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  • Dead girls can't say "No."

  • Cindy~I'm Proud of you for not going to court!

    George~Stay in the hospital until you are mentally,physically &emotionally strong enough to confront Casey. Do not allow her to inflict guilt or lie & manipulate you one more time. Casey killed Casey to hurt you & your wife. Stay in the hospital until you are on solid ground.

    Caylees spirit is still with you, she wants you to know the truth, it will set you free.

    You must stand up to Casey then stay away from her & keep Cindy away from her.

  • I took up 4 Cindy till she told a reporter

    days ago that her daughter did not harm Caylee. They must be plotting a story to defend Casey. They will say the death was an accidental drowning, Casey panicked, feared that her parents would never forgive her & the trauma caused some type of temporary amnesia to the brain or PTSD, etc.

    If the Anthonys defend Casey this time,it would be fair to say they deserve this because this time they have allowed their Daughter to get away with MURDER-A Shame

  • Just wondering. It mentions in the video that it is completely the criminals choice to get into these programs. However, could it be described as a persuaded choice. If the criminal enters the program do they get out earlier? It could be seen as good behaviour if they conform to programs.If re-offeding will they get put in for less because of good intentions. If they didn't enter the course it might look bad.Not helping themselves, no desire to become a law abiding citizen. Thoughts on this?

  • Didn't KC say to LP that the reason ZG took Caylee "probably 'cuz of some money I owed her"? Let's see. If I was the REAL nanny / kidnapper, what would I do. KC has stacked up hours of babysitting, but hasn't paid me. Obviously, in order to extort my babysitting fortune out of KC, I take her kid, make no ransom demand, change my identity, call KC for 1 minute in July, and dissappear. -shakes head-...

  • 5.(sorry for'going on')..and why did KC&Co profess Caylee was in danger but alive and coming back(at the same time)? Weird.

    K, deep breath, if someone wanted to hurt KC real bad, they would hurt her through her kid. Can you imgaine just how much hatred you would have to have towards KC to go that far?  If that was so, why not go for KC herself? Why f yourself?

    Its so'dubious'!

    What if KC harboured such hatred? Why can't KC be the psycho?

    Why isn't the prison diagnosing psychosis?

    Arg!!!!

  • 4. I can't wait to talk about Cindy! What happens when its one psychopath against another????? This serious stuff! Caylee has been murdered for cripes sake!

    In all this I ask myself, if not KC & Co that took Caylee's life away, took her out WHO?

    Who would take that upon themselves, why??? Who would risk that? Who would be so angry, agitated, desperate as to take that out on Caylee? Who would have wanted to crush KC or her family that badly...I mean, rather tham confronting KC? cont

  • 3...I let it go at that. At times I felt roped in over my head but for me it was all so transparent. I remain astonsished at the tunnel vision of the 'psychopath'.

    Its like the difficult reality that a cat will play and play with a injured and dying mouse. Hard to explain.

    At the same time, it was because of his psychopathy that I was able to get out because I knew that he didn't know my feelings and was kind of numbed out in his attention. Its so hard to explain...

  • 2. ...gosh, everything from how I walk and talk to not properly responding to obvious insults. I was exhausted but in a last resort I tried to effect a blaming mode...perhaps attune with him, I dunno. I said a couple of innocuous snide things about innocuous things and sure enough, he was delighted. I went a step further and bitched at him. He loved it! Then he started to beat me up about it...alas...because he wanted someone to beat up. He thought he had roped me in...

  • Hi Jazz, Ya, that is how it went down. He was in the extremme state of blaming and entitlement mode that Albi talks about here. I wasn't having anything to do with it but, he so wanted and needed me to affirm his mode and join in. He tried every trick in the book to tease/coax/provoke me to blame and entitle myself. When that didn't work he launched an attack on my character...

    cont

  • Hi Lee, Yuppers. I sure heard Lee's lawyer say that! Thanks because I thought I was hallucinting!

  • Check out hockystick's recent posts on the vid "Cindy & George--criminal charges? Hockystick made some interesting observations......

  • Did you see the video of Lee's Lawyer he slips and says "Mr.Anthony's DAUGHTER I mean Neice" hmm he could have gone froever without saying that.

  • I agree they should all take a polygraph. I am wondering about DNA results as far as determining if Lee or George could be the father of Caley. Why would Cindy not give Caley hairbrush to detectives, she gave Casey's. Also tried to have the lawyer stop DNA testing after the trunk testing saying they are destroying evidence and the defence needs to be able to test too. Also Lee saying the family will never disclose the true father and some cocamany stroy. Then yesterday an article saying Lee may

  • go to jail for obstruction. Well as far as I am concerned all of them hae been guilty of that in one way or the other. Would Lee withholding the fact that he fathered Caley be obstruction? Sure it would. But again all this is speculation and it will come out in court. I also think there really is so much more than what we know and there maybe some serious twists and turn in this case. I just hope that some of my thoughts are way off base.

  • Casey will never crack!!! Her karma will get her and Cindy. Shame on Cindy for helping hide some of the evidence. George knows better too. I wish they would all take lie detector tests, I bet not a one of them would pass.

  • Hi Lee, All I have seen as of yet is Lee's lawyer boasting about Lee giving DNA and his co-operation with police. Here's another lawyer in the picture! He can barely speak a whole sentence.

  • 6. Pea, There is no lack of empathy at birth but, an abundance of it! That is not a choice. I don't know of any spiritual mutancy regarding that. The essential empathy is there, like the sun is there despite clouds overhead.

    Scientology will tell us there is spiritual mutancy! Hitler gave that a go too!

    I have/had a friend that became horrified of spies/conspiracy. She tried to explain it for some years then committed suicide.

    She was inconsolable. Help scared her even more!

  • 5. Blaming is redflag. Getting to the punchline, blaming (hallelujah) is a choice!

    There, Ive said it. So thats what I have to say about that!

    Evidence of the futility of blaming is that you can't outblame a psychopath, not in a million years.

    I mean, don't get sucked in. Thats a choice!

    As Degas said,'Blame is for God and small children'.

    If you have ever seen a psychopath who has nowhere left to turn, noone left to blame..very scarey..pitiful.

    Putting it mildly, its a pity.

  • 4. This 'blaming' thing is how cults operate. Blaming is, in effect, victimizing.

    Its very dangerous stuff! It is not the defense we might like it to be, it is offensive.

    We watched Papillon last night! When Degas (Dustin Hoffman) is asked if he was angry with Papillon (Steve McQueen), predicting Papillon would rat on him, he says 'Blame is for God and small children'! Papillon did not rat/blame/use Degas afterall.

    KC & Co are way overzealous with the blaming thing. 

    cont

  • 3. In that situation it was 'idealizing' that got the better of us. We idealized ourselves and eachother and the whole thing!

    It all became quite transparent, even boring.

    So that brings me to the 'blaming' thing.

    Blaming is such a kneejerk reaction! but its like playing with fire. I catch myself too Albatross : ) ! Blaming is 'din-din' for a psychopath. The second you 'blame' a psychopath, its like they have you, your number!

    'Know when to walk away, know when to run!'

    cont

  • Is there anything out there showing that Cindy George and Lee doing DNA testing? Why would they say they may arrest Lee? Also what about a polygraph. Great picture. Sorry it was off this topic but can't find anything. I do not think Casey will ever crack.

  • 2. About self esteem. Nice! Years ago I got myself tangled up in a very bad/scarey relationship. It felt like being putty! I got myself to a women's hospice etc. The counsellor said that I had been idealizing myself, atleast my ability to endure the brutality. That comment scared the heck out of me but it was true. It was like being handed a 'get out of jail free' card. The moment I stopped being so good at enduring the brutality...failed at being good at that...I was free. (longish post)

  • I understand that the grieving process involves denial, bargaining, anger, sadness, acceptance. Recently I learned that the aspects don't necessarily go in a set sequence, and combinations can happen simultaneously.

    But TRAUMA is different. I say this now because it might come up later.

    A healthy grieving process can escape you in trauma. All hell breaks loose! All the stops are pulled.

    Trauma is a whole nother ball of wax.

    But back to your subject! cont

  • criminality is for the lazy, IMHO. Keep it a secret.

    PSYCHOpaths are diagnosed primarily on their actions.

    --disguised as a normal person, and they are. a good grip on reality, know the diff. betw. right & wrong. Their problem is cognitive, But until they see a bleak future, they're not changing. Laziness is near impos. to change. How long do you think a hooker would be willing to change jobs if it meant $12 a hour?

    Psychotics on the other hand, are quickly seen as odd....they need rx.

  • Yes, they are diagnosed by their actions, and, to a large degree, their thought processes, as evidenced by their marked, almost unhuman, lack of empathy. Science is not certain if it is cognitive or chemical, the chicken-egg question. Some studies have shown their brains are physically different. Certainly many of them have had head injuries. I don't believe they can control what they are---only their actions. No less culpable, IMHO, but much more than choice. The choice is the act only.

  • One can be gay, and never act on it.

    One can be a pedophile, and never act on it.

    One can be a sociopath, and never act on it. (No, I am not comparing homosexuality, which is benign, with sociopathy or pedophilia). A criminal act is a choice; the personality behind it is not. The lack of empathy is not chosen. The sociopath who agrees to this "contract" has not suddenly developed empathy for others, they have not magically developed a conscience; they will follow as long as it suits their needs.

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