enough for me.
I saw that too. Makes me so mad they use carl. I mean, use dawkins or hitchens... so they can defend themselves.. dont use carl.. he was the MAN and deserves a little more respect.
By the way, I propose to that add.... "What about a child atheist?"
Global ad, saw it here in Belgium too. I did a "site:" google search on with "Sagan" and his name is nowhere to be found on the site, but they did nicely use his picture for the ad.
Ah well, just illustrative I guess, and understanding the riddle doesn't mean being able to solve it. so you didn't pawn them. Still they ought to be rea
Stupid question, but I guess this applies to all of history... if there is nothing left of it how do we know what was there? I mean if were just going by what people later said about it then its no different than what religious believers say about the existence of Jesus or something like that. I like history a lot but I couldnt teach something I couldnt prove or be 100% sure about.
well, the farao braged about it and it did help the ppl a great deal ... they did collect books from ships, thats how the world came to know it... offc. there where scaps left of it... but the libarians where still there when it was destroyed, and they and all who knew of it would live to tell the tale.... now for jesus, there might been a man called jesus once.... one person is trivial.... if you claim that he was the son of god, you need to turn up with evidence OMEGA!
besides mate, take a fucking look at the Library of Alexandria entry on wikipedia...
and btw carl Sagan did not say that everything was destroyed... so offc. there was alot of thing to find, foundation etc etc etc .... the old egypts was known for thier great skill for building etc etc etc
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btw dude.... that IS one stupid Question.... there was alot left of it... damm go to a fucking go to eqypt if you want to see what is left, I am sure they have it on display in some museum
Youre just reinforcing my point that just because a lot of people say something it doesnt make it true without evidence, so people lived to tell the tale so it must be ture, but when it comes to Jesus youre actually saying you need real evidence?
Taking a fucking look on Wikipedia and damm go to a fucking go to eqypt are your answers? If you cant help then just dont say anything please.
There is books written about this, legends etc etc etc and then there is the ruins
But in the end in our time, all is books, and books are like Wikipedia, it ends up being words...... but FUCKING HEY!!! on the wikipedia page there is pictures of scraps of papyrus which was left...
But yes Got to go to Eqypt they prolly have them there, if they are not dust by now!
AND why yes, claim from alot of peeps does not make it true, correct!
I mean the ruins, scrool scraps and stories of it, that is OK for History, remember History and Science are not far from each other.... Science is for more strict, but also more cirtain than history..
There prolly was a Library of Alexandria at that time.... you cant prove it aswell as Science does, to do that you need a fucking Time machine :P
I mean, you cant prove prove any of history as to the degree of Science.... FUCKING DAAH!
THEN for Jesus.... Jesus is in the Bible, allright, but there is no scripture outside the Bible about a bloke named Jesus, and spoke of all the funny stuff he did, even no account outside the bible about the events in the Bible...
Now if you say Jesus without god in the Bible is existed, yeah, there prolly was a bloke named Jesus....
But when you fucking claim that he is the son of God, can turn water to wine etc etc etc... then you need more, you know why?
If The jesus in the Bible was real, existed and was son of god... that means that alot of other suff should be real too....
Unicorns, Heaven and hell to name a few
But Jesus never show himself to us all, neither does his pa... But really, you dont confirm jesus as Science, you can prolly only confirm him as history, but the claims are so fucking impossible that you might just need a fucking time machine to prove Jesus. biblical jesus = very fucking far out
There's no need for name calling if you know you are right. Of course I know that one is more possible than the other considering how outrageously magical the Jesus character is made out to be.
But then you say "There is books written about this, legends etc etc etc" same thing for Jesus and any other legend, there are many books written about many things, but it cannot make them true.
But you're right that I shouldn't expect to find definite proof like a scientist does when it comes to history, that's what frustrates me. I really do wish there was a time machine so I could say without any doubt HEY those ruins were a library and not something else!
I mean when it comes up to things, you cant prove that any event in ant reent history is true either, because all that is left is book about it and stuff of it in museums, ruins or a maintained structure and ppl who talk about it
I am sorry about the namecalling, but you comments really pissed me off
Books are all we can rely on
Because of it claims, the bible belong to the scifi section
But I am sure that the historians dont go around guessing, like you imply You should go ask a historian
This is the greatest sin of the religious world. All of the 3 religions of the bible, the book are evil and need to pay mankind back for eliminating knowledge as they have done over the years. jews, muslims and Christians are all accountable for this horrible evil they have done to mankind.
MrAppleseed88 2 weeks ago
very interesting thanks
RaymGhost 3 weeks ago
very interesting thanks
chrispikeyp 3 weeks ago
very interesting thanks
ttwilkable 1 month ago
great video thanks
thegeffc 1 month ago
.the worlds knowledge burned and destroyed in one knight...Thanks for
sharing..Greetings from Ελλαδα
R3dro0st3R 1 month ago
very interesting thanks
bribribri56 1 month ago
Library of Alexandria would have helped us all reach to a point of great civilization and maybe an answer to real peace.
but religion? WHO THE FUCK CREATED RELIGION AND FOR WHAT REASON? everything you see from religions is stupid and very disturbing to our life. stupid serious shit, they have nothing in their fuking heads but only a cross and a guy called Jesus who must be a maniac seeking power, until Romans saw it and killed him for that reason. then the shit was spread ed and went all over.
myland555 1 month ago
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ynardhowar1229 1 month ago
Good. Vids. Very Helppull
Flusercom 1 month ago
Good Video. Thanks for shared
Spasatcom 1 month ago
Your video is a favorite on Praia
augustbentle616 2 months ago
Don't worry, Carl....we'll fix the bastards, we'll FINISH the job Nero started...we got 'em on the ropes now....fucking pedophiles. R.I.P, bro!
bryanttillman 2 months ago
this truly make sick and sad fuck those lame loser destroyers of that great truly on their face great thing of humanity losers must perish:O
jcliveron 3 months ago
I have read that in 2004 they discovered multiple surviving lecture halls which has been attributed to being part of the library. Does anyone know whether this is the case or whether there are any videos of them at all?
Standuble 3 months ago
they confiscated the scrolls to "borrow them" haha... ok... im with ya i guess.
cycophile 7 months ago
A full scale reconstruction of the ancient library should be done with a museum inside it, that would be awesome!
HistoryLover1550 8 months ago
Wouldn't it be awesome if there were an undiscovered horde of scrolls copied from the Alexandria library?
HistoryLover1550 8 months ago
For anyone interested check out the movie 'Agora' in which RacheL Weisz plays Hypatia, it was great!
HistoryLover1550 8 months ago
@HistoryLover1550 - I bought Agora months ago but haven't watched it yet. You've encouraged me to do so.
geneolune 6 months ago
@geneolune Trust me it is a great movie. Rachel Weisz plays Hypatia very well. Aside from some of the fictional parts of the film, it follows her life quite accurately and brings Alexandria in the 4th century AD to life in great detail and scope.
HistoryLover1550 6 months ago
Look how far we get with even a little time spent out from under the thumb of superstition.
yellowsign13 8 months ago
The Library is just a myth, must like Titanic and Hitler.
mculrik1 8 months ago
We don't know how efficiently they wrote in their scrolls it may have been better than today and no telling what they did or where on the verge of understanding. Imagine a modern version of this place or several of them. This is a lesson to be careful to biuld knowledge this is what can happen but this is more than important.
RJL738 9 months ago
What is there to dislike? I never talk about dislikes but, why??
Zachdudeio2 10 months ago
@Zachdudeio2 Bots dislike it, I've noticed 3 of these videos have similar dislikes.. I've only been on 3.
Ostrasize 8 months ago
he speaks like agent smith from matrix!!
mailanz2000 10 months ago
Maybe someone in the future, when casual time travel exists, will go back in time to before Carl died, pick him up, and take him on a trip to this library.
superchief86 11 months ago
I would also like to go back in time and visit that place...amazing!!
soilofk 1 year ago
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uncled39 1 year ago
139 people only liked a thumb up the butt.
davyjones21122 1 year ago
139 people still believe that the world is flat, and that the Sun orbits around Earth.
nebulaegazer 1 year ago
this guys face makes me frustrated
DoctorKingston 1 year ago
i thought christians destroyed the alexandrian library, because it was about different religion?
jin54363 1 year ago
now, the same serpents are re-naming Skopje to Macedonia so they turn Alexander the Great into a Slav and not a Greek. As if that is ever possible... Yet, look at a world map... Without ever being allowed by Greece, the UN zionists have allowed it...Of course. So, depress and oppress and destroy the gifted nations of the world so the useless can rule the world... Today we are experiencing CHAOS. The exact opposite of COSMOS, huh? hahaha, damn
infamouscrook 1 year ago
REAL EGYPTIANS KNOW HOW ALEXANDRIA IS GREEK
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
Astrology got shitted on @ 4:35
TheJovanist 1 year ago
great presentation by Mr. Carl Sagan
CHRIS1974100 1 year ago
Holy fuck, 136 dislikes? What kind of animals watched this clip so far?
d3st88 1 year ago 4
@d3st88
its those pesky fundementalists at it again
TooMuchToo0ften 1 year ago
@d3st88 some worms and dangerous bacteria
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Buddhism and Christianity
qaplatlhinganmaH 1 year ago
The destruction of the library is one of many reasons you can never forgive religion.
amorphousguy 1 year ago 26
@amorphousguy
You ought to not to hold responsible children for the sins of their fathers. The problem with today's religions is not that they were vicious and stupid in the past, but that they still continue being a horrible force in our world.
d3st88 1 year ago 5
@d3st88
how true; we have less excuse for our will to ignorance.
Fabstaire 1 year ago
@amorphousguy . We don't know but if you are referring to this quote of Omar
"If those books are in agreement with the Quran, we have no need of them; and if these are opposed to the Quran, destroy them".
It would seem we still have similar and many problems with those One Book Only people of various faiths. Damn it, with the ancient knowledge intact we would be busy colonizing the nearest stars by now.
fisterB 1 year ago
@fisterB exactly... And now, the same serpents are re-naming Skopje to Macedonia so they turn Alexander the Great into a Slav and not a Greek. As if that is ever possible... Yet, look at a world map... Without ever being allowed by Greece, the UN zionists have allowed it...Of course. So, depress and oppress and destroy the gifted nations of the world so the useless can rule the world... Today we are experiencing CHAOS. The exact opposite of COSMOS, huh? hahaha, damn
infamouscrook 1 year ago
@amorphousguy
i believe that alexandria library might have been hidden many secrets about the egyptian gods, maybe that is the reason why christians destroyed it, i might be wrong, but could it be a possibility?
jin54363 1 year ago
@amorphousguy But the first destruction was because of the romans am i right?
vichobreakthewall 6 months ago
@vichobreakthewall Well there were 3 separate accounts of who destroyed the Library. One the Romans by accident, 2. the Muslims and 3. the christians. I am putting my money on the Romans. Apparantly when Julius Caeser was chasing down Pompei in Egypt a battle broke out in the city where the library was and it got hit by either a fire ship or maybe just fire that swept through that part of the city from the fighting.
AetiusPraetorian 6 months ago
The first major potential destruction yes, by Julius Cesar in 48 B.C. during the Alexandrian War. And there were not three but 4 separate instances (that we know of). There was that, then there is a mentioning of Aurelian in the 3rd century that could have caused some damage. Then Theophilus (?) in 391, then Amr ibn al `Aas in 642 ...it it mentions that he might have done it. I am also willing to bet it was Roman :)
Yuri92001 6 months ago
@Yuri92001 christians and jews who else? not racist but just think
jcliveron 3 months ago
@jcliveron I'm sorry are you responding to me? Because this doesn't really address what I was saying.
Yuri92001 3 months ago
@amorphousguy But the people who created the library and wrote the books were also religious...
jelorock 4 months ago
"the grandure of Classical Civilization and the tragedy of its distruction" ...I love Sagen and get the point, however, I also get punk rock and love a good fire and sacking every now and again. The tragedy is the 700 years of administrators who couldn't get the central government to invest in a backup file system. Long live the Cloud!
wailinburnin 1 year ago
yet another amazing thing spoiled and destroyed by religion
lukaawesome1 2 years ago 14
@lukaawesome1 here here, i was just about to say the same, utterly devastating.
b4gm4n 2 years ago
Imagine the possibilities if that place would not have burned down.
I cry trully.
Inside i feel a cold pain that saddens me alot.
We have lost the biggest treasures of ancient times...
Life on earth as we know it would not be.
So many things would have happened..................
Damn religions and damn their false-prophets that destroys the best of us.
patphilosopher 2 years ago 7
I shed a tear for the tragic loss of knowledge contained in this remarkable library. The Romans were great in many things, and I have much respect for their civilization, for the most part. But this is one thing for which they can never be forgiven.
DanielRI02 2 years ago 6
well it was mostly the Arab Muslem army that burned all the books, so dont blame the romans
hollandbovenaan 1 year ago
@hollandbovenaan its debatable, but it honestly was probably the romans
Phi16180 1 year ago
@hollandbovenaan I thought muslims did not exist back then
akalestos1983 1 year ago
It burns my blood to think of all that was lost when the Library was destroyed. Think of it. Back then, if you wanted to know anything, that was where you went. If we still had the Library today, we'd have all of that, and so much more on top of it. It wouldn't have taken so many centuries to rediscover all of that stuff because it would have been improved upon many times over over the years. Just imagine where we would have been by the time of the Renaissance.
OzaiFan 2 years ago 7
Agreed!
MrWajax 2 years ago
Why such a low rating? O.o
LittleAspasia 2 years ago 6
@LittleAspasia creatonist 'vote bots' they give several hundred 1 star votes to prevent people from finding it and questioning the existance of there god.
How the mighty have fallen, reduced to down-voting youtube videos..
DidntKnowWhatToPut1 2 years ago 6
LOL Wow...No way. That's pathetic. Thanks for letting me know. Seriously these people....
LittleAspasia 2 years ago
"We had to wait 200 years" because the Church kept it hidden!I find it VERY interesting how he skirts around the details about how this library was destroyed...by Christians. Berossus' History of the World was destroyed because it did not fit in with Christian dogma.Sagan was an atheist, but I guess he knew his audience so didn't include any well deserved blame on the Christians for destroying thee most important library ever to have existed.Thus began our global descent into ignorance.
littlepiaf 2 years ago
You're right. I think he didn't want to dwell on that point.
leeroynaggins 2 years ago
does anyone know how to spell the name of the guy who had the history of the world in 3 volumes? i want to know more about what we know about him
CrunkRockSteadyEvan 2 years ago
Well, he was a lot closer than the Creationists on the timeline.
baigandine 2 years ago
Who would want to votebot COSMOS?
phantomspellchecker 2 years ago
Looks like this series got votebotted. There's no logical reason that this series has 3 stars.
Hereticbooks 2 years ago 15
Isn't it ironic? The same kinds of people that once burnt the library to the ground now are left only with the ability to run a few programs to downrate videos on YT. It's a good thing such people are now largely marginalized and impotent.
studio7manga 2 years ago 3
yes, indeed!
Hereticbooks 2 years ago
I love carl sagan but he ran up those stairs like a nancy boy!
monkeybudge 2 years ago
How much this Library sounds all of a sudden like our internet is shocking...
I mean, what can't you find on it but if it were destroyed we'd simply be left with scattered remains and clues in just the same way...
Maybe I over praise the knowledge available on the internet but if it isn't as good as the Library of Alexandria yet, there can be no doubt it means to be...
RodHullIOnceWasHim 2 years ago
The nice thing about the internet is it's basically impossible to destroy the information within, failing a complete collapse of civilization anyway.
studio7manga 2 years ago
Technological hubris will be our undoing....
One Electromagnetic sun storm could wipe away all our knowledge stored on hardrives,,, 160 degrees F will make a cd-dvd useless.
The internet is as fragile as words scribbled on rice paper. It can be destroyed just a as easily as the Library of Alexandria . And worse.... it can be manipulated and history can be rewritten to suit those in power.
COLLECT BOOKS, Store them, save them, Preserve them.
EveryHumanBeing 2 years ago 6
Books are technology too.
studio7manga 2 years ago
True, but it is a reliable cost effective method.
EveryHumanBeing 2 years ago
So is flash memory.
studio7manga 2 years ago
But flash memory is fragile, hence the point of my first comment.
"Technological hubris will be our undoing...."
EveryHumanBeing 2 years ago
Both burn just as easy in a fire.
studio7manga 2 years ago
I beg to differ..EveryHumanBeing! The internet is NOT FRAGILE. It is massive in its size and power. There are a Billion computers attached to the net ...hence it is truely "hardened". No single software program or person can destroy it! It will grow and survive forever!
junkyardpolester 2 years ago
One good global EMP and the internet is wiped...
Information online can be manipulated and revisionist history can, is and will replace historical truth and reality. And as far as no single software harming the internet...it is by no means secure, not by a stretch. it is not hardened, it is spread thin.
EveryHumanBeing 2 years ago
@EveryHumanBeing I think someone watched Escape from L.A. a time too many...
tremedar 2 years ago
@RodHullIOnceWasHim.
You might find in interesting to know that the current Library of Alexandria (Bibliotheca Alexandrina) is one of only two places in the world to have a archive of the World Wide Web.
SelfQ 2 years ago
I hope Sagan's descendants are able to sue these dipshits for use of his image in their add.
Knowing creationists, it's a pretty safe bet they don't have permission to use it
ViciousRanger 2 years ago 2
What ad?
Hereticbooks 2 years ago
Upper right portion of screen, not the video but above the description box
ViciousRanger 2 years ago
oh right!
Hereticbooks 2 years ago
P. S.
While you may consider Aquinas (or perhaps other religiously-grounded philosophers) trite and pointless, many philosophers and ethicists today would argue that thought has reached into such far corners as it has, for the work that he and his ilk left behind. What is ever purified, without fire? Not philosophy!
peregrinusnoctis 2 years ago
Well, RexFordVII--Corinth fell in the late 2nd Century BC, and Rome was then kaput by the early 6th Century AD. The Renaissance began in the 14th Century AD. I count eight centuries.
Also--the notion that the Middles Ages were "dark" is a bit doomed--especially when one considers that art, philosophy, religion, secularism, science, architecture, statecraft, and medicine all flourished. Our dim view is merely based upon our relatively thin record of the age.
peregrinusnoctis 2 years ago
Ugh, it makes me sick to my stomach to know what we've lost.
From the fall of Classical Civilizations to the Renaissance, 1400 years, completely wasted on deducing how many angels can dance upon the head of a pin. 1400 years of intellectual darkness.
Well, live and learn.
RexFordVII 2 years ago 8
I couldn't agree more.
BananaHurricane 2 years ago
This is in reference to Celestial Mechanic: I hate it when moronic religious zealots try to convert everyone to their religion. Fact is, NONE of the people who are pushing this stuff actually KNOW anything about any god. It's all based on faith. I can have faith that I'm going to go buy a lottery ticket and win a million dollars, but the fact is when I go scratch it off I'm probably going to lose. Faith is belief based on just belief itself, and that's not good enough for me.
EdwardJellico 2 years ago 2
why the fuck is there an add next to this that says:
the atheist riddle
so simple, any child can understand.
so complex, no atheist can solve.
THE FUCK!!!!
n1bigdaddy 2 years ago 4
I saw that too. Makes me so mad they use carl. I mean, use dawkins or hitchens... so they can defend themselves.. dont use carl.. he was the MAN and deserves a little more respect.
By the way, I propose to that add.... "What about a child atheist?"
See, only one sentence and I fucked them up.
Stead3111 2 years ago
yeah
of course
any average intelligent human being can pown a creationist at logic ;)
n1bigdaddy 2 years ago
The uploader doesn't choose the ad, the AdSense system does, guided by keyword bidding.
I did a site:
Plutonar 2 years ago
Global ad, saw it here in Belgium too. I did a "site:" google search on with "Sagan" and his name is nowhere to be found on the site, but they did nicely use his picture for the ad.
Ah well, just illustrative I guess, and understanding the riddle doesn't mean being able to solve it. so you didn't pawn them. Still they ought to be rea
Plutonar 2 years ago
Stupid question, but I guess this applies to all of history... if there is nothing left of it how do we know what was there? I mean if were just going by what people later said about it then its no different than what religious believers say about the existence of Jesus or something like that. I like history a lot but I couldnt teach something I couldnt prove or be 100% sure about.
fegu 2 years ago
well, the farao braged about it and it did help the ppl a great deal ... they did collect books from ships, thats how the world came to know it... offc. there where scaps left of it... but the libarians where still there when it was destroyed, and they and all who knew of it would live to tell the tale.... now for jesus, there might been a man called jesus once.... one person is trivial.... if you claim that he was the son of god, you need to turn up with evidence OMEGA!
C0ldking 2 years ago
besides mate, take a fucking look at the Library of Alexandria entry on wikipedia...
and btw carl Sagan did not say that everything was destroyed... so offc. there was alot of thing to find, foundation etc etc etc .... the old egypts was known for thier great skill for building etc etc etc
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btw dude.... that IS one stupid Question.... there was alot left of it... damm go to a fucking go to eqypt if you want to see what is left, I am sure they have it on display in some museum
C0ldking 2 years ago
Youre just reinforcing my point that just because a lot of people say something it doesnt make it true without evidence, so people lived to tell the tale so it must be ture, but when it comes to Jesus youre actually saying you need real evidence?
Taking a fucking look on Wikipedia and damm go to a fucking go to eqypt are your answers? If you cant help then just dont say anything please.
fegu 2 years ago
fengu, you moron!
There is books written about this, legends etc etc etc and then there is the ruins
But in the end in our time, all is books, and books are like Wikipedia, it ends up being words...... but FUCKING HEY!!! on the wikipedia page there is pictures of scraps of papyrus which was left...
But yes Got to go to Eqypt they prolly have them there, if they are not dust by now!
AND why yes, claim from alot of peeps does not make it true, correct!
But we have the ruins scraps and legend
C0ldking 2 years ago
I mean the ruins, scrool scraps and stories of it, that is OK for History, remember History and Science are not far from each other.... Science is for more strict, but also more cirtain than history..
There prolly was a Library of Alexandria at that time.... you cant prove it aswell as Science does, to do that you need a fucking Time machine :P
I mean, you cant prove prove any of history as to the degree of Science.... FUCKING DAAH!
C0ldking 2 years ago
THEN for Jesus.... Jesus is in the Bible, allright, but there is no scripture outside the Bible about a bloke named Jesus, and spoke of all the funny stuff he did, even no account outside the bible about the events in the Bible...
Now if you say Jesus without god in the Bible is existed, yeah, there prolly was a bloke named Jesus....
But when you fucking claim that he is the son of God, can turn water to wine etc etc etc... then you need more, you know why?
C0ldking 2 years ago
If The jesus in the Bible was real, existed and was son of god... that means that alot of other suff should be real too....
Unicorns, Heaven and hell to name a few
But Jesus never show himself to us all, neither does his pa... But really, you dont confirm jesus as Science, you can prolly only confirm him as history, but the claims are so fucking impossible that you might just need a fucking time machine to prove Jesus. biblical jesus = very fucking far out
Library of Alexandria = possible
C0ldking 2 years ago
There's no need for name calling if you know you are right. Of course I know that one is more possible than the other considering how outrageously magical the Jesus character is made out to be.
But then you say "There is books written about this, legends etc etc etc" same thing for Jesus and any other legend, there are many books written about many things, but it cannot make them true.
fegu 2 years ago
But you're right that I shouldn't expect to find definite proof like a scientist does when it comes to history, that's what frustrates me. I really do wish there was a time machine so I could say without any doubt HEY those ruins were a library and not something else!
fegu 2 years ago
I mean when it comes up to things, you cant prove that any event in ant reent history is true either, because all that is left is book about it and stuff of it in museums, ruins or a maintained structure and ppl who talk about it
I am sorry about the namecalling, but you comments really pissed me off
Books are all we can rely on
Because of it claims, the bible belong to the scifi section
But I am sure that the historians dont go around guessing, like you imply You should go ask a historian
C0ldking 2 years ago
There were registers/inventory lists that did survive. Plus they know the relative size of the building and have descriptions of the interior.
abyssquick 2 years ago
He will be back
ExNihiloJimmy 2 years ago
i have the entire cosmos collection. YAAA!!!
WickedJargon 2 years ago 3
Just amazing :)
musicgeniusno1 2 years ago 8
I love the starting song, can someone tell me what it is?
NathanWubs 2 years ago 7
It is Heaven and Hell by Vangelis. There is a CD called "The Music of Cosmos". You can find it in Amazon.
nelbr 2 years ago
Favorite d for knowledge, Fived for truth
DayDark87 2 years ago 14
Imagine if it were still around today. The very though makes me all tingly.
Shadowflare00 2 years ago 23
Reading 'Cosmos' proved to be my awakening. We must ensure that Sagan's work continues.
SayYesToReason 2 years ago 31
@SayYesToReason i just got goosebumps from reading that
Elliemcel 1 year ago
@Elliemcel Why? I'm curious :)
SayYesToReason 1 year ago
@SayYesToReason Then you HAVE to read Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark "!!
rustydog1236 1 year ago